Leeds Banter

14 Apr 2026 19:33:42
Yes, a brilliant win last night, a night to remember. But wasn't anyone concerned about the goals we should have, but didn't score?

14 Apr 2026 20:37:06
Erm, no!

14 Apr 2026 21:02:35
It's a fair point, CJ, but we've been profligate in front of goal for the past couple of seasons now.

It will only matter when we lose (unfortunately) .

14 Apr 2026 16:21:44
I don’t have a problem with the red card rule. You pull someone hair you not accidentally doing it. You have to think about doing it. You engaged your brain to think about doing it, it’s not like jumping up to get height and your arm coming down and accidentally hit your opponent. You lost. Stop moaning about it.

14 Apr 2026 18:43:33
In the heat of the moment, people can actually act instinctively, so it's not always that simple. Mike Tyson, for instance, when he bit Evander Holyfield's ear. Having said that, it is still a foul!

{Ed001's Note - did you know Holyfield lost a fight early on his boxing career for biting his opponent?}

14 Apr 2026 16:01:45
After last night's result, please can we have a check in whether DF should stay or go now?

Has beating Man United at OT for the first time in nearly half a decade made DF an instant legend and rendered him unsackable?

14 Apr 2026 16:48:57
Depending on what's available, and, realistically, what the transfer budget is.

No point removing Farke for another mid tier manager, but if we could get somebody who's seemingly going places, I'd be happy to change if they set up to attack.



So, to answer the question, I'd still replace him at the end of the season. But only if we have ambitious plans. If the budget is poor, just stick with Farke for another season.

14 Apr 2026 17:25:53
Instant Legend Alf?

Steady on fella@!

But.
If Farkey wins Leeds United the 2026 FA Cup, then yes, Farkey would rightfully become an LUFC legend in the Baz Book.

Only the great Don Revie has managed that for Leeds United.

14 Apr 2026 17:27:26
Seems to me that it's almost impossible for some Leeds fans to give DF any credit at all for what he has achieved so far.
As we all know, that was a very long time ago that we last beat Man United at Old Trafford in the league, and the same goes for the FA Cup semi-final that we are currently in.
Not to mention promotion, with all sorts of record-breaking achievements in obtaining promotion.

Why change something that is not broken?
Even with a so-called accomplished coach coming in, it could take some time before he starts to get positive results, if at all.



Me, personally, I would give the reins to Farke for at least another two seasons before even considering booting him out.
We need someone who can navigate these first three or four seasons to get us settled in the Premiership. I think he is the right coach to deliver that, and that's not a hunch.

14 Apr 2026 17:43:29
What Lad2 said.

{Ed025's Note - i think his remit would have been to keep the team in the Premiership this season CO92..and i think he will fulfill that mate, so can you really sack him for obtaining his brief?..

14 Apr 2026 17:49:45
Well, for my tuppence worth, guys. I think we have to look at the bigger picture. When Daniel Farke took over we were in tatters. He rebuilt and got us 90 points and a play-off final. No small feat. He then had our star players stripped from us, rebuilt and won the Championship with 100 points playing attacking wing-based football. He then had to completely rethink the prem approach, bringing in different players for a different style which was always gonna take time to mould, and of course along the way there were doubts, my own included.

But, the big, big thing for me is the unity and mentality of the squad. Look how they fight for each other, the understanding of each other they have developed, the attitude. That has to be transmitted by the coaching, the players obviously are totally behind Daniel Farke. That's good enough for me. Why change it? Why destroy what has been built? If you like croissants, why start eating Weetabix? The unity, the passion, the belief is there because the players are allowed to develop under their tuition, and that has to be down to Daniel Farke.

{Ed025's Note - great post that Vid...kudos mate..

14 Apr 2026 18:01:12
But what if you have the chance to get a pain au chocolate or a danish whirl, Vid?

14 Apr 2026 18:10:16
Exactly, Vid!

There are not many seasons, since Mr Revie, where we can say Chelsea, Liverpool and Man United couldn't beat us in a season.

There has been only one other season since Mr Revie that we have got to a FA Cup semi-final. Supposedly "elite" managers have not achieved any of those things.

I don't regard him as a "mid Tier" at all; he's clearly a good coach and an excellent man manager.

I think, and have always thought, he could easily become a legend. Could be sooner than we think. [Hopefully!]

As for pain au chocolate or a Danish whirl, Aft; they often prove to be stale, disappointing and usually underwhelming!

14 Apr 2026 18:24:07
Couldn't have put it better myself, Vid. This is a good time to feel positive about our club, and if we beat Wolves on the weekend, I reckon it's all gravy there on in.
I haven't felt this good about our football club, team and coach for a long time.

14 Apr 2026 18:24:52
Lol Alf, this season, more than any other season, have a think. At the start Daniel Farke was odds on to be the first out of the door. How many have done that, and how often, and where has it got them? Continuity is massive, ups and downs are a certainty, journeys are always shortest as the crow flies. You want 4 managers a season and a relegation battle? We have what we have, and a lot of clubs would covet it.

How about, we could have a more successful season than Man U, Spurs, Arsenal even? Don't forget, we are building, we could win an FA Cup, we could finish close to top 10. For a newly promoted side that's massive. At the start of the season we could only really measure ourselves against Sunderland and Burnley, that's it!

14 Apr 2026 18:29:36
Ani.. Actually there have been two (not one) other seasons when Leeds reached the FA Cup semi-final since Don.

1976/77 under the quite underrated Jimmy Armfield.
And
1986/87 when Leeds had a very strong season under King Billy.

14 Apr 2026 18:44:21
Vid, you're on form tonight, pal, tremendous posts and well thought-out.
Good stuff son. 😎

14 Apr 2026 18:54:11
Think Farke has now earned his credit for another season, without doubt. We have played very well a good few times this Seez now, and that's not by luck. To beat them at home, if it's followed up with a home win Saturday, us, surely 90% job done.



I know it's only 3 points, but when your backs to the wall and you're battling for points, it feels like 6 last night.

Well done Danny. 💪

14 Apr 2026 19:02:50
For myself Ed025 it's nothing personal, I've posted previously Farke deserves every bit of praise if he keeps us up on a shoestring.

I've stated previously, that I think Farke has flaws (most do) but he's a very reactive coach rather than a proactive coach, as brilliant as the win was last night, I thought we ended up desperately fortunate not to concede lose, against 10 men.

This was exactly the same scenario as the West Ham cup game we retreated, and I think the majority of the games we have done this, it's been Amps leading the retreat and Farke does not address it in my eyes.

I do believe the players changed our formation which completely transformed our season and I still think senior players are calling substitutions.

I've said only recently we have the best spirit and togetherness of any team in the bottom half, if that's down to Farkey then brilliant.

I will fully accept if we keep Farke and would ONLY change for a Glasner, Iraola level of coach, if that's not possible then fine I'll cheer the team on,

I don't think it's wrong to want the best, swap Haaland for DCL etc, but I'm just being truthful when I fear for next (difficult 2nd) season if he's still in charge, but I've never personally attacked the man and I would love him to shove it down my throat.

{Ed025's Note - as a neutral CO92 i think he has done a really good job, recent seasons has proved just how difficult it is for a team who have been promoted to stay up, not only will you survive but you have locked horns with the top teams and have not been disgraced in the slightest mate, i dont think you have the strongest squad but what you do have is unity and togetherness...and that is down to the manager for me, i think the players respect him and thats massive, has he made mistakes?..of course he has but its forgivable considering how far he has taken you..

14 Apr 2026 19:29:45
It makes no difference what we post or say about Farke, in the end it's down to the board. They will not be asking us for sure, so let's just concentrate on the job ahead, get behind the team, come what may.

14 Apr 2026 19:31:33
Why are managers the heroes - it's the players that get us there. A good manager sees when things need to be shaken up, and when you don't mess with the team. A good manager can read the game and make the necessary subs. A good manager knows how to use all the tools available to him..

As to whether the players' display of passion for the shirt, the fans, and for themselves is down to the manager, or the lack of a good manager, we can all debate that.



I'd still like to know what changed his mind in the dressing room at Chity - because, Imho, if he didn't change, he would definitely not be the current manager.

14 Apr 2026 20:15:30
I think if you listen to any of the ex Leeds pros on the media, I don’t think I’ve heard hardly anything negative in their opinions of Farke.
As you rightly say, no coach is perfect, and errors will happen. With what Farke has got to work with, as in his players, I think he’s done a great job so far.


I’m already excited to see what he can achieve next season with more quality in the team.

In this football world of demanding instant success, I’m really happy to see a coach and his players slowly evolve together with unity.

15 Apr 2026 05:12:42
CA, I think from his previous two experiences with Norwich with very meager resources, I guess he's learnt that you have to adapt in the Premiership to survive, especially when you have a team that's low on quality compared to the rest of the league.

He had worked with different formations before in his career and it could've been his plan B if results weren't going our way after a certain period. It takes courage to do that midway through a match against one of the best teams in the league.

Some will just say he's lucky or whatever. I think he's a good coach who is evolving in this league and has the potential to even improve.

The negativity surrounding Farke I find is quite unfounded and largely blinkered. Swapping and changing your coach every five minutes to find instant success rarely works in my mind and is not the way to build solid and reliable foundations for a football team in probably the toughest League in the world.

14 Apr 2026 10:55:47
Was it a red card last night?
Originally I thought it was harsh but having seen it again today, he definitely had a hold of his barnet longer than a split second, which Carrick said.
What a fantastic first half performance! Second half we did what we always do and sat back inviting pressure and in the end were a little fortunate to get the three points.

In saying that we thoroughly deserved the win.

14 Apr 2026 12:13:26
Agreed, Corkey. Like you, my first thought was that it was harsh, and that I'd have been very annoyed if it had been given against us, but a second look showed it was right. I really hope they appeal it and are told to #### off.

{Ed025's Note - you cant pull peoples hair JR it was definitely a red card, this is not 6 year old girls playing in a school playground its supposedly finely tuned athletes competing with each other mate, they will be giving each other Chinese burns next..

14 Apr 2026 12:17:14
I know what you mean - it's one of those where I'm trying to be objective, it's a lot harder when it happens in our favour against Manchester United. I think it's a problem with the way the rules are written. Under the letter of the law it probably is just a red card, but I don't want to see red cards given for that.

I think there was a similar incident in the Spurs - Sunderland game with Porro and Brobbey. Joustling and Brobbey's elbow ended up in Porro's face. Everyone screams "it was a red, an elbow!", but it wasn't thrown, it was just a case of two guys in close proximity. A yellow was absolutely the right call for Brobbey.

I don't think there was enough malice in the Martinez pull, he knew what he was doing though. A foul, and if you really wanted, show him a yellow. But the law means it's a red. It's a problem with the law, the interpretation of it, or the lack of flexibility with it.

I hate arguing a case for Man U, but with all that's gone against us recently, I try and be as objective as possible. Were we lucky yesterday? I don't know if we were lucky as such, I thought we were the better team 11 vs. 11 anyway. But I think it's fair to say they were a bit unlucky.

14 Apr 2026 12:18:31
Carrick looked like he was about to burst into tears in his after match interview.

14 Apr 2026 12:46:14
It's like spitting, players spit all the time during a game to clear their phlegm. But you do that on another player, you will be sent off.

Carrick has got nothing to say, he's just racked off, his team lost.

14 Apr 2026 13:02:58
Defo red. Rules is rules! No one is conned by the dirty git acting all innocent; he knew exactly what he was doing!

14 Apr 2026 13:07:57
100% Ed 25. Pulling hair. What a woofda. Should be ashamed of himself. And then walking off in dismay making pulling gestures. Hilarious. Dead pan red.

{Ed025's Note - hes just a dick head Aus..

14 Apr 2026 13:10:00
Not disagreeing with you Ed. When I first saw a brief clip online last night I wasn't sure if Martinez had pulled DCL's hair or just brushed it, but having had a better look today I think the ref and VAR got it right.

{Ed025's Note - absolutely JR, we have seen Joao Neves and Michael Keane sent off for it mate...what was the idiot thinking?..

14 Apr 2026 15:23:48
You can see he pulls hard enough to move DCL's head back, so clearly he didn't 'just brush' his hair.
He wasn't trying to hurt him, as he didn't pull that hard, but 100% did pull his hair, which is a red. Very stupid of him TBH.

14 Apr 2026 15:32:11
I think we were fortunate that DCL wasn't penalised in the lead up to the first goal..

14 Apr 2026 17:02:17
Hair pulling is like raising hands to strike or push someone in the face. You just cannot do it. Headbutts are the same; any sort of movement towards another is a red card.
The thing is Martinez did not need to do it. It was a challenge in midfield; no one benefited from it.


I know last night was soft and may not have had force behind it, but another time, if a player's head is yanked by the hair, it could result in neck or head injuries.
If players do something that is a straight red, then they cannot blame others when it's given as such.

14 Apr 2026 10:09:36
Where's my post ed? It says published, but I can't see it.

{Ed033's Note - On the Leeds Match Posts page.

14 Apr 2026 12:19:21
Cheers Ed, I had completely forgotten about the Match posts section.

14 Apr 2026 14:07:59
One of those places I have never looked at ed, thanks for the direction. Do we really need that page though?

{Ed033's Note - The idea originally was that if people are remarking on a match during a match, those posts need to go somewhere other than the Banter page.