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23 Dec 2021 12:18:11
Liverpool postponed good result 👍.

Classof92

1.) 23 Dec 2021 14:30:21
Am amazed the PL agreed to it, as it was us who requested it!


2.) 24 Dec 2021 16:18:16
They must have got muddled up.


 

 

15 Nov 2021 15:34:22
Heard from my mate Trev, who it should be pointed out supports that Devon lot. Trev drinks with Pete who owns the removal Company that moved Ben White from his Sussex home in Worthing to London.

Rather worryingly Ben Whites Dad assures Pete, through Trev back to me onto you guys (you see it’s solid) that KP assures Ben White he plans to rekindle their bromance at Arsenal.

Hey don’t shoot the four messengers just from Mr White senior.

Classof92

1.) 15 Nov 2021 17:35:37
Class: rather there than Devon lot, if or when he ever does leave! Anywhere but Salford!


2.) 15 Nov 2021 17:44:34
Don’t think KP would consider that lot Brighty he knows how that would be received I’m sure!


3.) 16 Nov 2021 07:56:45
Pretty much agree class, and he’s actually said “me family would never forgive me! ”!
Thankfully!


4.) 16 Nov 2021 07:57:21
We should have paid the 50 mil, Arsenal did after all we paid 30 mil for sad James . Rads should pull all the stops out to get him to sign.


 

 

16 Sep 2021 07:30:48
Wow! Reports that Leeds turned down a last minute transfer deadline bid for Rodrigo from Barcelona!

Reports Club declined due to the “scatter gun” nature of the bid.

Fair to say Rodrigo hasn’t worked as hoped due to a number of reasons and we may have missed out on an opportunity to recoup transfer funds for a player who would most likely have jumped for a return to Spain especially to Barcelona.

Classof92

1.) 16 Sep 2021 15:27:59
Saw some reports suggesting Barcelona wanted a loan deal - presumably because they’re strapped for cash at the moment. Other reports saying Bielsa wanted Rodrigo to stay here.

Either way, if it was last minute, we wouldn’t have had time to bring in a replacement, either at striker or CAM. So, despite his patchy form, accepting the deal would have weakened our squad depth further.


2.) 18 Sep 2021 07:19:19
Yes it was a loan offer by all accounts but would have left us even lighter in terms of our squad and maybe we would still have been paying a portion of his wages. Also some sources reporting at the time it was only semi serious.


 

 

31 Aug 2021 16:37:26
Confirmed at last, I’m delighted we have got James, think that will give lots of options for the CAM role.

Shame Costa move seems to have stalled, there is a player in there but truth be told we cannot rely on him, think James will be far more consistent under Bubs tutelage, happy!

Classof92

1.) 31 Aug 2021 19:05:27
Me too Class! Investment not to be sneered at, and clearly MB sees something special in the lad. Our counter attacks are going to be rapid!


2.) 31 Aug 2021 22:47:01
And he is just 21. Wales international. Played in the Champions league. Scum to be fair have great players at his position. And he got quite a lot of minutes in this squad.
Ole is a piece of s**t manager. Imagine he would be in charge of our team… we would get relegated last year.
Bielsa can make any average player look more than decent. And if he has a grain of talent (and he does) he can transform into a great player.
I’ve heard that some scum supporters are really gutted that he is going as they see his high potential.


3.) 01 Sep 2021 17:59:44
One of the things DJ said after signing was that he was looking forward to learning every day. That could be seen both as reflecting positively his expectations of the coaching environment he’s joining under Bielsa, and casting a little shade on the one he’s just left.


4.) 02 Sep 2021 11:07:04
You going away this year class?


5.) 06 Sep 2021 11:05:06
Hi Martyn, hope you’re well Pal.

Sold our place in Tenerife as red tape was becoming a nightmare, but off to Portugal in September then hopefully Tenerife in November to visit some old friends.

You got any visits planned Martyn?
Stage safe and well 👍.


6.) 07 Sep 2021 10:09:27
Arrived in las americas late Saturday, should have been in Antalya but still on red list, watching England and Leeds games including rhinos on Friday in buzz bar, small quiet friendly little bar with best breakfast I’ve found on the island, oh and it has a kebab shop next door too 😉.


7.) 07 Sep 2021 21:36:40
That’s quality Martyn
Don’t know the buzz bar from memory but there is a few of them in LA

Glad to hear they have all the essentials though, have a great time mate.


 

 

14 Mar 2021 11:01:24
Crystal Palace’s Patrick van Aanholt, being linked to Leeds for free transfer to fill left back spot.

Classof92

1.) 14 Mar 2021 13:58:43
Like him as a player but he's 30 now would prefer a younger player but on a free we can't go wrong.


 

 

 

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24 Jan 2022 12:42:57
So a personal hero of mine, Leeds spin doctor Angus (mongoose eating) Kinear.

Issues the following statement on recruitment with the summary….

“As a board, we have always tried to be transparent with supporters in the belief it is better if our recruitment strategy is disagreed with by some fans, rather than misunderstood by many. ”

Oh thanks Angus, bless your heart cannot beat being patronised on a Monday 👍

“Our strategy clearly impacts our evaluation of transfer targets, where our analysis indicates that many January options, requiring an eight-figure investment, would not be a material improvement on the current performances of emerging players such as Bate, Hjelde and Joe Gelhardt. ”

“Moreover, signing other options would block such youngsters’ development and would offer nowhere near the long-term potential. ”

Kinnear also made it clear moving for players in January would have a knock-on effect with the business they may look to do in the summer window.

“Simultaneously, any January activity has an opportunity cost on more optimal moves in the summer window, ”

Much easier to say not a proverbial pot to pee in!

I have no idea what is going on between Radz and 49ers but recent survey has Radz net worth of £500 million, next Tony Bloom Brighton £1.8 Billion, Villa and West Ham over £9 Billion each yes I get FFP comes into it, but you need funds when you need them.

I can accept if we ain’t got the money we ain’t got it but just say so.

Not a fan of this smirking PR guru think he’s contrary to all that is currently good at Leeds.

Just stop pissing down our fantastically loyal supporters backs, whilst telling them it’s just raining that’s all.

Classof92

1.) 24 Jan 2022 13:02:57
Cant stand AK as disingenuous as it gets.


2.) 24 Jan 2022 13:05:18
Kinnear is a condescending arrogant unlikeable person . As you say Class stop trying to instill a false narrative into the fans minds .

Company mantras always spew out the poor mouth whilst company directors never go without .

On the 1 hand he singling out a few lads but in the same token why not then say we are balancing that against some players who would struggle to hit the back of an EMPTY NET,

If Leeds don't sign anything worthwhile this window and we're relegated the board should be sacked for gross negligence.


3.) 24 Jan 2022 13:53:08
Sorry lads as much as I love him/ loathe him, I can see where he is coming from and the logic behind it.
Why panic buy now and deplete finances that would be much better spent in the summer.
This presupposes that a target (s) has been identified and will be snapped up early doors.
We all laud the skill and effort of our U23s so why bring someone in and push a young gun even further down the ladder, only for him to get disillussioned and seek an exit.
We all know Bielsa's strict insistence on "being up to Bielsa speed" so we won't see, whoever, until Late Feb/ Mar anyway.
No I am now of the opinion that we/ 49rs should spend big in the summer.
With all our first team sick list back and firing (I am thinking only Paddy and KP) our run in should see us easily safe. Ready to plan and go again next year.
As for the disengenious AK Tell me one company that doesn't follow company speak when necessary. He has to put a spin on most matters and quite rightly so to placate far more than just us supporters. It's for us to pick the truth out of the words and add our pinch of salt. The only man I know who stood up and told a semi truth was Gerald Ratner and look what that did so, we know what we know let's just keep Marching on Together.


4.) 24 Jan 2022 13:56:06
Hear hear Chris I remember getting criticism from some on here last year when I referred to AR and co as negligent re summer transfer in safeguarding LUFC EPL status . nothing has changed on my stance.


5.) 24 Jan 2022 14:19:00
Leo . ' why panic buy '? the club have had months to identify a goalscorer and midfielder.

Other clubs have strengthened their team and squad this window

Waiting till the summer to recruit is all very well as long as the club is still in the EPL : an unnecessary risky strategy.


6.) 24 Jan 2022 15:21:06
Read your counter point Leo, good view points, but balance that with this view

Let's suppose the plan really is, no players in this window

Big overhaul in summer,

In theory better late than never

But attach the possibility of relegation this season and what do you think will happen in the summer then?

Oh due to relegation we can't spend big due to being in the championship, hence wages + attracting players down to championship will then be the line pedalled by the board .

I feel we will avoid it, BUT it's not impossible that it could happen, so where would that scenario leave us?


7.) 24 Jan 2022 17:20:23
Yes Chris I get you and it is a very valid point. If my scenario is correct then a big gamble/ decision has been made at the top that we have enough on the ooks to see us throgh. 17th is a win. There are no guarantees in this life and I feel Radz has decided that the benefits outweigh the risk. Maybe right, maybe wrong but he is the only one who can make it. Besides a pundit recently said that change now only guarantees one thing, that's change. let's just see if buying saves Newcastle? Not just us helping them.


8.) 24 Jan 2022 20:19:37
Nothing wrong with being the underdog punching above your weight finishing 9th with pretty much a whole team of championship players. Brilliant!

As I said in my previous posts I can accept in the have and the have nots, and that we don’t have any money for whatever reason.

My trust in Bielsa remains the same (that’s my own stubbornness if you like) but AK is not convincing anyone with this rhetoric.

If it was really true, the strategic intent, blueprint for the club, then why did we buy James and Raphinia thus blocking any chance for Summerville (who joined before both) and has since been blocked?

The reality is there is no more money, the reason doesn’t actually matter. With regards to the Ratner analogy he was dealing with shareholders (public, customers) in this instance, there is no public ownership other than the known board of directors.

The whole sorry charade undoes a lot of the good relationships built up over the last four seasons.

We support the team whatever the league or situation it’s reasonable to expect the truth in return.


 

 

23 Jan 2022 13:01:54
HOOKSIE curious on your to do list?

1) Sack Orta
2) Sack MB
3) Unstick CAPS lock…. what next?

Ask Alladin for a loan of his lamp?

I get very clearly you want removed.

But what would actually you put in their place, and how financially would you fund it, without wasting any of your three wishes?

Classof92

1.) 23 Jan 2022 14:30:55
What looks so deflating is the picture of out best player looks like he’s say what the hell am I doing here after that loss. I do hope that he will stay.


2.) 23 Jan 2022 14:45:50
Spot on Class. None of those wishes would do us any good at this stage of the season! Our injury list would be exactly the same for any other manager, and getting rid of Orta means we don’t buy players anyway! If there’s no money to spend, there is, quite simply, NO MONEY! None of the above changes that!


3.) 23 Jan 2022 17:55:10
Bright seriously!
No money to spend?, even though countless articles have shown we have around 100million to spend

We are playing in the richest league in the world So please stop with the oh we have no money bluff.


4.) 23 Jan 2022 19:26:54
Chris if Radz gave orta the money to spend then why would he not spend? It doesn’t personally affect his pockets, it’s like your Boss (my wife) pocket money and me not spending it. Makes no sense.

It’s either bielsa and his stubbornness or Radz keeping his wonga in his pocket. Neither is ortas fault.

If we buy a player and he’s garbage then that possibly could put some blame onto orta but other than that I’m not sure why he takes the brunt of most complaints.


5.) 23 Jan 2022 20:17:19
Money isn’t getting spent because that stubborn old boot Bielsa doesn’t believe he needs anymore players.
His regime has crocked half the squad but hey while we are in the crap we will carry on doing murder ball and running a broken squad to the bone but hey it’ll all be fine because his sweetheart tylers fit again.
How naive is Radz to think he can fool us all into believing top 6 next season?
In which league did he mean.


6.) 23 Jan 2022 21:52:14
Bielsa wanted players in the summer. I didn’t state there was no money as fact, just created an example that sacking Orta and Bielsa would not change our ability to invest, same as the fact that our injury list wouldn’t change. Hypothetical. £100m to spend, based on what? As an individual, Radz has to be willing to spend it, or are you talking ffp? He could have £100bn to spend, but if he doesn’t want to, then there is nowt.


 

 

23 Jan 2022 10:47:27
Even through these rose tinted glasses.

Got to say yesterdays result hurt more than any other result, so far this season.

That was a game not to lose as a minimum, think bub got selections wrong as once more we lost the midfield, whether that be Forshaw out or Dallas energy missing we got beat in there again.

Think if I had posted last night after many conciliatory beers I would have been a lot more angry than today, really hurt that one.

But the dust has settled a little, Newcastle and Norwich are in the last chance saloon so these results are always possible.

And as winning at West Ham previously never guaranteed our safety, then just for the moment, I don’t buy we’re nailed on for relegation either.

Fortunately we have a break to regroup and hopefully get more players back. I cannot defend not having a striker and midfielder ready to go in our ranks, but simply don’t believe we have the money for whatever reason, we don’t have the funds.

Roberts is still only 22 but bub is not helping him or us in choosing him over Joffy.

Based on our owners finances to date we’re probably hoping to mirror the Brighton, West Ham route in the hope of consolidating our position over five, six years plus.

Saying that, as much as I openly profess Bubs as a genius, Moyes, Potter and Viera have out performed our manager to date this season.

Managers like players can lose form, and I really hope as was the case with Costa, bub stops this perseverance with Roberts.

Most importantly I hope bamford gets back after the break.

And we sign a couple of much needed reinforcements at CF and ACM

I still believe we will be ok, but yesterday cannot be repeated.

We can be outclassed in this billionaires league, but never outworked, outfought or most worryingly out thought.

Classof92

1.) 23 Jan 2022 11:55:23
ORTA OUT! MB OUT! NOTHING HAS CHANGED!


2.) 23 Jan 2022 12:21:10
I think you’re right about the lack of funds Class, I’ve heard through a report that Leeds only have around 20Mil to spend without breaching FFP, Radz may have more money to spend but he can’t. What fans don’t realize is that we haven’t sold any players of significant value to balance the books. Whether this information is 100% I can not say.
To buy a proven striker is massive price these days and with what’s apparently available financially, you can forget it.
Bielsa’s persistance with Roberts is very hard to understand, what I can understand is that persevering with a young player until he develops into what fits successfully into the squad is all well and good, but there doesn’t even seem to be great deal of difference over the time he’s had.

I also think James finds his new or temporary position too much pressure for him, he’s expected now to score goals which is harsh for someone who is essentially a winger.
Rodrigo is another player who is out injured too often, when he returns he’s way too slow and his passing is dreadful, it’ll come good eventually for him but he’s not consistent enough. My personal opinion is that Premiership football is too much for him and he’s not young!
So for me the natural fit would be Gelhardt, yes he’s very young and that probably is why Bielsa is protecting him and only introducing him intermittently through his development into the first team, which I do understand.
So you can see what a dilemma Bielsa has on his hands in how to fill in Bamford’s boots when he’s injured, short term there isn’t one, but long term I do believe Gelhardt will be challenging Bamford for his position.


3.) 23 Jan 2022 12:24:36
an honest assessment Class
El Loco would have served LUFC far better if he had selected Hjelde at LB, Dallas crucially in CM ( CM is his best position and he is wasted at LB) and Gelhardt at CF ( yes an actual CF)

Scoring goals without Bamford esp will remain a huge problem this season if El Loco repeats that formation and selection he choose against Newcastle

Bamford ( remains out, Bielsa doesn't know when ( or if) he will return this season) - that is a huge problem ; Bamford returning or NOT returning fit and scoring will be crucial in staying up

Raph hasn't scored in open play for 8 matches : we vitally need his to restart scoring goals I would like to see him play more central at times

Harrison 4 goals in last 3 games : currently our best chance of goals

Rodrigo 1 goal in 4 games in career little output in goals this season

DJ the odd goal here and there

Klich potentially has some goals in him

Dallas yes IF El Loco plays him in midfield not wasted at LB

Gelhardt yes ; he must be played by EL Loco from the start but El Loco doesn't ; just wastes him gives him 10 mins

Roberts 2 goals in past 80 matches or so ( enough said)

Forshaw and KP don't score

More goals needed from CBs and defenders at corners etc Struick, Llorente, Koch, Ayling etc

of course no sign of any LUFC Jan signings to remedy this : a CF, a CAM. a goal scoring CM

LUFC remain in serious danger of R.


4.) 23 Jan 2022 13:04:38
If we do go down don’t worry we have plenty of ones for the future to drive us back up and we will have money to spend again.


5.) 23 Jan 2022 14:38:28
That’s just laughable I’m afraid Hooksie. In my opinion, that is, of course. Our luck has been horrendous this season, both on the pitch (VAR as an example) and off it.


 

 

20 Jan 2022 17:46:33
Like others, I do not wish to see Derby go out of the league.

I can sympathise with Boro and Wycombe but actually believe their claims have little chance of success, but Boro chairman astute enough to know if he’s an obstacle for potential new buyers, then there’s a payout to be had.

Once again this comes firmly back to EFL’s door and who was on their executive committee throughout Mel Morris’s tenure as Derby owner.

£200,000 we were fined for spygate, when crowd riots and abhorrent racism incur a fraction of this amount in fines!

This ridiculous fine for Leeds was mainly attributable to Morris and fat Frank stirring everyone up against us whilst all the while Morris was openly and flagrantly cheating the system.

Remember how much money and resources EFL exec put into the ownership of Celino’s yacht whist they exhaustively tried to throw him out under proper owners test, thus placing Leeds at serious risk of administration.

Of course, we always knew we were the cash cow tv wise for the championship, but it’s interesting to note that in Wednesday and Derby who were heavily represented on the EFL exec, both were found guilty of cheating

There has to be a price to pay for Derby, sadly that may mean selling all their assets best players (wouldn’t mind Lawrence) and if that means relegation then do be it, but the club must survive for the decent Derby and Wednesday fans.

It’s incompetent administrative mismanagement by the EFL themselves that should be brought under scrutiny by this very sorry mess.

Classof92

1.) 20 Jan 2022 18:40:20
That's always the issue in these cases, as we know from experience. It's the Fans who suffer. I agree regarding Lawrence, a good player when he is in the mood.


2.) 20 Jan 2022 19:33:39
Lawrence indeed a good player on his day but that’s infrequent. Know quite a few derby fans and he’s not held in high regard.


3.) 20 Jan 2022 19:35:19
Excellent post Class as usual mate.


4.) 20 Jan 2022 20:07:13
Cheers Cork, admittedly I’ve only ever see Lawrence on highlights and he seems the standout player but admittedly that’s not based over a sustained period and it is the championship. (Like Kent In Scottish PL)

Not everyone can bridge the gap to the premier and sustain it, when you look at Struick you know he can be comfortable playing at the higher level, but take Luke and I thinks he’s struggling to sustain it at Pl level and believe the club are looking for other RB options.


5.) 20 Jan 2022 20:35:14
Lawrence I’ve been told a lazy prick.
As for Ayling I’m not sure. I like his attitude and leadership skills but for a RB not to have any assists last season in the modern game is more than poor.
However if Leeds were to upgrade his position he’d be an absolute gem of a squad player like a modern day Madeley.


 

 

20 Jan 2022 13:50:18
Bielsa just said Bamford has new foot injury!

Both Firpo and Forshaw hamstrings and unlikely to be available.

But we won last week without them and we can do it again.

Classof92

1.) 20 Jan 2022 16:36:24
Absolutely, Class. We can indeed!


2.) 20 Jan 2022 18:42:04
A performance like last week and we will be OK. Here's hoping.


 

 

 

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15 Nov 2021 17:44:34
Don’t think KP would consider that lot Brighty he knows how that would be received I’m sure!

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07 Sep 2021 21:36:40
That’s quality Martyn
Don’t know the buzz bar from memory but there is a few of them in LA

Glad to hear they have all the essentials though, have a great time mate.

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06 Sep 2021 11:05:06
Hi Martyn, hope you’re well Pal.

Sold our place in Tenerife as red tape was becoming a nightmare, but off to Portugal in September then hopefully Tenerife in November to visit some old friends.

You got any visits planned Martyn?
Stage safe and well 👍.

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25 Apr 2021 19:46:09
Totally in agreement, well said George, the irony of them NOT taking any action against the sick six should not be lost on anyone.

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06 Mar 2021 11:32:17
Good man Martyn!

Stage safe and well buddy.

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24 Jan 2022 20:19:37
Nothing wrong with being the underdog punching above your weight finishing 9th with pretty much a whole team of championship players. Brilliant!

As I said in my previous posts I can accept in the have and the have nots, and that we don’t have any money for whatever reason.

My trust in Bielsa remains the same (that’s my own stubbornness if you like) but AK is not convincing anyone with this rhetoric.

If it was really true, the strategic intent, blueprint for the club, then why did we buy James and Raphinia thus blocking any chance for Summerville (who joined before both) and has since been blocked?

The reality is there is no more money, the reason doesn’t actually matter. With regards to the Ratner analogy he was dealing with shareholders (public, customers) in this instance, there is no public ownership other than the known board of directors.

The whole sorry charade undoes a lot of the good relationships built up over the last four seasons.

We support the team whatever the league or situation it’s reasonable to expect the truth in return.

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24 Jan 2022 12:48:45
Just read Kinnears statement myself Whitey have no words, well can think of a few!

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22 Jan 2022 07:58:06
Who? He looks like a Doctor.

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20 Jan 2022 20:07:13
Cheers Cork, admittedly I’ve only ever see Lawrence on highlights and he seems the standout player but admittedly that’s not based over a sustained period and it is the championship. (Like Kent In Scottish PL)

Not everyone can bridge the gap to the premier and sustain it, when you look at Struick you know he can be comfortable playing at the higher level, but take Luke and I thinks he’s struggling to sustain it at Pl level and believe the club are looking for other RB options.

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18 Jan 2022 13:20:04
Great post Vid spot on, and even better to from you after a while hope all good with you pal.

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