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28 Jun 2021 00:52:21
The Leeds board don't like to do things fast. No resolution to the long running alioski saga, let him just go already, we need better LB option than him.
They even taking forever signing 2 big assets that have been at the club for 3 years in Harrison/ beilsa, get it done.
Hoping lots of behind scenes work going on and then the 3-4 players we need signed up fast.

Melbourne white

1.) 28 Jun 2021 07:02:20
The window isn’t even open yet mate and Gianni is only just back from euros, patience!


2.) 28 Jun 2021 09:49:14
They quoted all transfers would like to be done before end of June so they get a full pre season.


3.) 28 Jun 2021 11:23:11
Lufc 4, window been open since 9th June, 3 weeks already but should be patient.
Thought they’d have sorted beilsa contract and Harrison buy as no brainers.


4.) 28 Jun 2021 11:33:55
Harrison done for 1st of July, also, a YEP reporter has stated that no signings will be made by the start of pre season.


 

 

07 Nov 2020 22:54:39
Conceding a few recently and think break is needed, hope can get a few back into squad.
Was Pablo dropped from squad because of his attitude last game when taken off?
Not many positives today, big one is we are in the premiership and that is amazing, 2nd is bamford finishing improving and the offside tough to take, pointing where he wanted pass.

Negatives, keeper getting beat at near post, costa and Dallas poor.
Also feel struik not a DMF, he was pedestrian today, sorry berm but you are wrong, we much better with Phillips and I think u know it. Is he the best defensive MF, no, but better with than without or until we find a better one, should have kept veira, big mistake. Let's hope Phillips back after break and be good to see Lorente play alongside of Koch.

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1.) 09 Nov 2020 22:30:23
Meltdown How can the sale of RV be a mistake when we 1. Achieved promotion without him. 2. His absence helped see the rise of KP. 3. He's reportedly available for transfer again at only a 30% increase in price than the amount we sold him for. I like RV as a player but remarking his sale was a mistake just factually incorrect.


2.) 14 Nov 2020 06:51:24
we needed the money at the time and had we not sold we would have had to sell other players and who knows what impact that would have had on the team that went up. Same with Kemar by all accounts.


 

 

15 Feb 2020 07:41:04
Every game now going to feel tense, can't afford slip ups now.
Tough one for brom against Forrest, do we want brom to win and keep teams below at bay or can we still catch them for first.
My feeling is Forrest to beat them but we have to win next 2 at home.
Bristol invested well in window, unlike us!
They have some decent players, eliason, diedhiou, wells and have won 5 out of last 6
Going to plump for 2-0, bamford and klich.

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30 Dec 2019 09:11:45
Rumors that Leeds not getting Brewster as he has got move to Swansea, does that mean we can get Ayew to rejoin bielsa?

Melbourne white

1.) 30 Dec 2019 20:56:33
Let's hope for Harry Kane.


2.) 03 Jan 2020 06:49:34
Now that Clarke is back with Spurs Kane should be surplus to requirements so I can see that happening Bazooka.


 

 

27 Apr 2019 23:58:48
Time to tinker slightly with team, I would have Pablo on bench and try to rest him, play some part to keep sharp but maybe 20 mins. Don't think MB will but would like to see Izzy or bouguz in his place.
Would also drop Harrison and play either Clarke or Shackleton.
Be happy with draw against villa and then beat Ipswich, still need a point or 2 for 3rd.
Scary because other playoff teams in form but if we play at our top level can beat any of these, but can we do that over 3 games?

Melbourne white

1.) 28 Apr 2019 07:23:23
Roofe, Alioski, Douglas all out - Leif Davis confirmed he's had surgery and is done for the year on Instagram too, while Halme, Termunzhukov + Nicell are seemingly injured too (didn't feature in last 23s game, in Halme's case a while) .

With that in mind, I think Bielsa will pick:

Casilla; Ayling, Jansson, Cooper, Dallas; Forshaw, Klich; Hernandez, Roberts, Harruison; Bamford.
Res: BPF, Phillips, Berardi, Shackleton, Clarke, Gotts, Stevens.

Others who could feature Brown, Edmondson, Diaz, Bogusz, Struijk, Odour, Hosannah.

I would personally go full strength for this game and if we're going to rest anybody do it against Ipswich, however if we do need to rest somebody then Pablo, Ayling and Pontus the obvious ones.

Love to see Shack get a start on the right wing. MOT ALAW.


2.) 30 Apr 2019 14:20:42
I dread the "same team again" statement but I think he is not a man for change. Personally I would like to see Odour for Harrison and, if necessary, Edmundson up front.


3.) 30 Apr 2019 20:21:49
We need to secure 3rd. No time for tinkering right now.


4.) 01 May 2019 11:12:40
Apparently efl brought a new rule in that teams have to play there first strong team. Was due to the dog botherers making 10 changes on the last game and affecting the relegation places. Not that it affects owt this year as the relegation places are already confirmed.


5.) 03 May 2019 20:49:00
Give the under 23’s a run out again Ipswich.


 

 

 

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17 Jul 2021 08:29:05
Underwhelmed with transfer window thus far, think Firpo be a great addition and needed that LB player.
I understand (before people say) that only first 6 weeks of open window, but only 4 weeks till KO and would've been good to have incomings in earlier.
I know that euros just finished but surely Orta looking at players throughout season and not just starting now.
Seems like under 23's more important but surely not, get a move on.
Think to be a top quality squad in premiership that u need to outlay every season as well as out goings. Think we could get away with 50 mil on 3-4 ins, especially if send out a few, alioski, cassila and costa
Reading now that they feel we don't need that creative player as have Rodrigo and Roberts, god help us.
Should sell costa and Roberts, IMO a swap + cash to baggies for Pareria but looks unlikely, think if can get him for around 10-15, it's a no brainer.
No sign of a out and out striker, hope they not thinking just having bamford enough.

Melbourne white

1.) 17 Jul 2021 11:37:20
Of course Orta and his staff watch players throughout the year and, as we know sometimes track specific players over a period of seasons. As per earlier comment below, have been planning this window since the end of January, starting with drawing up their long-lists. You can only get down to serious transfer negotiations when the other parties potentially involved are prepared to do so, and the various factors covered in previous threads have further delayed that preparedness to do so this year. It may well have been easier to get other clubs to talk about u23 players than senior players, and had we put off u23 recruitment until our senior incomings were completed, we may well have missed out on the youngsters we wanted, or been forced to pay significantly more due to changed contractual status.

Sometimes over the last few years, seeing some of the dismissive or even derogatory comments on this site about u23 recruitment, I haven’t known whether to laugh or cry. Some seem to think Orta is recruiting to the u23s as a private menagerie - a distraction of time and funds from first team. Academy players who transition into the first team will save us tens of millions of pounds in the longer term, and those who don’t quite make the grade will still provide a profit when sold on. This has become increasingly the case since Brexit, which made recruitment from lesser European leagues very difficult or sometimes impossible, forcing clubs in this country to focus on a far smaller and more expensive market, and increasingly on ‘homegrown’ talent. Far better to get the latter when they’re young, feeding into the u23s and u18s, and if you can get them before they sign a pro contract, all the better.

For all the above reasons, I will applaud Orta and his staff for bringing in the likes of Sean McGurk, Amari Miller, Darryl Ombang, Luca Thomas and Cuba Cline, and wait patiently for further senior additions.


2.) 17 Jul 2021 11:46:27
Not quite time to panic just yet Mel (but not far off) Looks like same old same old. Ideal targets slipping through out hands as "big boys" circle. I agree that if selling Roberts and Costa give us more clout then let's do it asap. Our ideal target may be impossible to find, a box to box Creative, Tackling midfielder. Oh and contributes 20 goals a season. I can dream can't I? I wasn't too convinced on Nandez but right now even he is slipping away. As per, at the last minute Victor will pull out all the stops and unviel Johnny nobody from Nowhere United, we will all go scrambling to Google him then light a candle to hope he comes good.
This season my prayers are with Rodrigo, that he shines and shows us all just how good he can be. Linking with Raphina and tearing the opposition to shreds.


3.) 17 Jul 2021 12:54:19
Hope your right Leo, need Rodrigo to improve and he looked better last few games, still not convinced though. He not a 20 goal man and still unsure if he that creative linking player that runs at defenses and makes things happen.
I feel we need that player, a st max or Eze type
Was hoping toon would’ve gone down and then tried for maximan, he has had a few injuries but he is class. Would still now go to them with Roberts and 20mil.
I hear what clueless is saying but those under 23’s that we all thought were well thought of ( gerhart etc) didn’t even get a chance. Should have tried them in last 6 games, they could save us millions but had to see them.


4.) 17 Jul 2021 13:16:19
Leo - who exactly are these ideal targets who are slipping through our hands? - do you have some specific players in mind?

At least one of the European ‘big boys’ were in for Firpo, but he chose to come to us.

Not sure where you’re coming from in your comment re Victor coming up with last minute signings. Surely you weren’t unhappy with last season’s late signings, Llorente and Raphinha?


5.) 17 Jul 2021 14:21:25
Mel - St-Maximin is a left winger, so he will have been considered when Orta and his team were drawing up the long-list for that position. Who knows whether he made that initial list of 20, but if he’s not in the 3 player shortlist, Orta and Bielsa will have their reasons.

Why the impatience to see Geldhart etc in the last 6 games. Those games were not free hits, where we finished in the table affected not only the money received, which helps fund transfers, and that position and the way in which we finished the season directly impacts the way we are seen by prospective new players. It also created a positive momentum for the squad. Teams that tail off at the end of a season can carry that baggage into the next one - it certainly didn’t help the Blunts.

Bielsa will already have a view as to what role Geldhart and others will play this season. It’s not like Orta is rushing out to splash cash in the positions Joe or Sam Greenwood can play anyway, and likewise for Cody Drameh and Charlie Cresswell.

On the one hand you’re saying we should have given Geldhart a go, ‘cos he could have saved us money, and on the other you’re suggesting we really need to recruit new players to the positions in which he plays. You can’t have it both ways.


6.) 18 Jul 2021 00:51:51
St max can play through the middle as well, just saying he is that type of player that change games.
As for giving young players a go, didn’t have to make massive changes to team, but I feel a couple of them should’ve had some game time.
We have history of bringing in a lot young players but not many have made the next step ( Edmonton, polish lad) .
We insisted on playing alioski, who IMO is crap as either LB or winger, why not try Davis, think he now gone on loan
Guess we see things differently, my initial point is lack of urgency for first team incomings.
Only Firpo bought, signed Harrison but only been here 3,seasons, not even had bielsa signed.
Most of us on here feel we need 4-5 players, GK, LB, creative MF, striker.


7.) 18 Jul 2021 08:46:42
Mel - there will have been no lack of urgency. It’s not like they’ll start work on one position in first team or u23s then move onto the next when it’s done. They will be pushing work forward on all fronts concurrently, then when one of the targets falls into place get the deal done ASAP, so someone else doesn’t step in and at worst snatch the player from our grasp or at the least raise the price and wages we need to pay in order to secure him. They have three, ranked specific targets is mind for each senior position, which will have been cleared with Bielsa, and will be working on getting the best one possible as soon as possible.

What do you want Orta to do, target sub-optimal players just so he can get some bodies through the door?

The decisions on which u23s get some game time, or fully step up to the first team squad will be made by Bielsa. He sees them in training or will be monitoring them if they are on loan. Clearly he judges that Edmondson and Bogusz did not show enough on loan last year to suggest they are ready for the Prem, and the same goes for McCalmont, and hence they’ve all gone on loan again. If we’d still been in the Championship, Davis would almost certainly have played extensively last season, but again clearly Bielsa doesn’t feel he’s quite ready for the Prem yet, hence the loan. With these players, it has been judged that it is better for their development to get significant senior game time elsewhere rather than play u23 matches and the occasional first team minutes.

I repeat that on the one hand you’re wanting Geldhart to get a chance and on the other you’re saying we need new signings in two of the positions he plays, which would further reduce his prospects of game time.


8.) 18 Jul 2021 12:10:18
No I’m saying gelhart should have played some of final games and then may not need to buy a striker, he may and I hope he is class, but only ever seen in under 23’s.


 

 

10 Jul 2021 05:44:34
Having watched 3 Argentina games in Copa America, not over impressed with Du Paul. George said he is a similar player to Gazza, but not for me at 35-40 mil.
Missed pen in last game but other 3 games not involved too much and happy if we cooled on him.
We definitely need that creative type player to fill siaz/ Pablo void, I would prefer ( if spending that sort of cash) , to get in both adama traore 20 mil and Matheus Pareria for 15mil. Think under beilsa that both could go to another level. Even try Newcastle with 20-30 mil for St maximan.
Another option is use vacant loan position and get shaquiri or deli Alli
Need England to win final then Lufc to bring in the required few players needed for first team, not under 23's.
Have LB, now onto striker and creative MF.

Melbourne white

1.) 10 Jul 2021 06:14:42
De Paul too expensive, Trapped too expensive, Pariera turned down, St Maxim too injury prone, Shaquiri injury prone, Ali probably too expensive. I'm sure we will get someone but don't think it will be any of the above.


 

 

14 Jun 2021 06:03:47
Phillips was immense and stand out MOM performance, could be some cheeky offers coming in but need to build team around him and raphi.
Hearing Pareria could be around 15 mil, got to be in for him IMO
I guess the Euro's will be a shopping window, I can't help but watch to see who would benefit us, I did like look of Breel Embolo for the Swiss, powerful forward.
Also see Van arnholt started for Dutch, is he a free player.

Melbourne white

1.) 14 Jun 2021 10:44:49
Embolo did look strong and put in the effort Leeds would demand.
I believe Van Aaholt is out of contract next month. 30 but got a couple of years in him.


 

 

13 Jun 2021 13:46:16
Is this young Croatian LB ( Gvardiol) who we were linked with, see how he goes.

Melbourne white

1.) 13 Jun 2021 14:31:29
I believe so. Big lad would have helped us from set pieces!


 

 

04 Jun 2021 00:00:46
I do feel we need a striker, unsure about Batsuiyi but was worth 32mil a few years back and not sure of his past goal scoring form. But couldn't get a game for palace so maybe not or? Loan to buy.
I would go for Origi but then Liverpool may want swap with raphi, no thanks.
We need minimum of 3 brought in, LB, creative MF and striker. I like pariera and he's Brazilian which would be good for our magic winger.

Melbourne white

1.) 04 Jun 2021 06:59:55
Leeds definitely need another striker

Totally unnecessary risk to have just 2 ( re any potential injuries ) .

Look what happened to Wolves with their dramatic decline once they lost Jimenez for a very large part of the season!


2.) 04 Jun 2021 07:23:05
Bat has been quite prolific for Belgium though so maybe its more a reflection of Roy's overly negative tactics than the player himself?


3.) 04 Jun 2021 07:46:35
Alf - yes but easier to score in an utterly dominant Belgium team, the best team in the world who have scored 40 goals in their past 10 ganes

But you can't blame Roy Hodgson because in over 6 years of club football he has scored just 23 goals, something clearly not happening for him in club football

Steer well clear.


4.) 04 Jun 2021 14:21:42
Well you say that Baz but isn't someone who can convert chances what we need? We make enough of them and Paddy missed 21 good chances this year despite scoring 17. Imagine if we converted just half of those 21 along with the additional 17!
Bubs has worked with Bat before so it would be less of a risk than other players maybe? Bat has done poorly since joining Chelsea but was good before that by all accounts. I've heard the fee may only be something like 10 million so fairly cheap if we can get the best out of the player.


5.) 04 Jun 2021 15:13:51
Heard from whom Alf re £ 10 million fee?

: at best it should be a loan to buy for £10 million given his unimpressive goalscoring club track record over the past 6 years.


6.) 04 Jun 2021 20:35:21
Bam, Rodrigo, Harrison, Roberts, Rapha, how many more strikers do we need? All can play up top.


 

 

 

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28 Jun 2021 11:23:11
Lufc 4, window been open since 9th June, 3 weeks already but should be patient.
Thought they’d have sorted beilsa contract and Harrison buy as no brainers.

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18 Jul 2021 12:10:18
No I’m saying gelhart should have played some of final games and then may not need to buy a striker, he may and I hope he is class, but only ever seen in under 23’s.

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18 Jul 2021 00:51:51
St max can play through the middle as well, just saying he is that type of player that change games.
As for giving young players a go, didn’t have to make massive changes to team, but I feel a couple of them should’ve had some game time.
We have history of bringing in a lot young players but not many have made the next step ( Edmonton, polish lad) .
We insisted on playing alioski, who IMO is crap as either LB or winger, why not try Davis, think he now gone on loan
Guess we see things differently, my initial point is lack of urgency for first team incomings.
Only Firpo bought, signed Harrison but only been here 3,seasons, not even had bielsa signed.
Most of us on here feel we need 4-5 players, GK, LB, creative MF, striker.

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17 Jul 2021 12:54:19
Hope your right Leo, need Rodrigo to improve and he looked better last few games, still not convinced though. He not a 20 goal man and still unsure if he that creative linking player that runs at defenses and makes things happen.
I feel we need that player, a st max or Eze type
Was hoping toon would’ve gone down and then tried for maximan, he has had a few injuries but he is class. Would still now go to them with Roberts and 20mil.
I hear what clueless is saying but those under 23’s that we all thought were well thought of ( gerhart etc) didn’t even get a chance. Should have tried them in last 6 games, they could save us millions but had to see them.

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21 Jun 2021 01:58:33
Hooksie, I totally agree on MP, think him and raphi would make a fantastic attacking force.
For me a creative MF is our top priority, missed that last season but did have years previously with Pablo.
If can land him for 15-20 be great buy.
Then 2nd on list must be LB and then another quality forward and would be happy with that. Think 3 players in plus Harrison a minimum and wouldn’t break bank.
20 -MP
10-15 LB
20-30- or loan to buy for striker (? Origi)

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10 Jun 2021 00:24:06
For me it’s minimum of 4?
LB - galan 5 mil
AMF - Pareria 20 mil
MF- du Paul 35 mil
Striker - Origi 20 mil

I would sell/ let go, cassila, costa, alioski and Roberts ( (but think he staying) , to raise funds to buy Harrison
and if can get Harrison reed for 6-8mil, be good cover for Phillips.

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