12 Jul 2024 20:27:57
Meslier apparently not going anywhere
Now I am a critic of him but let's be honest
If we were in the market for a keeper we would be saying " we need a keeper with championship experience and maybe premier league experience and a keeper that's won promotion before etc" then he would tick the boxes.
12 Jul 2024 20:41:46
Yep Mes has plenty of experience in both EPL and EFL of
- letting in first shot in goal
- conceding at his near post
Etc
Leeds need and deserve better.
12 Jul 2024 21:04:49
Baz You omitted the activation of his hologrammatic technology during play.
12 Jul 2024 21:06:04
The more experienced he's become, the worse he's got to some extent (stagnated is probably the better word) . It's a strange one.
ANTHONY PATTERSON!
12 Jul 2024 21:20:51
Dill Significant portion of the fault must lie with the goalkeeping coaching staff.
Have you communicated your recommendation to the relevant powers? OP?
12 Jul 2024 22:07:30
Repeating Meslier is crap is just a narrative on constant repeat and repeating even when some don’t even know what it means just because everyone else says the same.
I’ll be alone in saying I’m glad his staying as our, in my opinion, eventual world class keeper.
12 Jul 2024 22:52:15
Melbourne White, tomorrow Ascot - 16:07 - Lord Melbourne - 4/ 1 - just for you mate and for anyone else we have Georginio - Ascot - 14:57 - 12/ 1 each way bargain! ??.
12 Jul 2024 23:16:10
George
May I ask are you actually a real everyday person or some kind of odd ball who sits in his bedroom with his co.
13 Jul 2024 00:44:31
' eventual world class ' jeez
El Loco OP
not got a scooby doo.
13 Jul 2024 01:48:30
Cork If I'm in Shepherds Bush, I work well. Anywhere else then you're an oddball.
13 Jul 2024 03:32:36
Yeah he's definitely suffered through some bad coaching, George.
Just waiting back on an email from Mr Steinsson, lol.
13 Jul 2024 05:13:16
I'd hire and listen to you Dill.
13 Jul 2024 05:14:37
OP Meslier not even international class yet.
13 Jul 2024 06:35:40
OP no you not on your own I have always said think he should stay when there was talk of him going to dog poor mu.
13 Jul 2024 07:54:27
I’m glad Whiteman because the negativity towards Meslier in my opinion is definitely unwarranted and bizarrely way off the scales.
Baz, your sheep like views on football are of no surprise to me, you can tell Farke that he hasn’t got a Scooby Doo because he has already quoted that Mez shows qualities of a world class keeper but admits he is not the finished article yet.
The same narrative also goes for the reason he is "sub standard" is because of his goalkeeping coach or coaches, how does anyone even know that?
Who actually, in Auntie Baz’s words has a Scooby Doo about these coaches? Like they know everything about them. !
George as I’ve said before, most top quality keepers don’t come to their prime until they are 29/ 30 years old. Maignan, France’s keeper is 29, Mez at 24 is still gaining more experience and will in my estimation become Frances number one in the years to come.
I’m not expecting anyone to change their opinion of Meslier but in my opinion you’re all wrong about him.
13 Jul 2024 08:42:50
I guess is anecdotal with the coaches, OP. When he came he was a great prospect, made some progress early and then never really got rid of the flaws that have plagued him for a few seasons now. If it's not the coaches then it says something about his limitations. Got to be one or the other.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's poor by any means and we will be fine with him in net again this season, but I'm not seeing the progression expected of a keeper that has 5 seasons as a starter. We can sell him and get better, is what I assume most people feel like, myself included. But we don't NEED better to get promoted. It would be nice though.
I've banged this drum a few times but Anthony Pattterson is a better keeper than Mes and one stat that did stick out to me was the 8+ goal swing between them when comparing goals prevented - Patterson's 4.06 as opposed to Mes' -4.49. That's MASSIVE. How many more points we would have got exactly is hard to define with accuracy, but it would've been more than we got with Mes in net, that much is demonstrably true.
Patterson had a better saving percentage (69.23%) whilst dealing with exponentially more shots. He's superior at taking crosses or balls in the air. His positioning isn't unreliable and his distribution on chipped and longer passes are much better.
He's just a commanding and assured goalkeeper, which I don't really get that feeling from Meslier, unfortunately.
13 Jul 2024 08:57:28
Guillame Restes new wonderkid goalie out of Toulouse likely leapfrogs Meslier for France.
13 Jul 2024 09:10:44
Not on your own at all OP! In all aspects of your post!
13 Jul 2024 09:51:23
Good luck with the signing of Patterson Dill, he is as you say a quality young keeper with prospects like Mez. It looks more like he’ll become a number 2 or 3 keeper for a top flight club like Arsenal. Who can blame him or Sunderland to cash in.
Glad to hear that Bright ? there’s no need for this way over the top negativity towards Mez.
13 Jul 2024 09:54:44
Make a sentence from the following words. Says Dill What.
13 Jul 2024 10:26:19
Patterson will get a move to EPL club either this season or season after
Interesting how at present notva single club anywhere in world has made any ofer nor even interested in signing ": ( at some point) world class Mes " ??
Funny that ?.
13 Jul 2024 10:33:11
And. OP . Meslier won't get anywhere near France 1st team
Maignan and Samba locked in there and U21 gk Restes is rated highly . future number 1
Question for El Loco OP AND Brighty please could you list Meslier's goslkeeping strengths. things he does regularly well as a goalkeeper? ??.
13 Jul 2024 12:00:19
Pretty much answered that question in another post, in terms of how I rate him. Nowt more to add on yet another repetitive and boring subject.
13 Jul 2024 12:52:41
Brim full of attrubites then lol.
13 Jul 2024 13:15:47
Restes and Chevalier going to have France #1 and #2 locked up for years if they keep going how they're going.
Patterson could well go to the EPL now as a back up. Alternatively, he could be #1 for us and be an EPL starter next season. Sunderland ha e financial issues. What money we would get for Mes would cover cost of AP with change left over. Would need to sell him on the project and his pathway to being a Premier League starter. Doable imo.
13 Jul 2024 14:06:39
Good post Dill.
13 Jul 2024 17:15:58
George can’t be an oddball he make sense and posted some cracking post. and very informative they are you may not agree but there are many on here you may like to call them oddballs but definitely not George.
13 Jul 2024 17:27:26
Agreed Whitey
Georgey occasionally perhaps has a tad quirky humour that may or may not irk a few on here
But when it comes to very good logical posts he is right up there.
13 Jul 2024 18:27:11
Thanks ? Whitey and Baz. Appreciate that.
13 Jul 2024 19:15:18
You are welcome Georgey bro.
14 Jul 2024 05:10:58
Well, despite most opinions here, Mes did actually improve last year. No one can argue that (only Baz) . Hopefully he can show further improvement again this coming season. I’m for one happy he’s going no where.
We should congratulate him on his likely France international career since Baz saying he’ll get nowhere near is probably the best thing to happen to him.
Saying that, I’m still annoyed we let BP Farrel go!
14 Jul 2024 09:19:40
Ugh sigh Ani
Mes improved last season? Almost on a par with your wholly erroneous deeply silly unfounded suggestion that Ipswich had gone.
Not a chance that Gash Meslier becomes France Number 1 . not just my prediction but our poster of the season prediction Dill too ?
Who Dill also states that Meslier has either regressed or at very best case scenario plateaued. certainly not improved ?.
14 Jul 2024 11:15:30
True to type, I Knew you would disagree Baz. I also Knew that your broken record re Ipswich was still going around. Sadly everyone else on here hasn't the time to remind you of your erroneous predictions every post.
Only in your one-eyed world, is it possible that the team who has the most clean sheets, second lowest goals conceded has absolutely nothing to do with the keeper?
100% disagree with you Baz, and if it's the case, I disagree with Dill. The fact that the posts here, complaining about Mes were virtually non-existent last season says it all.
14 Jul 2024 13:06:52
Err Ani NOT just Dill and I
the following posters definitely complained about tne serious deficiencies of Mes last season
Cork, George, Class, Dill, Woody, Dougie myself . that's 7 posters
Pretty sure many others did too
Sorry to rain on your misguided parade ?
Give it up fella . its over.
14 Jul 2024 13:25:17
George your post Speak for themselves but you are more than welcome.