16 Jul 2024 02:54:01
Just spent some time going through the Leeds website and others and we realistically have these players available:
Meslier GK
Cairns GK
Byram D
Rodon D
Struijk D
Firpo D
Crew D
Cooper D
Ampadu M
Anderson M
Rothwell M
Gruev M
Gnonto W
Summerville W
James W
Rutter CF
Piroe CF
Joseph CF
Bamford CF
We have others but they are going, we also should take into consideration that Cry, Gnonto, Cooper and Bamford will be sold which means we have only 15 players!
You all know me and yes I’m as Leeds United rose tinted as they come, but this is worrying. I’m shocked at how many are going or at least rumoured to be going, and yet no one coming in, lots of rumours but again we seem to be lagging behind!
Dill do you know anything?
Does anybody know, I know the 49ers do it their way but we look like we haven’t learned our lessons from that disastrous start to the new season last season, maybe they have what they want lined up, but please hurry up and show us you mean business.
We are really hot favourites to go up as champions, so show some balls and get the right players in, we have lost out on a lot of signings, Dillinger mentioned loads, he seems to put more into our scouting than those who get paid for their work and he does a better job, but literally nothing!
Ok Rothwell comes in on loan so who’s next!
I think we need 2 x defenders, an attacking midfielder with pace who has goals in him, an out and out striker, a proper sort of Viduka / Chapman esk, a goal keeper would be nice but I don’t think Meslier will go.
We just have to hope that our custodians get it right and I’m worrying for nothing eh, I mean it’s 2:45am and I’m sat in my checked M&S matching pyjamas set which looks like I’m ready for a golf session, with my orthopaedic slippers on and my tablets laid out on the table ready to take, so what do I really know chaps?
FFS where did it all go wrong! ??.
16 Jul 2024 05:57:51
Alas I'm no insider mate. Only know as much as you guys. Just had a lot more time to watch players now I've knocked boozing on the head (gave up Dec 29th, so 7 months strong pretty much now and feeling great! )
I'd not scrolled down this far so already replied to Melbs post above with what, imo, appears to be current squad list. Honestly though there are a few unknowns atm so some of it a stab in the dark.
16 Jul 2024 06:43:06
Haha Woody nice image of you in your Chequered PJ’s and slippers with your bed side table decked out with meds. I’ve also got my bedside table with a mountain of meds next to me, soaking up the pain from a groin hernia op yesterday only no M&S PJ’s and slippers for me mate.
I don’t think you need to be overly concerned about the commitment of our current owners, I can promise you they will not want to spend another season after this one in the Championship.
The transfer market is a testing time, whether players are being sold or bought not to mention now clubs having to be very careful of the PSR rules.
Personally unless there are any over valued offers for players like Summerville, Gnonto and Rutter, i doubt very much the club will be cashing in.
I can see Glen Kamara on his way out as we have just loaned Rothwell, for whatever reasons of Kamara’s departure I believe we he a more than decent replacement for him. I personally felt our midfield was our Achilles heel last season and I’m hoping that they view Rothwell as a stabilizing dimension to this area.
A new RB signing would be imminent without doubt buy or loan and possibly cover at LB.
I honestly believe that Joseph will deployed more regularly this season as Bamford’s fitness is pretty awful. Unlike some who don’t like Piroe, he still scored 14 goals last season and I can see him improving on that this season but that's up to Farke and his coaching to get the very best out of him.
As we all know winning promotion in the Championship is not a given, it a long hard slog playing against many teams or individual players who usually up their game against us or park the bus. My faith is in this process of our current owners, this is not GFH or Cellinio or for that matter the very naive Radz, I believe it’s a very serious tenureship by the SF49er’s and I fully expect them to get us back very soon to the Premiership and stay there hopefully.
16 Jul 2024 07:58:32
Hope you recover ok. I had the double groin op last year but had to go back as one side didn`t work!
16 Jul 2024 08:11:52
Wasn't the assumption that Gray would've been in midfield this coming season, so Rothwell was his replacement? That's how I understood it. Seemed Farke was going to play him further up the pitch this season as he wanted to build around him.
If that's the case we still need a replacement for Kamara. Even if not I still think we need another body in there.
Re; Piroe, some player just don't fit certain tactics. Major issue which I don't know how you'd coach it out of him is how poor his mobility is. He's slow. When he drops to link up he's too immobile to get back up and involved and when he's leading the line he can't hold up, doesn't link that well and he is a bad presser due to his mobility issues. That's the reason why, if he stays, he only needs a bit part role, as he can score (although still only a 15% conversion rate, which is actually pretty poor) Offers little else outside of that. We need better.
16 Jul 2024 08:13:16
All the best with revovery OP ? agree with rest.
16 Jul 2024 08:55:59
I think he’s not bad in the spaces and can pass the ball, mobility is an issue that Farke has mentioned but in my mind he needs to be behind a number 9 with that speed and mobility as was his position at Swansea with a much higher conversion rate and 20 goal season.
I’m not sure he’ll be good enough for the Premiership but I think if Farke can find a way for him to bang in the goals as he did at Swansea, then he could be a big asset for this season’s promotion push.
You are correct about Gray, who would have taken up that midfield role and is why there is a lot of talk about Skip filling that area as a DM with Gruev or Rothwell as
more attacking midfielders.
16 Jul 2024 10:04:47
Gonna be waiting too long again and miss out on decent players. Last year we waited and waited and ended up with players who have had a lot of stick on her, piroe gruev darlow kamara and some really forgettable loan signings who for one reason or another hardly got a look in, if we are looking at loans or purchases we need an out and out striker and ACM other positions we can cover with what we currently have although Bogle would be a good signing but again taking an age to sort, we are in a new financial year as I understand it so surely we can cover some outlay, I'm sorry but waiting till the last minute and I know there is a while to go yet but how can last minute signings train and fit in with our style we Introduced new players last year and our start didn't exactly set the world on fire.
16 Jul 2024 11:49:14
I’m not sure what buying another striker will change.
We have a lot of goals coming in from our wingers and Piroe did rack up a good number of goals also.
Bamford still does a huge amount on the pitch when he does play, he’s not going to get 20 goals in a season but his contribution should not be underestimated.
The player for me that has to step up to the plate goal wise is Rutter, his miserly 6 goals was not enough last season, but I do believe that will come with maturity and experience.
Let’s not forget most posters on here are screaming for Joseph to be played his contribution which I think he will have more of this season should boost that goal tally, if he is as really good as we think he is?
As for the impatience or frustration to us not completing all our transactions already, what club has?
16 Jul 2024 13:22:28
OP I agree in the main, piroe not many on here want him I actually still do bamford I agree but his injury record is not good and he is on 50 grand a week is he actually worth it as for Joseph I really hope he does do the business but can we risk it that's why we need a proven goalscorer Rutter I completely agree with you and finally what I meant was don't leave all till last minute if a player becomes available go for him like Bogle 7 million I think he would be a good signing but we offer half that never going to get him for 4.
16 Jul 2024 14:45:31
Oldbri i think starting your bidding low is more shrewd way of getting a good deal. Why pay more if you can get it for less.
It’s just business, Leeds have made two offers already and it looks like they want him. I’m sure both clubs will arrive at an agreed value.
16 Jul 2024 14:49:52
Gotta disagree there, OP, about it not changing anything.
It will change our ability to play how we want to play by having a striker who can press from the front (like Bamford) but also be clinical (not like Bamford or Piroe last season)
Too many times last season we lost points after the tide turned in the game because Bamford missed a sitter. Then the week after he'd be injured again so we couldn't play a proper high press as Piroe isn't up to it because he's unathletic and slow.
There's a multitude of problems that can arise again this season keeping those two heavily involved.
We need another CF. I think it's a must or we fall back into the same patterns of last season that saw us go behind in games we were largely dominating, because of a missed chance or because our CF is unable to keep up with play rendering him a passenger.
We want goals from all our attacking players, so its good we already have many of our wingers, etc scoring, but why not even more by adding a quality finisher who can also press from the front. The more the merrier I say. I am massively in the "want a new CF" camp.
16 Jul 2024 14:53:14
In reply to the post about Piroe in the spaces
He can definitely score goals at this level. Agree about him directly behind a 9. He needs to be close to someone to make things easier for him and agree he plays best inside the lines as well as crashing the box. Those are his assets. Just not sure we can make that work with how we play. It's not worked majority of last season. We were forcing him into positions he wasn't comfortable with. But trouble is that will keep happening because of how we play. Farke ain't changing his tactics, and especially for one of the less important players in the team like Piroe.