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18 Jan 2021 14:54:58
Its not just about picking the best players from each team Berm it is also about the overall quality of the squad, including who we can bring in off the bench or cover for injuries.

We have been woeful of late due to not having quality in depth and not having anyone decent to bring in to replace the injured players. We don't even have enough CB's in the squad to cover at the moment which is why Ayling, Philips etc have been playing out of position - this has the knock on impact on the rest of the team as they are not in their preferred positions either.

ignoring the best players from our team and that of others, if a team has an average of £6m per player throughout the squad, that is better than our average of say 3m so overall they have a better squad.

In answer to your question, I would have the following:

West Ham : Rice (play him and Philips if needs be) Benrahma, Masuarku and Seb Haller

Fulham- Mitroivich, Antonee Robinson

West Brom- none (their teams value is one of the worst) or possibly Matheus Pereira or Grady Diangana

Palace- van arnout, zaha and Eze definitely. Like I say its not just the stand out players, I would also take some of the others who are more highly valued than the like for like players in our own team

Brighton - White, Dunk, Tariq Lamptey Lenadro Trossard

Burnley - James Tarkowski, Nick Pope (better than Casilla and arguably Messlier but I would want Messlier to continue his development with regular game time)

Newcastle - Allan Saint-Maximin, DeAndre Yedlin, Ryan Fraser and Dwight Gayle

Shelf utd - lowest valued squad, probably nobody but then that's why they are bottom

Villa - mings grealish, Targett again like for like most positions have a higher value than ours so would be an upgrade but a creator like Grealish, like Zaha for Palace would make a massive difference to us in creating chances and unlocking defences so would be worth their weight in gold

Saints - Ings and Ward-Prowse

Like I say though if you look at our poorer players and compare them like for like ignoring the 'best' playerrs you could definitely make a better team out of players from those teams than the sum of what we have but comparing individuals isn't the way footie works. You have to look at the starting line up and the squad as a whole and we are probably 15th best in the league at best - definitely not top 10 and certainly not above where our league position is.

You could get the best mechanic in the world and I guarantee they couldn't make a Ford Fiesta engine go quicker than a Mercedes in the hands of a poorer mechanic.

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18 Jan 2021 15:14:27
Excellent post Alf 👍.

18 Jan 2021 16:18:22
Alf of course you are right it is not just about picking players.

however you have made my point. Everyone keeps saying we have championship players but we don't we have prem players which is why with a lot of teams. man for man we would stick with our players. why because they are good players.

Pick a championship team and do the same exercsise and very few make the cut because they are championship players. Leeds fans say this because it is a get out of jail card for belisa but the players are not that bad as you just confirmed

it is not how it works I agree but our players are not as bad as some on here have been saying recently. they are not championship players

Love your anagloy of Ford Focus and mercs. the trouble is we have an sports car but our manager is trying to make it perform like an f1 car and it simply is not working

as for bad form of late it is far bigger than that.

brighton played leeds, they have weaker players but bank up in defence. we lost and played badly. this is the same as wigan, Millwall and Ipswich. it is exactly the same thing

when belisa meets a certain problem he can not fix it and after three years I think that is the signs of a awful manager

great coach yes but managers fix problems and belisa simply can not and that is not down to players in any way.

18 Jan 2021 18:38:59
No, that's not what I am saying at all. I'm saying our players for the most part are kit as good as 15 other teams in the division. They weren't even the best team in the championship as individuals but Bielsa got them playing way above their levels and still does. With any other manager I think we would crash and burn.

18 Jan 2021 20:52:49
How you make out that berm on what Alf is saying is beyond me. You must be the only person who actually didn’t actually make sense of what Alf said.

18 Jan 2021 21:01:39
So you would swap our players then?

They are either good or not you would either swap them or you wouldn’t?

I asked who would you swap and you said very few which means they must be better or as good as many other prem teams. that makes them prem players.

18 Jan 2021 22:19:19
love aways days it is very very simple

either our players are prem players or not. man for man

if our players were weak we would by definition swap them for players from other teams man for man

the fact when offered the theoretical option alf only come up with a handful of names from 10 teams must mean our players by definition are not championship players but prem players because when offered the swap for other prem players he didn't take the swap

I agree with this palace, West Ham, Brighton, saint etc a good ten teams don't have that many players man for man that you would swap with our players over the 11 players. therefor our 11 players can't be that bad

many on here moan about lack of sqaud depth. I was on phone to my dad today he is a palace fan. they have real lack of squad depth leeds are not in that bad a place when it comes to the playing roster. yes we are know spurs but we are as good as at least half of the prem

again my logic here is 100% spot on.

18 Jan 2021 22:58:23
Yes I would swap probably 5 or 6 of the starting line up. Maybe 7.

18 Jan 2021 22:59:43
There are 26 players on my list above - how is that very few?

19 Jan 2021 11:23:22
10 teams that’s 110 players 25 is quite a few if we are a championship team plus half the players you picked are number 9s which we don’t have a like for like for nor would mb play

Like for like you mention about ten that is less than 10% . hence making my point for me our players like for like ain’t championship.







 

 

 
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