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21 Oct 2019 16:22:41
Think Alf's post below about what Bielsa is doing with the squad is vert true.
Think Bielsa may have been brought in for one season and has stayed on for a second, as part of a learning curve, to bring and educate this particular brand of football to the club.
Also Bielsa picks what he thinks is the strongest team for every game.
A team he thinks will give the best performance applying the brand of football he wants to play. People on here suggesting we may have more success playing a different player in a certain position are frustrated by results and hoping the would improve .
Eddie is not going to be able to play the next 30 odd games without getting burnt out. Arsenal would not want that and it is not fair on the lad. We need two or three new faces in January.

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21 Oct 2019 18:11:16
Cheers Leeds. Its easy to ASSUME that a player not being picked is going to do better than the ones in the team but what if the reality is much worse? what if we are playing the best 11 every week already that give us the best chance? Easy to say 'play him' or 'pick him' but when they are picked and turn out to be guff watch those that said it slink away to hide under the table.

We ASSUME Eddie will be knocking 3 goals in every game but he is still a kid - what if he had started every game this season and only scored 1 every 4 games? what would that do. I think we have to trust in the man who is paid a fortune to pick the team and tell them what to do.

And hope we get better quality players.

21 Oct 2019 18:39:20
bamford played 22 times last season and he was injured for a fair share of it Klich, Philips Alioski all featured over 40 times
So your point is gone a bit astray really, he is a professional athlete in his 20,s i would put my lot that he could play all season without burn out, he's as fit as an Olympian for crying out loud,
I am not saying he's going to score a load but i am saying he would definitely be able to play without burn out just like the lads above i mentioned did last season.

21 Oct 2019 18:43:37
lets be honest if a rugby player can play, premiership, Heineken,6 nations in a season then a footballer most DEFINITELY can, no comparison whatsoever in stamina, rugby leaves football for dust in that respect.

{Ed001's Note - that is not true, footballers on average cover much more distance.}

21 Oct 2019 19:04:41
So football is just about running and fitness?
No, to be at top of your game all the time takes more than being fit.
Mental strength, small injuries, external factors, opposition tactics, weather and many other aspects can all affect your performance (just as they do all of us while at work) .
Burn out is related to lots of factors. I don't think any of could say we had a single player last season who didn't burn out and have a bad spell.
Hopefully by managing game time better we can reduce some of the above causes.

21 Oct 2019 19:17:27
Canada i will agree to disagree, players are handsomely paid to be at their peak from August to April, If their not then they ain't being true to their employers or fans.

21 Oct 2019 20:30:19
Chris, Chris, Chris. Rugby and “soccer” are two entirely different entities. They cannot be compared, in any way, neither in terms of fitness, or physicality. I’ve coached both, and as primarily a Rugby player, we call it “soccer” because RFU stands for Rugby Football. (Union) . Knees made me play and coach soccer.
But main point, two different fitness levels, different demands, not comparable.

21 Oct 2019 22:24:59
@brightwhite is there anything you haven't done or coached at?
You say there not comparable well i have been involved in weight lifting for best part of 24 years now and i know a lot about fitness
Biologically we have not got. seperate compartments in our bodies for different sports, the beep test will tell you that, if your levels of fitness are at a professional athletes then your chosen sport should be seeing a peak you, be it rugby, football, whatever

My reply this evening was based on a post saying a professional athlete could not be expected to last more than 30 games, that's rubbish.

21 Oct 2019 23:36:14
What has being paid got to do with anything Chris?
I get paid just as you no doubt but aren't always at my best.
Some days I try very hard but don't actually achieve too much. Others days I'm on form and do great things.
That's how the world works. If you don't get that you must be perfect!

22 Oct 2019 07:38:53
@canada white what has getting paid got to do with anything?
In case you forgot which i presume you haven't paddy and kiko are rumoured to be on £30K a week, not a YEAR a week, now if you want to be as flippant a multi millionaire about that weekly wage, then that's your choice but i would imagine a hell of a lot of people would deem that sort of money crazy, and would deem that to be in reciept of that you need to be at your absolute best all the time, to BEGIN to try and justify such a huge wage .
But that's just my view as a ordinary joe.

22 Oct 2019 11:05:04
Try reading people's posts Chris.
Money is irrelevant to how hard they should try. It should always be 100%.
Money has nothing to do with how fit they are (all are full time professionals so should be at their peak) .
What is being disputed is burn out. They can give 100% be the fittest guy on the planet but still perform badly.
A bit your your posts haha, you try hard and give it a good shot but often fall short (ffs take it as a joke) .

22 Oct 2019 11:15:02
Oh okay then canada, seeing as your the judge + jury here i will bow to your far superior intelligence than mine and your deciphering of my posts, your right i was giving it my best shot .
But now that i have been sussed by your good self i will leave it at that, because at times its widest to just stop debating if the opposition is let's just say ( sub standard ) . Good luck.

22 Oct 2019 13:30:04
As expected!
Ok for you to 'know better' but anyone disagrees and they are being judge and jury.
Happy to disagree and will always point out when I think you (or anyone) is wrong. That's how it works in a fair society.
We can disagree all day long and still want the same thing!

22 Oct 2019 14:35:23
Indeed. The word 'soccer' comes as a shortening of 'Association' to 'soc' as in Association Football.

22 Oct 2019 15:28:38
I’ve also coached badminton Chris, albeit without qualifications at that sport.

22 Oct 2019 15:33:28
I however, have never been a pimp or a sex Coach.

22 Oct 2019 16:53:08
the irony, canada you speak of me ( knowing better ) but it was clear from your posts that YOU knew better. All okay for you to pick holes in my posts and patronise me in 1 but when its given back then i am the childish one . Just highlighting your hypocrisy and I will leave it at that!

22 Oct 2019 18:19:16
No you won't leave it at that as you have already failed at that having said that in your previous post.
I have never said I know better I have said I disagree with you. Yes I think you are wrong, but have myself been wrong on many occasions and am happy to have someone explain why.
I have told you why I think you are wrong, you can take it or leave it.
Answer these (closed) questions please.

1) do you agree all players should give 100% every game?
2) do you agree that even if giving 100% players can be less effective in one game than another?
3) do you believe that external factors (eg marital stress, other teams tactics) can affect a players performance on any given day?

Maybe this will help clarify our differences.



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