Leeds Banter 2

11 Jun 2026 20:46:40
Got an inkling these hydration breaks are really for the American broadcasters to sell more advertisement slots?

12 Jun 2026 00:16:03
Wonder if they are only if temp above a certain value?
Toronto could still be hot enough (don't worry, I'll keep cool with beer at next Wednesday's game) , but Vancouver is usually cooler so we'll see at the games there if they have them.

12 Jun 2026 02:26:51
They are all games regardless of temp.

12 Jun 2026 02:36:01
At least it lets teams have a timeout without using bogus injured goalkeeper scam.

11 Jun 2026 15:43:37.
As a complete aside to the World Cup, the unspeakable behaviour of David Sullivan at West Ham!

Being banned from attending your own club's women's matches!

And the complicit nature of West Ham officials/management who didn't make this public knowledge!

Then there's Karen Braddy who hopefully will get her comeuppance when all of this comes out.

If she knew about it, why didn't she say something, and if she didn't know then a plea of ignorance is not acceptable. You're a director of the club for Christ's sake.

What a thoroughly nasty, vile episode this is rapidly becoming.

11 Jun 2026 17:21:47
He has been banned from attending WHU Women's and youth team games since 2023. Brady must have known that. She resigned in April, so did she have an inkling these allegations were coming out?

11 Jun 2026 19:52:23
Reminds me a little of Al Fayed's Fulham and what went on there. I've no idea the specificity of what's going on with Sullivan, but the parallels are obvious, sadly.

12 Jun 2026 11:48:51
Is anyone surprised by all this Sullivan stuff?
A massive porn baron in the 80s and 90s, he was always a shady character. Strange how it is all coming out in the media now, forty years later? Well, not that strange, really, as potential historical crimes are all the rage.

11 Jun 2026 12:35:48
I see Kieran McKenna is a gonner.

Rob Andrews sacked by Wolves.

Rob Andrews to be appointed Ipswich Manager?

11 Jun 2026 13:08:57
Gonner Ani, it's a sad dayyy for tractor lurvers. 😆

But potentially good news for LUFC.. both Hull and Ipswich have very tough seasons ahead, perhaps.. hopefully Frankie's Coventry too.

11 Jun 2026 14:36:18
Smart man, mck.
It's as good as it gets.
Lamps, not the smarts, thankfully.

11 Jun 2026 08:32:53
2 goals from BA! Galactico?

11 Jun 2026 09:31:39
Seriously!

Thanks, Brendan. It is my birthday today, but I never thought I would get something as rare as this. 🥳

11 Jun 2026 09:37:54
Where and when? Am I missing something, or just plain stupid, or both lol.

11 Jun 2026 10:03:34
Well done to BA.

11 Jun 2026 10:19:52
Like Aus said, where & when?

11 Jun 2026 13:06:20
Happy birthday Class.

11 Jun 2026 15:16:47
Have a great day, Class!

11 Jun 2026 15:42:02
Cheers, fellas. Year of birth matches my age today, 63 years young!

11 Jun 2026 15:43:42
All the best, Class!

11 Jun 2026 16:38:48
Cheers, Brighty.

11 Jun 2026 19:59:24
Had us going there, Brighty. Have a good one.
I wish I could match my birth year to my age. I'd quite like to be 49 again.

11 Jun 2026 05:02:37
Ok. World Cup prediction time chaps before a ball is kicked. I haven't got a lot of faith in it being too entertaining but you never know. Interesting to see the odds. Here are by predictions.
England to lose in quarter final.
Top 4
Spain
France
Mexico
Belgium
Top scorer Yamal.

11 Jun 2026 07:40:42
France
Spain
Brazil
Argentina

England shock defeat in last 16 - hope I'm wrong, but not getting the vibes at the moment.

11 Jun 2026 07:53:23
Top scorer, Cleggy?

11 Jun 2026 08:02:42
Backing from me is usually the kiss of death, but hers goes.
Top 4:
Spain
France
Argentina
England

Top scorer:
Dembele.

11 Jun 2026 08:04:34
Top 4
France
Spain
Brazil
Argentina

Top scorer
Doue (France) .

11 Jun 2026 08:06:51
England's decline, Dave.

11 Jun 2026 09:12:23
Hope I'm wrong, Aus, but I can't see it for England, especially in a hotter climate.

11 Jun 2026 09:26:21
Top 4
Portugal
France
Spain
England

Top scorer: Harry Kane.
Dark horses: Norway

England to lose on pens in the semi-finals.

11 Jun 2026 10:06:06
Spain
Brazil
France
Hopefully England (but they may depart in QF) .

Dark horses: Japan.

11 Jun 2026 11:46:22
A bit predictable from me:

Argentina
France
Spain
Brazil

Dark horses: Uruguay (love to see MB do well)
and Norway.

England prediction: QF, hopefully better.

11 Jun 2026 12:21:25
For me:

Spain
France
Morocco
Argentina

Top Scorer: Yamal.

I think England will be undone at altitude v Mexico - Hope I am wrong, though if we get past this match, anything is possible!

11 Jun 2026 15:36:33
Sorry Aus, missed the top scorer bit -
Mbappe.

11 Jun 2026 15:37:20
Can't see past France.
France
England
Spain
Ecuador

Kane top scorer.
Ecuador, obviously my dark horse.

10 Jun 2026
New image uploaded to the
Leeds Player Sightings page entitled, Hope not!

Click picture for larger image

10 Jun 2026 19:48:41
Hope not fgs!

That's a tea towel!

10 Jun 2026 19:59:13
Reminds of that early 80's one! I like it.

10 Jun 2026 20:05:14
Saw this a few weeks back and thought it was a wind up.
Looks like shite on images, but maybe in the flesh?

10 Jun 2026 20:11:58
Brighty, the striped RFW sponsored 1981/82 kit was also a tea towel. 🤣

But, in all seriousness, it was the kit Leeds United got relegated in 1982. It defo wasnt inspiring to those players.

10 Jun 2026 20:13:25
Corkey, 😆 .. It's worse even than that.

11 Jun 2026 00:18:50
Bloody awful.

11 Jun 2026 07:16:04
If a player needs to be inspired by the design of the shirt, they shouldn't be wearing anything with our badge on it!

11 Jun 2026 10:12:51
Don Revie changed Leeds United shirts to the pristine all white Real Madrid shirts for their psychological winning benefits.

Not that tea towel design above, Brighty.

Likewise, Leeds generally played awful in that awful design, multicoloured 3rd kit monstrosity last season.

Did not win any EPL match in it and got thrashed in it.

Very naive of you, Bright, to believe kit design and colours should have no relevance to players winning psyche.

{Ed001's Note - I have never known a player who gave a toss about the kit design.}

11 Jun 2026 11:51:07
I agree with Ed, players not bothered. Seems I am on my own here, but I quite like the new home shirt. Prefer the bulls to be blue though. I await the pile on! 🤣

11 Jun 2026 12:03:55
Love it ;) .

11 Jun 2026 12:23:13
I have never seen a post match interview where the Manager said it was the terrible kit that did it! [Though Slot probably would have, given time!]

11 Jun 2026 12:32:37
150% super sure Revie, Billy, and Leeds legends would defo baulk at playing in that garish multi-coloured, hideous, design monstrosity of a Leeds United 3rd kit of last season.

Whether or not modern players think they don't give a toss is one thing.

But plenty of academic and sports science research indicates strongly that colour of shirt in particular, and also design, makes a conscious and subconscious difference to players, coaches, fans and referees!

Be interesting to know from super LUFC legend Eddie Gray which design of Leeds United shirt Eddie Gray preferred.any of the Leeds United iconic all white pristine Leeds United shirts of the 1960s and 1970s.



.or the awful pinstripe tea towel design, non pristine, non all white 1981/82 relegation shirt?

Eddie played in all of them.

11 Jun 2026 12:37:04
I remember Ferguson blaming Man U 2nd/3rd kit for a defeat at Southampton. He said the kit made the players camouflage into the crowd, so they couldn't see each other clearly across the pitch.

11 Jun 2026 15:50:15
That's a fair one tho, Feath.
And, it's a sad indictment of some of the Revie greats, if you think they gave a flying stuff at a rolling donut what the shirt looked like! The same will apply this season, and it won't have the slightest bearing on performances or league position, in the same way it wasn't relevant in the early 80's. Beggars belief!

11 Jun 2026 16:07:17
Agree to disagree on this one, Bright, no problemo.

But I'll take the great Don and the sports psychologists' studies over your opinion, Brighty, on this one every day of the year.

And, likely, very few, if any, of the current team/squad genuinely liked the kids' pantomime 3rd kit last season, and they sure as hell played absolute garbage in it.

11 Jun 2026 17:03:01
Are you saying Revie used Sports Psychologists before they existed?
Either way, think what you want. BS twoddle is still just that.

11 Jun 2026 17:22:00
Brighty you evidently know little about Revie the player and manager

No problem

11 Jun 2026 17:56:50
Your opinion, Bright, we don't agree, no problem.

11 Jun 2026 18:44:07
I think the Club meant so much to Revie's boys and the team spirit he created. Different times to now, money didn't seem as important. Regarding the actual kit, they played in red on occasions or wore red socks, so maybe it was LUFC that mattered more than the actual kit to them.

12 Jun 2026 07:16:24
Red 3rd kit incoming. The players will go on strike then?!

12 Jun 2026 07:17:29
Probably as much as you, Baz, given it's all things you can read. Or were you his best mate?

12 Jun 2026 08:41:49
I will buy you some for Christmas, Brighty ..Good reads 📚..broaden your knowledge.

12 Jun 2026 13:23:12
I'll get you a massive wooden spoon for your turd stirring Baz, because you need a much bigger one than you're trying to use right now!

12 Jun 2026 15:44:37
Silver spoons for Baz.

10 Jun 2026 18:29:06
Before the World Cup starts tomorrow, name your best ever Leeds United World Cup X1.

Must be 442 or 433.

Must have been a Leeds player when they appeared at the World Cup - you have to state the year they appeared. For example, you can't name someone who was brilliant at a WC then signed for Leeds afterwards (Roque Junior in 1994 springs to mind - not that anyone in their right mind would name Roque Junior but you get the idea.)

Good luck guys.

:)

10 Jun 2026 18:56:40
For clarification, went to the WC or played at a WC?
Norman Hunter would be the example, Cleggy.

10 Jun 2026 19:05:53
Great question but way too much like hard work for me.

10 Jun 2026 19:18:15
Harvey 1974
Kelly 1994
Charlton 1966
Hunter 1996 (Radebe 1998 if not eligible)
Harte 2002
Bremner 1974
Adams 2022
Lorimer 1974
Aaronson 2022
Clarke 1970
Hasselbaink 1998.

10 Jun 2026 19:35:52
You can have went as well as played. Remember, we are trying to find those who excelled at a WC in a Leeds shirt. Sorry for any confusion.

10 Jun 2026 19:38:51
I've gone for:

Harvey 74

Mills 02
Cooper 70
Charlton 66
Radebe 02

Hunter 70 (played in midfield when he came on)
Bremner 74
Lorimer 74

Clarke 70
Charles 58
Jordan 74.

10 Jun 2026 20:01:29
Good question, Cleggy. Yours is the best selection (so far) .

I quite like Canada's choices, maybe not so much Adams and BA. Ideally, supreme talents Strach and Gsry Mac would be in the mix.

But, the Scottish coach Andy Roxburgh made a right mess of his disastrous WC 1990 final squad selections.

10 Jun 2026 20:32:34
Ok, here goes, but I ain't putting down the years.
Harvey
Kelly
Cooper
Big Jack
Hunter
Bremner
Frank Gray
Ferdinand
Jimmy
Clarke
Charles.

10 Jun 2026 20:40:00
Jeez, Cleggy, follow your own rules ffs haha.
Wasn't Charles a Juventus player in 1958?

10 Jun 2026 21:43:06
Ooh, you've got me there, Canada. I'll have to look that one up.

It's such a shame that players such as Eddie Gray 74 (injury) , Arthur Graham 78 (amazingly not selected) , Reaney 70 (injured) , Madeley 70 (booked a family holiday after not making the original selection) never got to go, plus the likes of McQueen not getting a game in 74, Currie 78 when England failed to qualify, and Giles (before the Republic became a force) .



Hopefully the four guys we've got at this year's event will all have decent tournaments.

10 Jun 2026 21:47:10
My apologies, Canada, you're quite right. He left to go to Juventus in the summer of 57. For some reason, I got in my mind it was 58 - my bad!!

10 Jun 2026 21:47:23
My god, Baz, how did I miss Stachan and Mac, embarrassed. 😳

10 Jun 2026 21:53:02
Hmm, Baz, I missed them because they didn't play in a WC when Leeds players did. Mac didn't even play in one, apparently.

10 Jun 2026 22:48:38
Yes Canada, as I stated above, coach Andy Roxburgh and Scotland had a disastrous WC finals in 1990.

Not even selecting an in the form of his life Strachan, and bench-warming McAllister.. he got what he deserved.. nowt.

11 Jun 2026 01:56:32
Here's my selection, Cleggy:
Nigel Martyn 1998/2002
Danny Mills 2002
Jack Charlton 1966/1970
Lucas Radebe 1998/2002
Tony Dorigo 1990
Gordon Strachan 1982/1986
Billy Bremner 1974
Norman Hunter 1966/1970
Peter Lorimer 1974
Alan Clarke 1970
Joe Jordan 1974

Like you, John Charles was one of the first names on my team sheet til I realised he'd left us by 58.

In 1958, Charles was injured in the final group stage match and missed the rest of the tournament, although Wales still qualified for the knockout stage.

Wales were eventually knocked out in the quarter final by Brazil thanks to a goal from some guy called Pele, and Brazil went on to win the World Cup. The Welsh manager later said "With John Charles in the side we might have won." What a player that man was.

11 Jun 2026 10:13:55
Interesting post, JR, re 1958 WC and JC.

11 Jun 2026 11:38:12
Under the rules at the time, at the end of the group stage, Wales and Hungary were dead level and had to play an extra playoff match. Hungary knew that JC was the biggest threat to them and targeted him heavily, and as a result he was injured and had to withdraw.

Despite the Hungarian thuggery, Wales still won, but the injury prevented JC from playing in the subsequent quarter final against Brazil. Would they have won if he'd played? Who knows, but a match with him on one side and Pele on the other would have been a mouthwatering event.

11 Jun 2026 11:54:28
A good team there, Jr. I think we could put two strong sides out.

10 Jun 2026 16:48:54
Interesting that Burnley have been awarded £35m from Everton PSR breaches adversely affecting their Premier League status. Everton naturally appealing, but that's huge. I believe we reached a settlement with Everton, according to the same BBC article. However, because Burnley were relegated and we weren't, the financial losses for us are significantly lighter.

10 Jun 2026 17:15:12
Any guesstimate of figure Leeds United received.. £ 5 million? More?

10 Jun 2026 18:56:42
£1,500, 000 apparently from other sources.. Not a lot.

10 Jun 2026 19:41:01
That could open up citeh to a number of claims if/when they are charged for their 115 financial irregularities. Millions and millions in potential fines.

10 Jun 2026 20:39:10
Yeah, Baz, I think 1 - 1.5m is a fair estimate. Given we didn't go down, it's more relevant to look at the funding between league positions (approx 2m) as the right ball park. Given we settled, it's like 1m - 1
5m.

10 Jun 2026 21:28:31
Yep entirely logical snd correct reasoning, Ealing.

11 Jun 2026 11:55:48
Reports say we did an undisclosed agreement with Everton last September.

10 Jun 2026 13:39:03
Farke and the club have not ruled out reintegrating Rama for next season. There were concerns at the end of the promotion season re attitude (training and following instruction) , but if he can show improvement in pre season, he has the chance to stay.

10 Jun 2026 14:36:44
Sensible.

10 Jun 2026 14:39:02
Hope so. Big impact player. Keep him.

10 Jun 2026 16:49:39
Rumours from Valencia suggest Corberan also had probs with him, too. A good impact player, as Aus says, but we can well do without a player with an attitude problem disrupting a harmonious squad.

10 Jun 2026 16:58:46
JR16, I fully agree.

10 Jun 2026 17:30:53
Hold on, fellas.

Facts are:

Corboran played Largie 27 times, scoring 6 goals, and Largie contributed well to Valencia having a very good season.

And Farkey played Largie 29 times, scoring 6 goals, with Leeds finishing champions on a record-breaking 100 points.

So both managers trusted Largie with a large number of games.



And Leeds players seemed to get on well with Largie; harmony, certainly, not disharmony.

Hopefully, Largie can "track back" more in pre-season games this seez to satisfy the ever-cautious Farkey, as Largie is a talented attacking player one Leeds squad/team could quite well do with.

11 Jun 2026 09:20:34
Totally agree, Baz. I think there's an agenda out there that Largie has an attitude, etc.

He's a decent player & as a back up option to Okafor, we need him. He's proved he has an eye for goal, and an assist. He has pace too.

Replacing him would cost more than the reported £10 we want for him. It's a no brainer to keep him.

He also does appear to be popular with team mates.

I have seen lots of posts and official club stuff of him with other players, and he always looks popular and like he fits in.

I think there's a false narrative where Largie is concerned because he likes a bit of bling & is a little flashy.

11 Jun 2026 11:57:12
Rama would offer more from the bench than some of this season's incumbents.

11 Jun 2026 12:36:42
100% agree, Dave and LUFCfeath.