18 Apr 2026 07:19:07
Following on from below post. Who does not think that amps and dcl told Farke to make changes? 100% they did.
18 Apr 2026 10:34:51
Give it Aus, don't think you're going to convince many on that, apart from the Farke haters. 😉
18 Apr 2026 11:03:20
With respect, Aus, not me. Do touchline discussions take place between the coach and players? Of course they do, every match, but the notion that those routine interchanges are the players giving orders, I just don't buy it. For me, 100% they did not.
18 Apr 2026 13:34:02
100% none of us know what has transpired. Even if the players did, credit to Farke for listening; if they didn't, then credit to Farke for changing his strategy.
18 Apr 2026 13:56:16
Farkey may listen to players' opinions.
But, that's it. He calls the shots amongst them.
..But, imo, he defo adhered to the LUFC owners' demand to drop his pet fave Meslier last season.
He was costing us a barrel load of points, possible automatic promotion and EPL millions!
18 Apr 2026 14:13:19
What Class said. Does it really matter anyway, Aus? It's like asking, did John Aspinall "off" Lord Lucan for unpaid gambling debts and feed him to his big cats, or did he arrange for him to leg it. Either way, he disappeared. Just be happy. It was a positive point in our season. 😁
18 Apr 2026 04:55:21
Devon looking at ao to replace cass. Have to upwards of 45 I reckon. Shame if he goes to the dark side.
18 Apr 2026 11:16:00
Think MU's ambitions are more for Anderson or Wharton or Tonali. We may get offers for AO from others tho, and maybe also for Gabby, Bijol, Stach, Amps, Bogle, Okafor etc etc, all of which should be forcefully pushed back.
On the other hand, we should tell Fiorentina they can have JH on a free, just to get him off our books, same for Wober and Kristensen, wherever they are.
17 Apr 2026 15:38:54
OK, prompted by Aus lol, the DF should we shouldn't we elephant in the room, here is my take for what its worth. We can talk about an upgrade, an improvement, a big name but that's pure speculation because we just don't know how anyone would perform at Leeds, in this situaton, in one of the toughest gigs in English football! So, look at his record, which is fact and I believe stands up against any manager's performance. 3 years. In the Champo, year 1 a play off final, year 2 a title. In a beast of a toxic league. It took us 16 years to get back to the prem.
It took DF 2 seasons. Year 3. We are gonna survive. Something 6 teams in 2 years didn't. It has been decades since we got to an FA Cup semi final, it has taken DF 3 years. It has been decades since we beat Man U at OT in the league. DF has done it in his first season in direct competition. Now that to me stacks up against any managerial record. Who do we suggest could better that and if we jettison him all the good work, all the momentum will be lost. For me he has to be given the opportunity to carry on building. But that's just me 😂.
17 Apr 2026 15:58:34
I totally agree, Vid, if we stay up, which is looking more and more like it, given all the circumstances DF has had to deal with, he most definitely has credit in the bank, and it would be nothing less than madness to sack him in the summer.
The likes of Glasner and Iraola will not come to Leeds, it's less than a sideways move for them, and you just cannot see it happening.
For me, Farke is the best candidate and should be the obvious one in my mind.
That's not a sentimental point of view either.
17 Apr 2026 16:08:34
I have been at times a pretty staunch critic of Farkey, especially in the botched 23/24 season run in.
However, recently.
- The thrill of a Leeds United Wembley Semi Final vs the auld enemy Chelski.
# operationpayback1970
- A most gratifyingly entertaining, most memorable win at Man U.
- And, with hopefully the now increasing likelihood that Leeds United stay up.
.These have all softened my stance towards Farkey.
Bottom line, imo, I am 100% sure our owners will continue with Farkey as Leeds United manager next season.
.probably rightly so.
. because much better manager/coach upgrades such as Ireola aren't coming to our club at this moment in time.
17 Apr 2026 16:13:29
Many good points there, Vid, even though you have previously sat on the other side of the fence. It would be very Leedsy for us to slip up against Wolves, in which case the multiple platitudes above will age very quickly.
There's time for a victory parade, and it should rightly be grand and expansive when we are mathematically safe, but let's get there first before claiming we have the second coming among us.
17 Apr 2026 16:33:40
Agree, Vid, could not have put it more succinctly.
I'm not averse to giving DF his P45 if and/or when the need arises, but we've certainly not reached that juncture yet. As OP points out, if we sacked Farke, where is the upgrade we'd be looking for coming from? Up to now, I've not bothered to comment on the periodic calls for DF's dismissal because the time was never right.
Look at the mess we got into looking for a successor to Bielsa, and the mess Spuds and Forest are in this season following repeated changes of manager. At the end of this season, we either stay up or go back down. Stay up, and DF deserves the chance to take us to the next level. Go down, and maybe he should go. If you want my opinion, ask me then.
17 Apr 2026 16:34:45
Well, that's my point, Baz, how do you know much better upgrades, such as Ireola, etc., would be much better upgrades? There is no proof! All we can go on is what we know, everything else is a guess! Look at what's happened this season to others.
DF could well be the best option. How many Spuds fans wanted Poch back after wanting him gone? Be very careful what you wish for, instead of realising, actually, this could be it.
17 Apr 2026 16:47:08
A lot of the negatives around DF were based on his Norwich stints, but, in fairness, he had no money to spend and had his best players sold from under him, giving him little to no chance.
At Leeds he's had some backing and appears to have done enough.
I see no reason not to back him again and see how next season starts.
17 Apr 2026 17:15:15
You're absolutely right, Canada, and I've always thought his history with Norwich is like a poisoned chalice that stays with him.
He may think now that he shouldn't have stayed with Norwich when relegated, but maybe they made broken promises about buying new players if he got them up again?
It's all history now, but I think he is someone who is determined to make sure he can keep a team in the Premiership, and who knows, maybe even more than that?
17 Apr 2026 18:05:57
What Class said.
I still believe Leeds as a club should always be looking to improve, and that includes the coach. The season is far from over, however, I'm not one who believes finishing 17th is a success, even in our first season back up. 15th would be acceptable, and 15th with an FA Cup win, well, happy days.
17 Apr 2026 20:08:14
It's not just you, Vid. I, along with many others, am 100% behind Daniel Farke. Just because he is not a big name now doesn't mean he won't be!
MOT.
18 Apr 2026 00:33:05
My take on this is take what we can learn from our previous experiences and observations from other teams.
1. We have a united group who whilst lacking in a bit of flair and quality at times, make up for it by being a solid, competitive team, and they're working for each other.
2. By design or accident we have a formation that seems to yield workmanlike results - no slight, its effective, we get the odd exciting game. The players understand what they're being asked to do and they have the quality to execute it often enough effectively for us to be competitive.
3. Teams that get too big for their boots get their comeuppance more often than not. Think Everton when they were big-spending, throwing money everywhere. Big name signings and managers didn't work largely. Current day Spurs too. Everton moaned that Allardyce was boring when he led them to the top half. Next season they survive on the last day by the skin of their teeth.
4. Teams that quietly get things right don't shout about it. They don't demand that they get noticed. They simply get noticed. Think Brentford progression and Brighton the last decade. Bournemouth quite recently too. Brentford and Brighton never sweat, Toney goes? we can handle it. Wissa/Mbuemo. A year later who are they?
5. Teams that try and change too much too quickly risk losing that chemistry. Farke's almost pragmatic football to free-flowing Ange? Not saying get Ange in just an example.
Farke has strengths and flaws. His handling of the first summer shouldn't be forgotten when those nonsense contracts happened. He changed the formation and is reaping the rewards. He maybe isn't the most charismatic. But his football gets results, some eye-catching even if the football largely isn't. United 1H, Liverpool, and Chelsea excepted. The players are playing for each other AND him. Noticeably, when Farke doesn't seem to rate a player, (Ramazani, Buononotte) the players respect him enough to buy into that. He demonstrated his strengh with Gnonto. You'll return but on MY terms, no one elses.
That seems to count for a lot. If we stay up, you add 15% more quality (probably wide and at no.10) , and 15% more depth (LB, 9) . You could probably do half of that of that from offloading Meslier (wage-saving only, not insignificant) , Byram, (wage only, fairly insignificant) , probably Ramazani, Harrison, James, Piroe. We'd be very well set up to build on hopefully staying up this year. To be clear, I would take staying up again next year. Under Bielsa I think we got too carried away with 9th the first year. It's a three-year plan to realistically even think of mid table, with work still to do even this year.
18 Apr 2026 04:05:07
For what it's worth, here's my ten bobs worth.
Last time we got relegated, Farke was up against it. Players disappearing from the club as fast as they could, but even then he got us to a play off final. After that the owners sold a lot of quality players. Farke had to deal with that and got us up. This season we have not been the biggest spenders and we reach a semi final and hopefully stay up.
Now full credit to Daniel Farke for that. I honestly think that the Yankee owners have not made it easy for him.
So I will only believe in them when they have actually finished rebuilding/expanding Elland Road.
Can you imagine what he could do if he had Liverpool's money or even a Man City style budget this season.
Win, lose or draw, we are entertaining the Premier League.
MOT.
18 Apr 2026 07:16:31
Depends if you want to tread water or improve.
Nobody is saying we shouldn't upgrade the players.
Nobody knows if those players will work out. Same as the manager. Let's just keep the same team and manager, then.
Show no ambition. That will keep you all happy.
Fake will have us in another relegation battle next season if he stays. You boys will like that. I won't.
18 Apr 2026 08:02:48
Of course we should show ambition. Some of last season's new players were real quality additions (Gudmundsson, Bijol, Stach) , some less so (Perri, Bornauw) , so there are still positions needing improvement. But we still have to "cut our coat according to our cloth" and operate within the spending rules whether we like them or not. There's still expensive dead wood to be removed (Wober, Harrison) . We all said at the start of this season that 17th or better would be OK and it looks like we may achieve that, and look to start moving up next term to more like mid table.
Is DF the right person to steer us in that direction? Only time will tell, but I've not yet seen any realistic alternative names being suggested. Looking at the managerial merry go rounds some other clubs have ridden, I don't want us to follow that path either. Slow and steady is my preference, and that looks like the current plan, so I say stick with it for now and see how we go before making panic changes that could end up worse rather than better.
18 Apr 2026 09:55:21
Franks worked out well for Spurs, so-called big name doing the business at a lesser club in Brentford.
17 Apr 2026 11:43:24
Not a fan of the Daily Fail but there is a good article in it today entitled how Leeds are winning the relegation battle, worth a read, puts a good perspective on the players, DF, recruitment and the 49ers, saw it headlined on the back page when putting the papers out at work. 😆
17 Apr 2026 13:14:51
You in admin vid? X
Is it online? Or you got a link.
My take on winning relegation battle is bottom 2 are rubbish and others changed their manager too often. 😂😂😂
17 Apr 2026 13:26:11
No, Aus, the Co Op lol. Shows what an asset Amps is for us if correct!
17 Apr 2026 13:39:12
You can get it online but it's behind a paywall. Really interesting article though, and the Fail have the most authentic links to our actual ownership group.
17 Apr 2026 14:17:10
Dunno if you would like it, Aus. Kinda suggests there is a lot more to DF, Amps, our recruitment and the 9ers than you believe there to be. 😆😅😘
17 Apr 2026 14:23:57
What, like players managing the manager, Vid? Pretty sure most think that, mate. And you. Cmon. What do your eyes tell you? He is a puppet.
17 Apr 2026 14:37:25
Lol, Aus, you minx. We all see the same thing, its how you interpret what you see. A puppet? I very much doubt a puppet would have the respect he has from his peers in the game and his players, who quite clearly do respect and play for him.
The whole mentality within the club is nurtured by him, and that certainly aint being a puppet, its being a leader.
17 Apr 2026 16:41:29
Not sure how many people think the players are managing the manager, as you suggest, Aus, but I'm certainly not one of them. Do "most" agree with you or with me? Maybe we should have a vote.
17 Apr 2026 17:40:42
100% with you on that, JR!
17 Apr 2026 20:11:14
And me, JR!
18 Apr 2026 07:09:17
Only you Aus and one or two others on this forum think that that the players are managing the manager.
It is the most absurd assumption that I've probably ever heard related to football and can only be born out of personal agenda fulfillment.
