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04 Aug 2021 22:30:29
So… you think the current performances against Betis and Ajax were points for concern.

Think on this.
1. Targets are going to look at this and say “challenging for Europe? You’re having a laff”… amd then go and sign for Leicester or a London team or some such.
2. If any of the following. Duos go out injured, we have premier league quality holes opening up and down the pitch.

Dallas and Firpo
Dallas and Klich
Dallas and Ayling (not buying baby shack yet)
Raphinha or Harrison or both
Rodrigo or Bamford or both
KP one man army (sorry Robin, you ain’t there yet)
Llorente and Struijk (the amount Coops has shown preseason says his minutes will be numbered)

I know I know… don't panic.

But… We are underperforming and are two to three players short a robustly competitive deck.

Asenscio… get him in.
A versatile LB cover for Firpo… get him in (come back Alioski)
A “bag ‘em at all cost striker… get him in!

We want Europe. The club needs Europe. Most we got right now is a European package tour to toremelinos with the lads golf clubs.

TorontoWhite

1.) 05 Aug 2021 01:10:03
depressingly accurate post Toronto

you could also add the following :

a very good CAM Pablo type . get him in

a very good Director of Football ( sorry Victor) . get him in

a much better contract offer from Leeds United that Alioski more than fully deserved.


2.) 06 Aug 2021 20:12:52
Friendly results mean nothing
Top 10 again is an acceptable position,


 

 

27 Oct 2020 02:28:10
Competitive with Liverpool and Man City.

Took down the only 100% team.

Talent coming though.

If we bear Leicester. Dare we say it. an outside chance of European football next season.

Can we wrap Bielsa up in cotton wool and rest him in a hyperbaric chamber smothered in Royal jelly every night please.

TorontoWhite

1.) 28 Oct 2020 03:11:54
At the beginning of the season I went through all the games and guessed at an optimistic (or so it seemed at the time) 44 pts. After our start, everyone's signings and injuries, I think (a slightly pessimistic) 49 will be pretty close. As a result I think Europe might be a little too far, historically that would put us 11th-13th ish. That said first hurdle is 36 pts, drop that relegation threat then anything else is gravy. Hope the squad prove me wrong but I'm ok with a first year to establish followed by a second year attack on the top half.


2.) 28 Oct 2020 05:44:51
Gummie You underestimate our club, you underestimate her greatly. After the start made, I can see us finishing the season in the low 70 point region.


3.) 28 Oct 2020 13:24:59
70+ would almost certainly put us in 3rd, we are not finishing that high in our first season back bud. As i said 49 might be slightly pessimistic but we will have some rough patches, as we did last season, and some of the teams towards the bottom will park the bus and cost us points. 49 pts would constitute a fantastic season and a great place to kick on from. We are currently only 1pt better than I had us so far tbf George but I'm happy to be proved wrong.


4.) 28 Oct 2020 14:38:38
Gummie If Bielsa can finally sort out strategy against the physical types and canny Wolves type (evidence shows he is improving there) then 70/ 71 points is achievable in George opinion. Last year's table would have us finishing 3rd but given the compressed nature of the table at this stage for this season, such a points tally might see us finishing 5th. I fancy us for a 5th place finish. We can hurt teams for real but yes Scousers Citeh and Spurs are currently ahead of us.


5.) 29 Oct 2020 07:55:21
70 points is more per game than we’re currently on, so I can’t see it. That would be 63-64.

I think we’ll have a better idea after the next couple of games, as whilst we’ve started well and the Villa win was impressive, we’ve so far beaten the bottom 2 and the team that escaped relegation by 1 point (albeit on form this season) .


6.) 31 Oct 2020 07:15:07
at this point in the season I have no idea at all where we will end up. We've had some god results but things can change quickly in football and the teams we thought were strong may end up not being so much. We will have a better idea around Christmas so keeping my powder story until then. From what I've seen I think we have enough to stay up, but after that genuinely haven't got a scooby.


7.) 05 Nov 2020 06:29:40
wouldn't the cotton wool stick to the jelly?


 

 

22 Feb 2020 06:10:22
If we can open up a four point lead today with a Reading win, reckon we’d need just 24 points off the last 12 games for instant promotion.

Minimum might be 21 (7 wins off 12 games with one being the Fulham game. ) but that would be cutting it very fine requiring Fulham, Forest and Brentford not to otherwise go on a tear at end of season.

Result today and it’s happening, Lads!

Come on you Whites! MOT.

TW.

TorontoWhite

1.) 22 Feb 2020 07:59:32
Calm down calm down Toronto, one game at a time.


 

 

 

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16 Jun 2022 17:28:26
All too silent on Left back options.
All too quiet on 15-20 goal striker options
Likely loss of KP and Raph
Long term to match fit or even recovery for Stuey D and Bill.
Even if we get three more players in, there’s the flip side risk of starting 11 of which 5 outfield players haven’t played together competitively.
I dunno, lads… can’t wait for Aug 6th… but also wish things kicked of a month later to bed new players into an all new system.
This time last year with Bielsa I was optimistic albeit concerned at squad depth.
This year… I don’t know what to expect.

TorontoWhite

1.) 16 Jun 2022 18:08:17
Don't panic Toronto I think everything going as well as can be expected and a lot smoother/ quicker than when the big man was in charge. My only concern is, like you, the LB slot altho I am sure work is going om behind the scenes and failure to land anybody we always have Firpo. Sorry I meant Hjelde. As a strong backup.


2.) 16 Jun 2022 18:14:22
There are a heck of a lot of unknowns this season for sure. I guess all we can do is wait and see. don't forget the window has only just opened as well so plenty of time for reinforcements.


3.) 16 Jun 2022 19:08:03
Yes LB is a serious issue but even more so recruiting at least 3 goalscoring players

I an banging on about this because it will define our season

Unless we sign at least one proven goalscoring striker

And at least 2 goalscoring midfielders CM. and AM 8 to 10 goals a season's players (Aaranson I understand has never scored 10 goals in a season)

its going to be a tough R battle again.


4.) 16 Jun 2022 19:48:26
Toronto- Doubtless there’s lots going on in the background we’re not hearing about, and personally I’d prefer it that way. Why let our possible rivals in the market know what we’re doing? - so they can come in and outbid us, or at the least drive the transfer costs up.


 

 

14 Jun 2022 02:12:59
Mugger! Raph and KP will go… how can we replace them. For pity’s sake… don’t let Jack the lad Harrison go wi’ out a fight. We were three/ four places short of a squad for this year… let’s j no or make it 6 by losing two.

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1.) 14 Jun 2022 04:41:07
Toronto By buying other players! Plata and Roca sound promising. Wouldn't sell Jackie for anything less than £45M. He scores goals.


2.) 14 Jun 2022 10:59:29
Nooo George not even £45 million to selling Harrison we don't have anywhere near enough ( proven ) goalscoring players to avoid another R battle.


3.) 14 Jun 2022 12:48:47
Mohamed camara RB lapwing get him signed miles better then anything we have.


4.) 14 Jun 2022 13:00:13
As much as I like KP, I would be more upset to lose Harrison. Just my opinion.


5.) 14 Jun 2022 13:17:50
Definitely Mezzer
Losing KP for large money is bearable but losing ( most of our goals) in both Raph AND Harrison is a disaster.


6.) 14 Jun 2022 21:20:43
Huh, losing jack Harrison would upset you more than KP, i'd prefer to sell jack for £20million that lose KP for £60mil. One is an England international and one can barely score in a brothel or assist his nan out of bed. Harrison is our most inconsistent player in the 1st 11 in my opinion but when he’s on form he can be great but when he’s not we might as well be playing with 10 men and he turns up every 1 in 3/ 4 games.


7.) 15 Jun 2022 05:18:40
LAD Believing Jackie is more inconsistent than Firpo or Llorente especially given his goal involvement is an unusual opinion to put it mildly.


8.) 15 Jun 2022 05:21:35
Baz It's neither uncommon nor illegal to reinvest sale proceeds into other players. Plata, Diaz, Minamino and Adamu can score goals.


 

 

25 May 2022 18:04:06
Players we should hold onto (unless we get an offer)

Raphinha (£70 Million)
KP (£50 Million)
Harrison (£40 Million)
James (£35M)
Paddy B (£40 Million)

Koch (£20 Million)
Llorente (£15 million)
Struijk (£15 million)
Bill ($15 Million)
Stuart D (£18M)
Forshaw (£12Million)
Firpo (£10Million)
Rodrigo (£15M)
Meslier (£25M)

Prices set high a) because with a few exceptions I’d like to keep pretty much them all and just add and b) their replacement will cost this much given teams like Spurs have inflated war chest of £150 M and we’re competing against them.

TorontoWhite

1.) 25 May 2022 20:07:20
If we could get 85 mill for Dallas Firpo Bill llronte Foreshaw and Rodrigo time to cash in.


2.) 25 May 2022 20:59:19
Toronto mate, apologises in advance if I've mis read your post, but Spurs have a world class stadium, world class manager, 3 maybe more world class players and are champions league team, so imo i don't think we are competing with them, maybe 1 day.


3.) 25 May 2022 21:01:09
Absobloodylutely Corky, kerching £££££ 👍👍.


4.) 25 May 2022 23:19:42
Cork Would only get half that for those players.


5.) 26 May 2022 08:42:33
I was going by Torontos fees. If only aye?


 

 

23 May 2022 11:30:55
After yesterday… I realize I never ever want to go though that again… I want us to aspire and not to repeat the mistakes… Radz said as much yesterday.

Sign 3 or 4 quality (LB, CDM, CAM*! and striker) while keeping Raph and KP then we could challenge for Europa league next season.

Also… assuming Drameh, Cresswell, Hjelde, Greenwood and Summerville all kick on, we could be in good nick to have a European campaign season after next.

But we have to aspire to do this and have the backing as well as the business model to be sure we don’t fall foul of FFP.

We can probably sell £20-25 million and clear some wages… but I reckon we’ll need to spend £75 Million upwards and hold onto the quality we have.

And we need a 60,000 seater stadium in order to challenge “the big 7” (big 6 plus Newcastle) .

This is what it’ll take to “realize the dream”… to be thriving well above mid table and/ or the drop zone… as we don’t in our life times ever want to go there again.

(* assume aaronson is this for now)

TorontoWhite

1.) 23 May 2022 12:29:09
Has the bluffer spoken Toronto,? I only seen him bigging it up at full time, haven't heard him address the farce he created this season yet!


2.) 23 May 2022 12:56:02
A very good experienced Number 1 GK ( Nick Pope would be awesome) Meslier number 2 still very young for a gk

1st choice LB
2 CMS,
CAM Pablo. type with very good goals and assists record .
Does this Aaranson have good goal and assist stats?
2 strikers minimum.


3.) 23 May 2022 14:05:57
Like the idea of a veteran keeper to help Meslier but not to displace him. Something similar happened I think to him at Lorient and a big part of why he wanted to leave. Pope is a No.1 and would cost £20m (too much compared to other needs in the team) . Mccarthy, Forster, Foster, Begovic are all out of contract and some there would likely accept backing up Meslier whilst keeping him honest but also supporting him. A new left back, two new mids (of which Aaronson might be one) , and a new striker seem on the agenda before spending significant fees on a new keeper.


4.) 23 May 2022 14:22:37
Aaronson had 10 goals and 6 assists in all club comps last season including 2 in 2 against Bayern Munich. So not bad but always hard to tell.

I'd take a couple leaders in midfield like Oriol Romeu (1yr left on his Southampton deal) and James Milner - so many including myself think this is too romantic and how much use but epitomises a true pro and changes the game for Liverpool when he comes on. A great role model even just for a yr or two if he came. Romeu would add some protection in front of the back four and could play with or be backup for Kal. two or three from Phillips, Milner, Romeu, Klich, Aaronson, Forshaw and Bate and Kenneh as developing/ backup is a lot more depth and quality than what we have at present and doesn't cost a load fee wise leaving some space to improve elsewhere. Those thinking we can return to Top 10 in one season are too optimistic and if we can finish 15th or better next year I'll be happy.


5.) 23 May 2022 14:23:50
Toronto We require a net spend closer to £150M. Goalkeeper, central defender, left back, defensive midfield, central midfield, attacking midfield, striker plus another striker.


6.) 23 May 2022 16:12:45
Veteran Gk on a free would be good, loan out klassen
Any thoughts on Target, do Villa want him back, is he what Newcastle want, think he ain't a bad choice, and his clearance yesterday from cork was top draw.
Also heard from a Spud that Conte wants 2 world class wing backs, Sessignon on loan maybe,
MOT.


7.) 23 May 2022 21:56:33
I posted a similar list about a month ago, but these are the level of players we should be going for, not settling for a player who will be 37 in Jan and is paid £140k per week, or a limited 30 year old who could possibly be back up to KP. Sorry to be rude but those are poor propositions. We need to and should aim higher.

Sam Johnstone (free)
Ola Aina
Brenden Aaronsen
Seko Fofana
Lukas Nmecha.


8.) 24 May 2022 07:27:23
Pope would be icing on the cake. He was one of key reasons it was close at end of season… a keeper with England senior squad aspirations.

But Meslier needs first team play.

We might pick up Krul for cheap who could push Ilan but also provide mentorship.

My bet is Jesse plays 4-2-2-2 or 4-2-3-1 which means we also need someone to partner KP as a natural CDM… at the minute it’s Forshaw, Dallas, Klich and/ or Koch and Struijk… none of which are natural in the position.


 

 

22 May 2022 21:00:19
There’s the expression “having kittens”… well I both mothered and fathered three litters, reared them, raised them to the end of my mortal coil… and am now pushing up daisies in the Catshill Cemetry.

Fate… she loves me … she loves me not… good job them daisies has an odd number of petals this side of the Pennines and even numbers over in Lancs.

I wish Raph would stay knowing there’s no league like the Prem and he’ll never be loved more than at LS11.

KP… he knows what it means… and if Radz (with 49ers help) puts his and others money where their mouths were after the game, we’ll add 5 players to KP and Raph and have a real crack at Europe places next season.

Meanwhile… I’ll desist from my spirit world transcription and go back to my well earned slumbers, the reward of us who ride the roller coaster with ALAW love in our hearts… as me missus used to say, “ that team’ll be the death of you”… and of course she was right… but at least I died happy… as the team survived… and the legacy - as fans, our legacy- has hope for another year.

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26 Sep 2020 09:27:09
His English is well better than my Spanish. all I care about is if his feet talk International-grade Footballish. that and he can give just one chorus of MOT. that’d make me more than happy.

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20 Aug 2020 17:04:23
Snaily Trail is reporting it’s £30 meg. This should be best and final for sure!

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20 Aug 2020 17:01:38
Love White. solid guy. got on well with the lads. and put in his shifts for us. but he ain’t proven at Premier League level and is not yet a 50 mega quid worth of player.

Robin Koch, 2 internationals, proven at Bundesliga level, just 23 and at a fraction of the price. I say if Brighton don’t bite at £30 meg . we should cut bait and get Robin in and not look back.

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24 May 2022 07:27:23
Pope would be icing on the cake. He was one of key reasons it was close at end of season… a keeper with England senior squad aspirations.

But Meslier needs first team play.

We might pick up Krul for cheap who could push Ilan but also provide mentorship.

My bet is Jesse plays 4-2-2-2 or 4-2-3-1 which means we also need someone to partner KP as a natural CDM… at the minute it’s Forshaw, Dallas, Klich and/ or Koch and Struijk… none of which are natural in the position.

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19 May 2022 16:06:08
I am actually more worried about the quality of the squad if we stay up… the ownership clearly want to balance the books and trust in development… and KP and Raph def going this summer… without them we are ho-hum … and we’re already struggling to stay up with them in the squad.

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11 Aug 2021 15:24:58
Ya… all good thoughts… team work high on list and a key to success… no confirm on actual interest on De Paul…. Bielsa selective and rightly so.

But.

We should want to have our cake AND eat it.

We should have players that would fit the team, develop the team, pass Bielsa’s selection criteria and convey the forward momentum to the current players who we want to hang onto and the fans.

Tough to find… but squad depth is not there… it’s a big risk and we have a couple of quality issues.

Europe next year. Champions league the next after that. That’s what we want. After 16 years of spit… reckon it’s what we deserve.

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11 Aug 2021 05:59:24
Nope… Kent not good enough to improve the team.

That’s a good policy, Radz … but should come with a “but we would be open to paying enough to improv the team…”.

35 mega quid would get us an asensio… last year would have got us DePaul… ~10 meg is not enough for O’ Brien. But that’s not enough to improve the squad.

No Bielsa announcement yet… so he’s putting the pressure on.

We should too.

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04 Jul 2021 14:52:52
Yes… Tyler Coberts… you know… us u23 who plays for Wales… come on… do keep up!

(Or whoops! )

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