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17 Aug 2024 15:23:58
Lets be honest the owners were left with some crazy contract clauses, along with some ridiculous buys which has left us where we are.
Sorting all that was going to take time with challenges thrown up along the way.
Id like to think the 49'ers are serious about their investment and purely from an ego perspective will want to join the premier league.
I believe they will invest in the next 2 to 3 windows, this one included and the team will become much stronger (we all know the positions needed) .
The bigger issue for me is the manager, I'm yet to be convinced about our pattern of play, its too dependent upon individual flair to get results, remove that flare and what's left?
Work for the owners to do, don't think that will include changing managers but if you want to be successful then ruthless decisions need to be made.
1.) 17 Aug 2024 15:45:23
Good post TJ70 esp on Farke style of play ; there isn't one.
2.) 17 Aug 2024 16:13:04
Are they rediculas clauses?
I don’t think they are. Lots of players and clubs have them. If they wouldn’t sign without them then they are needed not stupid.
Look on bright side we have made a load of money that other clubs in spurs leauge could only dream of.
As for farke best leeds manager since maybe el tel or Wilko…. If only he was given 45 million like bubs not forced to sell 100 million.
Sad thing is because Belisa was useless farke has to sell these players due to the fortunes Belisa wasted.
Only an idiot doubts farke at this level, only a fool still rates Belisa.
3.) 17 Aug 2024 16:27:43
Still peddling the same baloney Berma . you can write it a million times very few if any agree with you on here re Bielsa.
4.) 17 Aug 2024 16:30:00
Great bit of bait there, Bermo. I'm sure you will get a few bites, but I'm going to refrain on this one as it's too comical.
5.) 17 Aug 2024 16:43:07
I don't know if anyone else saw but one ridiculous clause manes we have had to pay Hoffenheim £6.2 million for the sale of Rutter. Meaning we lose £1.2 million for selling him.
6.) 17 Aug 2024 17:13:18
Crikey Berm having a lovely day at the seaside but just found out in an idiot AND a fool!
Bielsa can do no wrong in my foolish eyes, Farke has undoubtedly a great championship record but currently believes Piroe warrants a starting place in this side and that Mess is the best keeper in this division.
If we went Roman gladiators style and asked Elland Roadwho they wished was manager of Leeds United going back twenty years if you like I’m confident Bielsa would be their overwhelming choice.
But none taken, Mrs Class calls me far worse names .
7.) 17 Aug 2024 17:17:57
Bermo, I must be an idiot then as I definitely doubt Farke.
I've not heard anyone apart from you suggest the relegation clauses were acceptable.
As for Farke he had far more than £45 million worth of players at his disposal let year and his poor management denied us promotion. Shocking ineptitude towards the end of the season with players out of form still picked, players picked in incorrect positions, lack of substitutions, essentially no bravery when it was obvious changes were needed.
We're not going anywhere with him in charge. Best manager since Wilco? Mmm okay.
8.) 17 Aug 2024 18:15:00
Yeah sorry but it’s a joke.
These are facts logged at company’s house
Leeds spent 45 million the year we went up then 350 million while in prem. Belisa had a great hand and messed it up
Farke had a joke of a pre season last year and got us 90 points then this year didn’t spend 45 million but sold 100 million how can any compare
Farke got Norwich up twice spending very little. And is still doing a good job
Belisa spent around 400 million while leeds manager these are facts companies house facts (watch the ger one leeds podcast with the expert who spoke about it) for 400 million he made us a joke.
Meanwhile farke is statistically the best manager the championship has ever seen again these are facts.
Farke had a very bad hand at leeds due to the 400 million Belisa wasted making us a joke.
I won’t mention it anymore but I don’t see how anyone can logically argue with this. Again these are facts and pretty damming.
That’s like giving farke 150 million to spend next summer I think he’d probably get us promoted.
9.) 17 Aug 2024 18:39:13
What have I just read? ?
Just wow.
10.) 17 Aug 2024 18:49:03
What’s a few hundred million got to do with anything? Chelsea have spent billions, Citeh have spent billions but Guardiola still names Bielsa the greatest manager in world football, but then you also rated Allardyce football too as I recall.
I would pay as much as I could afford to watch Bielsa ball it was a struggle not to switch to golf watching today’s game.
Have to agree to disagree Berm nothing wrong with differing opinions, but I do not see the relevance to continually dig out Bielsa for the current teams woes.
Companies house can say what it likes but nobody knows who actually picked chose the players but we can definitely say who reunited a whole city and whose name is still sung loudly at games.
11.) 17 Aug 2024 19:29:45
Class, some Leeds fans are bemoaning farke look at what farke has had to deal with
Last season was a joke and this year he has made over 100 million meanwhile Belisa spent 400 million
I make films my films was made for 280k has won awards and topped the amazing chart however can you compare it with deadpool which was made for over 200 million… course not.
Farke had bad hand Belisa had a great hand yet Belisa messed it up… useless manager… 400 million to fail.
12.) 17 Aug 2024 21:00:58
Bermo, your logic completely ignores the fact that that Bielsa inherited a dogsh! t side with zero star players, who were underdogs to even reach the play offs and got a tune out of them and went on to win the league the season after.
Whereas Farke inherited a team which were favourites to get promoted, had millions more worth of talent and somehow failed to even get top two, then failed to win the play offs. This despite having an objectively better side than any team Bielsa managed while here.
I'm not saying Farke is a bad manager, he's not, but he's clearly got limitations and nowhere near the tactital acumen of Bielsa. Who worked wonders with a team consisting of Casilla, Ayling, Cooper, Berardi, Alioski, Dallas, Klich, Pablo, Bamford, and bleeding Tyler Roberts. Oh, along with turning Phillips into a fully-fledged international by coaching him to his potential.
That group of players had no right to do what they did in that promotion season, and furthermore go on to a 9th place finish the season after that in the Prem.
Some coaches can't get promoted despite having the best squad in the league, whilst great coaches can get promoted with a completelty mediocre squad that they somehow turned into world beaters. And were a joy to watch whilst doing it!
I thought it was funny at first but you're actually mental if you think that, mate. Seek help.
13.) 17 Aug 2024 21:34:34
Sorry, last part wasn't called for, just don't think you've made a very good argument. Apologies, Bermo ?.
14.) 17 Aug 2024 21:42:04
Peace…. they both are and have been decent managers. Both, in their own style have largely given us the best 3 or 4 years in a generation (or more) .
I was mortified when Bielsa was sacked, but I wouldn’t have him back. He did something special with a “special” group of players, but I also remember the utter derision when he was appointed on the terraces. I also remember that what was being said before that first game against promotion favourites Stoke.
I was surprised when Farke was appointed, but thanked for small mercies that they didn’t stick with Big Sam, so accepted it with an element of relief rather than any real expectation. I do think Farke has been unlucky and for that I would rather stick than twist at the moment.
We don’t need a change of manager, we are just inviting yet more turmoil. We have to accept our lot and that promotion is probably unlikely, especially top 2, but considering that has been the case for 95% of seasons in the last 40 odd seasons I struggle to understand why everyone gets so bent out of shape about it. Until Bielsa and latterly Farke, we were a run of the mill championship side at best. Both spoilt us with higher expectations.
15.) 17 Aug 2024 21:53:31
Great posts Dill ( especially) , Class and TJ!
16.) 17 Aug 2024 22:31:42
How the hell did Bielsa spend 400 million? I know over 100 mill was spent after promotion but I can’t see 400!
17.) 17 Aug 2024 22:41:07
Dill no you don’t see what bubs did and had
Firstly he inherited a team that push for playoffs under monk.
First thing he was spend 17 million on bamford (huge fee for championship) he then loaned prem players.
Yes he coached them and imporved them bubs is a world class coach just useless match day manager (they are different things) .
In first season despite decent squad and strong finitial footings he threw away promotion twice in record breaking fashion… just facts
He then loaned three premiership quality players in nekitia white and Harrison and spent another 17 odd on costa… remember him
So second attempt he spent 45 million … again facts and won promotion with a squad that cost a fortune and had lots of prem loans.
Is this any kind of achievement…. No not for me.
Then in prem he spent 300 million… again facts and turned us into an absolute joke…. Back him if you want but it’s just makes no sense.
Farke has had a team in disarray with no money…. And done well…. No comparison
Yes bubs is great coach but as a manager awful…. To spend 350 million to make a team a joke that loses 5-1 almost every week… hockaday did better pound for pound.
I like you dill and respect you. Ed’s please pass on my email let’s have a chat on zoom after a 25 minute debate every leeds fan agrees with me when I discuss it with you, they always see I’m right about this.
{Ed001's Note - I don't have your email. We don't keep them.}
18.) 17 Aug 2024 22:54:06
Lukic Lover When's the main feature ????? ❤ a good farce. ?.
19.) 17 Aug 2024 22:54:34
Baz Dill is in imperious form.
20.) 18 Aug 2024 01:06:05
Corky so far Bermo has in 2 posts changed his fantasy amount THREE times . £300 million, £350 million, £400 million
any takers on half a billion?
Georgey . maybe Berm is bringing back the classic 1960s Carry On films :
'Carry on Fabricating' perhaps.
26 May 2024 19:11:52
Not a terrible season, especially considering the turmoil at the start, just a disappointing end.
Farke can't argue that he oversaw some impressive victories, but equally there were too many avoidable defeats, not clever enough in using the squad (particularly Anthony and Joseph). Also, too much possession based football with no sense of urgency at times.
Would the Leicester, Ipswich, or Southampton manager have got Leeds promoted? I think yes, so what does that say about Farke? For me, I think there are better managers out there.
Sell or loan out again the loanees from last year and get as much as we can for Gnonto and. Summerville. Would hate to see Gray go but fear its on the cards if the offer is high enough.
Say bye bye to Bamford and Piroe if we can find someone daft enough to buy them (would be surprised).
Midfield far too defensive, so as others have said, it's obvious we need an attacking mid and a decent centre forward to help Joseph become the player we think he can.
And for the love of God, can someone explain to the players that we are allowed to score from set pieces.
1.) 26 May 2024 19:29:15
Spot on post TJ70
Having witnessed 49 matches under DF . disappointed in him overall .
2.) 26 May 2024 19:50:32
Let’s be having Baz you are disappointed in everyone concerning our club, but of course you know better!
3.) 26 May 2024 19:59:36
NO GUTS NO GLORY! If we wanted it we should have went for it!
4.) 26 May 2024 20:05:00
Well you would be Baz but that would be expected from someone with very little knowledge of football.
5.) 26 May 2024 22:18:55
OP I know you revel in making feeble excuses for failure but even you can't woefully happy clap away the facts
1) Top with just 8 games remaining but ended up 4th best team!
2) one team of which was 2 leagues lower than Leeds last season etc etc.
6.) 26 May 2024 22:33:10
I think you need to calm down!
7.) 26 May 2024 22:53:09
Sorry replying to OpPess.
8.) 27 May 2024 00:40:10
Sevenoaks . yes OP is salty.
9.) 27 May 2024 06:36:43
So sorry my posts don’t comply with how you feel they should Sevenoaks.
FYI Baz is a WUM on this forum and needs to be reigned in from time to time.
If you were a regular on here you would know he dishes out more than he receives.
Calm down yourself Dad.
10.) 27 May 2024 13:40:34
What OP said!
10 Mar 2024 11:48:25
I know its all ifs buts and maybes but in the last 12 games.
Leicester. 20 points
Ipswich. 24 points
Southampton. 23 points
Leeds. 34 points.
Same points per game for the last 9 games leaves the finish as.
Leeds. 104 points
Leicester. 97 points
Ipswich 96 points
Southampton. 90 points
Obviously form etc so just a bit of fun!
1.) 10 Mar 2024 12:12:29
As long as we beat the worst team every to walk this plant and stick one up on Harris I will be happy .
2.) 10 Mar 2024 12:44:55
I’ll have what whiteman puffing!
3.) 10 Mar 2024 13:58:48
??? funny Corky mate, very funny ???.
4.) 10 Mar 2024 14:13:12
Leicester fans will go into absolute meltdown if they bottle it and don't go up
As far back as last November they were ( unwisely) proclaiming that Leicester were guaranteed up.
5.) 10 Mar 2024 14:25:16
Lovely to have you back Woody mate. Too many gooduns have left us .
6.) 10 Mar 2024 14:28:53
I think Leicester found it easy to start with. The premier league players strutting around in the first few months sweeping teams aside.
Now after playing lots of games week in week out . Dodgy pitches at nowhere grounds. They're finding it hard. Teams are scrapping now for play offs or against relegation. This is the time to stand up. Who has got the most fight left.
7.) 10 Mar 2024 15:48:15
Cheers Corky, really kind of you mate, in truth I’ve missed not posting but I’ve always been reading the posts, I’ve not been good as I got diagnosed with cancer, a rare cancer called a GIST so 3 operations later and I’m back stronger than ever after being told I had 16 to 24 months left so I’m very grateful to be still here, and in between I got married, so it’s been really busy.
Reading the posts did keep me going especially the funny ones, there are a lot of good lads in here, just some are more funny than others! lol cheers though mate, it’s because of you and a few others that I wanted to come back on here ??.
8.) 10 Mar 2024 15:51:31
CORKWHITE you must have been to the Den it’s full of.
9.) 10 Mar 2024 17:20:51
Keep positive Woody. I believe that being positive helps us no end. Congrats on your wedding mate ?.
10.) 10 Mar 2024 17:24:49
Jebus Woody! Even more pleased that you’re back after reading that! Congratulations on the marriage, and fingers crossed the health boost continues!
11.) 10 Mar 2024 17:56:29
Thanks Corky and Brightwhite, glad to be here, don’t know about the married bit though lol ??.
12.) 10 Mar 2024 18:21:23
Great to hear you’ve made a sensational recovery Woody, courage and positivity always helps and I’m sure you are not short of that.
Congratulations on your marriage also ???
Leeds being promoted, the glory days are on their way mate.
Marching On Together.
13.) 10 Mar 2024 18:38:16
?y Double congratulations ??.
14.) 10 Mar 2024 19:39:55
Yep many congrats Woody pal. pleased for you.
15.) 10 Mar 2024 20:01:17
Thank you all for your kind words, it really is good to chat with you all again. First time married for me at 56 not bad, I’ve managed to stay happy all these years but now I’ve come crashing down to earth! lol. ? life’s good chaps and now I’ve retired early and time to enjoy what’s left starting with a fantastic promotion to the Premier League as Champions, ? now that would be good eh, thanks again lads ??.
16.) 10 Mar 2024 20:02:49
All the best Woody ?.
17.) 10 Mar 2024 20:05:12
Great to see you back Woody. Used to read your posts long before I joined so marvellous to see you back on here and fighting all the way.
Best Wishes :)))
18.) 11 Mar 2024 08:43:05
Good to see you back mate and congratulations.
12 Aug 2023 18:17:55
On a plus point we don't need 11 signings, I think 9 or 10 should do it.
1.) 12 Aug 2023 19:05:34
Tj ??.
18 Apr 2023 23:43:36
With Gnonto not starting or getting many minutes at all, it's looking like they have an agreement to sell him and don't want him injured.
Can't see any other reason for what is probably our best player not being on the pitch when we most need him.
1.) 19 Apr 2023 00:05:25
Not sure I love gnoto but his replacement is sini and he had been class.
2.) 19 Apr 2023 07:25:55
The fact 4 of our 'better' players all prefer left wing underlines how incompetent our recruitment has been.
3.) 19 Apr 2023 08:12:30
Good point alf.
4.) 19 Apr 2023 11:22:29
But Bermo you have Ortas recruitment as very good in your other recent posts not incompetent. ?.
5.) 19 Apr 2023 16:45:03
I had a feeling you might jump on this baz… having three very good left wingers with no decent right back …. Is a very good point made by Alf
However I stand by ortas recuirtment has in general been good. Some misses of course who don’t but in general I think he’s done a good job.
6.) 19 Apr 2023 17:37:46
Fair enough Berm your opinion but results and league positions past 2 seasons . well you know the rest.
17 Aug 2024 17:17:57
Bermo, I must be an idiot then as I definitely doubt Farke.
I've not heard anyone apart from you suggest the relegation clauses were acceptable.
As for Farke he had far more than £45 million worth of players at his disposal let year and his poor management denied us promotion. Shocking ineptitude towards the end of the season with players out of form still picked, players picked in incorrect positions, lack of substitutions, essentially no bravery when it was obvious changes were needed.
We're not going anywhere with him in charge. Best manager since Wilco? Mmm okay.
03 Jun 2024 23:37:38
Mighty, totally agree but I kind of wish I didn't if that makes sense?
Cork, I was brought up in the Keegan, Robson, Francis etc time when watching England as a child was an almost magical experience.
Sadly I just don't feel that passion for England anymore. Is it too many tournament disappointments, frustration with the 'new' England we are living in, a disconnect between footballers and society in general?
Who knows, if you'd told a ten year old me that I wouldn't even bother watching England play then that 10 yr old wouldn't have believed it.
I'd go as far as saying if there was no England team then i'd be okay with that. Thankfully I still feel the passion about LUFC and long may that continue.
18 Feb 2024 10:13:46
No in a word, wouldn't have him back.
Too soon to judge him in a West Ham shirt but seems slower than he was and that was his main weakness already.
Did well for us under Bielsa and there is talent there as we all know but not sure what he offers, slows the game down and if players go past him he can't catch them. Bit like Maguire in that he's good at some things but has a major weakness that makes him a liability.
16 Nov 2023 22:43:44
Great question.
Took me a while but without any Leeds bias and apologies for the two from the other side of the country I'd go with the following.
1. Joe Corrigan
2. Rob Jones (injuries maybe)
3. Steve Bruce
4. Woodgate (Injuries again)
5. Dorigo
6. Ray Parlour
7. Maddison
8. Carrick
9. Le Tissier
10. Ian Wright
11. Don Revie.
22 Sep 2023 18:46:28
Leodis,
It's great that women's football has grown over the years, loved watching my daughter play for many years but. couldn't agree more with you, absolutely detest hearing women commentators. Just something about the pitch of their voice doesn't enhance the spectacle, rather it detracts from it.
I actually think Alex Scott is okay in pundit role but if I'm honest I think it would be much better if women stuck to womens football and left us to it.
But, that's the world we live in where so called equality trumps common sense and few seem able to stand up and say what I'd guess 90% of men would say with regard to the sudden need to include women in the mens game.