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29 Dec 2023 23:19:36
Another blow out. We're not really at the races yet. Lucky goal for Brom but no serious attempts on goal from us. Bringing on Bamford and Joseph is a waste of time. Gnonto isn't even trying. We're badly set up and will do well to make the playoffs unless there's some serious recruitment. I watched Southampton earlier and we could learn from them. Balanced team. Good players playing in their preferred positions and carrying a goal threat. We're a mess. Something needs to change.

1.) 30 Dec 2023 00:40:01
Fair post.

16 Jul 2023 21:40:38
I'm a very occasional poster on this site but I check it most days for info and insights. I want to make 3 points today. First, the site is becoming very boring with the same few posting the same points ad nauseam. Could we all just self-edit a little please and if it's not new then please wait until you have something new to impart. In the same vein nobody needs to engage in personalised comments. If you have a (hopefully new) point to make then just make it. Secondly I'm disappointed to see really negative personalised comments on some of the players. Look they frustrate me too but many of them got us promoted and gave us a great first season back in the PL. So let's remember that and cut them some slack. Let's also try to understand why some of these players' level of performance has dropped, be it advancing age or injuries or the fact that Bielsa and his tactics ran them into the ground. It was great for a season or two but ultimately it was naive schoolboy football and the players simply broke down. I'd include Philips, Bamford and Harrison as players who gave their all too often and paid the price. Which brings me to my third point. Revie and Wilkinson knew what Bielsa refused to acknowledge. You build a successful team from the back. Revie had world class defenders so could have an erratic keeper. Wilkinson didn't have world class defenders but had a world class midfield that protected his fairly average defence. Bielsa simply didn't buy into that, got away with it for a few seasons but came totally unglued in his final season and left a burnt out squad behind him. We've been trying to recover ever since and admittedly have not helped ourselves with some of our recruitment of players and coaches. I'm hopeful that, given time, Farke and his team can get us back to basics and rebuild our great club. But it may take time and it may be better for that as we bed in new players and systems of play. All we can contribute as fans is positivity. Let's make sure we play our part.

1.) 16 Jul 2023 22:27:49
Bielsa inherited a squad of mid table championship players and took them to 9th in the EPL. How? By making them super fit and coaching them to bring out their strengths. Yes, a squad of average players were never going to be able to maintain that which was why recruitment was absolutely key to us establishing ourselves in the prem but we bought sub standard and that was never going to work. It didn't. When Bielsa left despite spending a fortune for the Marsch the true qualities of the squad showed and we sunk like a stone. You can criticise all you want but without that super fitness we would never have been promoted in the first place. Revie and Wilko both had decent players to work with. We didn't and that's largely because we wasted millions on poor players.

2.) 16 Jul 2023 22:47:37
Don't think for most part posters go in on players here, more the former board. Certain players needed replacing, upgrading. If you're not good enough anymore, you get moved on. That simple. Boring? Site is rarely dull and until ratification comes in it's bound to be a little repetitive. No significant signings until then. Occasional posters don't usually ask the regular posters to change their posting style and opinions. George's sixpence.

3.) 16 Jul 2023 23:40:49
Sixpence, as an occasional poster myself (weekly reader) I wouldn't think it appropriate to 'call out' regulars on their posting style.
That right is earned through regular interaction with other posters.
Disagree the site is becoming boring, if it was then we wouldn't keep coming back to it, surely?
Wilko had an average defence you reckon. Chris Whyte maybe but Sterland, Dorigo and Fairclough would have got in any of the top six teams at that moment in time. You simply don't win the league with an average defence, no matter how good the midfield in front of you is.

4.) 16 Jul 2023 23:56:37
OAS you are indeed a ' very occasional 'poster and on a quick perusal of each of your 5 most recent posts ALL FIVE of your posts have been critical of players and managers alike you referring to players as ' useless ' and ' mediocre '

And you are dismissive/ critical of Bielsa,

And European Cup Finalist Manager Jummy Armfield,

And also twice European Cup Semi Finalist David Oleary regular top 3 to 5 EPL placing

and George Graham.

Howard Wilkinson achievements of 3 trophies didn't exactly get any real praise from you either ?

Not a positive, complimentary nor pleasant post to be found from you ??. a tad ironic?

#do as I say not as I do?

5.) 17 Jul 2023 00:09:36
You build from the back? That’s what Revie n Wilko did he says.
Then this new geezer goes on to say Revie had a crap keeper and Wilko an average defence. Hardly building ftom the back!
Congratulations on a sixpence, worst post of the pre season and that’s no mean feat!

6.) 17 Jul 2023 02:51:02
Don't agree with what OAS said and it is a bit ironic that he seems concerned about being critical of individuals, although his post does the same thing (non-players are still individuals) .

But guys, some of the reaction seems a bit harsh to me.

I am always happy to see new posters and he is as entitled to his opinion as you guys are that post a lot (and those of us that don't post so much) .

Although I do not have a great footballing knowledge and have been a little scared to make comments because of this, I am making a determined effort to contribute more this season.

I am sure there are many others like me that have been sitting on the fence about contributing and may not do it now for fear of being hammered.

7.) 17 Jul 2023 07:17:28
That's a cheeky post pal

Regular posters are what makes this site the place we love you may not agree but 99% of us do .

Cork said it rather succinctly in reply to your post ?.

8.) 17 Jul 2023 07:38:24
For any lurkers out there I’m sure it’ll make them think twice about joining in the banter section.
Some posts do get hammered, ridiculed and vilified if it doesn’t suit some mainstream posters on here. They are just opinions and it is not a competition to see who is right or wrong.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and shouldn’t feel they’re hounded out for it either.

Yes, very ironic #do as I say not as I do? Or
#It’s my way or the highway you Clown.
Followed by a heap of ridiculing emoji’s ???????????.

9.) 17 Jul 2023 09:41:13
Spot on brothers and or sisters, thems theys it’s etc…. ALAW?

10.) 17 Jul 2023 10:23:48
OAS - as a reader of the site, it may not surprise you that I agree with much of your sentiment, it can indeed become boring to see the same poster (s) posting virtually the same things adnauseam, and sometimes the comments on players, others at our Club, and fellow posters descends to playground levels. Much though many might wish that one or two posters would pause for thought before hitting send, it seems unfortunately that no amount of requests, polite or otherwise, will elicit a change. That being the case, I’d suggest you adopt the approach others already take of fast-forwarding past the value-subtracted posts and enjoy reading the rest. As for suggesting that we all try to see the reasons for underperformance etc, as with trying to see valid reasons for transfers not working out etc etc, that too is like hitting your head against a brick wall - some don’t want to consider a reason for anything and are far happier just slating people.

11.) 17 Jul 2023 10:40:02
Agree this site is for all to post their opinions regardless if people agree or not with each other, makes the site banter what it is. (I'm sure we all know we are right anyway lol. )
As for having a pop at players, don't worry I'm sure none bother to read this site anyway!

12.) 17 Jul 2023 12:30:39
OAS

I'm pretty sure there will be an abundance of fruity subjects for folks to express their opinion about over the coming weeks; as George said; with little news or much happening presently, it might have become a little bit samey; nevertheless folks should keep posting.

13.) 17 Jul 2023 12:55:07
OAS. I came off the site for a while due to the negativity. I used to be danumwhite returned as whitedanum just to fool everyone! but I don’t think anyone would be offended by posting something and then getting slagged off for it. After all most of us on here don’t know each other and never will, and it could quite possibly be that the posters we don’t agree with, if we knew them, we could be really good mates with, and the ones we do tend to agree with could be complete tossers in real life! ??‍♂️.

14.) 17 Jul 2023 14:49:21
Spot on Danum! I’m a massive tosser!

15.) 17 Jul 2023 18:18:00
I always assumed you were Bright, but I’m sure we could still be friends! ?.

12 May 2023 22:15:55
Everyone is getting blamed here, but it's all a bit pointless (no pun intended). We have 30 points. We need at least 4 from the available 9 to have a chance of staying up and we have to try to get them with the squad we have. So the only points worth discussing is how do we as fans think we can do that or not.

We as fans bear some responsibility for the decisions of the board. Can you imagine the protests if they'd appointed Dyche or Wilder or Big Sam to replace Bielsa? So they didn't. They tried to get a Bielsa continuity candidate, but he had zero PL or other top flight experience. Also, the board didn't insist on his back up team having good PL experience, so he hired more novices.

I've been a Leeds fan for over 60 years and it was never easy. We had a great spell under the Don who was so far ahead of his time. Watch our sole Cup triumph against Arsenal and you could be watching today's Man City. The then board made catastrophic error after error when he left and the ship was only righted by Wilko. He had a brief success with mostly journeymen players but a stunning midfield.

Then we flattered to deceive under Graham and O'Leary. Since then it's been really thin gruel until Bielsa showed up. He gave us back our respect and got us back to the PL but then failed to build out the squad which eventually got found out last season.

We then embarked on the usual round of hapless managers again.
We overstate our pedigree. It hurts me to say it, but it's a significantly lesser one than Man U, Liverpool or Arsenal. We haven't come close to winning a meaningful trophy in over 30 years.

We've had absolute tossers for owners most of that time. Yet we continue to think we deserve top managers, top players and a high performing team. It shows great loyalty on our part, but it's completely unrealistic and that failure to accept reality puts owners and DoFs and players under too much pressure. I was there for Wilkinson's final loss to MU and it wasn't pretty. He didn't walk away thinking he was a much loved successful manager.

Let's all get behind our team for the next 3 games and for next season in whichever league we deserve.

1.) 12 May 2023 23:03:59
Great Post sixpence, the fans snobby attitudes to Dyche and Big Sam certainly is responsible for
Marsch not being replaced by iether of these two much earlier.

Now we are in a terrible mess, not helped by Orta's irresponsible involvement, but the bottom line is our pedigree is a fraction of Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal and almost a dozen others. We are at best the 11th or 12th best supported club in England.

If we stay up or go down I would like us to keep Big Sam and in that way we have a more realistic chance of success which will be a mid table Premier league position or challenging for promotion from the Championship.

Bielsa is not returning and fans need to let this pipe dream go. move on and get behind the team.

2.) 12 May 2023 23:47:24
' catastrophic? error after error? ' immediately after the Revie golden era you say Mr Sixpence. Hmm

OK replacing the Don with Clough (especially without his assistant Peter Taylor ) was a ridiculous error, but not really your slightly hyperbole "catastrophic" as it was remedied quickly with his swift sacking.

The Leeds board next decision was a pretty good one when they brought in
Jimmy Armfield who did extremely well in getting Leeds United to the European Cup Final and was grossly unfairly cheated out of winning it .

As for Sgt Howard Wilkinson ( Leeds 2nd best ever manager) , yep losing heavily at home to you know who in 1996 . was not great timing for keeping his coaching position at Leeds BUT he is definitely 100% loved, cherished and appreciated by ALL Leeds United supporters I know of my age range and younger.

3.) 13 May 2023 06:11:27
Nonsense to say fans are to Blame. I guarantee you the managers choice was all theirs. The Blame thereso lies.
Dislike Sam but if Leeds are relegated I completely exonerate myself from any Blame at all.

4.) 13 May 2023 07:46:46
Good post sixpence. Concentrate on these three games and review in the summer. It doesn’t have to be a choice between Bielsa and big Sam, lots of other options for me. I wouldn’t stick with Sam in either situation.

5.) 13 May 2023 08:46:06
Good post sixpence but I’m not sure about Bielsa not improving his squad, it more than likely he wasn’t given the quality players he needed. Also pretty much the same for George Graham, he didn’t do too badly considering he wasn’t given a pot to piss in, then O’Leary stepped in and was showered with spending opportunities.
Agree that every fan who considers him or herself a fan of Leeds Utd should 100% get behind the team now. It’s not the time for squabbling and recriminations, that can come when it’s all over.

6.) 13 May 2023 09:20:02
Do not believe there is an EPL side in current existence that truly listens to its fans.

Everton’s fan base have probably been the most demonstrative in the league but the situation not the fans resulted in the appointment of Dyche.

As for Leeds Ed001 was responsible for telling us who Bielsa was as most of us had never heard of him. Just as it is ridiculous to expect Pep to manage us I do not believe there is a snobbish objection in our fan base to Big Sam or similar.

In reality luck plays a huge part in success the more recent issues have been as much down to a mixture of poor recruitment and injuries to our key players.

The recruitment of Ted Lasso had zilch to do with fan base and all to do with megalomaniac future owners looking to enhance commercial opportunities rather than improve the side.

I don’t recall any snobbery or objections to Big Sam’s appointment on here, people have rightly said if it’s long term the football may be a little bit more defensive minded, but Radz sacked Gracia and Orta to save his fortunes.

The fans could have demonstrated as Everton did during Marches woeful tenure but all they did was to sing Bielsa’s name.

The board didn’t listen then in truth they never will and all these supporter bodies which meet with boards at every club is just lip service so the owners can attend to watch their play things in relative safety.

Two missed opportunities which could have changed our modern history…. not recruiting when Bielsa had secured ninth place with amazing attractive football and not sacking Ted Lasso in the World Cup break. Villa did it got a top coach and now are fighting for Europe.

Supporters are a necessary evil to football club owners as grounds need to have an atmosphere in order to rake in the tv money.

7.) 13 May 2023 10:49:10
Spot on last three paragraphs class. Nut shell.

8.) 13 May 2023 11:12:40
Well said class ?.

30 Apr 2023 22:08:28
The only thing worse than a bad appointment is sticking with a bad appointment. Nothing to lose by firing Gracia. Get anyone, Sam or Harry or Rafa in and give it a roll. We're toast next week anyway.

1.) 01 May 2023 00:47:20
Agree 100.

2.) 01 May 2023 07:17:59
None of those aforementioned managers would want to take the job without the assurance that they would have a least another two seasons attached to their contract. I can’t see Radz doing that when he’s selling his shares in the summer. Shaun Dyche was apparently a master stroke going to Everton, some would say with his character he, more than anyone would be the person to gee up his players enough to get them to win matches, he’s not doing any better than Gracia atmo.
Tactically there’s not enough time to get the players organized enough to get us out of this mess with a coach of some reputation and that certain coach would very likely, even if he is available?, would want to come to a club that has a very good chance of being relegated.
You can see now that the players heads have dropped and they don’t believe anymore, that is the problem we have now, it’s just time to close your eyes, cross your fingers and pray.

3.) 01 May 2023 09:08:31
Yes OP…. that masterstroke of appointing Dyche before we could get him has really paid dividends for the Fudges so far hasn’t it!? ???.
It might yet once the fat lady is singing, but he ain’t all “that”, clearly!
I still believe that the only person who could get us back to what we were, is Bielsa.

17 Apr 2023 23:03:24
Team for game at Fulham:
Robles because Meslier needs resting.
Ayling because he's no worse than and smarter than the alternative.
Koch as he's the only real CH we have.
Cooper because he's committed and organised and generally only makes 1 mistake per game.
Struyk or Firpo. Both mediocre at LB.
Greenwood and Wober in middle because McK, Aaronson and Rocca are useless and disappear.
Harrison on left wing to help out LB
Rodrigo behind Bamford.
Summerville on right.

Gnonto, Sinistera and Aaronson as attacking options off the bench.

1.) 17 Apr 2023 23:15:29
Meslier has a bad back from picking the ball out of the net 11 times in two games.

Q. What time do Leeds kick off?

A. Every ten minutes.

2.) 18 Apr 2023 00:17:20
Sinisterra and Gnonto should be starters together.

3.) 18 Apr 2023 00:31:43
At least next season our team will be full of young Brits . giving 100% effort, fight, desire, heart, passion grit

unlike the disgraceful lack of integrity and effort overseas ' players ' we currently have now. Meslier giving so little effort to be even competent the worst of the very bad bunch.

4.) 18 Apr 2023 00:35:22
Very dubious lack of integrity Meslier faced 12 shots in 2 games
Saved one let in eleven

'Best Leeds gk ever ' Berm? . as if.

5.) 18 Apr 2023 01:03:48
Did you spell your own team name wrong?
Who are Wolverhamoton? ?.

6.) 18 Apr 2023 05:12:01
Wolves we are strong mate and can take your little joke .

7.) 18 Apr 2023 08:59:56
Mesiler is the most talented keeper we’ve ever had. Again that’s Martyn’s words not mine.

However his lack of decency is applying head turned wants out and given up which is a disgrace.

8.) 18 Apr 2023 12:34:16
Another midlands whopper sneaks in, with the oldest, weakest jibe used since primary school. D minus. Must try harder, whopper!

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