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14 Sep 2021 13:55:32
We are appealing Struijk’s red card. Phil Hay reported in The Athletic this morning that the Club was expected to do so, and has now said confirmation has been received that the relevant papers have now been submitted to the FA.

Given that former referees are reported to have said the challenge didn’t merit a red, and perhaps more pertinently Harvey Elliot has said it didn’t, you’d hope the appeal would have a good chance of being successful.

Clueless

1.) 14 Sep 2021 14:49:54
One thing against us Clueless, we are Leeds.


2.) 14 Sep 2021 15:05:36
In the meantime while the appeal goes through does that mean we can play Struijk against Newcastle or will a decision have been reached by Friday?


3.) 14 Sep 2021 15:59:41
I know, AGM. I was going to say that. The Leeds element of the case would stick out like an exceedingly sore thumb if the decision stands, given the precedent would seem to have been set by a very similar case involving Heung-min Son last season.

Alf - According to Leeds Live, the decision should be known tomorrow at the latest.


 

 

10 Sep 2021 22:48:05
This evening, the Club apparently tweeted a picture of Raphinha in training, with the message ‘R10🔥’.

Clueless

1.) 11 Sep 2021 10:20:52
That's true.


 

 

07 Sep 2021 23:11:56
That lad Haaland looks a good prospect. 🤪

Clearly Orta didn’t know what he was doing when Leeds tried to sign him from Molde in 2019, bringing him over to see all the Club’s facilities etc. Thankfully Red Bull Leipzig were able to blow our offer out of the water.

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1.) 08 Sep 2021 14:31:11
Clu Erling would have been a slight upgrade on Jay Roy Grot.


2.) 10 Sep 2021 08:59:23
Jay-Roy Grot clearly had the physical attributes to be a real handful at Championship level, being built like the proverbial brick s#*thouse and with a decent turn of speed. He’d been capped in the Dutch age group sides and already had a season in the Eredivisie, with 17 starts and 5 goals in the regular season and another goal in a relegation playoff match - not bad for an 18 year-old who’s manager kept switching his position, principally between RW and CF, but also with a game each at LW and as a secondary striker. Fiorentina had tried to sign him before he came to us, but couldn’t agree a fee with NEC, so overall he seemed like a decent prospect. Having joined us with the season already started, he apparently really struggled to settle with the move away from Holland, and getting dogs abuse from some of the fans probably didn’t help the lad. Having not managed to put a marker down in that first season he was probably never going to be able to make the cut when Bielsa whittled down the squad. He may have developed under a different manager here, but obviously we’ll never know.


 

 

24 Aug 2021 08:39:37
Rumoured to be interested in Thierry Small, 17 year old left back who’s just ripped up his scholarship contract at Everton as can’t see clear pathway to first team there. Villa and Saints said to be among other interested clubs. I hope we are on for him and convince him to choose us. We all know we are short of left backs at the Club, with a winger playing there for u23s. Small was playing with Toffees u23s aged 16, is well built and athletic, good defensively but also with skill and pace to be a wing-back. Him and Drameh at full back in years to come would be a scary prospect for many opponents.

Clueless

1.) 24 Aug 2021 12:07:08
He’s signed for Southampton.


2.) 24 Aug 2021 12:40:08
Yep. Gone to Saints.


3.) 24 Aug 2021 12:58:57
Cluey Wrote about this guy months ago quipping if he lined up with Robin, we'd have a Small Koch in our side. Baz subsequently replied to my post with numerous paragraphs indicating he had a lot of knowledge in this area. 🤣.


4.) 24 Aug 2021 13:43:39
Just heard on the radio that Saints have brought the lad in. Pity, he could have been an excellent addition to the u23s, and great prospect for the Club.


5.) 24 Aug 2021 18:18:40
georgey leave my lunchbox out of this lol.


6.) 24 Aug 2021 18:55:52
George - sorry, obviously so long ago I’d forgotten all about it.


 

 

23 Aug 2021 11:22:22
According to Phil Hay, Poveda looks to be heading out on loan, probably to Blackburn. That move would make perfect sense. The lad clearly has talent, and needs game time to aid his development. Obviously he’s at a stage where he needs to be playing senior football, and keeping him in the u23s would also reduce playing time for the new lads, and have the potential to dampen an otherwise positive and energised atmosphere among that squad. His development seems to have plateaued here, to the extent that Summerville has overtaken him. Hopefully he gets the loan move and uses it to really kickstart his career. If he does so, we could have a good player on our hands.

Clueless

1.) 23 Aug 2021 12:22:12
If it hasn’t been kickstarted by now then he’s going to be a nearly player, get him off the payroll he’s a Adrian 2:0.


2.) 23 Aug 2021 12:54:19
Definitely Martyn.


3.) 24 Aug 2021 03:51:40
Clue First thing you've posted I disagree with. Martyn is correct but wasn't correct when he said something similar about the boy Wilks. Poveda out of his depth in PL and he won't pull up trees in Blackburn nor dance on their cobbled streets. Talent yes but doesn't know what he's doing on pitch and zero end product.


4.) 24 Aug 2021 08:47:42
We’re is silks now George?


5.) 24 Aug 2021 09:07:55
Sorry to disappoint, George. You’ll have seen the quotes from Orta re seeing how Blackburn had helped Harvey Elliot’s development, and hoping that they can do the same for Poveda. Maybe I should have put the IF and COULD in capitals to stress my meaning in the comment above. Clearly it’s down to him to use this opportunity, to put some serious work into developing some end product. He needs to give his head a serious shake and realise he’s in danger of wasting his talent; stop thinking street football and orientate himself to the dimensions of the pitch instead. Maybe he’ll be inspired by fellow South American diasporant Ben Brereton Diaz. He’s got a season to work on it. In a way, he’s been put on notice - sort yourself out and there’s a way back. If not, you know what’s coming.


6.) 24 Aug 2021 13:00:46
Martyn He's at championship side Hull City as a 1 in 3 game goal scorer. Hardly Dom Poleon.


7.) 24 Aug 2021 13:03:12
Cluey You can put a fork in Poveda. He's League Two standard. There'll be no welcoming committee upon his return in 2022.


8.) 24 Aug 2021 17:23:19
He’s hardly Danny ings either George and quite a journey man for a lad his age.


 

 

 

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21 Sep 2021 23:39:16
Sounds like an interesting day for Dan James. His Son delivered in Manc this afternoon, pity he was born on wrong side of Pennines, but I guess DJs girlfriend will have been involved with the gynae teams over there, so best for continuity of care etc.

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21 Sep 2021 10:46:25
I see Klich has said Koch and Llorente are both very close to a return. I know there seems to be a narrative that both are very injury prone, so some may think, so what if they return ‘cos the next injury will be just around the corner.

Looking at Koch’s previous injury history, in the 4 seasons before he joined us he’d only had two injuries of more than two weeks, (18 days and 36 days) . The knee injury he picked up shortly after joining us was from a match situation that can and does happen to many players during any one season, and was not due to any pre-existing weakness, and a bruised pubic bone is another injury often picked up by footballers, especially during strength training.

Clueless

1.) 21 Sep 2021 11:16:45
Clueless, my only hope is that the two of them talk more! Make sure that one is fit when the other is wanting to be injured.

As they are both right footed international centre backs they can be a seamless fit for each other's injuries and both great mentors to the legend-in-waiting that is Struick.

We have been unlucky with them so far, but rather that sort of unlucky, were we have a few backup options, than Meslier being injured.


2.) 21 Sep 2021 11:32:46
Pressed send by mistake before finishing the comment above. Was going to say there is nothing in Koch’s injury record before or since joining us to suggest he is specifically prone to injury.

Moving on to Llorente, it is true that in 2018/ 19 he had 4 periods of injury, for a total of 122 days, or 15 matches. During that season he had surgery following a fracture of his fibula, and an ankle arthroscopy. In the previous 5 seasons he had a total of only 3 injuries, accounting for 58 days, missing only 7 matches, and in 2019/ 20 ( the season before he joined us he was injured only once, for 38 days, missing 8 matches, and starting 28, for most of which he played the full 90 minutes - suggesting he was fully recovered from his surgery. It has been suggested that the injuries since he joined us are indicative of his body taking time to adjust to the higher intensity of Prem football, and the even higher intensity of Bielsaball. Whether the previous surgery would make him more prone to muscle injury during this adjustment is presumably something Rob Price’s team will have considered during his medical.


3.) 21 Sep 2021 12:16:15
Axe - not just mentoring Pascal (Van) Struijk, but also Charlie (ton) Cresswell - who should start today v Fulham, and now Leo (-Inge) Hjelde (land) who’s settled in well already with the U23s and has previously had senior experience in the Scottish Prem. Obviously the latter is not of Prem standard, but not bad to be playing at that level when only aged 17. We definitely have some decent prospects coming through at CB.


4.) 21 Sep 2021 15:27:19
I'm pretty sure Koch was carrying carrying an injury when we bought him hence the low price. He may have aggravated it with us but I bet he already had an issue. We must have got him hoping it a) would go away in time or b) would be easy to fix. Anyway eventually Koch had to have an op on it and has struggled to get back to fitness since. Llorente also had poor records in previous seasons in the slower Spanish league so an accident waiting to happen imo.


5.) 21 Sep 2021 22:22:17
No Alf, Koch had a slight back injury towards the end of the season before he joined us, which kept him out of the penultimate game, but he came towards the end of the last game. Apparently he picked up a very slight injury in the first game v Liverpool which he was able to play on with, until the Chelsea game, where another knock significantly aggravated the problem, leading to his time out.

I’ve detailed Llorente’s injuries above, there was one poor season of injuries, which led to surgery. Very little before that season and nothing of significance the following one either, so not correct to say he had poor records previously - which would mean multiple previous seasons with problems.


 

 

18 Sep 2021 22:47:14
It’ll be interesting to see what side Bielsa puts out at Fulham on Tuesday. May well have changed his mind over the last week or so. With injuries mounting up, he might go with more u23s than originally planned, to help safeguard more first teamers for West Ham at the weekend.

Clueless

1.) 19 Sep 2021 07:38:02
I’m happy to go straight out against Fulham tbh.
Maybe play cooper, roberts, shacks, firpo, James. Rest the rest.


2.) 19 Sep 2021 07:46:15
It will indeed. Our intention earlier in the season was to field strong teams in the cup to see if we could make headway but like you say injuries and our results so far may have changed things. On the other hand if we field a string team and win it might be good for the mentality of the players and give them more confidence and belief for Wet Sham which looks to beacking somewhat of late.


3.) 19 Sep 2021 09:35:29
Tend to agree with you Aus, not too bothered about the Mickey Mouse Cup which hurts to say it as one who, when young, made a day of it. Watching ALL the run up to the game, the game itself and all the afters. Not for many programmes, but for this day, the front room curtains got drawn to get a better picture much to the annoyance of my mam who said all the neighbours will think someones died!
A repeat of last year but our main aim is to stay in the Prem.


4.) 19 Sep 2021 12:36:15
I’d quite like to see Drameh get a chance at RB, with Shack moved to CM. Hopefully Cresswell will get a chance from the start, the way things are going, we may need him in the Prem soon, and going up against Mitrovic would be decent preparation for what may be to come.

It’ll be interesting to see who plays at DM, probably shouldn’t risk KP, but all three of the presumed first team backups (Struijk, Koch and Forshaw) are out. Seem to recall Klich played there on one occasion, though will any distinction, part of a second half, and neither Dallas nor Shack would seem particularly suited either. The U23 options would seem to be Jenkins, Kenneh or Bate, though it may be a little early for Bate in terms of his Bielsaball education. Of course he might just think, sod it, and play KP anyway as our game revolves around that role, and if we are to have multiple u23s elsewhere in the team, to give them their best chance to shine it would be best to have an experienced hand at the centre, holding it all together, for the first hour at least.


 

 

18 Sep 2021 09:57:38
Yes, our finishing was not good last night, BUT bottom line is we were once again shafted you the officials last night. Everyone except they could see that Dan James was fouled in the box. Not usually one to quote the words of Gary Neville, but as he said, in real time (as Dean would have seen it) it looked a pen, and in slow motion ( as VAR should have seen it) it was a stonewall pen) . If that’s given, and if Bamford scored it, it would have been a completely different game. Less than 25 mins gone and Newcastle 2-0 down, the crowd were bad at 1-0, and would have completely lost it, with Bruce, Ashley and the players. It would ha e been a long way back for them. With the pen not given their players and crowd knew they’d got away with one, and thought it could be their night, both were very much lifted by that.

Conversely, we would have been buzzing at 2-0, and Bamford’s confidence would have been raised - he seems badly affected by his England experience. I’m pretty confident we’d have scored a few more by the end of the night. As it was, our players knew they’d been shafted again and lost focus, snatching at chances, headless in defence and once again giving the ball away needlessly.

It’s disappointing seeing people slagging off Dallas - we still don’t know what personal matter led to his withdrawal from NI duty, and it may be that whatever it was has taken the edge off his performance.

There seems to be some criticism of Dan James, even to the point of saying Tyro offered more when he came on. The lad has only just signed for us, and had just one week training with the squad and under Bielsa. Even so, he should have got an assist in his first full game, through the pen that wasn’t given, and hared back to make a perfect and potentially goal saving interception in our own box just as Willock (with two other Leeds players trailing in his wake and failing to get in a challenge) was about to shoot. No other player in our squad would have had the pace to get back and make that challenge - and his evident determination to do so should be recognised.

I was surprised that we didn’t make more effort to target Ritchie once he’d picked up that early yellow. Raphinha could certainly have tried to run him more often, to induce a second yellow, and it seemed Bielsa possibly missed a trick by not putting Summerville on that side when he came on, to run him ragged.

Putting Summerville on the left gave Firpo a third wing partner in just one game (his fourth overall) which can’t have helped him as he continues to get to grips with the system. And yes, of course they scouted Firpo, rather than just picking him up ‘cos he was playing for Barca. They’d been following him since he was at Real Betis, where he was playing very well.

One positive is that Rodrigo had a decent game. Let’s hope he is able to build on that. It was also good to have Klich back in. I don’t think we had previously been made aware that his absence was c.v. related. Also a positive that we didn’t actually lose the game, which could have been very damaging, particularly with injuries seemingly continuing to stack up.

Clueless

1.) 18 Sep 2021 12:36:05
A well balanced post Clu


Mike Dein (sheepishly looking away after observing the blatant penalty) and VAR were a disgrace, more stains on the current lack of integrity of the EPL. It has never been so bad/ corrupt,

In the 90s and early 2000s the refereeing in the 1st division and then EPL was generally very good : Leeds certainly got a lot of penalties each and every season.


2.) 18 Sep 2021 12:39:14
Fair point too about Dallas re his personal circumstances

and he deserves plenty of patience as the previous 2 seasons he has been one of our best players.


3.) 18 Sep 2021 13:35:02
Agree with lots of your post clue, but not about the players heads dropping because they had been shafted

For me that's an excuse for the poor play in the final third . We have been devoid of creativity up there for a fair while and saying the lads head dropped over an event is wrong.

Anyways we move on and we all hope the same hopes for next game . ALAW.


4.) 18 Sep 2021 14:59:50
In simple layman’s terms, we failed to take our chances and we failed to control Saint-Maximins. Some great saves by Meslier, going to be one of the best.


5.) 18 Sep 2021 16:21:04
Chris - I didn’t say our player’s heads had dropped, but rather that they lost focus. Up to that point, our play had almost been back to the kind of level we came to expect last season, more focused and purposeful. After that decision clarity of decision making seemed to descend to the level we had seen to date this season. Not making excuses for them, as that shouldn’t have happened whatever occurred in the match.


 

 

15 Sep 2021 10:14:12
It’s official, again. The football authorities are anti-Leeds.

Former referees state categorically that Pascal’s challenge was not worthy of a red card. Harvey Elliott himself said it wasn’t a red card challenge. Heung-min Son had his red card overturned last season for an almost identical incident.

But no, Pascal Struijk plays for Leeds United, so the red card stands.

Clueless

1.) 15 Sep 2021 10:35:48
Ed - any chance you could do one of your excellent articles about the times the football authorities have shafted our great Club. Though I guess it might take a book, rather than an article, to do the subject justice.

Actually, there has been a book about it - No Glossing Over It, by Gary Edwards, but that only covers the period up to the 2007/ 08 15 point deduction. So, any chance you could do an article on the period since then. There should be plenty for you to get your teeth into.

{Ed001's Note - that sounds like a really interesting idea actually. I have added that to the to do list. Maybe a comparison to how Derby gets treated when they regularly ignore rules? Just to show that it is not normal to get so many punishments, it helps to have a comparative of how someone else gets treated.}


2.) 15 Sep 2021 10:46:43
Clu, this is no surprise, anti Leeds fervor comes to the surface yet again, I believe these knocks that are meant to weaken us, make us stronger.
We are Leeds United.


3.) 15 Sep 2021 11:05:37
As I expected the anti Leeds is stronger than ever.


4.) 15 Sep 2021 11:11:10
Yet again FA show wat a joke set up they are
Any chance of an explanation to why Sons was rescinded but Pascals wasnt
Even young Elliot said no red card, in fact even Gobby said on talksport never a red
MOT.


5.) 15 Sep 2021 11:02:45
Cheers Ed. Derby comparison is a great idea.

{Ed001's Note - they are the obvious example of a team that could bury opponents on the pitch mid-game and receive no punishment.}


6.) 15 Sep 2021 11:54:22
of course the FA cannot explain how they have gone against the Son precedent :

how can it be allowed that the FA announces a ruling decision on an appeal without publishing any reasons : bent farcical not fit for purpose FA needs disbanding.


7.) 15 Sep 2021 12:24:43
Absolutely no surprise with the FA decision on not recinding the red card, Hard to argue the fact that there is a definite Anti Leeds bias with them. When Harvey Elliott himself calls it as an accident and not a foul, more class in that 18 year old young man then all them stuffed suits at the FA. They are a disgraceful old boys club, Hard not to feel aggrieved as a Leeds fan over the years at some of the unjust treatment we have received when the likes of clubs like Derby get treated differently. He interesting to see when another incident like this happens to any other club not called Leeds, what the outcome will be.


8.) 15 Sep 2021 14:06:08
Surely the FA itself, and the members of its various committees and panels etc should also be bound by Rule E3 (1) of the FA Rules and Regulations with regards to improper conduct and bringing the game into disrepute. There has been a very clear breach of that Rule in the FA’s decision on this red card.


9.) 15 Sep 2021 15:28:36
Hear hear Clu
LUST should start an online petition against the FA on numerous unfair decisions against Leeds including this one I'd sign all of them in a flash

Also a petition against the FA should be presented to the FA by LUST other Leeds groups in person at Lancaster Gate

Enough is enough.


10.) 15 Sep 2021 15:28:46
Clueless can you now transfer your sign in name to the appropriate place at Lancaster gate.


11.) 15 Sep 2021 17:14:08
Mez - not sure how that would help, as the FA left Lancaster Gate quite a while ago - moving to 25 Soho Square, only to relocate again to Wembley Stadium, perhaps so the postman wasn’t sure where to deliver all the forwarded complaint letters.

But on a serious note, I’m not sure I want to give up my sign in for that bunch of @$$#0€$.


12.) 15 Sep 2021 17:40:10
Stand corrected clue, still a bunch of bellends just in a different location. Maybe we should snub the FA cup but then again I think we've been doing that for awhile anyway.


13.) 15 Sep 2021 23:40:40
Or maybe we could try winning the FA Cup, just so they’d have to hand us something we wanted, rather than a ban, fine, points deduction, etc etc.

No, forget that, if we got anywhere near winning, they’d find some underhand way of stopping our progress.


 

 

 

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16 Sep 2021 15:27:59
Saw some reports suggesting Barcelona wanted a loan deal - presumably because they’re strapped for cash at the moment. Other reports saying Bielsa wanted Rodrigo to stay here.

Either way, if it was last minute, we wouldn’t have had time to bring in a replacement, either at striker or CAM. So, despite his patchy form, accepting the deal would have weakened our squad depth further.

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14 Sep 2021 15:59:41
I know, AGM. I was going to say that. The Leeds element of the case would stick out like an exceedingly sore thumb if the decision stands, given the precedent would seem to have been set by a very similar case involving Heung-min Son last season.

Alf - According to Leeds Live, the decision should be known tomorrow at the latest.

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10 Sep 2021 08:59:23
Jay-Roy Grot clearly had the physical attributes to be a real handful at Championship level, being built like the proverbial brick s#*thouse and with a decent turn of speed. He’d been capped in the Dutch age group sides and already had a season in the Eredivisie, with 17 starts and 5 goals in the regular season and another goal in a relegation playoff match - not bad for an 18 year-old who’s manager kept switching his position, principally between RW and CF, but also with a game each at LW and as a secondary striker. Fiorentina had tried to sign him before he came to us, but couldn’t agree a fee with NEC, so overall he seemed like a decent prospect. Having joined us with the season already started, he apparently really struggled to settle with the move away from Holland, and getting dogs abuse from some of the fans probably didn’t help the lad. Having not managed to put a marker down in that first season he was probably never going to be able to make the cut when Bielsa whittled down the squad. He may have developed under a different manager here, but obviously we’ll never know.

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01 Sep 2021 17:59:44
One of the things DJ said after signing was that he was looking forward to learning every day. That could be seen both as reflecting positively his expectations of the coaching environment he’s joining under Bielsa, and casting a little shade on the one he’s just left.

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31 Aug 2021 17:55:42
Alf, as you said yourself - they were recruited to bolster our Championship side - their moving on does nothing to support your contention re resources going on buying for the U23s. Had we still been in the Championship, they would have been decent squad players for us.

The lads we’re buying now are recruited to slot into our Prem side in the next year or two, and makes total sense. If we waited until they were Prem ready, we’d be paying £10-25m+ for each of them, and we’d still need to mould them to Bielsaball before they could be fully effective for us.

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21 Sep 2021 22:37:44
Well, we made it through, just. How was Summerville the only player yellow carded. The commentary made it sound like Fulham should have had a few booked too, with Joe Bryan having been described as seem to kick Summerville into the air early on, and Cresswell was said to have been caught while in the air. To be fair, KP was also said to have gone straight through one of their players. Good that Gelhardt and McKinstry got sub appearances, and also scored in the penalty shootout. That should do their confidence a power of good. The Fulham fans were chanting ‘who are you’ at Gelhardt as he was taking his kick, so he gave them some when he’d smashed it into the roof of the net. They didn’t bother with McKinstry.

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21 Sep 2021 22:22:17
No Alf, Koch had a slight back injury towards the end of the season before he joined us, which kept him out of the penultimate game, but he came towards the end of the last game. Apparently he picked up a very slight injury in the first game v Liverpool which he was able to play on with, until the Chelsea game, where another knock significantly aggravated the problem, leading to his time out.

I’ve detailed Llorente’s injuries above, there was one poor season of injuries, which led to surgery. Very little before that season and nothing of significance the following one either, so not correct to say he had poor records previously - which would mean multiple previous seasons with problems.

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21 Sep 2021 12:16:15
Axe - not just mentoring Pascal (Van) Struijk, but also Charlie (ton) Cresswell - who should start today v Fulham, and now Leo (-Inge) Hjelde (land) who’s settled in well already with the U23s and has previously had senior experience in the Scottish Prem. Obviously the latter is not of Prem standard, but not bad to be playing at that level when only aged 17. We definitely have some decent prospects coming through at CB.

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21 Sep 2021 11:47:35
For their whole handling of the situation, Wanderers may feel EFL let Derby run rings round them, prolonging the process so as to avoid penalty in-season (again) .

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21 Sep 2021 11:32:46
Pressed send by mistake before finishing the comment above. Was going to say there is nothing in Koch’s injury record before or since joining us to suggest he is specifically prone to injury.

Moving on to Llorente, it is true that in 2018/ 19 he had 4 periods of injury, for a total of 122 days, or 15 matches. During that season he had surgery following a fracture of his fibula, and an ankle arthroscopy. In the previous 5 seasons he had a total of only 3 injuries, accounting for 58 days, missing only 7 matches, and in 2019/ 20 ( the season before he joined us he was injured only once, for 38 days, missing 8 matches, and starting 28, for most of which he played the full 90 minutes - suggesting he was fully recovered from his surgery. It has been suggested that the injuries since he joined us are indicative of his body taking time to adjust to the higher intensity of Prem football, and the even higher intensity of Bielsaball. Whether the previous surgery would make him more prone to muscle injury during this adjustment is presumably something Rob Price’s team will have considered during his medical.

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