Leeds Rumours Archive August 23 2011
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23 Aug 2011 17:29:58
Ed, do you know if there is any truth in the Eric Lichaj to Leeds rumour? Or any other rumours? {Ed017's Note - Only 3 people can answer that Bates Grayson and Snodin lets watch this space
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Doubt it he played and scored for villa today
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My mate was talking with Snodin at a family do last week. Snodin says they are trying best to get Eric in from Villa but the stumbling block is Villa are saying we can do a season long loan but will pay all of his wages, he's on 25k a week We won't pay that, thats the problem. This is not a rumour, its 100% true.
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23 Aug 2011 18:22:19
SG hopes to lure Nyron Nosworthy before the transfer window closes - Nyron play RB and CB with the view of partnering Lees with Kisnorbo and Aidy at LB leaving O'Dea and Bromby on the bench for reserve
Source: Nial Quinn (Foxhills Country Golf Club) Surrey
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What a load of lies. Also have you seen nosworthy play he is rubbish even sheff united fans hate him.
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23 Aug 2011 18:40:45
People thinking we will get 5-8 million for Max Gradel (should he leave) are sadly mistaken. We will be extremely lucky to get 3 with only a year left on his deal. Good player but not as talented as Snodgrass, would be a much bigger blow to lose him.
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Far better player than snodgrass, has pace and can sometimes cross a ball unlike snodgrass
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DISAGREE Snodders can be lazy an most the time when crossing cant beat the first defender and has got less pace and less goals in him. Snodder should leave before max
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I have to agree Gradel is pacy, and has an eye for goal. He can lure defenders away, and create decent chances.
As much as I like Snodgrass, he does seem rather 'slow'. If things aren't going his way, it can seem like he becomes dis-interested. Yes, he can take a free kick, but is that enough?
I'd prefer to keep Gradel, and have Nunez on the left if Snoddy leaves
MOT - WMS
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Saying we wouldn't get no more than 3 million for gradel cos he's in his last year of his contract is stupid we should hold out for at least 5 million last year of contract mean jack look at the Nasri deal 26million he only had 1 year left
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HAHA comparing championship gradel to nasri. Dillusional
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23 Aug 2011 17:52:53
Gradel is not leeds united is he ? Lets cash in on him he is clearly showing he does not want to play for us I also think NUNEZ is a better player he has the same pace if not better than max The only thing us leeds fan's is worry about is where the money will be spent if we get 5 - 7 million for GRADEL think of the 3 quality signings that could be made with the ££££££££
Or if bate's decide's to spend on the ground this will cause massive problem's I feel with everyone involved in the club and especially us fan's
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Hes showed he doesnt want to be at the club he missed a penalty sunday and then played great he went on last night and changed the game?
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23 Aug 2011 16:37:58
is it me or did Gradel say he wanted to play for Leeds United 'for many more years to come' before the start of the season.
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Correct - he actually said it when he picked up the player of the year award at the end of season do.
Short term memory / long term financial gain.
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23 Aug 2011 16:37:49
From Mike Grellas FB page
"no human can promote himself, only God can promote you" -d.s.- ,,, in London
Possible Transfer Talks?
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Hopefully, feel sorry for the guy. Leyton Orient maybe?
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That tweet makes him sound a complete dickhead. certain footballers seem to be using the internet to prove to people their not morons but failing miserably.
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23 Aug 2011 16:32:27
Let Gradel go... He can be a f**king liability at times and if we get 4-5 million for him then hopefully Master Bates might spend some of the cash... As good a player as he is we also have Nunez coming through and he's chances are always going to be limited when Gradel's playing (plus we have Lloyd Sam as well)
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23 Aug 2011 16:17:03
i hear gradel wont be playing tonight as sg wants to rest him, and incase he is injured for the next league game, or is that just want we are meant to belive? have we accepted a bid?
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Bet you feel silly now. Reading into things were we?
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23 Aug 2011 16:14:27
just been speaking to my mate who is a donny fan while i qued for my ticket for tonights game at the keepmoat, he reckons brian stock is a target for leeds? any thoughts guys.....
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23 Aug 2011 15:50:20
Anybody else think that cashing in on Gradel around the 5-6 million mark would be in best interest of us? Nunez has proven he can step up and tbh Gradels head is clearly else where a missed penalty and a red card? we could use the money in places much more needed e.g defence, that is if we don't spend it on the stadium that isnt ours.. MOT
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Agree he clearly dosen't whant to be at leeds
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Nunez isnt no where near Gradel. I think hes a good player but not as good as everyone else seems to think
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Tend to agree with you mate, but would sg see any of the money? MOT
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Definately time to cash in. He could put a stop to the rumours if he wanted to stay; however he chooses not to. He can be a brilliant player when he feels like it but all too often is a liability- get some money in and let the likes of Sam and Nunez-who want to play for Leeds- take his place
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His hearts obviously not with Leeds United anymore as soon as he heard Prem clubs wanted him, you could see that in the west ham game. Get shut and get Watt.
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What one red card which was very debatable
and a missed pen doesnt give any reason to sell him and getting 5 million we wont it will be around the 2 mill mark
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I would accept £6 million,if Bates promised it was all going straight back into the squad
Get Santa Cruz on loan,buy Clingan,
top class centre half and full back,Give Nunez and Sam a chance to shine on the wing
Keep rest of cash for next transfer window
MOT
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If we sell max then we need another winger as we will only have sam left nunez is not a winger but has played well there so that could be 2 but what happens if sam or nunez gets an injury we have no one left. Max is 22 /23 loads of years left In him we should offer him a new contract just so he knows we want to keep him.
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Glad most of you agree, and yeah offer him a contract of what 20k which he wants? not going to happen, not sure he would invest it all but surely 2-3 million grayson would be able work some magic MOT
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Anybody who thinks we will get £5-7m for gradel are gonna end up dissapointed if he does leave. face facts - a championship player who has no premiership experience, a yeafr left on his contract and in the last 2 weeks has been sent off and missed a pen (although he shouldnt have been dismissed).
i can't honestly believe people are talking as high as £7m. if we get a bid between 3-4m it will get accepted im 95% sure of that. and we will be lucky, as a club to see £1m of that money
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If we get an offer of 4m we should grab it...Max is like Kasper he does not intend to re-sign unless we go up so don't let him run the clock down. Nunez has more class anyway
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We are giving gradel the chance to show how much he wants to play for Leeds before we offer him a new deal...negotiations take a long time too.
you can't say he doesn't want to play for Leeds anymore cause he obviously does otherwise he wouldn't have got man of the match after missing the pen at west ham.
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Think you'll find that Clayton got man of the match. Sell Gradel, play Nunez. Simples;)
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Nunez isn't as good as everyone seems to think, just because he's scored goals everyone seems to love him but he's all right footed. Admittedly he looks promising, but Gradel is better. Offer Gradel parity with our top earner, if he turns it down, ship him out, simple.
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23 Aug 2011 15:48:08
Let Gradel go to the highest bidder then let Nunez develop as he has so much to offer. We also have Sam as a winger so I don't think he will be missed. MOT
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His value is high, cos he scored 18 goals last season
No Becchio,Neither McCormack or Keogh will get a bag full of goals
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What nonsense you are saying.Max was equally as good as Adam Clayton on sunday and looks to be totally committed to our cause this season. If you keep making comments like this like other suppossed fans of ours Max might just decide to say stuff it and leave.
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23 Aug 2011 15:38:12
Max gradel To make a move to the premiership in January as we don't have time to re-invest the money now, saying this he will go for less money as his contract wil expire in 6months
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23 Aug 2011 14:41:09
leeds should loan chelsea midfielder josh McEAchan, hes on SSN saying he will have to go on loan due to chelseas new sighnings.
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Would be a quality signing if it happened very much doubt chelsea would allow us to get him though.
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Agree this would be a great signing but cant see it happening i would ofthought he would stay in the prem maybe QPR or Norwich
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Bates can't do deals with Chelsea would be a solid signing tho
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It would allow him to be closer to his girlfriend, Brooke Vincent from Coronation Street if he came to us
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23 Aug 2011 14:40:47
We might as well get rid of Gradel, he wants to leave you can tell on some of the press releases, including todays. SSN are even calling him a "want away" player. I rate him, i dont want him to leave but if somebody doesnt want to be here, lets cash in on them. If West Ham or Fulham come in with a 6-8 million pound bid, I would snap their hand off
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23 Aug 2011 14:36:31
Mikael Forsell will sign after tonights game and will play a part in thrashing Ips**t
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23 Aug 2011 12:22:46
SSN and dailymail reporting that Max Gradel has said that Fulham, West Ham and Leicester are after him
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2028999/Max-Gradel-chased-Fulham-West-ham-Leicester.html#ixzz1VqIwvtJu
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Its on the Fulham rumour site that they are lining up a 9.5 million pound bid for Gradel and Howson.
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The daily mail is the worst paper for football, but it is true this time, if he won't sign ( or we can't offer him what he wants ) then we should sell, he's class but we don't want anyone to rock the boat, if sg can get us another gem like clayton and another striker, cb with the cash would be great, nunez can replace max.
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That's not even a story that's just rumour, we all know a lot of clubs are after max. But if he does go then hopefully we can spend the money on players rather than the f***ing stands.
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I think Bates will sell Gradel. 5.5M will prove too tempting for a player in last year of his contract in my opinion. Beckford, Johnson and Kilkenny all went on frees. Bates will see this as financial revenge for losing those 3 players for nothing. Don't want to see Max go but it's inevitable. As for the destination, you can forget the Foxes and the Hammers. He's off to the Cottagers.
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Leicester? I guess their squad is paper-thin. I think they get mentioned with every player going, these days.
Same as ever, if a player doesn't want to be at LUFC, get rid.
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23 Aug 2011 11:21:38
SG has stated in local Leicester paper that Vassell is a definite target for him after he has fallen down the pecking order at Leicester. SG said it would be an honour to manage a proven premier league player and an ex international such as Vassell and hopes an agreement can be made shortly.
Wouldn't be a bad signing in my opinion, granted old, but a tank? certainly.
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He is Sh*t, i will be gutted if he comes. Would much prefer forsell, and we have Nunez, Keogh, McCormack and Becchio is only 3-4 weeks away. Pointless signing in my view
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Vasselll is no better than mccormack , keogh, somma,beechio. no thanks SG
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Utter rubbish. Why would Grayson talk to a local paper in Leicester. Also, Vassell started 1st game of season and got suspended. missed the next 3 matches as a result of this then started against Forest at the weekend. Wake up fella
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Stop talking bollocks please, some idiots seem to believe you.
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The only reason Vassell's played two games this season is because he's been banned, he's not going to leave Leicester, why would he come here? We're getting rid of most of our players, Bates is taking us back down at this rate...
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This is part of the max cradle return to leicester deal for sure
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Hes crap, thats a load of rubbish. If you remember he went to some Saudi Arabian team and even they didnt want him. The rumours site, not a joke site
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Ever think to yourself why he has slipped down the pecking order? He would be a dreadful buy for Leeds, we don't need other championship clubs cast-offs
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We had the chance to sign him for free at the beggining of last season when he was training with Leeds So why let him go when just to sign him a year later. but that Grayson for you
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23 Aug 2011 11:03:46
To be honest.... I dont know where SkySports Get their news from because santa cruse just isnt coming to us.. Only if city pay 99.9999% of his wages, then bates might be interested... Probably Not.
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The Santa Cruz rumours have quietened as of late. Silly season must be over.
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23 Aug 2011 10:43:55
Forests Mcgoldrick in a swap for Snodgrass?
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Get real, not a chance unless they give us £5mil aswell. your the second person to talk s##t and put this. another nots forest fan are you? stick to your own site if you have one and its rumours not bull s##t.
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Official: Robert Snodgrass will not be moving to another club, during the period of his contract. As for joining Nottm Forest, it would be a downward step for Robert and one he would simply laugh at. The lad McGoldrick might be of no use to Forest now, but he is not moving to Leeds Utd.
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What a load of crap, what about the 6 million on top of the exchange what a plonker
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I thought if put it on here just to see what you guys would say, I am a Forest fan, when I saw this on the Forest page I laughed, your best player for our Worst Couldn't give him away
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23 Aug 2011 08:40:52
The demonstrations and chanting will only stop when KB commits to securing the long term signatures of Gradel, Clayton, Snodgrass, Nunez and others in their final 1yr contracts......
The Morons just want assurance that your committed in taking our club forward and consolidating our best players who shouldn't walk for free - Beckford, Johnson, Kilkenny etc
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Yes but can you not hear the real Leeds fans chanting Leeds, Leeds Leeds over the top?
They are in a minority.
Ken might be frustrating at times, granted a lot of the time, but he's not stupid.
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Ken was right, these people ARE morons. He has already clearly stated that if they want more investment they should put THEIR money up. Where is that money?
My own advice is that if you don't like the way the club is being run, find one you do like?
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Agree it's a minority at present but the fans will need a scapegoat IF the results turn and interest in our best players come in thick and fast come the January window..... c'mon lads we all would work for 36 months rather than 12..
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Chanting anti bates does not make you a fake fan anymore than chanting leeds songs makes you a real fan. Its a difference in opinion in how the club is being run, the people who chant anti bates song pay the same money as the "real" leeds fans so have every right to voice their disapproval however they want
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"He has already clearly stated that if they want more investment they should put THEIR money up"
5th highest season ticket prices in the country, i think we already have put OUR money up
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KIlkenny was never offered a new contract,Leeds decided they could replace him with Clayton and I think you can safely say that's been the right decision.
Grayson wanted Johnson to stay but we were obviously miles apart on the valuation of the contract on offer and we were never going to keep Beckford once a Premiership club came in for him.
I'm sure Leeds would love to tie up every one of their top players long term but if the players are demanding ridiculous wages for our level or have simply decided they won't sign a new contract because they fancy a move to the highest bidder (Johnson) what are Leeds supposed to do?
The thing that has been totally ignored by the anti Bates Brigade is that the club (Bates) has so far this summer turned down substantial bids for all of our top players (Sndgrass, Gradel, Howson and Becchio), surely that's a statement of intent to our ambition or is keeping our best players not as important as splashing out a couple of million on new ones?
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Johnson & Kilkenny were simply woeful and Leeds Utd should be pleased that they have moved on to do nowt for another club. Nothing wrong with the rest of the post, but please don't make some players out to be what they simply were not.
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The minority of the Leeds Utd support, appear to stand by Bates no matter what he does, the fact they are completely ignorant of what the anti-bates campaign is about, is in itself quite concerning. Those same people probably thought Ridsdale was doing an excellent job, when he was in charge, simply because the team were in the Champions League and top five of the EPL, well look where that got us and it WILL be even worse once Bates goes, unless we can get him out NOW.
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I carnt believe you think our best players were the likes of Beckford,Johnson n Killkenny, Becks wo lazy n too big headed, Brads thought he wo betta than he actully is, Killa ok fo 5 yard passes n thats it..On the other issues ye our now TOP players need to be screwed down n NOT let go...
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Can you morons just f*ck off already and support the scum, 1 bit of bad news and your on KBs back
Come to reality, we are not a massive club anymore, I'd ask if you know the chant we're not famous but truth be told the protest was probably the first time you had been to eland road. They are building the club slowly, and in the right manner, we can't always keep top stars, fact of life And some are not as good as you think they are, it's only because you watch the games on tv when they pop up and score the odd wonder goal you think there that good, go to every game and you will see they were let go for a reason Rant over
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Best players Killkenny ? glad to see back of him couldnt tackle no pace and most ofg his passes went wayward. Clayton much better. Johnson a hard worker but squad player at best as for Beckford petulent and wanted to leave. Get behind the Team Management and Board MOT
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You can not get him out by chanting, he has already stated 'it's like water off a ducks back' the protest is, quite simply, divisive and pointless. As for the reference to Ridsdale, it was a member of the 'Bates out' contingent that recently stated 'we would be better off with Ridsdale and O'Leary back' on this very page
Don't get me wrong I feel tying Gradel up to a long term contract (Snodgrass has further year to go on his contract) is the way to go but, in truth, no-one on this site knows for a fact if discussions have taken place between Max's agent and the club or not and we will not know until something firm is decided
While I am not a fan of Bates he was spot on when he said that we are stuck with him. Let's put our energies into giving the players our full backing on the pitch and being the 12th man they need
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So Leeds under Bates are potentially in a worse position than we were when Ridsdale was in charge. We're now financially stable and returning a profit year on year, we have a young and improving squad that can only get better over time and, with a few sensible additions, are certainly capable of challenging for a play off place, how is that being in an even worse position now than being virtually bankrupt and constantly engaging in fire sales to keep our heads above water?
The anti Bates campaign, as far as I can see it, revolves around ticket prices and lack of ambition / investment. Tickets for Southampton, West Ham and Ipswich are/were all more expensive than available tickets at ER and we have turned down bids for all our major players this summer (ambition) and with just over a week of the transfer window open we are still actively looking to recruit (investment) so as far as I can see it it's purely down to a personal dislike of Bates rather than any fundamental flaws in the way the club is run.
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It's true that I would like to see all our top players tied down on long term deals but they fact is, the likes of Snodgrass hold no allegiance to the club at all.
They will move on to bigger and better things as soon as their contracts run out, it would take a huge pay packet to convince such people to stay.
Clayton & Howson are the most likely to stay as Howson supported Leeds as a kid and you can see the passion in Clayton by how he launched himself crying with happiness into the fans at scoring that leveller.
Bates Out protests are divisive, ridiculous and idiotic. The only people that are part of it are morons. That's why they keep chundering on when no one, especially Bates is listening.
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Total lack of clarity from the above posts - just remember that the assets of Leeds United are the ones who wear the shirt on a Saturday and not just the bricks and mortar of E.R and T.A... So from a business sense why allow what in my opinion is 20million pounds of football talent walk for free and rebuild again with unproven youth and loan signings. Until Bates is out we will never commit to getting out of the championship... PAY THE WAGES
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Pay the wages? So we pay Gradel £20k a week to make sure he stays, what happens then? Clayton, Howson, Becchio, Snodgrass, Kisnorbo, Nunez, Lees, White and anyone else worth their salt then walk into the office and say "if he's on £20k a week I want it too or I walk."
The wage structure we have in place is there for a reason, to ensure stability and to avoid the scenario where one player earns double what everyone else is on leading to unrest and obvious demands for parity from players and agents which would lead to financial melt down - again.
I shake my head some times, do you lot actually believe what you post or am I just missing the wind up?
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I agree with you saying that some players will want 20k a week but come on can you see Lees and aidy demanding 20k a week? jog on
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I take it at your work your MD is on the same wage as you..? lets be honest which club has everyone as equals in terms of pay... if there good enuff pay em simple as that
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The point is that Gradel being on 20k a week would mean Howson, Becchio, Clayton and Snodgrass, our other major stars, will want the same. The lesser players won't but the big ones will. We cannot afford to pay them all 10k more a week for the sake of keeping one player who isn't particularly consistent.
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23 Aug 2011 08:32:57
Looks like Gradel is on his way BATES has decided to go back on his word and cash in he will come out with the usual statement we offered him but he refused so we had no alternative butt to sell him
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Tbh I think selling would be the right deal for the club
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23 Aug 2011 08:09:04
Just read in paper that gradel has said about a move to west ham. ”If I keep playing well I'll end up somewhere better” in my opinion we shud sell him. He's obviously wanting a move so we shud give him 1. I think he'll end up at newcastle. Lacy leeds
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Gradel has said about a move to west ham. ā€¯If I keep playing well I'll end up somewhere better
What a lode of sh-it
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23 Aug 2011 07:13:34
Anyone know why the OS isnt availible??? Hoping it's a new signing, but I doubt that Bet uncle ken forgot to but his shillings in the meter.
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23 Aug 2011 00:55:43
Lichaj looking more likely by the day as not even reserve right back at Villa.
Hoping for a perm rather than a loan, though fee will fee . . . undisclosed.
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Whilst he was a good player for us, Tom Lees is doing very well and I think we should stick with him and the rest of our home grown players.
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Who gives a monkeys if a fee is undisclosed? if we sign someone then thats all that matters.
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I like Tom Lees but the fact is against clubs like West Ham he will get found out (like the Cole goal) i think someone like Eric Lichaj would bring both Lees and White forward and would give competition for them as i don't think neither Connoly, Bessone or Parker are very good role models for Lees and White.
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Lichaj would be a decent signing Tom Lees doing really well but inexperienced as for Connolly Get rid hopeless
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Lichaj is playing for Villa tonight in carling cup. fact.
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Played and scored against Herford maybe that will impress McLeish
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