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05 Jan 2025 13:51:48
The stake has just been well and truly driven into the ground on GK valuations! Spuds have bought a Czech U21 international from Slavia Prague for £12.5 million. Yes, he's had 12 clean sheets in 19 appearances this season, but Mes' stats are similar! Obvs there are lots of other factors involved, but that will be a benchmark for the Jan window.

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05 Jan 2025 14:18:59
What ever happens now is down to our Manager if he flips / or stays we can do nothing about it he will decide, he will be defined on results don’t get them he will be gone.

05 Jan 2025 14:20:12
Ckean sheets not the best metric Brighty, as this more reflective of whole defence, Burnley best defence in terms of clean sheets, followed by Blunts then us.

However we’re top in preventing shots against us meaning Illan faced the fewest shots of every keeper in the league, and yet his goals prevented against his expected to save ratio has been minus all season, hence his current overall rating of 18th in the division.

Compare this with Johannson who has been as high as +6.0 or Trafford at Burnley who leads the division in nearly every keeper stat.

Sure this feels like a death by a thousand cuts for Illan but his performances drive the statistics.

There’s still bargains to be had though Brighty there’s Jack Walton at Dundee United (English aged 26) valued at £450,000 and in the Scottish Premiership (ok not amazing) but his expected saves stat is +4.9 which is better than Jack Butland and Smeichel who
Obviously face fewer shots in stronger sides.

Irrespective of whether you believe in stats just watching yesterday’s game, and having a top of division keeper ranked 18th says there’s a serious issue.

05 Jan 2025 14:20:53
Collins cost Sheff Utd £1 million
Trafford cost Burnley £2 million

Both are far better than Mes and have far better gk stats

And Bright "Clean sheets" are a team's defensive stats. not solely on gk . far from it.

05 Jan 2025 14:23:37
You be dreamin Bright

No teamis paying even half of £12.5million for Meslier ??

£3 million tops

Keep it real.

05 Jan 2025 15:09:10
Trafford cost Burnley £15m (potentially rising to £19m) . Where do you get your stats Baz?

05 Jan 2025 15:21:56
From a previous post on here Brockers from a normally spot on very reliable poster. unless I misread it

Collins definitely cost 2 million though.

05 Jan 2025 15:24:57
Brockers

I meant Johansson £1 million ( not Trafford) ,

05 Jan 2025 15:54:40
Baz In that case it's also Stoke for you to cite correctly.

Massive error us not getting Viktor.

05 Jan 2025 16:30:53
Yep Georgey.

05 Jan 2025 17:42:41
Where the eff did I mention Meslier being valued at that Baz?
If anything, my mention of him was exactly to discredit the value placed on clean sheets / goalkeepers. And yes, I’m fully aware of the measurements used for measuring the success of “defensive units”, and recall having highlighted it many times, including just a few days ago.

06 Jan 2025 13:22:35
I don't think we would get anything for Meslier considering he is coming toward the end of his contract. I think if a reasonable offer came in to take him and he agreed to the move (with his current wages being a potential sticking point, along with his status in the team (i. e. the no1 keeper) we would let him leave on a free to clear up the wages and a squad position.





 

 

 
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