04 Sep 2024 09:43:01
Reading between the lines of the Premier League’s response to the Appeals Panel having upheld Leicesters appeal.
Does the decision set a precedent (as claimed by premier league) irrespective of Leicester exceeding the financial fair play spending threshold……they could not be punished as they were no longer under the jurisdiction of the EPL whilst in the Championship?
I mean it will be a miracle if I am interpreting this correctly, but it’s a huge loophole if this is correct and means we, other relegated teams should not have been restricted in their spending? Through fear of PSR sanctions.
I’m not advocating reckless spending here, and the summary is Leicester got away with carrying that overspent squad straight back up to the money pot…. but if you’re Everton or Forest supporters!
What the F!
{Ed001's Note - and it is not the first time they have done it either.}
04 Sep 2024 10:58:43
It’s very likely this loophole has been abused before, it’s been said that both Villa and Wolves were involved when relegated and promoted by the timing of their accounts. I don’t know why such a simple loophole was not resolved. It does make you think, wtf is going on here?
As to Leicester fans they won’t care one bit about what their owners are up to, quite rich that only 12 months ago they were prepared to sue Everton for doing exactly the same as them.
In my eyes Leicester and teams like them who have breached the rules and let’s get this right "cheated"
they are no different from say a sports person who takes performance enhancing drugs to gain an unfair advantage.
Bottom line is that Leicester FC are cheats!
04 Sep 2024 11:31:29
Again the ger view podcast explained it well
The prem is in fear of the big clubs saying I’m going to join super leauge, like a kid saying I’m going home and taking my ball with me
The smaller clubs allow it as they are scared of a premier league without the big clubs in it
So then the little clubs are useing the loopholes the premier allow for the bigger clubs.
They should just scrap the lot.
04 Sep 2024 13:02:53
I think Man City will be looking for potential loopholes as it’s very clear that the P&S rules are far from watertight.
Berm if these rules are scrapped then be prepared for Man City, with or without Pep will dominate the Prem for decades with their bottomless pit of money, same goes for Newcastle.
In fact you can call it the English/ Saudi Premiership because they will own it.
Don’t think the Super League will ever happen either, to take the fans away from the game and replace it with a largely corporate attendance it will simply fall apart.
04 Sep 2024 13:51:37
Good summary OP they’ve cheated end off, how they have the nerve to claim moving their accounts being filed on 13 months (thus avoiding punishment) was simply to bring the football club in line with the parent Company.
History will not forget and hopefully karma results in their immediate relegation, had no idea they had done this previously Ed!
{Ed001's Note - yes mate, the time they won promotion and then went and won the Prem a couple of seasons later, they completely ignored FFP then as well. Karma didn't exactly bite them as ignoring it, and being allowed to get away with it, led to their one and only Premier League title.}
04 Sep 2024 14:12:41
It is sickening how a club like Leicester can get away with very clearly with breaking the rules, while other clubs who commit the same offense are penalized.
Perhaps there will be no karma for Leicester in the immediate future but I think I know roughly what the opposition fans will be singing in the terraces.
I am a firm believer in what comes around goes around, it will present itself eventually.
04 Sep 2024 16:05:14
Man City will dominate anyway they’ve spent 1.2 billion on players since pep took over
Under the current system big teams can cheat and medium teams can bend same rules as bigger clubs. Meanwhile those in second tier get screwed
They can’t fix it otherwise the super leauge will become real so I think scrap it or punish just one club (city) but let the rest know it could happen to anyone.
04 Sep 2024 16:41:40
I say encourage the Super League Berm ?
Think it will happen anyway soon enough anyway especially with Barcas significant financial strife, but it would make for a really interesting and unpredictable EPL for a very welcome change.
04 Sep 2024 17:17:47
It is all wrong; points deductions, at the levels they are issued [or not in this case], are hardly a penalty for these teams. Everton and Forest basically wipe the slate clean with little real jeopardy. They should be relegated and not as a replacement for one of the "bottom three. " Wage caps, no fans and transfer embargos should also be imposed.
Plenty say well its not the fans fault, but hey they are happy enough when their team is buying players they can't afford, winning matches that they shouldn't be. Perhaps teams might have a lot more respect for their fans in other circumstances. As draconian as it sounds, managers of said teams, should be struck off for a period [like a director of a company acting improperly]
If you think about it, the three teams above Leeds in the relegation season, i. e. Everton, Leicester and Forest, all essentially cheated. Villa were basically cheating when they were promoted, as were Leicester at the time.
The ramifications for the teams around them are potentially immense. Had Leeds not been relegated, we would have had another £150M turnover last year, none of the "loan clauses, " would have ever come to the light of day and all that crap that followed; likewise, this season, we wouldn't have been losing our best players; this is where the powers that be, need to understand the real impact of what these teams are doing and how it not only distorts the offending team, but it questions the whole integrity of the competition.
{Ed001's Note - I agree with you. It is supposed to be about sustainability, so they should have to have caps and transfer embargoes to ensure they return to within the allowed limits. That should be automatic and should apply no matter whether teams are relegated or promoted anywhere within the football pyramid - so long as it is within the English FA's structure.}
04 Sep 2024 17:38:24
Super leauge will be awful for the prem as it is hugely devalued if the big six leave which is why little clubs put up with big clubs cheating.
I think it’s wrong look at Liverpool and arsenal who play by the rules to be chested by city and there over rated manager pep who I can’t stand.
If they uh ooo o punish city big five will be happy and then everyone plays by the rules
Remember you only have to punch the biggest bully.
04 Sep 2024 21:53:47
Bielsa sh! te and Pep overrated. My god ?♂️?? heard it all now.
04 Sep 2024 22:19:30
I’m actually surprised Newcastle seem to be staying within PSR. So far anyway.
Good point that the Pool n Arsenal have respect for the rules too.
04 Sep 2024 22:26:54
Just read this on twitter about Chelsea with another novel way to circumvent PSR. Per ESPN
"Exclusive: Premier League clears Chelsea's £76.5m sale of two hotels to a sister company in a deal which aids their compliance with PSR. Sale was being assessed for "fair market value" but that process has now concluded. "
Utter sh! tshow.
05 Sep 2024 06:43:00
Dill your final sentence sums it up for me . very disappointed by football ( authorities) with yesterday's news . aimo.
05 Sep 2024 06:47:16
Dikl in Bermo World.
KP is pony, Bielsa is sheite, Pep is overated
Neil Harris is best thing since sliced bread
Tony Cascarino best striker on planet
Warnock and Farke better than Shankley.
05 Sep 2024 07:38:42
All teams need to do is get a half decent contract lawyer to go through the legalese and see what loophole to exploit. The world is their oyster.
05 Sep 2024 08:13:14
Maybe there is a loophole in the transfer deadline laws and we can buy all year round.
05 Sep 2024 11:23:31
Baz kp is shi@e
Pep is for me highly over rated klopp went toe to toe with him having spent around 800 million less
Belisa is useless match day manager
Farke and warnock are two best managers this leauge has ever seen (unlike bubs they don’t need to do end 45 million in one season to get promoted)
Harris is decent as what he does
Shankly was a legend and all time great, up there with busby, sir alf and clough.
05 Sep 2024 12:58:51
Mo mention at all for the pretty good Tony Cascarino Berma.? .
You do know he played for your Millwall mob for2 to 3 seasons and was frankly far too good for them.
Before moving on to have very good success with proper clubs.
05 Sep 2024 13:10:13
Farke Berma? . he had literally a champ cheat code of £140 miĺlion pounds of forward talent Summèville, Rutter, Gnonto, Danny James, Piroe and even Bamford who scored 9 goals
You do realise that FOUR of Farkes six seasons in England have been failures
Mid table Champo season
Flunked promotion season
And two relegations
Best manager? ?
05 Sep 2024 13:32:32
Farke and warnock are statically the best managers so even you can’t argue but I’m sure you will
And of course I know Tony, my uncle was mates with him and I went to school with his niece.
Remember around bermondsey I’m quite a face bit like how your famous in this group only dare I say I’m confident I’m a bit more popular in real life.
05 Sep 2024 14:12:34
Bielsa has the highest win percentage in the championship. Of all time. Better than Farke Warnock Harris Big Sam and whoever else you can think of.
05 Sep 2024 14:40:44
Not even famous 5 bermo. Maybe 2.
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05 Sep 2024 14:43:40
You have ' Quite a face ' you say Berma?
Hmmm I have seen your recent online video interview Berma re your latest movie . what a handsome and humble cheeky chappy you are! . promise ?.
05 Sep 2024 14:45:25
Lmao Corky . Berma I don't need to disprove again your fantasy stats. Corkster has done so.
05 Sep 2024 17:45:18
Not trying to disprove anyone just putting the facts out.
05 Sep 2024 19:35:14
Bermo, just to point out your hypocrisy. You put Klopp on a pedestal for spending less money and by default implying he had an inferior squad than Pep and Citeh. You're saying he overachieved with an inferior side. But Bielsa had an objectively worse team that got us to the prem and all the time we were in the Prem than Farke had last season, but he's sh! te?
Interesting that one overachieved and is praised and one massively overachieved with a pretty poor team, yet he's called sh! te. Lmao, make no sense you, mate.
And if money was the only contributing factor then Man U would've won a few titles since their last one as they've spent sh! tloads ove those years an all. Pep is clearly a very talented manager (as is Klopp) Let's have it right here.
And Corky with the mic drop, haha.
05 Sep 2024 19:46:41
Not sure about Belisa just know that statically farke has the most points per game and warnock has the most promotions and know Belisa spent more getting leeds promoted than a lot of premier league teams soent…45 million in one season. Not an achievement in my book not when others do the same on 10% if that or less.
And baz when a Londoner says a face it don’t mean pretty it means people know who they are and respect them… hence you’ve watch my interview and I ain’t the foggiest what you look like.
05 Sep 2024 20:44:40
I only watched a couple of minutes of your interview Berma .