16 Oct 2021 22:48:06
Guys. We have differing perspectives on here. We all recognise that, but please quit being childish, and calling people out when things go the way that allow you to emphasise your points of view. There is no need for it. It makes it sound as though you are pleased we lost, as it helps you to say "I told you so. " Let's not lose any more good posters due to bitching, eh? MOT, yeah?
16 Oct 2021 22:57:43
Brighty no one is pleased we lost end of.
16 Oct 2021 23:14:36
Bright, I am going to be totally non biased here with you, it's very strange that the moral high ground on this forum ALWAYS seems to be with the (all's fine we are more knowledgeable camp ) life teaches us that not everyone agrees or gets along with each other .
That's fine by me, and I bet countless others on here, what today and now a good few other days this season have confirmed is, what us ( doom + gloomers ) had been saying for a fair while is now starting to look correct . I take zero joy in the current state of our squad and the current outlook, but what I do not like is the way the narrative seems to be 1 point of view seems to be the only ( knowledgeable + correct 1 ) ,
That's what irks us, UNDERSTAND that others have a point of view that differs from others . But it always seems that the ( all's fine) camp are the 1,s who say oh sod this I am sick of ye moaners I am leaving the forum
Sometimes it's okay to say I WAS WRONG .
If this season turned out the opposite from what I thought it was going to be I would have NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER SAYING I BALLSED UP MY ASSUMPTIONS .
Others seem hell bent on never saying same thing.
16 Oct 2021 23:32:26
Very well stated Chris I could not put it better.
16 Oct 2021 23:52:25
Yes, it was a very poor performance, and yes we probably all have concerns about the form shown by Tyro and Rodrigo, and yes we would all like a bigger squad. Yes, we’re probably all concerned that our next opponents Wolves will be lifted by their late comeback win at Villa, and that Leicester also seem to be finding some form three weeks before their visit to Elland Road. Yes, most of us in our darkest moments probably fear that Norwich will somehow manage to get their first Winn of the season against us.
So yes, we are probably all concerned by our start to the season. But anyone who thinks the answer is to show Bielsa the door needs to give their head a good shake. If you think Raphinha will be wanting to leave now, with Bielsa here, how much more would he want to leave if Bielsa were to go? Who exactly would you be expecting/ wanting Bielsa to be replaced with? There needs to be a strong positive reaction to this latest setback- and you can be sure that all inside the Club will already be working on that. It’s to be hoped that the fans continue to get behind the team and Club management next Saturday, as if anything will sink us, it’ll be the fans turning - another sure fire way to speed Raphinha out of the door.
17 Oct 2021 09:02:36
Oh right Clue, so no it's the fans who will make Raph leave, not the lack of proper additions which the next team he will go to will have plenty of depth .
The more pertinent question you need to ask yourself is, why has it come to this? A paper thin squad and the poor purchasing / lack of key positions of players recently .
Maybe you might find a more balanced answer by being totally honest with yourself to the above questions .
And for the record, I don't want biesla to go.
17 Oct 2021 09:13:59
Clue, as you say we probably all have concerns about certain players and our start to the season, I use this forum to voice mine as my missus doesn't really like football and I don't have a dog to kick.
And for the record, I'm not saying sack bielsa, just that his stubbornness winds me up at times. Coaches and manager's move on eventually, either by choice or not, his tenure at Leeds certainly out of my control.
As for players like Raphinha, it's not the fans who will decide his exit, speed of or timing.
17 Oct 2021 21:45:43
I’ve not read everything in response. There is no high ground. No one here has the high ground. Let’s just stay with chat, and bants, eh?