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02 Jun 2021 12:56:37
1) Overrated managers/ coaches

Step forward Carlo?

Carlo Ancelotti may have won 3 Champions Leagues albeit of course with major rich big clubs, but is he is really all that as a manager/ coach ?

When push came to shove he appeared incapable of improving a lesser team such as Everton and surprise surprise he jumped first chance he got ( Real Madrid yes, but for a second time? Shame on you Carlo) .

And wasnt he sacked at Napoli.

Would Carlo achieved what El Magico had done at Leeds taking and transforming virtually the same group of players from 15th in championship to 9th in EPL in 3 years?

Would he have heck # OVERRATED Carlo

2) Overrated players

Step forward Mason Greenwood?

Nominated on the 6 man shortlist for Young Player of the Year.

Not really sure what he has done to deserve that accolade. Pretty sure if he played for say a less fashionable team like Vile or Southampton he wouldn't be anywhere near that top 6 list.

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02 Jun 2021 13:47:27
Couldn’t agree more! Especially in regards Greenwood. Would the pundits be lavishing him if he played for Newcastle or Southampton?

02 Jun 2021 13:53:08
BV. ouch

Overrated, bit harsh on both the above.

Ancelotti has proven himself time and again. Admittedly he has been at top class clubs but in itself that leads to presdures that not many other manager have to deal with. He is expected to win things. He is expected to man-manage some of the best talent (biggest egos) in the world.
Bielsa has had it easy by comparison. He came to an underperformed team so expectations were limited. Our squad was full of journeymen. Those that bought in have flourish, those that didn't (Pontus) were discarded without too much fuss.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love what Bielsa has done for us, but Everton looked better once Ancolotti got in charge. Barring injuries to key players (James for one) they would have done better. DCL has a revelation

I even think Greenwood will come good. but not whilst he is an immature boy in an overpampered club.

02 Jun 2021 14:06:22
Poor axe
Everton are crap now then and next season.
In fact. I think they may go down.
Everton and Newcastle are so boring. I struggle why others can’t see this.
I refuse to watch them unless against us.

02 Jun 2021 14:52:42
Benitez is the most overrated manager ever
Living of his champions league win in the noughties
Dont get why clubs keep appointing him.

02 Jun 2021 15:12:33
Axe I take your points re him handling the pressures of managing a big club.

As for your claim that Carlo improved Everton . Did he really?
Everton finished a deeply unimpressive 10th, were in a slump in the final third of the season.

Watching the increasingly perplexed Carlo at his press conferences, it seemed he had no answer for Everton's malaise.

No surprise at all that he jumped ship at first opportunity. For me he failed therefore at Everton and ( big ) doubts over his true abilities arise.

02 Jun 2021 16:20:16
How on earth is Meslier not in the young player nominees?

02 Jun 2021 18:40:12
Agreed Canada

I bet Hart was nominated when he did 6 clean sheets.

02 Jun 2021 21:23:55
He is on the list.

02 Jun 2021 22:24:37
Not on the list of 6 I saw, I think it was Foden, Greenwood, Sako, Alexander Arnold, Mount and someone I can't even remember.



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