13 Aug 2020 16:04:45
What is stopping Ben White from submitting a transfer request and move to Leeds with Radz paying Brighton what he thinks Ben is worth rather than paying the money what Brighton thinks they can screw us for.
13 Aug 2020 16:36:20
Exactly PLAB nail hit on head!
Nothing is stopping him! .
His continued inaction on submitting a transfer request (for nearly 2 weeks ) says it all about BW and his agent true intent.
Time for Leeds United to swiftly move on from Brighton, BW and his agent!
13 Aug 2020 17:49:16
As far as I understand it, a transfer request is just a letter saying that he wants to leave. It carries no legal weight and so can just be ignored for the club but can carry the threat of financial penalty to the player. Brighton have a policy of turning down requests because if the club wanted to sell then a request wouldn’t be needed.
What White has done supposedly is turn down two new contracts so he is making his feelings clear in another way.
I think it’s a difficult situation and important opportunity for the player as well. Let’s see what Chelsea and Liverpool do, still plenty of time before the window closes. I suspect that White will be a professional, get his head down and do well in pre season training which is why Bielsa rates him so much and will make Brighton want to keep him more.
13 Aug 2020 18:50:25
Spanish. I like your posts a lot but on this particular point I disagree
turning down 2 new contracts is not a real sign of intent, just playing his cards close to his chest waiting for the next improved financial offer etc now, in 6 months or in 1 year and also seeing what else must materialise down the line
But handing in a transfer request now is a CLEAR sign of intent . i.e the player is NOT happy at the club now . the player wants to move from the club NOW. not in 6 months or 1 year down the line .
I don't believe that Brighton keep unhappy players . very few clubs do as it affects morale of the squad for starters.
13 Aug 2020 19:13:22
You going to pay him the money he would lose from putting in a transfer request Baz?
Most players who are sold without putting in a request get a payout as part of the deal (remember Alan Smith turning his down when were were in financial trouble! ) .
13 Aug 2020 20:12:34
Yes Canada indeed there is a payout to a player as part of the deal having not put in a transfer request .
And that is exactly tbe point I am making BW and I expect his agent even more so principally interested in the money only it seems not the player development
. BW is going to make a fortune in his career regardless
I am sure BW can more than handle not receiving a payment if it meant a move to a club that would really develop his game
# money money money is king.
13 Aug 2020 20:24:49
Bazooka, from memory Brighton haven’t granted a written transfer request for 5/ 6 years and there have been a few. It’s their policy which also discouraged them as no point doing it.
Also I think you play down not agreeing to two new contract offers which presumably means turning down better money and a longer contract. No player knows what will happen tomorrow, his career could be over or he has a crap start to the season. It’s a bold move for a player to reject what I would imagine are much better financial terms given his last deal was negotiated after a league one loan and he has never played a league game for Brighton.
I think this one still has a few weeks and possibly a few more offers to run.
13 Aug 2020 20:44:11
Interesting points Spanish
Curious to know which Brighton players, Brighton have turned down transfer requests in the past 5 or 6 years?
because if a player really wants out it is normally very disruptive to a club to keep him. I can't believe those Brighton players that had rebutted transfer requests remained at Brighton much longer than 6 months maximum a year thereon .
Leeds have had plenty and they all left pretty sheepish Saiz being the most recent.
13 Aug 2020 21:08:01
I think it's likely the agent makes more money from a transfer than not, so of course he wants the move.
Yes he should make the deal the best he can for himself and BW, but no transfer won't be it!
13 Aug 2020 21:33:14
Maybe he is hoping Liverpool come in for him. English champions, Jurgen Klopp and probably a load more money than we could afford.
13 Aug 2020 22:42:40
Bazooka. I think (maybe wrong) both their current centre halves (Donk and the other chap) have both put in transfer requests in the past, both denied and they got on with the job without disruption, so I don’t think Brighton fear turning them down.
No accusations or blame should be measured at BW, he has to do what is right for him, and he is doing so with integrity, and it is Brighton who hold all of the cards!
I hope he comes but if not, I wish him all the best and we get someone else equally as good, there are other alternatives, well I hope so because I think we need 2, one to replace Coops, I don’t believe he is good enough for the Premiership.
13 Aug 2020 22:55:39
Bazooka,
“Lewis Dunk, Dale Stephens and Elliott Bennett have handed in transfer requests to Bloom previously and all three have been rejected. Not since the departure of Leonardo Ulloa for £8m to Leicester City in the summer of 2014 have Brighton sold a player they wished to keep. â€
From an article looking at where White might end up playing football next year. Just think with their boss, handing in a written doesn’t really work although I guess all at the club know what he wants to do.
14 Aug 2020 07:50:12
Spanish and MG interesting and informative thank you. So the Brighton owner Tony Bloom really does have iron clad control over ( most of ) his players.
Interesting that it was a non Brit Ulloa that last got his wish to leave and the 3 Brits did not.
Fair comments from both of you about BW and as such I have a tad revised my opinions about him accordingly.