09 Mar 2020 10:51:03
Revie v Bielsa? Which is the best?
Perhaps not so many of you remember Revie, I grew up in his era and had great admiration for him and the team
Attention to detail-Both of them are definitely our best managers when it comes this, and difficult to split them, very few can rival them
Brand of football- Bielsa definitely better, more exciting and positive, Revie's system was sometimes a bit tedious
Results- Of course Revie wins here, but if Bielsa stays for a while?
Aggression- This is the controversial one! As we all know under Revie we got ( unfairly) the name of "Dirty Leeds", but I'm sure many would agree it would be better to be known for a "Clean " brand of football, which Bielsa's system provides
Other criteria?
09 Mar 2020 11:47:47
Spleeds, there really is no contest mate, they are also very different.
09 Mar 2020 12:21:10
Two different games then and now. For instant we don’t play with a pigs bladder filled with sand anymore and players don't get paid 2 shilling and 40 woodbine and a token for a gallon of mild a week so it’s incomparable.
09 Mar 2020 14:31:40
Purely on the fact we've won nothing yet, he's in 3rd place!
09 Mar 2020 15:31:43
Unfortunately Bielsa hasn't won anything yet. In addition the Leeds team under Revie also played some scintillating football and actually had strikers who knew how to score. Midfielders also could bag quite a few as well. I like watching the Bielsa team even though they are frustrating at times but you can't compare at the moment. Current team playing in Championship, and can struggle to get a result at times when well on top. The Revie team usually won when on top. That's what happens when you have the likes of Clarke, Jones, Lorimer, Gray, Giles scoring and Charlton and Hunter shoring things up at the back. Revie brought them through from the 2nd division, the academy and some shrewd transfers. If Bielsa can do that- good on him. Wilkinson also has done better. Let's wait and see.
09 Mar 2020 16:11:00
come on even putting belisa in the same breath as the don is more premture than a horny boy on prom night.
Belisa hasn't got us up yet, if he does he will of done alright but still not as good as many others who have done better (wilde is first to spring to mind)
if/ when we go up, then belisa would have to get us in europe leagues to be considered in same breath as the don and then our greatest ever manager wilko.
09 Mar 2020 18:07:07
Wilde? When has he managed us?
09 Mar 2020 19:10:04
wilde hasn't but my point is for us to put belisa in the same breath as don means wilde is much better than the don (which he is not) but must be by comparison. if that makes sense
bit like saying Dallas is as good as speed which would make any player better than dallas better than speed. i think i make sense but i haven't drunk for a while and i think it is affecting my brain.
09 Mar 2020 19:23:02
Thought it would be good to get the discussion going and providing another line of discussion rather than the obvious which it certainly did.
I will however make a couple of points about under Revie
Leeds were as I described until the 70's
Leeds won promotion in 63/ 64 without a recognised striker
Revie was reluctant to overspend
It was not until 67-69 that Mick Jones and Alan Clarke joined which was the beginning of a new era of more exciting football
Lastly I totally agree it is far to early to make comparisons for the whole of Revie's reign
However for the early years the comparison is clear, the only difference I see is the style of football at hat time
With Bielsa it is a different way of getting out of the second division.
A very good watch on Youtube is The Story of Don Revie and "Dirty Leeds"
09 Mar 2020 20:20:32
true spleeds it did raise a good point
I have been overly harsh about belisa and he is proving me wrong but he still has his faults. At worst he is a flaw stubborn manager with good points, at best he is a great manager with big flaws.
He is winning me over as even i can't argue with our results but i still think he is no where near as good as a few other managers about at the moment/ recently.
Pearson, wilde, faulk, wagner and warnock (yes warnock he is the master at this level) all at the moment for me have proven themselves better than belisa. that said if/ when he gets us up he will have a chance to prove how good he really is. same goes for phillips. i don't rate him but in the prem he has a chance to prove me wrong week in week out.
09 Mar 2020 20:42:01
Think you need to leave the snowballs alone or Cherry barley wine or what ever you lot drink down there with your shandy chasers.
09 Mar 2020 21:11:57
I will finish with this
I was 11 in 1962 when I started to support Leeds
I just have the same feeling now as I did then
I hope I am right, and Bielsa stays and goes on to be a legend, but as I say there is one positive difference in the type of football at the start of the journey which is where we are at the moment. So it could just be an even better journey.
10 Mar 2020 08:01:15
My god spleeds are you grade 2 listed? 😂.
10 Mar 2020 08:25:47
Went to my first game in 1954. (was at infants school) Walked from home with parents. John Charles was the star then. On the striker issue weren't Alan Peacock and Jim Storrie strikers? . Don Weston?
10 Mar 2020 10:05:11
What about Grayson? Also a legend.