Leeds Rumours Archive August 09 2012

 

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09 Aug 2012 23:05:16
LUST now tweeting that deal could be back on and that discussions have accelerated, but that as far as they were concerned the deal was off this morning....between the lines they were used in a game of poker this morning to up the ante between investors and Bates, and have spent the rest of the day back tracking saying deal could still be on. Bates retorted by issuing his own statement saying anybody can now make a new offer, but the recent investors can still discuss a deal. Clearly the investors are using LUST as a mouth piece in the process.

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Lets just hope the deal is still on the table. When i was told it was off, i have to be honest, i went drip white. I don;t think i could handle another 7yrs of Bates killing are great club.
mot4life

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I hope its just bates having one last dig at the Leeds fans, I don't think he wants to sell the club but the fans are pushing him out.. He can afford to be greedy like the swine that he has proven to be over the last few years

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LUST know nothing. Goodbye!! You bunch of pointless txxts!! Stay out of things you are too stupid to know anything about. Crawl back under your rock and stay away from our great club...........

Leigh

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Deal is 100% back on and would the keyboard warriors that know nothing stop slagging LUST off.They are doing the dirty work for all Leeds fans.

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I THINK THAT MR. BATES IS DEALING
WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST AS SHREWD AS HIM AND HE DOESN'T LIKE IT.HE WON'T BE ABLE TO FOOL THEM LIKE HE'S DONE THE FANS ALL THIS TIME.JUST MORE PROOF,IF IT WERE NEEDED,OF HOW GREEDY AND TOTALLY
ARROGANT THE MAN IS.I HAVE A FEELING THIS COULD DRAG ON AND ON,
HE WON'T SELL UNTIL HE GETS WHAT HE WANTS.HE WILL BE LAUGHING AT THE FANS AGAIN,LIKE HE HAS DONE ALL THE TIME HE HAS BEEN IN CONTROL.....I REALLY HOPE IT COULD BE 'SORTED'QUICKLY NOW,BUT DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH!

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So many people on here have short memories I don't like bates but he saved this club. Do you understand if he never came in we would not have a club to support simple.

What LUST have done is pump around the media that the deal is dead, when they saw the reaction they said we will give you details this afternoon where are they, then they say it back on in a tweet tossers they also have been slagging off potential new owners demanding to know who they are now look what has happened

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We will never be a great club with Bates in charge so you go crawl back under your rock and take your fellow Bates supporters with you please

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It's no use kidding ourselves or trying to come up with new conspiracy theories. The deal is OFF and we just have to move on.. MOT!

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Its went from ball in bates' court and the potential buyers were expecting the deal to still go through on wednesday, to yesterday being off to today being on. It funny how they brought the news about it maybe still being on after the post on the OS so everyone already knew it was potentially still on and they just rehashed the official site's statement.

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"It's no use kidding ourselves or trying to come up with new conspiracy theories. The deal is OFF and we just have to move on.. MOT!"

You probably don't know what irony means, but that's it.

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{Ed013's Note - Confirmation that Diouf is training with Leeds;

Leeds United Editors @LeedsEditors

@silenighan hiya mate, was Diouf training today? @silenighan @JoshLoweLufc yeh he was Si confirms Diouf was in training today #lufc #mot}

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I think diouf would be a great signing . Watching him last year in the championship he oozed class and stood out more than most . Yes he can be a divvy at times but if nw can sort that will be the best signing he has made by far .

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Definately agree with the post above, very good signing for us. and looking at the fact we have no money and needs players to me would be a must sign him up now.

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Will be great signing NOT.look whats come in.QPR,down Portsmouth down,doncaster down anyone else see a pattern here.

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It takes a squad to keep a team up not one player ! When we went down are you saying players like viduka and Kelly were not worthy of playing for another premier league team ? Silly comment to make from post above !

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I went to every home game in the league last year and he was in the top 3 players.He has prem ability no doubt,But he can be vile at times Spit the dog comes to mind.I would take him on a 1 year contract with a behaviour term inserted into his contract.

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09 Aug 2012 21:20:09
David Meyler signing from Sunderland on a free

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If he's back to his best after recent horrific injuries, he'd be a decent centre mid, would rather other positions looked at first though
BC

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09 Aug 2012 20:47:10
First things first, as it stands tonight, the takeover is still ON.

The fact is it's the exclusivity agreement that's ended, that's all. If anything I'd say it's a way of trying to speed things up.

If the takeover had been off, Bates would have been on the radio today, he's still very quiet, which suggests negotiations are still very much ongoing.

Not just Bates, the "new" owners would have been releasing press statements complaining about Bates and how the deal was being dealt.

In my opinion (some will agree, some otherwise) LUST need to stay out of whatever us going on, the last thing you need when you're trying to negotiate is a powerless third party disrupting things with inaccurate comments.

Until the communication comes from Bates and or the investors, I still believe it will happen.

Macca72

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Well said fella

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Absolutely 1st class well said macca well said your nailed on with what your sayin.
DO NOT listen to LUST they know nothing like the rest of us, let the parties involved get on with it regardless of outcome.
Again well said macca im with you.
DJC
We r leeds

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The takeover is off

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Thank you, someone finally see's some business sense..

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Couldnt of put it better, totally agree!

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Totally agree with this, it opens things up for other parties to register an interest. We don't know what the issue/s are. But it should be seen as positive, more competition can't be a bad thing for an attractive club like ours.

As an aside, four trialists featured in behind closed doors friendly at TA today.. Anybody any ideas ?

Morph MOT

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Yes - you would have thought Papa Smurf would have been flapping his lips about wasting his time etc if it was a dead deal. Wait and see - we'll see if any more statements come out on the OS

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Errr, quite clearly not happening fella. Especially considering the needle added in the comment on the OS that any new owners need to be 'credible'.

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Credible...you mean like the present owner? Bates doesn't communicate he insults when will you fools ever learn.

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Yes even though you used capitals to say on you are correct. It is just Ken bluffing

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If you were trying to sell a car for £1000 quid and you agreed with some to sell it but a week later someone offered you £2000 what ymwould you do??

Not see the thing for 1000 that's what all LUST have done is state something so it gets all over the media where us their statement as promised at 2pm today. They have realised opening there mouth has caused a stir and gone quite

Also would you prefer us to sign diouf personality aside or have Snodgrass? I know who I would want it's not the later

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On look north tonight reporter said deal off due to leeds end ( meaning bates) changing things at the eleventh hour.

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I am the last poster just checked LUST on twitter and now they are saying the deal is still on check it out. This is exactly what I mean it's called jumping the gun

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Sounds like shaun harvey in disguise.

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Wouldn't they have made that more clear though? The impression is that this certain deal has collapsed, but they are looking for more offers? however, ill put this out to a businessman - is there a certain time frame that an exclusivity period has to be?

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OP here, thanks for the Shaun Harvey reference, I'm assuming you've never met him or had any business dealings with him and your basing your facts on journalism and PR written quotes.

Exclusivity is a period of time mutually agreed by the two parties, it's not really relevant in all honesty, it just gives the "buyers" some comfort that they can conduct their (which cost a significant amount of money) without the worry they will be gazumped. It probably means more than one party expressed interest.

A significant investment in getting this far has already been made, it's unlikely it will be thrown away without a serious reason.

Macca72

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Clearly NW does not envisage any take over. Why would he unsettle players by listing Pugh and Rogers if there was a chance of investment

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09 Aug 2012 19:47:40
Looks like Leeds United are trying to get a big name in. Trying to sell 2 players to get 1 in...

So in a way Robbie Rogers and Danny Pugh wages will add up to one new strikers wage.

I wonder who this striker could be?...

DJM {Ed013's Note - Mike Grella! OK sorry, but someone needs to lighten the place up!}

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There wages are being freed up to offer contracts to cranie and Diouf, who are both training with the first team.

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Are you mad!! How will selling Pugh and Rodgers bring in a big name. What do you seriously think they will sell for. Get real and wake up

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Be interesting to see how much Leeds want for these 2 players

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Yes the big name is Messi or Ronaldo, we just need to sell these two

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BRING BACK BIG BRIAN DEANE!!

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09 Aug 2012 19:28:18
I have heard from a close friend that el hadji diouf was training with the first team squad at TA today.

Can anyone confirm this?

Surprised that YEP have'nt got some pics of this. {Ed013's Note - He was with Craine and Gomez. The other trialist was a RB unknown}

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Sorry is diouf training with us or not ? Yes or no please anyone {Ed013's Note - Yes}

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Who is this "Gomez"? And Diouf would be a good bit of business in my opinion as NW said it was unlikely that he would be able to afford both and with Diouf being on a freehand wages were low when he was at donny so then he an focus the large majority of what resources he ha on a striker and I for one hope that it is Nicky Maynard.

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I suspect NW is freeing up wages then by getting rid of pugh and rodgers to enable him to offer Diouf something and perhaps cranie.

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I hope we dont sign him, he is revolting

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Gomez is a young French midfielder and yes heard the Diouf rumour but according to The Sun he had signed for a Saudi team and that was weeks ago

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Cone on diouf against us last year was quality. He will def add that quality and is a far better player than Snodgrass. Who is Gomes?? Anyone have any insight please

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I would take Diouf, even though he is a ratbag.

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We are Dirty Leeds to everyone else anyway, so lets take Diouf. Definately a touch of quality at this level and if he works hard I think we'd all take to him massively.

He may be a 'bad boy sewer rat' but he could be our 'bad boy sewer rat'!

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09 Aug 2012 18:45:15
So tonight Leeds are still saying a deal can be done?? I think basically what they are doing is trying to save some bums on seats for the season. BATES HOW GULLABLE DO YOU THINK YOUR FANS ARE??...I don't even support Leeds utd and the way you treat clubs and fans is a joke. No wonder you live in Monaco you person. All this being said I think LUST should keep out of it! All the best Leeds, from a SUNNY BRIGHTON BEACH X

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Vert good point. The LUFC statement is effectively the same as it has always been pre takeover. Namely we would welcome investment on the condition of proof of funds. (or words to that effect). Take over dead in the water, Bates has upped his demands after a deal was agreed in principal, just shows bates doesnt have any (principles). No-one with any sense will do business with Bates after this, tries to shaft all he encounters. The man is a waste of food. God help us. The only answer is a Boycott of ER to hasten his departure. Money is all Bates understands LLHB

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Dont get your knickers in a twist its not finished yet bates is just playing with 2 take over bids wewll thats what i think anyway i woud be supprised if ken war chairman all this year im shore thay will be a take over fingers crossed

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Interesting to hear that a fan from "another club" believes that supporters groups shouldn't be involved in the running of LUFC. Is that what happened when the Goldstone Ground got sold out from under the fans? No, they fought for the future of their club and this, nothing more, nothing less, is what LUST are doing.

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Maybe Ken has a poker face on. There is nothing on the os site. He might be trying for a few more million

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But was it not LUST that misinformed everybody then this morning...I think it was! Maybe they should get their bloody facts right first then!!

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LUST have contradicted themselves so many times , they lied this morning to get a reaction from club and they did but still didnt get any information from club. Lust should stay out of this it has nothing to fo with them. If we are taken over great if not then lets get promoted with this team.

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Maybe the new owners are trying to shaft Bates? Nobody's considered that yet...

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I think LUST are being used by the prospective buyers to put pressure on Bates. Equally Bates will use LUST to his ends, particularly to take the blame if or when he needs them to. Peter MOT

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09 Aug 2012 18:18:40
Everyone look on yep it says Leeds say takeover is still alive !!!

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No it doesnt

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Bit like monty python parrot sketch

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Yes it does sayso on iphone app anyhow.
I give up i'm lost with it all.
Ed, help me out. Is the actual takeover off ? Or has bates just removed exclusivity to who is behind whatever is going on ? {Ed013's Note - It is now open mate and others are welcome to bid for the club}

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Wat wait another 2 months of dillance and it collapse again?

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I bet bates is just seeing if anyone else will buy us 4 more and when no one offers then he'll sell to the people who have offered to buy us :)

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Reading between the lines it actually looks like Bates desperately wants to sell this club(still believe the rumours that he is ill) and is wanting to turn the screw on the existing group by making it open season or looking for a quick other buyer.

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Bates has had his bluff called and is squirming takeover still to happen

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09 Aug 2012 18:00:50
Rumour has it Diouf has trained with us today

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I effin hope not {Ed013's Note - He was a trialist with Gomez and Cranie}

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I too have heard this, that he trained at TA with the first team squad.

Ed is this true then?

I actually really want this deal to happen. {Ed013's Note - Good source says it was them}

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He is disgusting

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Just when you think nothing can get any worse that low life spitter is training with us

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09 Aug 2012 17:49:44
Takeover/investment deal is still on, the only thing that has changed is Leeds united are no longer being exclusive with the middle eastern consortium, Leeds are now open to other offers whilst still trying to conclude a deal with the middle eastern consortium.

LUST have jumped the gun in a venomous attack for being left out of the loop.

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To be honest this is normal in business. If a deal is not done by the end of the exclusivity period, then it is common practice for the seller to invite further bids, often to put pressure on their preferred bidder to complete the deal.

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I didn't expect anything to come of this due to false hopes anyhow but if it does, bonus, if not, never mind we aint lost owt

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Original poster you know nothing, the deal was off this morning thanks to Bates. The club have changed their stance cos they know the sh*t will hit the fan. Leeds are not trying to conclude a deal Harvey is.

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Nonsense, the deal is dead in the water, thanks to bates. if it was business as usual why would harvey fly out to see bates in monaco?!(on lufc exes i suspect). didnt think i could hate bates anymore that i do but i have found new reserves of hatred. LLHB

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So the last two posters are basing their opinion on what? We have a speculative comment made by people who have nothing to do with the deal and an official statement by those who are conducting it and your response is... the officials are lying and we believe what the people who don't know anything are saying (or rather guessing). Don't let your hatred of Bates make you start to believe stupid things.

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09 Aug 2012 17:38:25
so there we have it,officially off.
we will prob never know the reasons or if any takeover was infact genuine or who it was.
mm 2 days before first proper game.
warnock must be frustrated as hell.did he know all this month ago when he admitted he nearly quit?,
lets face it got few decent players in but no chance of going up,mccormack could now be off and we have been totally mugged off.
shrew leeds

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Not officially off - just supposedly off according to people who don't know anything

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Read the statement don't make your own up! The exclusivity period is over and that's all. Discussions continue otherwise the bidders would be saying why.

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09 Aug 2012 17:23:56
Even more BAD NEWS!!...McCormack wants out...said to have no faith in board. Clubs queuing up left right and centre!

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Can you blame him after yet another "leeds fiasco"

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Utter rubbish, made up and pointless.

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More money for bates it must be his best day ever greedy b*****d

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Where is it you've seen this again ?
Utter rubbish

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So why hasn't he put pen to paper with less than 48hrs to season ko? Must be very reassuring to all you Leeds fans that he's holding out!!

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It's all crap , nowhere has this been quoted: if it was true let him go - he's not all that

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Yes him and Becciho out

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Absolute fantasy fiction, McCormack's already on the record as wanting to stay.

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Yes when Rhodes goes to Blackburn or Fulham Becciho or McCormack to The Poodles

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We dont want Becchio,,Mcormack can come but it wont be to replace Rhodes..only to join him !

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09 Aug 2012 17:12:44
So there we have it, confirmed on OS. Never mind, the dream was nice whilst it lasted. Cheers bates.

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We all knew this was going to happen

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What a shambles. I think it's now time that there is a criminal investigation into Bates and his dodgy deals. Snoddy obviously knew more than we did and understandibly jumped ship. we are now left with a threadbare squad devoid of any attacking threat. Colin will have to be a miracle worker to pull a promotion out of the hat. Bates just give us back the club we all love. I wish the latest squad all the best for the new season but my family will not be lining the greedy b******s pockets any longer.

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The club have said they would like to continue discussions but the investor doesn't have exclusivity. Either the investor don't have the money or they have nit agreed to the original price.

Why would ken bates waste his time. Also the statement says other potential investment and credentials

Let's not forget we would not a club if it was not for him

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Sounds to me like some other intrested party has come in for the club and bates is going to play them off against each other selling to the highest bidder

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Should we be surprised by this latest development?he has obviously had this ploy up his sleeve all along. what a despicable man he is!!can we really blame players for not wanting to be at our club?

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I love leeds inall but y would u waste yur money goin matches if the clubs not goin forward, anyone agree
f**king bates ruining leeds

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Abit of a coincidence dat the takeover collapsed just before the new season,, bates trying to pull a fast one i hate dat man soooo much hes ruining leeds

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I believe the takeover was true otherwise it would have collapsed the day after the transfer window ended. This way Ken can still sell Beccs and McCormack and bring in Kitson

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09 Aug 2012 23:43:31
What did you really think was going to happen ! Bates is a greedy self interested "merchant banker" He has no love for our great club and he never will have his only motivation is money. But one day the grey haired old **** will not be here - He is an GREEDY BAR STUARD but we will always be LEEDS

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The takeover has not ended. The only thing that has is the exclusivity agreement. It's not difficult to understand. It was only LUST (who don't have a clue) that were suggesting that it was off, and they have quickly backtracked and said that it's now still on.

Also, has anyone considered the possibility that Bates is trying to deal with someone who is equally as greedy and hard nosed as he is, and trying to shaft him as well. Don't let pre-concieved ideas get in the way of logical thinking.

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The only thing that is off is the exclusivity period. Try reading the text and not making up what you want it to say.

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09 Aug 2012 14:48:11
Why do we have to sell players to buy players!

What's happened to the money from the snodgrass deal?

Sy BsE Leeds

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Its that same old story we had last season, money coming in pays for wages. Cant work it out either !

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Wer do u think,in bates back pocket

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Bates takes his cut, usually around 80% and then the rest goes on building work around ER.

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Seriously your asking this question. Its going in the same place the Howson, Schmeical, Gradel and Delph money went. In the pocket of our tyrant chairman who does what he wants.

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It's been spent on players. We didnt get the full money upfront either

Crmd

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Bates' back pocket.

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No1knows what Leeds got for snoddy so most of the money could have gone already on transfers,signing on fee n wages

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All bates basically does is sell a player for 2 mil buys a player for 500k and then rest goes into the war chest which we never see

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Don't think I've ever hated anyone so much I'm my whole life. I'd rather go for dinner with my Ex.
Put your hand in your pocket Ken and buy Colin the 2 players he wants instead of having to sell.

Sy BsE Leeds

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It is all becoming very clear now. Without doubt Snodgrass who was very well briefed on what was going on packed his bags and when he realised the full implications of the collapse. Even the manager knew what was going on the other night when he said that he would have to move other players on to add to the squad in vital areas. Warnock even confirmed that the team is very thin and need luck with injuries. What does all this tell us. Surely there are clever Leeds fans out there who now know that the club is the laughing stock of europe. The board does not trust the fans. They including Mr. Bates have to go or else this club will continue to go from farse to farse. What is the worst that can happen if the club is boycotted from this Saturday. No money goes in to the club and this would leave the board looking so stupid. Why should supporters spend their hard earned cash for a clapped out car when to date they have forked out enough for a rolls Royce. It is time to get sense even for those supporters who though Mr Bates saved the club. No he saved himself that is why is lives outside the country. He has not broken any rules but he has used your hard earned funds to fund this legitimacy. Enough is enough

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Snoddy called it right. No future for Leeds. Bates lied to him last year and he saw through the BS this summer. Sad he went to Norwich when he could've gone to a better team. Oh well, another season of mediocrity and the Bates pension fund showing a marvellous return

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Its prob gone s8 tothe cayman island account

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You were all slagging Snoddy of before

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Money's gone on signing on fees and salaries.

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Why do we have to sell players to buy players?

Are you serious? You need money to buy players. You get money from selling players. Honestly, it's not rocket science.

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09 Aug 2012 14:47:22
Remember when we got 15 point deduction ! and we were all gutted and we resonded by being top at christmas, we ll this is another one of those moments that we all have to go through together. lets get behind the team and get thier minds on promotion. bates is tempory , leeds is for life. MOT MOT

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A very nice point mate! Marching On Together

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Bates is temporary...No he isnt! LLHB boycott ER

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Totally agree, support the team and manager its what we do. If we concentrate on Mr Bates we'll end up with another shambles of a season.

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You are playing right into Bates hands... he values your loyalty sooo much because it results in him getting money, which never gets reinvested into the team. Boycott the club short term till he goes, then support with every inch of your being when he has gone - that's the only way we are ever going to be the club we want us to be.

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Good Point
Mossy Leeds MOT

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The main difference between the and now is that the 15 point deduction was imposed from outside LUFC, namely the FL in a majority vote of all other clubs. This time the enemy is well and truly within ( you all know who) continuing to provide your undying support at this time will ensure we remain in the ownership of bates while he knows he will turn in a profit season after season. Time to wake up and smell the coffee. BOYCOTT ER LLHB

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As much as I wish the takeover had happened and we had mega rich owner,the fact is we havent.What has Mr Bates done wrong?He tried to sell supposedly it didnt happen?Marching on together,this is the Leeds team we love,whoever is at the helm,we have never been big spenders in my lifetime(I'm 46)we got Snoddy,Bechio,Beckford,Howson,Delph,Kasper and Gradel all cheap or through youth team,so it shows you dont have to spend big to get quality players,so let Warnock do what he's paid for,he aint bad at it,and let Mr Bates keep our club debt free and functioning,unlike Pompey!We are Leeds and always will be..MOT...

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09 Aug 2012 14:40:39
Apparently Bates wanted 50% of the money we would get if we reached premier league this year, claiming he was entitled to it as he had laid the foundations. UNBELIEVABLE

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Where did you get this information from??

lufe

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He is a joke...... BATES OUT

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Words fail me.KB you dont know how much this hurts us.

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It was all the talk in billys bar this afternoon, apparently someone from LUST was ranting about it this morning.

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It is unbelievable, total fiction.

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Whenever there is speculation there is always the same reaction - if it's good, no-one believes it and if it's bad everyone believes it.

Is everyone seriously so blind and simple minded? There is no evidence behind the op - just because it's negative about Bates doesn't mean you should just believe it straight away. Think about it.

Ever since this LUST comment everyone has lost their brains.

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09 Aug 2012 14:36:20
E-mail I have just sent to Leeds United.
Lets hope I get some sort of reply.

Hello to whomever receives this e-mail,

As a long time supporter of this amazing club let me be the first to thank all the staff and people that create dreams for fans all over the globe.

Whether this e-mail gets to Mr Bates I do not know but I still want to try anyway.

Mr Bates,

You sir, saved our great club, I am so pleased that you did that and believe that your heart IS in the right place regarding our club. Or your club if you want to be pedantic.

I love this club with all my heart and am a subscriber to LUTV yearly and do not miss a single game including pre season.

Let’s get to the point of the e-mail though, it has been reported that the takeover pending has collapsed, and whilst I never listen to the wannabe personic statements from LUST, it still sends shivers up my spine knowing that we are not going to be able to be a bit more ‘expansive’ in signing players and our quest to return to the Premier League. It is also reported, which I’m sure you know, that it was yourself that ‘moved the goalposts’ at the last minute regarding this prospective sale. Whilst most fans will not show their gratitude to you for what you have actually done, that does not stand for the majority of us who are forever grateful to you. I do though feel that you personally have taken us as far as you possibly can within this league, and that’s not a bad thing by ANY means necessary. You have created a future for us and given us and future generations a chance at returning to where we actually belong.

If you did sell now, you could hold your head high and say “I did that.†And we will never forget you for that, I know you are a business man and the main motivation for business men is to earn money, but doesn’t the recognition speak any value either?

Please Mr Bates, give us the chance to return to the glory lands, if that be with you, then release some funds for Mr Warnock to take advantage of, if you cannot do that, please let someone else have a go.

I am praying I win the Euro-millions so I can give some money to the club myself to get a few ‘marquee’ signings!

Thank you very much for spending the time reading my e-mail and I hope I warrant a reply.

Best wishes and Kind regards to you and everyone else,

Leeds fan for life,

Mr. Anthony Ward
Outpatient Booking Co-Ordinator {Ed045's Note - This was my post guys!

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Well said - hope it gets through to him and some of the Leeds fans who do nothing but criticize.

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The only message we can now send to Bates is to boycott Elland road. Its all he understands.

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Good on you mate, hope you get a response.
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If that beautiful letter to snoddy didn't convince him to stay, I doubt bates will even give this the time of day.

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From the heart ED '' at least until the world stops turning round''

foxrat

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Your hearts in the right place mate but pleading with vultures and blackmailers gets you nowhere.

We are being held to ransom precisely because Bates thinks we the fans and NW will deliver a successful promotion season that can earn him more dosh.

Bates will only sell if he feels he has squeezed out every ounce of value and out smarted the opposition to prove to the world he is a smarter operator!

He wants a share of the future value of the club whilst saying he wants to sell - its like someone buying your house but you demanding a share of the increased future value as a condition of the sale because you have put a lot into decorating it! No one can do business with people like that so we shouldn't blame the potential new owners.


Bates will hang on until the very last power play.

A takeover will happen at some point but its going to be a long business - so we have to have patience and take the long view. NW is in a really difficult situation.

The only leverage anyone has is to prove to Bates that there is a chance that the value of the club will fall rather than increase this season.

That is a really tough ask for loyal fans who have had their expectations inflated - and Bates knows that!

MOT

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Unless you put a tenner in the envelope then there is no chance bats is going near you're letter yet alone give you a reply, sorry.

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Your are acredit to leeds united fans mr anthony ward well spoken from life long leeds united fan NOW AND ALWAYS

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Bates is a greedy , evil , power crazy little man , he is a parasite , everyone else is wrong and he's always right , the man is a tyrant and im afraid the only way out beloved club will ever escape his vile clutches is after he's drawn his last breath fact

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Ed please don't take this the wrong way but that letter is all wrong. It is creeping around him and makes you look weak. You should be telling him how frustrated you/we all are. He knows what our passion is and how we want to be massive again, but he enjoys watching us crumble. The man is vile, saviour or not he is ruining us and has put us 2-3 years behind because he wont spend. Work out how much we have made from player sales and then take off the signings we have had back in. Where has all the money gone. If Neil Warnock was given 3-4 Million we would be a good, solid team. As it stands we are a solid, average team. Yes we have a better core, but we have lost Clayton and Snoddy who would have made us stronger. Anyway, each to their own

Leeds4eva

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Are you on drugs, ken bates not cares about himself and your letter will go n the bin,

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Agree with Leeds4eva. I wrote in saying a similar thing, but my post didn't get on the site. Censorship I reckon. Only way to prove my comment wasn't pulled is to post this one.... sawfeet

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Boycotting won't make the slightest difference. Nothing does.

The only thing that would make him go is someone offering him the money he wants. Simple as.

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Well said mate,if it wasnt for ken bates there wouldnt be a leeds united.

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Any reply from the letter ed??

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09 Aug 2012 14:30:39
Though i would share the below article

Words cannot ascertain the heartache that each and every fan now feels after months of hope and excitement. Like a kid at Christmas, opening an Action Man box to find a pair of socks, utter deflation surrounds everyone connected with the good of Leeds United.

Woody LUFC

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I don't like action man and never have, it's got to be thunderbirds.

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A pair of socks! I dreamed of a pair of socks

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09 Aug 2012 13:47:36
look north just reported, they think ken bates moved the goal posts on take over, shaun harvey as flown to monaco to try and save the deal, the offer is still on the table

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That i don't believe because harvey flew out there to bring a close to it

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Bates needs to stay away from er if he knows whats good for hin

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I think this is EXACTLY why Harvey flew out yesterday. To make him see sense. It's not like he can continue to be chairman of the club. He would literally be killed if he set foot anywhere near the ground.

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Seriously guys come on dont make threats towards mr bates he really isnt worth it, as much as we hate him he saved us at end of day but YES it is time for him to leave

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No he didn't save us . we have no ground or training pitch . we have a squad worth next to nothing . he sold assets ,took us into administration got debt at a reduced rate that is the only reason we are not in debt now . he has no money to take us to where we should be and i hope he quickly shrivels up an dies .Bates screw u .

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09 Aug 2012 12:49:19
always said that bates would sell when we reached the premier league and not before!
Anyway just booked my tickets for the wolves game after news broke, it what happens on the pitch not of it that concerns me!
MOT
Tim

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Well said mate! MOT

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I dont think he will live tht long.

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To the second reply, i hope your not even joking because i really hope he doesn't.

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He might have a very long wait then

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I agree chap, on the pitch that counts. Look at what happened when we failed to finish in the top 4 with O'dreary.... weels then came off the train set.
LUFC Forever
Trigs

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BOYCOTT ER, THE ONLY WAY

LOVELEEDSHATEBATES

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09 Aug 2012 12:38:20
why are people blaming Bates, hes said nothing! if anyone is to blame its that stupid Supporters Trust, they have gone and knacked this up for all of us by openly criticising the potential investors the other week and ill bet your bottom dollar that it has put them off due to them impatient set of persons

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Total Rubbish, bates is to blame being too greedy

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I made that point in a reply to someone yesterday, i said if the deal falls through i wouldnt blame the buyers to have left because of the trust. I mean the statement they made saying 'They have started their relationship with the fans very negatively' or something along those lines was also potentially going to upset them.

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I think you give Leeds Unknowing Supposed Trust too much credit.

Is this really how you think multi million pound deals are done? Someone on a website moans about you not providing an update to soemthing which is quit frankly nothing to do with them, so pull out of the deal. Get real.

The guy supposedly running the T.O is part of the ruling royal family who have been oppressing their "subjects" for decades. I think a few people not being happy is everyday life for them.

The collapse, quite simply will be down to a lack of agreement on any number of issues. It cant be down to the investors not having enough money as the OS specifically said that wasn't a concern after seeing proof of funds.

Possibly they didn't agree on the value or one of Bates many shady shell companies.

If it has failed I don't really care that much why. I just hope we can move on and it doesn't impact the manager and players focus on the job at hand.

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Anyone but bates ffs. time to wise up people. the customer is king

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Agreed. LUST are stirring things up probably just to get a reaction, with no fact or knowledge behind what they are saying. They have no power, no influence and NO IDEA. Wish they would shut up and F*** off.

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Yer that's why it's collapsed because a supporters trust organisation say what they did, wake up people, people with that kind of money and power don't pull out and waste time and money unless something with the due diligence process didn't add up

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Totally agree with the last post.confidentiality mean's exactly that ! LUST, are just stirring thing's up again we are all tired of it now, the signing's we have made are very promising so get behind the team and f..k the rest !

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No wonder Bates is staying with you bunch of clowns, Keep feeding him and he'll keep bleeding the club. You sad sad people.

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To the last poster, if you are not Leeds why are you coming on our page? Who's sad now buddy :-)

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Ha ha ha but i am Leeds and was when you were swinging in your fathers testicles son. Thing is i have the sense not to feed the cancer. Who's sad now buddy:-)

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Do you really believe that lust could derail a multi million pound business deal?

Potential investors are business people they look at pounds and pence.

This deal has obviously fallen through due to other reasons and there could be hundreds.

regardless of wether its bates fault, the boards fault or potential investors fault, its happened, deal with it and get on with it.!!

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Totally agree with the OP. The club has issued three statements to date, none of which mentioned takeover, only investment. If fans choose to believer rumours and tweets, more fool them.

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LUST are persons, but haven't affected the deal falling through, because it hasn't fallen through! Just read the OS (I know it's got some long words in it) - it's very clear. All that has ended is the exclusivity period.

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Mr bates as spent £16.000,000 on boxes in the east stand ,ok if we was in the prem. he is subsidising yorkshire radio up tp £4,000,000 a year and as spent a load of our money on the pavillion. all of these enterprises are loss making and make the club look good but make the team look bad.

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09 Aug 2012 12:45:09
Well, Pugh and Rogers on the transfer list. I am beginning to get disheartened. Both players can be good squad men, Pugh versatile as well. He also cost 55ok and we wont get half that back. Rogers hasn't had enough game time to show if he can cut it yet. Klinsman rates him and he does have pace and could have been a good player for us.

The big problem here is the a) the clear lack of funds- having to sell when we already dont have a full solid squad with enough bodies. b) still not getting anywhere near a settled squad with the season nearing c) This move, alongside the whispers coming out from various sources, he protracted time frame and the views of LUST and YEP report this morning...it all appears to indicate that at the very best the takeover is no nearer resolution ( and thus stability and possibly new funds) or at worst it is pretty much on the verge of collapse.

All this is very dispiriting. To be honest i think we already needed another quality CB, a striker and a creative wide man ON TOP OF what we already have...not offloading versatile/ promising squad members. WSe just are not going to have the depth and quality to get promoted at this rate. It looks worrying and you have to ask will the cake ever get iced. And that is the reality. At the moment it is a solid, reasonable cake. Not a promotion ready, iced, cherry topped cake. I know I will get responses saying 'we support the team whatever' and don't be a doom monger, but just saying it how i see it. I think NW has done a really good job with the squad this summer ( in light of circumstances/ limited funds/ protracted takeover) but with what we have at the moment we are far, far from promotion favs. This move today is worrying and indicative of problems at the club. I want promotion and a squad to get it. Same old Leeds unfortunately. Beginning to doubt the likelihood of the takeover for the first time.

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Pugh isnt great tbh dunno much about rogers, but my question is who exactly is warnock planning to buy with what cant be a whole lot of money for selling those 2, may be better holding onto them?

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Thought we was thin on the ground.

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Grayson will now make an offer for rogers

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I agree with the above, cant imagine anyone paying anything or much for them, spose the wages off books will help. Still leaves us a bit short. Surely we would be better letting the likes of connelly, paynter etc leave and get no transfer fee to get them off the books. Surely someone must want them for nothing?

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Warnock may want them off the wage bill, rather than expecting funds to be generated in sales.

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Perhaps nobody wants the likes of Connelly and Nunez, I would be more concerned that we will now sell Becchio and McCormack. They are our only real assets

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Don't forget we still have money in the Snoddy pot left, it just may be a tad short of the required amount to bring in a player NW wants, so these players leaving removes 2 wage bills, and funds hopefully a good new player/2
RyanMOT

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Far enough about Rodgers but Pugh was a joke last year I'm sad to say, good riddance. I see you're point but if Pugh plays at left back like Wanock played him last year, we now have a massive talent in that position, aidy white, and a solid premiership quality defender, Adam drury.

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09 Aug 2012 12:43:33
Takeover off - be interesting to hear what Bates has to say in his match programme notes...

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He'll say the potential buyers didn't have the funds!

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He will blame anybody but his selfish self,BATES OUT!!

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He will claim buyers has wasted his time, but you Bates has wated mine....hours reading with å small hope of this take over to come true. Bot No, and I know I have been naive in my hope.

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Who cares what he says its all confused nonsense. Lets just support the team and manager as we always do, forget about bates dont give him the satisfaction, let get behind the lads.

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Whilst I love my club, i for one will not be spending another penny at ER until that man has gone, roll on the away games

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I wont be buying a programme to read that mans sh*te. Shrewsbury is my last ever match while the cancer is at our club.

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We have built a good team with out the takeover and i think we will be in top 6 this season also this is bates first full year as the top dog be he only bought leeds united in 2011 and saved the club.

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The takeover is not off! Read the OS!

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09 Aug 2012 12:41:48
Takeover or no takeover, we have reason for optimism.

Last year we scored 65 goals, just 4 less than Reading.

We would of achieved a play off spot if it wasn't for our leaky defence, which i think we all agree has now been sorted.

If you remove the 12 goals of Snoddy and the 5/6 goals of Clayton, i'm sure players such as Varney, Norris and Austin can conpensate for their loss of goals.

Added to this i expect Becchio to have a 20 goal season again now he has had proper pre season.

Let's not turn against the team just because of Bates, we have a solid squad and if the fans can get behind the team, Elland Road will be a fortress and we will have a very good chance!

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We have no creative player to make the chances we need to challenge for promotion.yes defense is looking solider but attack is so weak

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I disagree becchios best days are behind him it will be another tough season

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From what I saw at Burton we will struggle to get 40 goals this season

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Agree with original poster - Forest did get taken over and look at the crap they're signing - new owners arent everything. Bates is a piece of work, but he's so far this summer allowed Warnock to buy a solid looking team and their's promising signs from youth players like Poleon, Bryam et al. Warnock said yestyerday that he needed something else up front and he's working towards that, takeover or non. We look like we've got hardworking solid defenders and c entre mids in place now and upgraded the goalkeeping options considerably - so we're gonna be hard to beat. Trust in Warnock to bring in a striker and an attacking winger and lets see what happens. Bates is here and nothing said or dome will effect that, so lets just move on, accept the situation and support our team on the pitch. MOT

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I agree, think we look better with some solid players. Cant comment on the attackers as not seen enough of pre-season. Hopefully the players we have will come good and help us keep scoring goals like previous seasons, but with a stronger back 5.

Only time will tell. Think first 6 of the 7 league games will give us an idea as got some tough teams

MOT!

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Sorry chaps absolutely no quality or creativity in the team.
Will concede less but will score less.
The present team is botton eight.

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What about all the assists Snoddy provided? (league leader in this stat Im pretty sure) and to a lesser extent Clayton. We have no one who can create opportunities to score, yeah we have improved defensively but all in all we are looking at plenty of nil all draws from what I can see

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This is nonsense. Most of those goals came before Warnock came in - different style of play. So it's irrelevant. We will let in less but score less. And with Snoddy gone - much less. To do a more accurate heuristic assessment, take the goals we scored post warnocks appointment and, roughly, take a fifth off. Thta's how many we will net, roughly, over that number of games. That's how many we'll score. The goals against ? well , it's a new back 4 / midfield / tactics so impossible to assess.

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So all Snoddy did last year was score 12 goals? Not sure about that 1, what about all the chances he made due to being the most creative player in the squad. I remember games when we were playing poorly and the game plan seemed to be give it to Snoddy and see if he can come up with anything. Which he often did.

Your right though the defense looks loads better and so would the midfield if we could just get a decent creative winger to take Snoddys place.

Shame that Rodgers and Pugh are gunna have to go to make funds though as they would have made very good squad players. Just hope Ross doesn't go anywhere because he could be crucial.

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True however Norris and Varner are no snodgrass, no question!

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Warnock is trying the cardiff way last year. We were hard to beat but we lacked creativity I think leeds will do well this season.

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09 Aug 2012 12:38:32
I said it before and I'll say it again. If we act as a business and all businesses have shareholders then they should all in unison call a vote of NO CONFIDENCE in Bates. He is wrecking our club and ruining our chances of getting promoted how can that be good for business?

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What would the shareholders have an issue with? We've moved from a wreck of a club to a profitable business. Shareholders are interested in return on investment. They're getting that.

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Forgive me if i'm wrong but isn't Bates majority shareholder, not going to call a vote of no confidence on himself if that is the case

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Bates owns 80% of Leeds United

(HE IS THE MAJORITY SHAREHOLDER)

But he only bought the club in 2011, a lot of people think he has been in charge for a lot longer than he has.

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09 Aug 2012 12:33:14
if the takeover really has collapsed,which , if we are transfer listing two more players to raise funds, then master bates has had us for mugs.
we must now rally round the team and support the lads like never before. creating an atmosphere at ER and getting at bates will not benefit the players. just look at what it did to blackburn. bates, your time is up, you have saved us, then bled us dry of our quality players, and now had us over. sell up and f*** off back to monaco. you have no interest in LEEDS UNITED, just linning your pockets. do us all a favour and sell up and slip out the back door. your services are no longer required. come on leeds
MOT

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He didn't save us at all. anyone could of sold our assets and put us in administration and not spent any money on players

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I agree theres no point boycotting games. that won't help the team at all. We need to show the support that Warnock has talked about.
Other forms of protest are necessary to show Bates we hate him but he already knows that and wont make any difference anyway!
Support the team MOT

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Boycotting is the only way to get rid of him, cut off his funds ffs.

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09 Aug 2012 12:29:42
Ken Bates = Wayne Kerr

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09 Aug 2012 12:21:41
I have alraedy bought tickets for the friendly on Saturday and renewed my LUTV. I'm afraid Bates will be seeing no more of my money

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What friendly? pre season is over.

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Season starts on Saturday!

I've held off LUTV, being up on the Scottish Islands, and having to be sure the Mighty Whites stream is up and running, I can't get DAB... so until I know wtf is truly going on.. as NOBODY but Bates does... I'll not be subbing!

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Was thinking of whether to goto shrews match but even at £24 for 3 of us I am not lining bates pocket anymore. I will be at Wolves and Blackburn games as I am brrowing mates season ticket but will not be buying owt that will mean money goes to Bates. he will take great great delight in making out he is in the right in his propoganda notes in the programme on saturday. I am so so fed up with hwo things are going with LUFC we are a laughing stock

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You must all look at the bigger picture, whatever you think you are doing to papa smurf your doing to LUFC, by staying away your playing into the oppositions hands, remember the 15 point deduction, dig deep Leeds fans and lets march on together.

foxrat

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09 Aug 2012 12:21:02
if warnock stays for the remainder of his contract promotion or not he will have earned my respect

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If Warnock lasts until December he will have earned a medal

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It wunt surprise me if he walks

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If warnock goes we are stuffed

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09 Aug 2012 12:10:14
Takeover collapsed..... Issues over TA and ER ownership and also bates wanted a lot more than buyers where willing to pay. Prob why snoddy moved on last week knowing this was coming. Not good news with season starting on Saturday . We as fans need to rally around Warnock and the players he has in as I think the only way we can get rid of bates is to get promoted this year

Irish fan Phil

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Bates Out oh no hang on he's still here! BOYCOTT ELLAND ROAD!

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Bates you silly old scrooge!! Why don't you just bugger off back to Monaco! It's all good being thick-skinned but you should really have a bit of dignity and not stay where you're not wanted!! Are you too dumb to get the message?!?!?!

MOT!!

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Promotion this year ha ha ha ha.

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There are no issues over TA and ER ownership. Both are owned by a company based in Salford headed by Mr Jacob Adler.

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09 Aug 2012 12:07:50
Pugh and Rogers on transfer list. Pugh yes but Rogers? Needs to have more game time i think.
O.S

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Both poor players anyway

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Yeah I was kind of looking forward to seeing what a fully fit Rogers was going to do for us this season.Dont think he got a fair crack of the whip at all to be honest.

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09 Aug 2012 12:07:20
Rogers and Pugh to be sold to raise a few quid for transfers now the so called takeover has collapsed.
All the fans have been strung along with the takeover talk to keep buying the season tickets. Bet bet NW feels really let down for the fans and players he has brought in to trengthen the squad.
Time to wake up fellow fans and smell what Bates has been shovelling.
Bates out !!

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I think the fans have strung ourselves along on this one. With little or no official statement from the club we have created the scenario ourselves. Just look at this site over the last month we've had drunken Arab princes and everyone's got a mate who knows a bloke who drove past thorp arch. We've still got quality a good manager and loyal fans, I personally wouldn't have wanted us to do a Leicester spend loads of cash and fall on our faces. Keep the faith and cheer up, the footsie seasons about to start

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09 Aug 2012 12:01:30
Takeover has collapsed - LUFC trust on twitter has just announced it - doesn't really come as a shock.

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09 Aug 2012 11:59:40
Takeover has collapsed

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09 Aug 2012 11:59:15
Takeover collapsed, Rodgers and Pugh listed, really don't want Rodgers to go but better than Ross leaving

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09 Aug 2012 11:53:45
Also Philip hay just tweeted from warnocks press conference

Pugh and robbie rogers transfer listed

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09 Aug 2012 11:50:38
Not a rumour. Takeover has collapsed.
The dream is over
Source LUFC Trust

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Ofcourse it is a rumour. LUST have never met the contact it could just be a scum fan or the guy who does that west ham blog for all they know. I'm not saying i dont believe it to be the case because i do but its not fact yet. And if it has it was probably LUST's fault for slating the potential buyers.

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Source LUFC Trust - says it all. What do they know? Nothing. They have absolutely no part in the deal, so how would they know any more than you or I?

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09 Aug 2012 11:49:56
Leeds trust just tweeted the deal has collapsed.

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09 Aug 2012 11:49:35
LUST confirming on Twitter that the deal has fallen through, more details to be released officially later on today.

F*ck off bates! He has saved us, now was the time to let us go!

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09 Aug 2012 10:24:17
Takeover is off for a little while, maybe 1 or 2 years. Bates is impressed with Warnock's signings on the cheap and believes we now have a good chance of promotion, hence the U-turn on the takeover. Bates will be chairman for another season at least as he wants to sell the club when we're in the Premier League, for more money.

Shame.

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I think your comments are merely speculative. The most likely reason for the breakdown of the so-called takeover is that Bates is a really difficult and unpleasant man to deal with; either that, or the labyrinthine complexity of the ownership of Leeds United defeated the auditors. Is Bates truly "impressed" with the quality of Warnock's signings? Why? We've beaten a few teams many leagues below us and Warnock himself admits that the squad is incomplete. With Snodgrass, we finished mid-table - without him..... Neither I nor you nor Bates has the faintest idea whether we will be in contention for sixth place or fighting relegation. If Bates were so upbeat, why would he not gamble a couple of million to make sure we have a real shot at the premiership? The good times have receeded far into the distance, I'm afraid.

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Well, that's not likely to happen unless NW works some magic. You dont get promoted by selling your best 5/6 players in 2/3 years as we have.

If he wants promotion to make more cash from the Leeds cow, he may have to stump up some readies to get more depth in our thin squad, or hope the youth we have are as good as the ones O'leary brought through.

As to Bates parting with any more cash, I think we have plenty of experienceto realise how likely that is to happen.

Still, I reckon the first 11 is more solid (defensively) than last year but can they play as a team?. God I hope so
Excroggywhite. MOT (sadly with bates)

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Why do people keep putting we're on the verge of promotion or when we're in the premier league with the team Leeds have a top ten finish is at the most is what leeds should hope for! The squad isn't that good to be challenging for a top 6 no way near! This year with all the teams that's in the league is going to be the hardest by far to get promoted! I've a sneaky feeling Leeds could be in trouble this year and struggle

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With what we have now avoiding relegation will be our aim. Watched the Burton game and we were woefull - pumping long balls in to the box and fetting beaten in the air almost everytime will leave us way way short of promotion

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09 Aug 2012 09:02:30
YEP reporting takeover on brink of collapse. Warnock been told to sell to create funds for additions. Classic greedy bates. Snodgrass left as new deal wouldnt happen. His interview on norwich website stated initial excitement of leeds future quicker diminished when realised things werent happening he thought would! think he ment takeover? {Ed013's Note - Only McCormack and Becchio left to generate funds. Unless Stoke fancy giving us the 500k back for Pugh!}

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If true..it could be admin by xmas on crowds of 15k ..and rioting fans protesting....who said it was gonna be a dull season

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What? Where is say takeover to collapse? You scare monger get a grip if it was falling through Warnock would leave its a clause in his contract

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YEP says - 'doubts starting to surround the takeover of the Championship club' so, not quite as pessimistic as your 'brink of collapse' statement. That said, it also says it is said that Shaun Harvey has hot footed it to Bates hq in Monaco and that can't be too good.

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I don't know how the YEP get their stories. I think because they haven't been told anything that they believe there must be problems. It could well be that the takeover will collapse, but the 'whizz' reporters at the YEP know no more than the average fan, yet have to print some garbage to fill their quota.
How many other scoops have they printed that failed to materialise.
YEP and LUST have been as bad as each other during this whole saga.
MaltaWhite

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YEP reporting that there are doubts about the deal going through. Taking their lead from all the rumour sites. Although i agree this doesnt look good.

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Great, jus wot we needed, cheers ken ur a star ! person

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Here we go again mr fu**ing greedy bates been a total pr**k as usuall he is destroyin our beautiful club get him out NOOOOOOW

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YEP reporting 'doubts' over takeover due to lack of information not that it's on the brink of collapse. In other words they know nothing so they're going to guess what's happening

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Just because its quiet does not mean the deal has,or will collapse,NW doesnt seem concerned at the moment,so why assume its all gone tits up just because theres no news,the deal will be done,just a matter of time.

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A load of rubbish the YEP is not reporting any such thing.

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I think that the new prospective owners don't want to be fleeced in the transfer market for our target players so they are not saying anything until after the window has closed and we can get our targets at a decent price therefore all the reports of having to ship players out first is just to get our unwanted players out of the club quicker.... They will then announce our takeover and spend a bit of cash in january...

i think this could be quite clever but very frustrating.

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Thank you bates you've really p*ssed me off now maybe it's time you meet your maker and make us all happy. ROBBO MOT

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McCormack linked to Forest

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09 Aug 2012 00:32:18
This is a fact. Mr Bates only buys dieing ships, not because he loves them but because he knows he can milk them. Thats why people think pompey is his next port of call. See what i mean.
mot4life

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What about Chelsea

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This is probably true. He does it for the love of the money, not the love of the game. The man has made us no longer united.
RMWHITES

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Pompy !! not even comparable to leeds or chelsea bates would go no where near pompy. you cant milk something that has no milk or long term potential .

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Chelsea was on its ass before bates took over mate, to first poster. And I really don't care wether bates out a pound into Leeds or a million or even if he's taken money out, he grabbed us by the scruff of the neck and got us back on our feet but and it's a big but, it's time he let go of his grip now coz there's plenty that hate him anyway and even the ones who are positive about him are starting to get annoyed with this takeover saga

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Chelsea he bought for a pound at the time was on verge of liquidation then he left with a tidy proffit

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No sh*t sherlock! It's only like property developers that buy run down houses, do them up and sell on for a profit. We've had some horrible tasting medicine, but hopefully now we're about to feel a whole lot better!

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I cannot stand the guy BUT we have to realise that he has sorted us out, we were in a mess and going backwards. he has provided business stability and a platform to grow. He is certainly not on my christmas card list but when he has gone we will give him more credit than he currently gets. you simply cannot run any business and allow it to lose money all the time.

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Looking at where Chelsea were before he went there and where they were when he left, I think your really not sure of what your saying or certainly the facts around it.
Let's just hope we get bought and return to where we belong!
LUFC T7

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He'd better hurry up and sell Leeds then. Don't Pompey go into liquidation tomorrow? He can't buy them if he's not announced he's left Leeds

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"What about Chelsea"

Chelsea were nothing when he bought them for £1 - they were bust an in the 2nd Division. I'm pretty sure they were a dying ship.

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Your stated rumour is a fact because you think Bates is going to do something that he hasnt done yet?

I dont see what you mean at all?

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Don't forget - Billy's Bar, Howard's Restaurant, Yorkshire Radio - all of these enterprises make serious losses, and are funded by the fans paying at the gates.

We would be better off without them - its pretty simple!

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Then I wish he would buy the Titanic as this man is nothing more than a leech. Wish he would sink with it too.

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