Leeds Rumours Archive February 25 2014

25 Feb 2014 18:06:57
Cellinos boat seized by Italian authorities re a £400,000 tax evasion case to be heard on 18th March. This is seperate from his embezelment case and the hearing is one day after our winding up petition hearing. All doom and gloom folks - no wonder F League aren't saying yes at the moment.

25 Feb 2014 19:52:13
This is not true at all, I'm a county court bailiff and in European law no goods can not be seized until a court case has been heard and a court order issued . Why on earth would someone write a story unless it was just to winde us leeds fans up. We are suffering enough.

25 Feb 2014 19:58:07
http://www.unionesarda.it/articolo/cronaca_sardegna/2014/02/25/cagliari_barca_sequestrata_a_cellino_il_pm_chiede_confisca_e_sanzione_da_1_mln-6-356015.html

Why say unbelievable when the article here proves it?

25 Feb 2014 20:13:09
The league's "owners and directors test", formerly the "fit and proper persons test", bars people from owning a substantial stake in a club if they have "unspent convictions" including "for offences of dishonesty".

Cellino spent 16 days in custody last year and then sometime from Jan/ Feb unitil May under some sort of house arrest for "income tax irregularities". Found this on the net from post about his boat being siezed.

Is FL just been thorough given their history of NOT protecting british clubs from all talk and no dosh wanna-be owners. I'm sure he has money to back up his intentions, hopefully, but I'm pleased FL are having a good look to be sure. And FL are releasing statements so we know what the hold up is or at who's door it lies at.

Think the FL should be more specific and up front if their issue lies with Cellino past or ongoing outstanding legal business.

Who knows, not me, just wish takeover was done with Cellino given stamp of being 'cosher' - excuse spelling.

That story is dead in the water!

Bates evaded tax didn't he, cellino hasn't done any worse than him, great fl checking him out, but how naughty has he been and would it really affect the future running of our club?

Why would Celino 'evade' £400,000 tax and spend well over a million pound on Leeds wages last month? Are you sure you mean 'evade' and not 'avoid' as the two words are totally different?

26 Feb 2014 06:02:49
Suggest you look up the definition of evade and the answer comes back as 'to avoid' - they mean the same thing. Those who have put they don't believe this story haven't seen the italian press reports and the boat has been impounded before the court hearing on March 18th. Clearly Cellino has questions to answer and the Italian tax don't trust him from his previous convictions.

Evaded means to avoid, or dodge as in (400,000 pound tax 'evasion').

NOT even going to hit the link to the above article.
If Cellinos worth billions, if like he said he will buy E-R the day after he gets clearance.
WHY oh WHY would he risk this venture for our beloved club for a paltry 400k tax evation?

Andy MOT

The 400k is the import tax on the boat itself, hence why it has been seized. He has to pay the tax plus 165k fine to get it released. His lawyers claim he wasn't aware that it would incur import duty. looks more like an oversight than tax evasion.

This has nothing to do with the FL decision, neither does his previous record as it is 'spent' under UK law. His impending embezzlement case can't be held against him either as he not (yet at least) been found guilty of anything.

FL statement is pretty clear, they are still waiting for documents from both Cellino and GFH.

For a full acquittal, however, was argued in a long and passionate language from defender John Cocco: according to his attorney, Cellino, is not representative of American society, could use the boat thanks to a contract signed and formalized. For lawyer Cocco: charges do not prove fraudulent intent of his client, on the contrary, he complied with the rules in force between the United States and Italy. Cellino - argues the prosecutor's office - he would have bought the sail boat in the U.S., travelling then to Italy with a tourist permit, but later reiterated the position in front of the IRS in Le pore. Now the judge will have to decide who is right and pronounce the judgement scheduled for March 18, at 9 am, at the opening of the hearing. this is nothing in real terms, he goes in front of the magistrate in march and it gets sorted, hardly an international bad guy. stop drama queening. MOT

Correct. This is about import duty. The boat was purchased in the USA and brought to Italy on a visit with the intention of returning to the USA where Celinio actually resides. Typical Italian crazy justice. Would you feel aggrieved by this. No wonder he refused to pay. The Fl should not be interested in this at all.

If Cellino wants the club so badly why doesn't he sign the company that's buying us over to his eldest son who I guess is whiter than white . Then if he still wants his name above the door he can try to take it over once the deal is done . Feel free to disagree as I know nothing about the business world

I will in accounts and can confirm that tax evasion and tax avoidance are 2 separate things. Avoidance is frowned upon, evasion is illegal

Folk; As a European citizen; if you buy any boat anywhere in the world and sail it home, you are importing goods to the EU. As such, VAT must be paid to level required by that country. On arrival, customs officials will ask to see a VAT receipt for purchase of the boat (you should probably declare it in the first instance). If you have not paid VAT then you will be asked to do so, which will be a particular percentage. Where boats are concerned, this is often under a reduced rate (given they are pretty expensive items).
If you do not pay the VAT on your purchase, you will end up in court.
Yes, the boat will be seized by customs officials prior to the court case as, until the VAT has been paid (not import duty), the boat should remain in 'bonded' status prior to being deemed a commodity in free circulation.
EU VAT laws are a pain in the posterior and Cellino was quite possibly just chancing his arm and hoping nobody noticed the big shiny new boat in the harbour. But then, he would then have to try and re-register it, at which point, the authorities would ask to see. you guessed it; a VAT receipt.
CityWhite

In the dictionary they both still say avoiding dodging escaping cleverness or trickery, same, basically doing all they can to avoid paying tax!

25 Feb 2014 17:33:09
Leeds to sign Wickham
. I can't out my source as he is proper in the no at leeds, or go on then I will reveal all Survivor 10000% fact, I bet you are all going to ER now to get your Wikham shirts printed, Seriously though I believe he will be hear by Saturdays game. A few rumours going round we have enquiried about a Bolton player, And no I'm not starting a Beckford rumour

25 Feb 2014 14:08:40
heard wickham maybe coming on loan.

25 Feb 2014 15:18:19
Well nothing possibly further on the takeover until March 13th, its not a Friday, another two weeks.

I am going to try to be patient and remain positive it will happen.

We got butland and that was before the 13th

25 Feb 2014 13:48:36
Football league have stated today that they are still in discussions about Leeds ownership and mymay not have an answer until 13th March! How long is this going to last? I thought GFH took a while to complete their deal but this is ridiculous

As i've said in previous posts, the football league will put off, put off and put off again giving cellino approval for this takeover untill they have a reason to refuse him (ie, he gets found guilty of embezzlement), or he gets fed up waiting and buys a club somewhere else in europe. This is as they know when he gets control of leeds, we'll be back with the big boys and that is the last thing they want, at the moment the have us just where they want us. They hate leeds utd, always have and always will. What we need to do is protest against the league and not cellino and I include lust in that, let's tell them all leeds utd fans are fed up of them shafting our club

Its amazing how people get info twisted and go off on one on this site, fl meeting (as scheduled) has nothing to do with us, if its sorted before then then itll be done we don't need to wait till that date.

25 Feb 2014 09:29:33
So BMD in talks with an unnamed striker so who is it

Someone rubbish no doubt if his track record is anything to go by!

Going by BMD’s recent successes it’s probably Arthur Scargill.

Says on web site that its gudetti from man ciry/stoke

Its Guidetti, although he wouldn't make a massive difference due to awful service

No one knows, they're unnamed.

Guidetti fits the bill perfectly, hardly kicked a competitive football all season. Not match fit and not rated by his club manager. Get him signed on a long contract asap.

Connor Wickham also mentioned

Daily Mail reporting wickham

Hes also after conor wickham

Weve scored 43 goals this season which suggests that the comment above regarding no service is tosh . We were unlucky to lose Dexter Blackstock to injury, and have needed a replacement since then .

Guidetti only scored 20 in 23 at Feyenoord, so i'm guessing that's why his manager doesn't rate him .

The Irish kid

. More like Bob Crow

43 goals, that's low compared to the other sides in the top half. No shots on target for 2 games. We lack creativity in the middle.