09 May 2017 20:43:34
Looking back at Cellino's time at Leeds if in fact he is on his way out I think his time here, overall, has been one of the better periods over the last ten years or so. When talking with friends/other supporters most of the time when his name is mentioned I get 'he's a crook' and or 'he's bringing the club into disrepute etc etc. ' However, whilst he has made mistakes he has:
A) Eventually got the right manager for the longer term
B) We are in a healthier position and it has been said we are one of the better run clubs in the football league
C) Its enjoyable going to Elland Road now as it looks as if we are going forward
D) We may have a better pre season than in the past When Cellino arrived we were in a mess and he has improved matters no end I am sure some supporters will say it's down to Gary Monk. Without Cellino's backing there would be no Gary Monk at the club.
If AR turns out OK, Cellino will have done what Bates couldn't - leave the club in a better position with better owbners than we've had for a long time. Even the pie tax affair could be forgiven. If I had been getting the abuse Cellino and his family was getting I would have probably thought up something far more drastic.
It wouldn't be right but it would be understandable. All in all looking around the other clubs, with a few exceptions, we could have done a lot worse.
09 May 2017 22:08:08
You're right Hess. I think unless you're a Leeds fan then you would be forgiven for thinking he's a nutter/crook or worse! I definitely haven't agreed with everything he has done but he leaves the club in a much better state than when he bought it, and I for one am thankful to Mr Cellino for that. 👏
09 May 2017 22:39:49
Well said Hess, If Cellino hadn't saved us, from Bates plot, we would be gone. Sold to the only Arabs in the world with no money, they happily stripped us bare. He has made plenty of mistakes, but has us in better postion, finacally and a better team. With the appointment's being made at the club it all looking like a bright white future. MOT
10 May 2017 12:48:08
Thanks MC for the roller coaster ride of memories. I and all LU fans (well most) are extremely grateful for what you've done for this great club. I'll buy you a beer if you ever pop into my local.
10 May 2017 14:26:50
Apart from manager mistakes what did Massimo do wrong
10 May 2017 15:05:17
Wex You serious? 1. Continental style approach with coach. We're in England not Italy. 2. Under investment until summer window of 2016. 3. Under investment in January 2016b window. 4. Bizarre behaviour during certain press conferences. 5. Pie tax. Poor timing if nothing else. 6. Mcbadgekisser transfer. 7. Mismanagement of fan expectations generally. Don't get wrong Wex. He did good in the end. He found Radz. Will eventually be regarded as when Bates found Abramovich for chelski. I have no problem with cellino or his family.
11 May 2017 01:33:25
always been a massive fan of MC, could see he knew his stuff and was successful with last club and would be with us. He took us at our lowest ebb, we had debt, no ground, GFH hanging on like leeches, poor sqaud with all our assest sold by bates and replaced by journey men freebies. We had a squad heading for league one and a bank balacned heading for luqidiation.
He saved leeds in the very literal sense, he turned the finaces round and took us out of a black hole and made us stable. he took us from unbuyable to a good business to invest in. He also did this while making us stronger on the pitch. he invested in squad, hired many managers but each one was an improvment on the last, he took us from heading to league one to just missing out on playoffs. yes he made mistakes but I would argue few indiviuals have been more important or better that him for leeds (two expectpions only being don and wilko) but unlike don and wilko he also improved on the pitch and in the bank.
I thank MC from the bottom of my heart and can not understand how anyone can say anything other than thank you and thank god that MC took over the shambles that was leeds and built the platform to make us great again, my only regret is he won't be part of leeds when we do finally go up. MOT and god bless MC
11 May 2017 07:15:27
It is a myth that we are out of debt GFH are still a major creditor with a long term loan on the books
11 May 2017 09:55:06
well notts ain't your glass half empty at the moment. this might be the case I'm not an account for leeds. what i do know is we must be a better prospect as someone is buying us which wouldn't of happened had st Cellino stepped in and turned our club around. my point is faults yes. but overall MC's reign can only be seen as a massive success both on and off the pitch and the turnaround he has done in just three years has been nothing short of a miracle. outside of don and wilko no one has done more good or turned this club round more than MC. We should all thank our lucky stars this crazy itie decided to save us
11 May 2017 11:05:11
This is not a Cellino is bad argument BW and yes I can be pessimistic however I also feel that it is important to form an opinion based upon the highs and low. Cellino has improved the operating balance sheet, there is no doubt. He has reduced he wage bill, increased revenue streams and used the transfer market to operate at a net profit. He has moved GFH away from ownership, which has made us more attractive to investors but he has converted that ownership to debt. He has loaded his own purchase of the club onto the club's books as debt, which has been paid back to him and then converted the debt into equity, again making the club more favourable to investors. Cellino has received loan repayments and received payment for his shareholding and will leave the club with a profit. There is nothing wrong with that as he took the risk, he should benefit from the reward. I do not buy into this opinion that competing investors groups would been better because I don't believe they either had the money or were waiting to pick the club up for a song which would have probably mean't admin and relegation to Div 1. In summary, improved the operating balance sheet but the club still has debt. There you go BW a balanced opinion
11 May 2017 13:23:08
Superb reply Notts.
11 May 2017 14:09:18
Great retort George
11 May 2017 15:48:48
Riveting riposte Speedy
11 May 2017 18:10:14
I try George. High praise indeed 😁
11 May 2017 18:41:53
I am glass half empty but with MC it is all love, best thing to happen to leeds since wilko, saved the club i loved and improved it beyound my expectations in three years both on and on pitch. I do love to be right as I was with wood and now with MC and as much as i love to pat myself on the back and roll eyes at all past nay-sayers this is not about that it is my blanaced view he took us from poxy sqaud to good, no one will buy to wold, going into admin to normal debt. I personally have only ever said great things about mc as i could see this coming and while i get less posotive balanced views like yours and understand it I am amazed that so many idiots are still slating the man and only have bad things to say. I was shocked as I expect better from leeds fans but it seems even this great club has some berks supporting it, just glad none of them are on here and just on FB
11 May 2017 19:23:00
Well done BW, you are the modern day Nostradamus.
11 May 2017 21:48:41
Was Nostradamus the one with the humped back?
11 May 2017 21:54:58
Indeed Notts. Remember him challenging my Brighton to win the league prediction start of season. He said they were "pony".
12 May 2017 01:02:32
That's Quasimodo, speedy.
12 May 2017 18:50:55
Oh yes George. That does ring a bell!