Leeds Banter Archive May 08 2017

 

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08 May 2017 20:12:17
Karma would surely be this. CT antics on Saturday give him a reputation, no one will take him because they think he's a bad thing to have in the dressing room; therefore his only option is to join Rotherham!

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08 May 2017 22:55:14
dont think that will happen, end of the day he is a talented prem league left back, many clubs will snap him up and this will not even be considered. look at cantona, Louis Suarez and Maradonna rep don't matter, ok they are all better than taylor but he will still find a club. What Ct did was bad but still think it was poor man management from monk he should of sold talyor or made him number one and played him not benched him.

If i was talyor I'd of been annoyed to be kept then benched then missed out of playoff's i'd of said don't play me in the important games I ain't playing in the pointless ones as annoyed to miss out on playoffs after team went to pot. Also see pontus did the same but this is not mentioned as we love pontus. wait and see if pontus is here next year (which i don't think he will be) we will be getting this all again and see if he is wearing a magic hat then.

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09 May 2017 00:01:04
Good point bw
Really no point keeping him really. Hardly played. Should of sold in january. Poor management that was. Leave the lad alone Its football. Some you win some you lose. Think we treated him worse than he did us.

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09 May 2017 06:42:40
Told me he's going to Liverpool a few weeks ago but nothing set in stone until he can talk to Liverpool reps.

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09 May 2017 06:47:08
Bermo, I said it would be karma, not it would happen!

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09 May 2017 07:16:48
Cellino made the decision not to sell Taylor. I doubt Monk had any say in the matter

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09 May 2017 10:29:02
come on notts, you don't know that. when its good its monk when its bad its mc. if you look at everything it would suggest it was monk, monk didn't play him when he should of or sold him. monk took similar hard line stance with pontus. I don't mind managers taking the hard line, worked for some great managers like fergie, big sam, pulis etc, . trouble is it didn't pay off. our end of season form was so poor that is suggest taciticly things were at fault and that the team could not be picked up or boosted which again is poor man management. If we'd of sacked monk with ten games to go and brought in rowett, redknapp or tony moybury things suggest we'd be in playoffs. i'm not saying monk should of been sacked, but i am saying a lot of this lands on his door not MC's

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09 May 2017 11:30:00
Bit harsh on Monk and Leeds United you can't manage someone who doesn't want to be managed and probably sees his agent as his manager. Obviously Taylor was kicking against the club. Wanted to play when it suits him not when it suits Leeds. Stuff him never has Monk said he doesn't believe in Leeds

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09 May 2017 11:13:54
Think we should sold Taylor in the summer and cashed in his normal ability has not been present since and now we know why . I don't care who the player is if they want to go sell them, let's keep the players and sign the player's who want to wear shirt and give 100 per cent .

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09 May 2017 11:32:39
B.W I do agree but also think C T was unhappy about not being allowed to go in the summer, his game just has not been what it was. Every player has a price and from us to Man u if a player wants to go else where then it usually ends up the case . I think Pilot and Wood have been great and would love them to be at Leeds next season but only if they want to, I would rather they go now than keep reading what team is going to sign them . I'm aware any player having an excellent season will get attention but would like to start with a decent squad that we can retain the whole season

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09 May 2017 13:24:47
Yes, ask everyone now; hand on heart - do you want to play for us? Anyone not saying YES before you even finish the question then reluctantly, but happily, show them the door Now, and recruit some young hungry player to fill the gap. let's get a talented team who leave everything on the pitch. what's that we say. You can forgive a mistake but you can never forgive not trying.

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09 May 2017 13:34:52
i agree dog, although every time i have seen taylor this season i thought he played well. good point about wood pontus and all players no point in keeping if they want to go, i hope they will stayt, think wood will pontus wont. sadly it is hard with players having all power most of the time, i just dnt get why we kept him but then monk acted like he was 2nd choice to a poorer player that's what would annoyed me. not seeling me one thing to then not play me i would of smashed up the place so in that sense only i can see where ct was coming from, i didn't see his performance drop but many of you see more of him than me, if that was the cae that is poor, once on pitch you should give all

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09 May 2017 13:48:43
BW if you are going to pull the "you don't know that" argument then I will say the same to you. I don't disagree that Monk chose not to play him but Taylor's form did not suggest he should be guaranteed a starting spot. I am not turning this into a Cellino is bad argument. The point I am making is that Taylor's contract disagreements started well before Monk came to the club. As for your comment about Tony Mowbray, I will assume you are on the wind up.

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09 May 2017 15:08:40
Taylors form was ok. Whenever he played. Better than average Blame monk. He chose the teams. he's the manager. He lost us the playoffs. As bw says. If wed have sacked him 8-10 weeks out. We would be in playoffs.

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09 May 2017 15:59:48
mowbary did alright, and what i know is we was offered millions for taylor (not sure how much but between 5-7.5m) so why turn that away to not play him. I did not see any dip from taylor and feel it was fans wanting to see it as when i saw him play he was good and gave all. his performances did warrant starting him as he was our best player and only specialist left back.

if we didn't sell we had to play all game every game to have best chance of going up or at very least to get moneys worth. why turn millions down if not going to play. this was a racket.

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09 May 2017 17:27:26
Saw him play often this season BW ? His form was not good.

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09 May 2017 18:58:32
i must of seen him play 10-12 times thought he was good every game, didn't see his form dip or lack of effort

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09 May 2017 20:17:04
Must look a different player on TV. His form has been poor this season

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09 May 2017 20:49:47
Bloody Nora Aus how can you say Monk lost us the play offs? Small squad cost us, nothing more.

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09 May 2017 20:56:09
Bermo mate he was ok this season I thought although not as good as last season. Reason he wasn't sold is because MC is a stubborn whatever. However the club will still get close to the quoted 5miilion offered by wba from tribunal

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09 May 2017 20:59:46
Bit harsh Notts. Just because BW is from Bermondsey don't mean he ain't seen any games. I live across the Irish Sea and I saw 29 games this season. Nuff said!

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09 May 2017 21:06:52
seen him live a few times played decent as well. looking over season highlights no goals seem to come from his thought but he did set up a few. I know i got it against beradi on left but he was at fault for number of goals and set up nothing

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09 May 2017 21:32:07
Corky, my comment is not a slight on those who can't attend games but rather a belief that you see more of what is or is not happening live rather than on TV. Stating that a player has had a good season despite other posters saying he has not based on seeing that player a handful of times does not suggest a representative sample on which to make that statement

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09 May 2017 22:01:51
Having seen all the home games, Taylor was hit and miss all season. Bernard I, on the other hand, has been a class act . wherever he played

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10 May 2017 09:14:53
Bernard, blowing your own trumpet a bit there aren't you. I always assumed you were called Al! 😂

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10 May 2017 10:22:30
sorry . damn autocorrect, lesson learned, I'll only post from my pc now :)

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10 May 2017 12:15:33
No, leave it Al. Some of the funniest posts come from autocorrect going wrong! 😉

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10 May 2017 15:12:37
Well wrote Notts

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10 May 2017 16:24:13
Good to have you back George

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10 May 2017 18:37:11
Thanks bro

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11 May 2017 11:53:28
Nott's just seen this on a sports website Taylor has impressed for Leeds this season, averaging five defensive actions per game, while he has also provided an attacking threat, creating 18 chances for his team-mates and providing three assists. mind you don't think they have a season ticket so what do they know. I hate it when people use stats to prove how good a player has been performing it is such a silly way of doing things.

i mean ok wood scored 30 goals, but did he really have a good season? think unless they have a season ticket their opinion really shouldn't count and not go to print. that said got a lot of season ticket holders on FB who don't have a clue so maybe you can have a decent opinion without going every week? just an idea

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11 May 2017 19:19:52
I didn't say that but why let any facts get in the way of you labouring a point.

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08 May 2017 17:47:48
Has anyone else compared last years points tally to this years? We got 16 more this season than last. That's decent enough, but from the position we were in 8 games ago a bloody shambles!

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08 May 2017 20:55:01
Yeh and next year we'll get 16 points more than this year and get promoted!

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09 May 2017 06:48:12
Maybe cork, hope you're right

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08 May 2017 15:56:41
If I was to select 10 teams in next seasons chamionship which could get promoted I would say, all of the play-off contenders (obviously excluding 1, which I don't know) , us, Villa, Derby, Brentford, Norwich, Swansea, and hull, depending on who goes down. Either way I can't wait for another competitive year

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08 May 2017 18:44:14
I will need to see who we have left in our squad next season before i can put us in as play-off contenders.

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08 May 2017 22:56:17
agree very hard to call. I think norwich will be promotion favs next season but they are letting a lot of players go. think sunderland will do a leeds and be league one soon.

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08 May 2017 13:06:15
End of season. Looking at the performances over the year my view is that the following players are worth retaining:

Green (other keepers depending on who is available elsewhere although Peacock Farrell seems a prospect) Ayling; Jannson; Bartley (if we can buy him) ; Beradi; Cooper (until we can get a decent replacement or two) ; Bridcutt. O'Kane;Vierra; Roofe; Wood . Players who may have potential: Coyle, Denton, Phillips (maybe) Sacko I am definitely not keen on: Pedroza, Sacko; Hernandez; Dallas; Barrow We need at least two centre halves; two out wide men; a box to box creative midfielder; a striker and above all pace.

Players who can actually pass to team mates consistently and at the right time would be great but that might be a bridge too far. Not even going to mention Taylor

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08 May 2017 15:15:39
O'kane and vieira could be a big partnership for us next season lads. Been thinking about it and the driving force from midfield, they both can challenge, run, and have decent distribution. I'd prefer to play those two and watch them create a partnership than play bridcutt and have a 5 at the back.

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08 May 2017 15:51:37
Players with questions about there future with us are, Silvestre, Turnbull, Cooper, Grimes, Barrow, Doukara and Antonsson, Would bring in for these a Left Back, 2 centre Half's, two centre midfield, 2 wingers, a number 10 and two strikers one with pace, Put that with what we have and the squad would look like it could challenge top 2. With Taylor that makes 8 out and 10 in so the wage bill should not increase dramatically, it would just depend on the quality, no point in bringing in journeymen or players not much better than what's going out

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08 May 2017 17:15:13
Pedraza is gone

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08 May 2017 17:41:17
Agree with most of it but during the close season, like it or not, will be looking to replace Wood. Just hope we get top dollar. How is this for radical thinking (in place of O'Kane/Viera) Berardi/Dallas?

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08 May 2017 20:59:44
Couldn't agree more Sammo on Viera and OKane. The one thing which bermused me with Monk this season was his underuse of OKane.

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09 May 2017 07:50:05
Here's one for you all then. O'kane bought for 850K last season, aged 25. Luke Murphy bought 3 years ago aged 24 for £1M. Who's the better midfielder?

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08 May 2017 09:30:33
With Blackburn going down, does anyone else think we should maybe put a cheeky bit in for Danny Graham? 31 and probably not going to be a starter but a consistent, proven 1 in 3 striker at this level as back up for Wood if we can hang on to him would take a load of pressure off.

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08 May 2017 11:00:42
Why would you want to take a player from a relegated team? that's no going forward

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08 May 2017 11:05:24
There's better in other leagues. I'll be honest, with the appointments that AR has made so far suggests to me that very little English talent will be brought in this summer. I can see a lot of Spanish, Italian, Portuguese themed players introduced. Let's just hope they have funny names and football ability. I know you lot love a good chant

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08 May 2017 17:42:02
How about a different Danny - Danny Ings?

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08 May 2017 21:03:09
Personally I'd take him if the deal was right. Good player with experience to come off bench and the odd start. Works hard and has good movement. Ok, I hope we are shopping at a higher level but he could still offer something.

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08 May 2017 21:04:54
Just because a player was in a team that was relegated doesn't necessarily mean they are no good. Even a carp team can have a few stars who go on to do better elsewhere. That said, I probably wouldn't have Graham.

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08 May 2017 21:48:36
Obviously better players available, surely every team and his dog will put a loan request in for Abraham for instance, and I actually feel like it would be prudent to ship Antonsson out and bring in two anyway. My point on Graham is that he still scored 12 this year in a team that went down, he has scored 1 in 3 pretty darn consistently.

If we had kept Antenucci this year I think his extra goals from the bench would have kept us in that top 6, Graham off the bench would offer us a similar return, he will be cheap and at his age he might be happy to be coming on as a sub in the Champ rather than dropping down to Lg1.

let's be fair bringing in more goals to our attacking mid is the priority just thought he could do a proven job (less risk) without breaking the bank, more to spend on replacing the 3 behind Wood.

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09 May 2017 22:05:50
Let's not effective about, go for Asombalonga!

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10 May 2017 10:28:35
damn it . more auto correct, it should have read . Let's not eff about, go for Asombalonga :)

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