Leeds Banter Archive April 08 2012

08 Apr 2012 22:15:13
Hate the fact everyone saying 'we're going backwards with warnock' we may be playing badly but playing Badly with graysons players

Don't worry most of us are with you, summer of change is upon us, next term will show, also loved watching the the shoe leather Warnock gave Thompson after he got sent off, SG would of just let him walk past whist putting his fingers on his chin and thinking hmmm can't wait to talk dribble in post match interview, marching on with Warnock

The reason we seem to be going backwards is because we are scoring less goals and are less creative going forward .
warnock as got us letting less goals in .well in most of the games which as got us looking more like a team . its not warnocks fault that the players have dropped in form . if you look at our last 3-4 seasons we have lost form after jan so why would it be different now. next season if given the money warnock will give us a great chance of getting promoted . i never liked the guy but he has a proven record and in warnock we must believe. just hope bates does or he will be walking before start of season

Bates's explicit reason for sacking Grayson was to get the most from the CURRENT playing squad whilst we were still in with a chance of the playoffs. It hasn't really worked now if we're honest has it?

Surely it stands to reason that if Warnock is so much better as a manager than Grayson then he should be getting MORE from the same players, not less. To argue otherwise flies in the face of logic.

All you apologists for Bates/Warnock seem to want to have your cake and eat it. We were out of the top six so it was Larry's fault. Warnock has clearly taken us backwards by halving our average points per game tally and yet somehow it's all still Grayson's fault. It doesn't matter who the players are, that not exactly a reasoned argument.

If you think things are really better now than they were on 30th January then you are clearly deluded. The table doesn't lie and we're in real danger of dropping into the bottom half this week.

I'll give Warnock the benefit of a season before making a judgement because that's the least he deserves, but the real problem still remains - Bates.

Zzzzzzz
The Anti Bates brigade again.
Bates isn't going anywhere so either accept it or **** off.
By your token of logic with points. Readings manager was rubbish but is now world class.

What does it matter where we finish now? We can't go up and we can't go down! Now is the time for Warnock to try a few fringe players out and see what we have for next season.

The way warnock's setting his side to play i suggest he signs two proven forwards, Peacock and Bailey

The fixtures warnock has has since larry left have been quite difficult,which teams above us did we beat when sg was there?

We've just lost three on the bounce AT HOME to teams below us. You can be as scathing a you like about the Anti Bates crowd - we're not going anywhere. We LOVE our club and that's why we're going to fight him. Those who support his asset stripping should be f*cking off - armchair fans in the main.

I've just got home from watching yet another utterly inept display by manager and team - need goals - take off your top scorer and the only player who's played well all game. Well done Colin...

08 Apr 2012 21:48:51
I'd Love us to go get Chad evans
Gj

Ched*

08 Apr 2012 21:22:55
Massive clear out to allow new players to come in. The following to leave.

1. Mika Vayrynen (dodged with injuries)
2. Mikael Forssell (not fit enough and past his prime)
3. Alex Bruce (not good enough)
4. Andy O'Brien (off the field problems)
5. Lloyd Sam (not good enough)
6. Michael Brown (past his best)
7. Paul Robinson (loan expired)
8. Danny Webber (loan expired)
8. Billy Payner (loaned out or sold as he is still under contract)
9. Maik Taylor (retiring)

Sorry to see Beechio go but needs must!
10. Ross McCormack (sold to raise funds, not quick enough.
11. Beechio (sold, again not quick enough)

Players who might be coming in.

1. Paddy Kenny
2. Jason Pearce
3. Matt Mills
4. Clint Hill
5. Darron Ambrose
6. Tommy Smith
7. Another forward

Brown has to be kept and why would you sell our top goalscorer?

Webber ain't on loan,
And why would we go for Townsend after he didn't want to play for us 2 months ago

I wouldn't wipe my arse with Townsend he has no football brain

1st poster said nothing about Townsend. Think you mean tommy smith who was recalled by spurs

Tommy Smith is a QPR player and was not recalled by Spurs, that was Adam Smith! Who mentioned Andros Townsend? Jesus, can't you lot read or at least do some research before making yourselves look stupid?

Strikes me that just about every QPR player on the fringes is being linked with us by somebody. Don't forget NW has an absolute multitude of connections in the game and could probably find someone at any club. Ched Evans is a possibility I think, as are Clint Hill and Herman Hreidarsson. But time and money available will see. You can't refurbish your house until you have emptied out all the old rubbish to make space can you?

Michael Brown, Paul Robinson, Danny Webber & Becchio will be going nowhere.
I doubt Paynter will be going either, he's likely to be warming the bench.
Alex Bruce has a chance of staying.
Ross McCormack will only be going if he wants to go or if there's a problem between him and Warnock.
I hope we stick by OB personally. No club felt the pain of losing Gary Speed more than us, so if any club should stand by a player with depression, it's us.
The rest aren't good enough.
Expect Lonnergan to want a word with Mr Warnock when Paddy turns up also.
Expect to see Ched Evans arrive if the blunts don't go up.

08 Apr 2012 14:34:42
Any rumours ED which have something to back them up? QPR raid on the cards? {Ed020's Note - most probably, i've heard a strong rumour that anton ferdinand is on his way, but its all speculation atm. we'll know when they want us to know!}

This is exactly the type of player a team who are wanting to make a real attempt at getting promoted should be aiming for.
I am genuinely excited about the people that already are been and will be linked with us this close season instead of the laughing stock we have become in the transfer market for the last few seasons.

To the 2nd poster, it's only rumours bud, don't get carried away it's not exactly rio, just don't expect any big names even under Warnock, if we do get a big name in the summer then it's a bonus.

08 Apr 2012 12:04:10
GK: Alex Smithies, Craig Gordon, Marton Fullop, Manuel Almunia, Thomasz Kuszczak
DEF: Stephen Kelly, Dedryk Boyata, Fitz Hall,Clint Hill, Ryan Nelson
MID: Danny Murphy (May come if offered the captain's armband), Josh McEachran (not getting playing time at Chelsea or Swansea), Mohamed Diame, Danny Guthrie, Somen Tchoyi, Hendry Thomas(would be helped to settle in by Nunez), Sammy Clingan
CF: Denis Stracqualursi (would be good for/with Becchio),Ricardo Fuller, Ched Evans, Ivan Klasnic

All at the end of their contract at the end of the season (with the exception of Stracqualursi, who there seems to be a bit of doubt his contract with Tigres)
I suspect at least a few of them will be wearing our shirt next year and I reckon we could get a lot of them.
Me personally, I'd like Murphy, Smithies, Evans, Hill & Stracqualursi

Murphy and Brown partnership would have been good 5 years ago.

Most of those players are on too high a wage

Smithies, Hill, Hall, Clingan & Evans possibles.

I'd like Gordon, Boyata, Diame, Guthrie, Clingan, Evans and Klasnic

I'd like to know who found the keys to Papa Smurfs safe? No chance of majority of these. Do you really think offering Danny Murphy the Captains armband will make him drop a division and about 40K a week? Dream on mate.....

08 Apr 2012 10:33:31
This won't be a popular shout but I think we should consider dropping Becchio next season. Despite him working hard and scoring a few goals, his 'target man' presence seems to make us play long ball all the time. He doesn't win too many headers and when he does he flicks them on to the opposition. I'd be more in favour of playing McCormack & Somma (once fit) for a style of play with a bit more guile. If that fails bring Becchio on for the last 20 minutes to shake them up.

"He doesn't win too many headers....."

I take it you don't watch too many games then?

Becchio will stay as he is the type of forward Warnock likes.He just needs a good poacher along side him.Some one who can work of his lay offs,A Lee Chapman style player would be ideal he was not blessed with skill but he knew where the back of the net was.

Like Davide Somma?

I for one dont think that becchio wins headers as he gets beat to the ball in the air and its realy really frustrating so i think that you dont go to many games as he does this repetedly over and over.

So many idiots come on here!

Im not saying that i dont like becchio my point is that hes not the best at winning headers and when he does win headers it more often than not goes to the opposition so i would prefer leeds to play it on the floor rather than rely on becchio winning headers as it doesnt work out so if you disagree you clearly dont go to any matches you armchair fan.

08 Apr 2012 01:49:13
i wouldnt mind darren ambrose or adam lallana to pair up with clayton in midfield but i cant see s'ton selling any of their best players especially if they get promoted.MOT

08 Apr 2012 01:35:59
To all Leeds fans please can we not have a repeat of last summer where we were linked with every player in the world please? Everyone has to remember that really most stories about it are journalists putting 2 and 2 together to make 5

I don't care how many players we're linked with - but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE no doylems bringing up the name of Alan Smith!

HE'S FINISHED!!