Leeds Banter Archive April 06 2016

06 Apr 2016 22:46:42
Yes I've been thinking that for sometime!

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07 Apr 2016 11:15:55
Pete. You need to go on a short course entitled " Remembering to click on the 'reply to the above post' button"

07 Apr 2016 12:38:41
That's what I was thinking.

07 Apr 2016 21:48:28
i agree 100% with original post, makes more sense than most of mine.

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06 Apr 2016 18:06:28
It looks like most of us on here think we need at least one maybe two quality centre backs, at least one ball playing midfielder, and one or two top strikers. Oh yeah and a decent coach.
Can anyone tell me why this is going to happen next season if Cellino is not prepared to pay top money?
I keep saying it I know, but you have to speculate to accumulate.
I don't want Cellino to go down the Ridsdale route, and he couldn't anyway with the fair play rules, but you can't deny we saw some fantastic football during those days even it it was built on sand.
There are plenty of clubs that have never been anywhere near the Champions League final but they are "financially sound" (how boring) .
Give me the ups and downs of being a Leeds fan any day. However I'm getting sick of waiting for the ups to come again!

06 Apr 2016 18:18:26
Screw fair play rules. It's only a fine. Plus if crowds return due to good players playing well in good team the fine will be reduced.

06 Apr 2016 18:30:32
Oh and it's
3 central defenders
Cover for Taylor
Ball playing midfielder
3 strikers

If we buy well this will cause us to go close in 17. How ironic!

06 Apr 2016 21:37:04
Don't you mean 2016/2016b, George.

07 Apr 2016 00:29:27
Deda
You just spoiled my joke for our NY day fixture. Oh well.

07 Apr 2016 11:18:26
You have to be quick on the draw George. Funny Mrs Integrity says you usually are.

07 Apr 2016 12:46:07
Deda
If you saw my missus you'd be quick on the draw too.

06 Apr 2016 16:46:51
Our main problem is at the front.
1 goal at home to mediocre Qpr.
1 fluke against Rotherham not enough.
If we had a tally we could stand a defensive error. All defenders will err under pressure sometimes.
1 goal will not win many matches.

06 Apr 2016 17:46:47
Well. Exactly! Totally agree.

06 Apr 2016 19:07:17
Whitesee
You are correct. This means attack needs sorting first as top priority but defence also needs attention.

06 Apr 2016 20:44:14
all good teams build from the back, sam alladyce, pulis our last stint at glory come from Grahams good defesive work for o'dreay to mess up.

07 Apr 2016 07:25:13
We also have a midfield that create very little.

07 Apr 2016 07:51:02
So, we can't score, defend or create much . Sounds like a good base to build on, roll on next season, there's bound to be three worse teams right?

07 Apr 2016 12:40:11
That's depressing Lancaster.

06 Apr 2016 15:06:22
So we all agree. Ditch Bamba. Wootten as sweeper anyone. I think his effort alone deserves per reverence. Buy two defenders ditch Bamba and see what happens with the others.
Which begs the question
Who is a def yes and who a def no in midfield. I'm split here. The only midfielder that I've liked every time I see him is aditemi or whatever his name is. Don't like mows hair. Cooks stamina. Brid and murph too negative though brid ok. Dallas and other two supposed wingers zzzzzz. Boring. So I reckon. Keep 1-3 drop 3 and buy 2-3.
Go fat man go!

06 Apr 2016 09:14:51
Like it or not Berardi; Belusci; Cooper and Taylor are the best back four combination we have. On the question of how many mistakes can you make before you are dropped they all make serious mistakes during the game. Last night for example Berardi did well going forward but made several mistakes during the game one being immediately after Belusci's first (both miskicking a ball in the 6 yard box) - a real comedy of errors. Cooper had one of his better games but still managed to have at least one serious error. Taylor made several errors over the game which resulted him getting a tongue lashing from Cooper. If you drop any of them who would you bring in@ Bamba? I've lost count of the mistakes he makes. It W=would be a disaster if he was brought back. Wooton? Don't think so. He is an accident waiting to happen. As I have said many times we concede due to individual errors and they all make them - some more than others. All you can do is play your best back four, Berardi; Cooper; Belusci and Taylor and hope that we recruit better next season. Bamba and Wooton are not the answer they are part of the problem.

06 Apr 2016 09:41:58
Agree Hesslian, we have three centre backs in Cooper, Bellusci and Bamba who all have the ability to make a serious mistake most games. It becomes a lottery picking the right combination. In regards to Bellusci, he is the most frustrating because he is probably the best centre back we have with the ball at his feet but his decision making is awful. Coupled with his massive ego which makes him believe he is better than he actual is makes him an extremely self destructive influence to the team.

06 Apr 2016 10:12:17
sorry but I honestly think give wooten a chance at center back. lots of people on this site where saying how he imporved, then he was played out of position. I am certain when looking back over the season bell might have the most good games but also have the most ciritical errors by a long shot. also bell plays for himself and his attitude is disgusting. I would drop him for anyone even fat man himself just to shake him up. let bell know he has to improve, concertrate and not prat about. also wootten might impress (he might not be worth a shot even if bad it might improve bell as bell and cooper is best pairing) I also think bell and bamba might be decent. one thing for sure bell is our biggest liability and needs to be punished by dropping for attitude alone.

06 Apr 2016 10:40:05
Agree Hessian, Bellusci can be a liability when he has his mad moments but mainly he's our strongest defender. Haven't seen either of the last two games, so don't know exactly what his cock ups consisted of, but when a player makes a mistake that costs us a goal, it's almost certainly a defender. And as I've said many times before, our position this season is not because we have conceded too many goals or let in too many silly ones - it's because we haven't scored enough imo.
And I agree with comments below about Whelan and Adam Pope. I generally enjoy listening to them, but they have always been very anti Bellusci. I don't agree with dropping a player for a mistake (or two) , especially when there is not an obvious better replacement. I think if Bellusci is dropped for Saturday he will never be able to be picked again (which will make some people happy I know) .
Finally (only on this matter) , I fully support SE for refusing to be goaded into criticising Bellusci in his interview, and refusing to say he will drop him.
We complain that MC might be interfering with team selection, surely we don't want the press picking the team.

06 Apr 2016 11:42:34
How can you say in all honesty Wooton is part of the problems we have at centre half when he has played for us in that position for sometime. I agree with BW we have nothing to lose by giving Wooton a chance to show what he can di in his preferred position. MOT.

06 Apr 2016 13:16:23
Just looking at Wooton's general play, ability in the air and distribution makes the likelihood of him being a reasonable central defender very unlikely. However, to put the matter to bed, once we are mathematically safe, why not give him a go? He might surprise us all. Would SE try that? MC might take exception if it goes wrong.

06 Apr 2016 13:51:48
My thinking is what's the harm in trying out a few different combinations in the coming games. I think we are fairly safe from relegation so it's not like there is much to lose apart from a few places in the league and maybe a bit of prize money associated with that. Although having said that I don't know the difference in how much money you get for finishing 15th as apposed to 19th. Why not try the different players and if they're no good we know to ditch them in the summer.

06 Apr 2016 14:30:26
These set of posts highlight our problem. Central defensively we must select the best of a bad bunch even then it's a struggle to work out who that might be. It reminds me of the time we had to keep on playing Jack Ashurst even though he would persistently get skinned for pace.

Cellino, please buy 3 quality central defenders in the summer otherwise we are relegation certs. Some on here romance about how good it was in League One. I don't particularly want to return there.

06 Apr 2016 00:41:17
unfortunately BELUSCI was one of the best players on the pitch tonight. By my guess he made three mistakes if you include a harsh penalty decision. Ashamed of the fans who booed him after the penalty decision. Noel Whelon and Adam Pope are obsessed with his shortcomings and they are a disgrace, Pushing the coach to drop Belusci was out of order after the game and Pope should be reprimanded at least. For better or worse Cooper and Belusci are our best pairing and by their (Whelan and Pope) own admission QPR did not have a meaningful shot in open play. No mention was made of a poor performance by an anonymous Cook. No mention of Wood being ineffective and absolutely useless in the air. No mention of the many mistakes by Bridcutt. No mention of the woeful performance of Carylol. Dropping Belusci will bring Bamba back alongside Cooper. Those two playing against Burnley will be disastrous. Moving on. No mention of the football genius of Steve Evans. Murphy and Dallas having their best games for a while and are bossing it. What should you do? Take them off of course and bring in Dave for Murphy and play Coyle out of position. Then finally you bring off Carylol and what should you do? Bring on Mowatt and play him out of position as well. Evans was the real villain of the piece. If I didn't know better I would think he doesn't want us to win. Final thought. We rarely concede more than two - usually less when Cooper and Belusci play. We usually don't concede less than 3 when Bamba and Cooper play. Interesting to see the back four on Saturday and the resulting score. IF Bamba plays it will probably be four against. Let's see what the genius decides to do.

06 Apr 2016 02:54:36
I've been saying Sabotage Steve for a little while now. Evans is very strange.

06 Apr 2016 05:44:32
Begs the question!
How many mistakes are defenders allowed to make before being dropped. I'd say 1 every 4 games. A mistake that may or may not result in a goal! However you can only replace a defender if you have one to come on. I'd say apart from beradi and cooper. We are lacking!
I'm still under the impression fat controller should go now. Realistically he knows he is going at end of season so is he really trying?
Sabotage maybe not but def a liability. Just like most of squad.

06 Apr 2016 08:42:38
If the 'one in four' was applied across the board we would have run out of players months ago!

06 Apr 2016 10:13:58
think Hess has the same blind spot for Bell that I have for MC.

06 Apr 2016 14:16:07
Not a blind spot just the fact we have nobody better. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be trying to bring in better. Just don't know who want to would want to risk Leeds at the moment. We just have to play the best we have. As an aside I have to watch the mistakes week in week out. I would love better!