Leeds Banter Archive June 04 2014

04 Jun 2014 20:37:18
GFH need to be brought to task as well as Haigh. They stated categorically haigh's arrest had nothing to do with Leeds United yet an article has come out today stating Haigh is being questioned over alleged fake invoices totaling 3 million quid (would explain our huge monthly losses) and these were paid to third parties of the companies performing the actual services (slightly dodgy) but here's where GFH can be criticized those involved concern projects which Haigh named Athena, Bremner and Offside and are ALL to do with football and ALL to do with Leeds United. Which means Bates lied as well - selling only to people who had our best interests at heart. All want locking up. Haigh already is of course (18 days and counting) but my opinion is he's just a fall guy for a bank who double crossed him once he double crossed them. GFH have some xplaining.

I think you will find they actually said it had nothing to do with Celino's purchase of Leeds United, rather than nothing to do with Leeds United itself?

I agree GFH need looking at though, they don't seem to be contributing anything to the debts that Massimo is paying off despite being co-shareholders?

Even if they only hold 10% (for instance) of the shares then they should be paying off 10% of the debts? And where are the other share holders?

I am sure they'll all be looking for their dividends once we reach the promised land?

05 Jun 2014 13:55:44
GFH comments at best disingenuous, worst fraudulent and could affect their Bahraini parent. One of the invoices was for a project examining Cellino credentials so there's the purchase of Leeds United. Second if these invoices are dodgy that will affect Cellino contract to purchase Leeds United! One of thinks of price and fraud tends to affect everything! GFH are liars.

04 Jun 2014 19:55:21
I have previously given my views on the potential transfer activity for us in my last couple of posts.Today I got to wondering about potential flies in the ointment.This was largely in light of the david haigh debacle.Firstly let me say he is innocent until proven guilty, and I will be interested to hear his version of events.While he may indeed have acted wrongly and I use this term advisedly, I do not believe the bank are whiter than white, the certainly shafted us in chasing short term profit.I would not be at all surprised to discover david haigh has been set up and used as a scape goat.Massimo Cellino has already said the books at Leeds are full of irregularities, so one thing is for certain we have been victims of creative accounting.My concern here is to do with our frozen account, if mc'sdefence is accepted that the money has come from illegal activity, and given fact daid haighs assets have been frozen, will that mean we still can't access money from club account, which impacts upon wages and transfers.That would mean either having to repay that money, but to whom, or we could be in somewhat of a bind.Iam sure ther are some legal eagles on here amongst us leeds fans who could possibly shed some light on possible impliations. My other concern is how much impact can our minority shareholders have, and could any messing around on their part delay off field progress further than their mismanagement already has.I hope this fear is unfounded, but years of mismanagement greed and short termism has left us in this mess.At last we seem to have an owner who understands that while doing it properly you need to speculate to accumulate.In other words to access the riches of the premiership investment is needed on the playing side. Finally for this diatribe I see many people get flustered by survivor.To me, and I know I joked in my last post at his expense, he is as entitled to post what he likes as long as it is not offensive, which it does not seem to be.on the face of it a lot is made up and possibly his real friend is mystic meg hence being wrong so often.Seriously though a lot of people put on made up rumours be it wishful thinking or wanting to spark a debate.Take it for what it is harmess fun, it does not hurt any of us nor does the continual name dropping, I treat it as entertainment.I don't let it get to me, there is enough going on past and present at the club with all the mismanagement we have suffered recently and our diabolical results after Christmas.Iknow it won't happen but the players that let us down should have a whip round and pay for a full house to watch our first home game next season allocated on first come first served basis, and season ticket holders getting partial refund to allow for one game less charged for. Well its nice to dream.Ok lads and lasses rant over

04 Jun 2014 19:18:48
I would like to know if haigh is in the clink can the winding up case be held without him being present and if so how does this effect transfer dealings wages

In my view the winding up order will definitely be adjourned and with the Haigh investigation likely to take some considerable time it would not be reasonable for the clubs bank account to remain frozen

04 Jun 2014 14:56:05
Poleon hoping for goals? Hoping for appearances more like. If we lose Ross then we need a couple of class strikers to replace him. Need two 20 goal a season strikers and Smith isn't one

Thought Smith improved no end by the end of last season, with a decent team around him he could well get 20+ goals next season.

Think you need to give all the newer/younger Leeds players time to prove themselves?

Some of us have been around since the 60's and we know miracles don't happen overnight?

The likes of Hunt, Kebe, etc, should never have been bought to Leeds, but let's not knock the raw talent we produce along the lines of Lennon, Delph, Byram, Milner, and even finding people like Beckford, Bechio, etc?

Stop kicking and knocking, and look at what is happening?

The crap with Haig seems to indicate (allegedly) just how many people have got away with murder at Leeds, I just hope Celino will take his time, get it right and then reap the rewards or promotion (hopefully without the leeches of GFH onboard!)?

One, two, three years? I can wait, if I know it's putting my team back where it belongs, not just for a year or two, but for the rest of my lifetime, however short that may be.

Alongtime
Nicely put just wish we had the Delphs-Milners-Lennons etc in the youths.
As for GFH get them out now if we do get back into the premier league why should they reap the rewards after NEARLY letting us go under ;(

Smith won't get 10 next season, unless were the same side that can't strong more than three passes together. Hoping for a bit of class up top

04 Jun 2014 13:14:37
Hmmmmmmm.

On 13 April 2010, Cagliari surprisingly removed Massimiliano Allegri from his managerial duties despite a solid 12th place with 40 points, and youth coach Giorgio Melis - with Gianluca Festa as his assistant - was appointed at his replacement.

Massimiliano Allegri was released from his contract by Cagliari on 17 June 2010, under request of Serie A giants Milan, who were interested in appointing him as their new manager.
On 25 June, Allegri was officially appointed as the new manager of Milan.

.the links grow stronger my young padawan :-)

There s no d in the name so couldn t be him

04 Jun 2014 12:29:05
can anyone tell me when the new home kit will be released? has anyone even seen it yet?

shakers

04 Jun 2014 06:32:59
as I have said in my previous long ramblings, I do not know anyone in power, or in the know at eland road. I do not even know survivor, even if he claims to know me.{sorry mate just a joke to lighten mood on here}. anyway.my thoughts are deductions from observation. first the players so far released hardly played much this season, I know brown and pugh did their small bit in patches, but we have plenty remaining in the squad who can do same job. the squad was top heavy with average journeymen, and now is nearer size it should be.so for new players to come in some need to be sold to raise funds, and to release room on the wage bill. we have a lot of young lads ready to step up as byram and mowatt have the last couple of years, lads such as taylor cook and dawson. people say how can we replace ross, well when beckford went up stepped becchio, when he left up stepped ross.players already at the club.so could one of our existing lads repeat history, say smith.he had good first season, especially give number of minutes on pitch.personally I think we will get a couple of Italian 20 goal a season strikers for less than we would get for ross and less wages.the benefits are you have more room for loss of form and injury.also bear in mind good as ross may have been this season will he repeat it, we bought alebiet for free out of contract billy painter, a 29 goal striker we all know his scoring record since then.what happened to beckford and becchio neither have been as prolific as they were with us. no one is bigger than the team.while I would not actively look to sell ross, nor would I hang on to someone who wants to go.ido not know his mind I am not survivor[sorry again], nor am I the gutter press making up stories to sell papers and create unrest.anyway if we were to get reported 6m to 8m this would get several good players that would add far more to the team than we would loose.for now its all speculation, but it will be interesting time ahead once new coach in, and mc puts his plans into operation. sorry ed for such long recent posts, making up for weeks of inactivity.

Agree with all you said Jacy nobody bigger than the club.

Totally agree with u jacy as much as I don't want to loose ross, I don't think he will score as many goals next season and with 8-9 million that's 3 quality players at this leval

04 Jun 2014 00:20:24
Seen that tommy Rowe has joined wolves!

Which probably means we were never really inetrested and it was all paper talk.