Leeds Banter Archive January 04 2013

04 jan 2013 23:39:38
warnock out never liked the man and him signing luke varney, lee peltier and constantly playing brown also wanting blackstock has just made me hate him even more!

04 Jan 2013 22:51:50
I know it's only early In January and is plenty of time to be signing players be it loan or permanently but surely our main targets should be defenders considering how awful we are at the back.

We're the only team in the top half of the table who have a minus goal difference.

We've conceded the 6th most goals in all the league.

We've conceded the most goals at home for a team in top half of the table.

We've conceded the 2nd most goals away for a team in the top half of the table.

In fairness now I know stats can be proved to show all sorts of things but surely there's no way many people being honest can disagree at how desperate we are for a proper defence?

Imagine if we had a solid defence where we could potentially be in the league considering we're only 2 points of the play-offs as things stand.

Warnock forget about Blackstock and start concentrating on our defence.

J
B
M

2 point from playoff and all of u slaggin Warnock off fact there is no beauty game at ER as long NW manage

Reminds me of when Simon Grayson got sacked....

I totally agree op only thing i would say is cos the team we have simply cannot retain possesion constantly giving it away its inviting constant pressure on our defence we need players that can hold the ball in the middle of the park that is able to feed the strikers that are comfortable with possesion and play a pass on da ground for crying out load not this hoofing stuff were like a team from the conferance at times take diouf for instance perfect example great with holding the ball up need more players like that imo.
irish leeds fan!

04 Jan 2013 20:59:03
we need a quality midfielder a creative general, i don't see the need for blackstock, esp if money is tight, also we need a good lb if warnock not happy with what he has already

Well said mate your spot on. We dont need another st . We obviously need a good left back and 2 wingers with pace and we would tear it in bits .mot .

05 Jan 2013 11:23:30
i disagree we need a striker with a bit of pace who can run behind defence coz all out strikers are slow

04 Jan 2013 20:42:23
I hear all the bantar that everyone moaning about the player that leeds are after and other clubs getting like woods who went to leceister city. We can afford 30-40k a week wages not in this division not unless we want to be in the situation as we was in 10 yrs ago with 75mil in debt and nearly liquidated. Let all be realistic nw will get the right player at right price and right salary we still another 27 day to get player so stop worrying over nothing it will be Leicester that will come a cropper if they keep giving wages like they are doing no matter how much money they got

04 Jan 2013 20:34:54
£700k - £1m for Blackstock (if the rumours are true) seems a lot for a guy whose contract expires in 6 months? Just wondering what other people's thoughts were?

ADW

We got more for howson in January and his contract was up in summer plus he was injured. I think it's a fair valuation for dexter

Crmd

04 Jan 2013 19:27:58
Just seen John fitzz who as we all know is very reliable, we bumped into each other in Mexico he said he just over heard a local fajita maker say Hernandez is coming to leeds on loan with Man U paying 90% of his wages watch this space

Funny that cus we run in to each other in America when me and the mrs were shopping he said his mrs has her bikini line done at the same place a Victoria beckham and becks was on his way also posh said she was goin to invest in shares in united and become a board member with the little ones becomein Leeds mascots good old John fitz glad we have his connections ; )

04 Jan 2013 19:18:47
Click agree if the signing of blackstock is below your expectations, and disgree if would be satisfied with it.

Obviously this is all theoretical seeing we haven't signed him

04 Jan 2013 19:04:07
It says on the real Madrid rumour site that there going to sign to sign Sam byram for 7M. Don't know if it's true.what do you think? {Ed013's Note - I posted that last night as I sometimes edit their site, I dont believe it}

04 Jan 2013 18:49:42
Just looked up Blackstock's stats. Scores around 1 in 3-and that's the generous interpretation rounding up! Is he better than Becchio? No is he better than EHD? No is he better than McCormack? No. Probably not even better than Somma! Is he worth 800k??! NO. Does he ice the cake or improve our promotion chances? Not really, maybe adds a bit of depth. He is not a player to make the difference. So why we trying to sign him? Only NW knows.

I'm inclined to agree with you mate. Although you could interpret this positively, because if GFH are willing to spend 800K on a player to improve squad depth, surely that means they're willing to spend big on players that would add quality to our starting 11. Every cloud and all that.

The trouble with that is you don't want to be paying over the odds for average players only to lose money when you sell. Liverpool being the perfect example with downing, Carroll etc. I personally think that NW's judgement has become clouded and no longer has the ability to sign any decent players. He's signed more dud's than class players.

04 Jan 2013 18:27:18
Graham Dorrans told he can leave WBA, he says he wants a fresh challenge. Think the 25 year old would do a good job for us, he was instrumental for the baggies when they were in this division, worth a go surely.

I just hope that if we do sign Blackstock which is a comedown from the likes of woods, then they are willing to spend more money on someone like Dorrans to make up for this.

04 Jan 2013 16:57:54
I think we need to get at least one player, preferably a CB, who is at least 6ft 4. Obviously he has to be quality as well, not just height, but i feel that we're really lacking when there's a high ball. We miss out on most 50/50's which isnt good enough, and it sets the opponents up to create more chances. Pearce is the only one who is 6ft 2 above, and we need the height to intimidate! MOT

Leeds Demon

04 Jan 2013 16:21:09
SSN saying lewis dunk leaving brighton on the cheap. Was scouted by prem clubs last season so obviously got a bit of quality. Would be great signing if we are a little cash-strapped or even if we are not surely worth a go!

At the moment the only player we are seriously linked with is dexter blackstock, it's all over a website Etc all these other rumours are not really credible their just what people want dexter isn't really proven though 7 goals this season is quite mediocre really and he has nothing on becchio

Heard he's got a bad-boy rep. controversial but talented young centre back... where have we heard that before?

04 Jan 2013 16:00:44
why not try and get nigel haissellbank looking for a move to england and could probably get him because of his uncles connections with the club

Probably got an ego the size of his father too.

04 Jan 2013 17:55:03
Nigel Hasselbaink, Lewis Dunk and Johnny Russell all bags of potential, good ages and none would cost the earth!

04 Jan 2013 15:52:39
To everyone who doesnt want Becchio to go, if Forest come in with a £5M offer, would you not bite there hand off? Because I would!

Season ticket holder, not missed a match in years home, away, cup pre-season.

The last part doesnt mean youre always right, ive met season ticket holders that are absolutely clueless, its not a God-given right to know everything about Leeds United

I agree although I would be more reluctant to let him go to a championship club to come back to haunt us. Let him go to a prem club for 5mil no problem

We couldn't turn that money down for a striker of his age. I'm not a Becchio fan, as I feel is touch is like a Sunday Morning player and he has no speed. However, he knows where the back of the net is. I guess you could compare him to Lee Chapman. Rubbish footballer, but world class when it came to finding the back of the net. If we keep Becchio (Which I think we will), we need to create supply for him. Two wingers like we had when Snoddy and Max played. With decent wingers he will certainly score. I'd still take the money though

I'd go 5m plus black stock or 4m plus Mgugan and black stock.

Hmmm I'd be tempted for sure but he's scoring goals at the mo even if u use that money for a replacement it's still gonna be a gamble if they start scoring straight out the gate, and with our defence being a bit leaky I'm not sure I'd risk it till end of season

I can't for the life of my figure out why everyone slags Becchio off. His goal scoring records speaks for itself. If a slow Sunday morning player can consistently score at this level, I'd take that every day of the week. Name a striker with his kind of consistent goal scoring record we could buy to replace him for the same price??

Plus we'd probably spend that cash on half a dozen more 30+ players...

04 Jan 2013 18:04:43
That would be a fair offer but only if we managed to bring someone in first

04 Jan 2013 15:33:31
Just want to point out that player plus cash deals are very rarely done so why on earth does everyone on here think that 10 will be happening 2moro it ridiculous clubs want cash not our deadwood
Mot
Hughzylufc

04 Jan 2013 15:12:59
not a rumour just want your thoughts on James mcfadden. Nearing his short term contract at blunderland. Would be a good buy

04 Jan 2013 14:03:57
I see Ipswich have signed McGoldrick and Maclean today, two pacey strikers. I know they are no Shearer and Henry but at least they are showing some ambition to bring goals into there squads. If its true we were trying to sign Blackstock I have to say I'm a tad underwhelmed, he's a journeyman with limited ability, and we couldn't even sign him. I know it's early days, but we all remember how we watched the best players move on in the summer, how the transfer window dwindled down with again all the best options going, signing a few quality players will cost money. Here lies the truth behind GFH...demonstrate some ability.

Ridiculous post, we have Becchio, McCormack, Somma and Diouf, Blackstock would be a back up striker, and a good one, our priorities lye elsewhere

Tell me how is blackstock a journeyman then he's only 26 as for ipswich showing ambition by signing goal scorers neither mcclean or mcgoldrick have even scored goals in the championship some fans need to get a grip the window hasnt even been open long get of gfh back will you and give them a chance to get there feet under the table!

Dexter Anthony Titus Blackstock (born 20 May 1986) is a footballer who plays as a striker for Football League Championship club Nottingham Forest, having previously played for Oxford United, Southampton, Plymouth Argyle, Derby County and Queens Park Rangers.....bit of a journeyman

You probably want beckford back, hes played for what 5 clubs now? is he a journeyman aswell based on that?

I don't want Beckford back, the guys never proven he can score above League One level. And yeah, Leeds, Everton, Leicester, and Huddersfield in three seasons makes a journeyman...If you think Blackstock is the answer, I think you'd probably like Kandol and Showumni to return we can all make puerile comments. Simple fact is, we need quality players adding to an average workman like squad, that will cost money, and it's now incumbent on GFH to rise above the rhetoric and prove they can deliver what they have promised.

04 Jan 2013 13:54:58
I personally think if we win tomorrow it'll be one of the best wins of the season.

Yes it's the FA Cup against a poor Birmingham side, but with the news on the OS about the virus and all the illnesses to our players, we don't seem to have much left with the way they're talking.

Personally with the current situation, I think a win would give the whole camp a massive boost and bring them all together and boost the spirits in time for the game at Barnsley. It may even work in our favour, if our main assets are ill and can't play tomorrow I.e Becchio, Diouf, McCormack and Austin they'll be in a better state for next week.

Either way I think the lads who play tomorrow will give a good account of themselves!

I hope Warnock brings in some quality to bolster the squad, we can with a few signings push hard for promotion this season and with the passion shown by GFH in getting the club bought, I'm sure the promotion winnings will be injected into the transfer kitty for a real go at Premier League football!

Once a White, always a White!

We are Leeds.

PickersLUFC

04 Jan 2013 15:18:16
birmingham are digging into there youth team so anything but a win is poor for us

04 Jan 2013 13:38:31
I'm surprised, 4 days in now and no Alan Smith rumours yet!!

On a serious note, i've heard that two clubs have enquired about how much Leeds want for Becchio but GFH have told them that he is not for sale. Word from the Becchio side of things is that he is happy to stay and see what sort of investment GFH put into the club and as long as he remains one of the main strikers at the club, i.e. they don't sign a player who plays in a similar way to him, he is at Leeds for the forseable future. {Ed013's Note - Sshh}

Top sources are telling me Alan Smith will return in the Jan window!

04 Jan 2013 13:31:14
hi leeds fans..

Ithink we have to b reaistic with transfers in january

lets look at the following players:

mcgugan( pacey, creative, scores from free kicks n long shots)

boyd( Runs wings and full backs ragged, knows how to deliver the ball in box)

parr( left back or left midfield, pace and good in the challenge)

knight( cd.. wins headers and 50/50s, ball winner and experienced. also great leader at the backTeam for me!

kenny

byram tate knight Parr
austin
green mcgugan Boyd
Becchio Diouff

So the players ive named here how much do we think it would take for me: mcgugan 500k boyd 400k parr 1m Knight 800k. so with a kitty of 3 million for transfers I thin NW could easily produce a team capable of promotion, with just 4 more quality and experienced players in this squad we will be in premiership.

Shoot me down if u want other fans but i think this is a realistic team for the final push. That defence looks so much tighter IMO.

No pace at centre back. Lees instead of Tate. No pace on the wings, Boyd is slow. No pace at all throughout the entire team except Parr.

04 Jan 2013 12:43:53
I think that we will sign Mugugan, Tonge and Boyd. Blackstock wouldnt add anything to the team whatsoever! the only ST we should be looking at is CMS but I cant see brighton selling him as Poyet also looks for promotion so wont sell his best players. I hope to god we dont get ian harte, hes not 22 anymore! Its evident from day 1 that we needed a genuine ball playing midfield player and a winger, mugugan would be ideal as would boyd.

Whoever we sign, we need to get behind the team because averaging 20k a week is disgraceful for our "Big Club"

04 Jan 2013 12:00:11
Lets give warnock some time if hes after quality players where looking at end of month for a transfer as the other teams will want to hold onto them all the crap players get snapped up straight away. Finally dont compare GFH to bates they will bring leeds back to where they belong in the prem

UP THE LEEDS

RDY LEEDS 4EVA

He's going to be laid low for a few days with this virus by the sound of it so can't imagine any announcements in the next week

04 Jan 2013 11:51:44
Just want to say- I don't want Dexter Blackstock- he will not be that cheap, wages will be relatively high. On that basis why spend money on him if he is just cover? I wouldn't want him as a starter. He is ok but he doesn't 'ice the cake' and I think we were all hoping to aim a little higher than that post takeover. We have a big enough squad already with many dubious fringe players. We need 3 or 4 quality players to make the difference.

Agree if you want Dexter?

Disagree if you would rather look elsewhere?

04 Jan 2013 11:44:33
I think it's worth noting that Neil Warnock is sick with this bug that's going around. This might impede signing progression.

-DB

He has nowt to do with the signings, he just gives Harvey and co a list of targets and they do the rest.

Harvey must read backwards as surely Blackstock can't be 1st on Warnock's list. If we want someone inept for up front might aswell have kept Billy Barn Door

04 Jan 2013 10:48:42
Anyone on here think we will sign anyone before brum game? What you think ed's? {Ed013's Note - Tonge, today so Neil can have his Brown Tonge in midfield tomorrow}

04 Jan 2013 05:52:41
Has warnock actually named any targets? Ed?
Why doesn't he? I mean. We are still an Attractive club to play for, we have been taken over so are showing ambition. In reality the next few years could see the return of leeds, so players that we are interested in, should want to play for us and could have a great future. We know all too well. When a player makes it known he wants to move to another club. it normally happens. So why can't That work in our favour for once?
I mean we are playing crap football but we have a serious chance of prem football in the next couple if years.
So warnock, if you know who you want, name them and see what their response is, if they are keen, it will happen. Say something like. I've always admired the lad Boyd. See what happens. Won't make any diff in price, nay even get cheaper!
Or maybe you haven't a clue what we heed!?

{Ed037's Note - When you point out a target or say that you have a large investment to spend, it normally results in the club raising the player's price as they know you are desperate for him/have the resources... this is why the fact that GFHC are being so sly and quiet over their transfer budget could be a good thing, as they've actually given NW a unsubstantial budget but don't want everyone to know... i'm not at all sure if that answered your question mate, but that's my answer}

You've now just told everyone Ed that NW has a substantial budget.... shhh!
lol

04 Jan 2013 00:20:17
I don't want blackstock. If its true that Warnock would prefer blackstock to becchio then i say out with Warnock! We cant afford to lose our best players again!

fingers crossed these rumours are rubbish!

MOT

04 Jan 2013 07:11:48
blackstock is supposed to be a bit of cover for becchio but if becchio does get sold there will be another striker brought in to replace him .probably cms