Leeds Banter Archive February 04 2014

 

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04 Feb 2014 23:51:15
Not a rumour, so much. More an observation: aren't GFH Capital a right bunch of flappy-headed mincers!?

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{Ed013's Note - How about Clowns}

How about 'running scared'.

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04 Feb 2014 23:25:11
Money talks. end of.

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{Ed013's Note - I have just opened my wallet and asked my ten pound note how he it feeling, it ignored me the ignorant bugger}

Lack of money seems to talk even louder.

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04 Feb 2014 23:18:43
Consortium of potential owners:-

DH - As much use as t**s on a nun
AF - True Leeds Fan (merchant banker)
And then there is a Scouser and a former Manc Director

I say come on Cellinio and make it your priority to sack the F**king lot of them and take their meaningless sponsorship with them

But keep BMD and give him a chance because I think his heart in it unlike the aforementioned d**kheads

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Hear, hear MOT

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AF a true fan. Do me a favour. If he was a true fan he would not issue a winding up order on the club he allegedly supports

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{Ed013's Note - Put yourself in his position mate, promises broken, duff information etc. 6 million is a lot of money, even to someone like him}

"{Ed013's Note - Put yourself in his position mate, promises broken, duff information etc. 6 million is a lot of money, even to someone like him}"

Says it all, Flowers has invested his money and has every right to call the tune, exactly how much have you put up for investment, loan, wages or whatever?

how about put your own money up?

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"How about put your own money up"

Was it Flowers money or the comapny's that was invested? There are people posting on here who have invested thousands of pounds of THEIR OWN hard eraned aswell as years of their time into supporting this club. Surely they have the right to criticise or have their say!

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04 Feb 2014 22:57:52
*Plot twist*
Redbull will come in with a late bid and buy the club

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What planet are you on, was it the wings?

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05 Feb 2014 06:08:13
Red bull are just a figment of haighs imagination like many other things! Coffee with peter virdee?

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04 Feb 2014 22:56:02
you do realise if Leeds go up they instantly become a top 5 club McDermott does he also realises once Leeds go up they will be billionaires interested in Leeds he wouldn't leave that for a club like Swansea LOL regardless of been in the premiership

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"you do realise if Leeds go up they instantly become a top 5 club "

and just how do they become bigger than all the teams in the top half of the premiership then?

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With there history already bigger than half if teams in premiership

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"With there history already bigger than half if teams in premiership"

Not in the last ten years mate, most kids don't even know who Leeds are!

There are many teams below us in the league with bigger history than we have!

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04 Feb 2014 22:41:46
Ed- I reckon there must be an Udders fan posting nonsense. Last few posts re celling bid and swans after Bmc are absolute nonsense.
Just seeing on the news also that Enterprize ins are taking lufc to court. lol
Andy Flowers seems happy to perpetuate the turmoil at lufc to pursue his own needs, doesn't care about our future just is angry at the original deal between SF and GFH falling through. PAYBACK.

Bing on Cellinio
Keep BMc (with management over all footballing matters)

Keep the faith.

MOT

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{Ed013's Note - Nothing would surprise me anymore mate, well if I won the lottery that would}

You must be so naive if you think that Cellino would even talk to BMD let alone keep him on.

If (and hopefully it will never happen) Cellino buys Leeds, BMD will be the first out of the door, followed by any ethics morals or truth that have managed to outlast Bates.

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04 Feb 2014 22:35:07
Id like people to calm down a bit here about this winding up order its only dirty trick from mr "I love the club". you need to prove that they owe you money AND that they don't have funds available to pay it which is obviously not the case, a court would not opt to wind up a company worth considerably more in this situation

Furthermore the amount was 1.7mil @7% interest in 2012 -2015 so that's 47K a month (interest on top of that)
Don't be stupid saying were going into administration because of that, he's just throwing his toys out, hopefully cellino comes in gives him all his cash back and tells him and his cheap ass sponsor to get to.

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I think you have totally missed the point, Flowers knows that it won't wind the club up, BUT, it will halt the sale of Leeds if there is any doubt about Leeds ability to pay back it's loans based on it's assets, which is why he's gone for it.

Flowers has put his money in, what have you done (apart from write comments on here like the rest of us?) Nothing, I would suggest?

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I may not have shares in the club no, but my trips down from glasgow cost me plenty on part time wages while at uni thanks

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04 Feb 2014 22:23:40
{Ed013's Note - I am seeing very mixed opinions of who the fans would want to buy the club. Please visit the Blogs and Voting polls page and choose between Cellino and the Farnan consortium for who you would prefer to buy Leeds United. Thanks in advance, MOT}

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I wonder if Cellino has the remotest idea how popular he would be if he did this thing right? And how loathed he would be if he did it wrong.

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"I wonder if Cellino has the remotest idea how popular he would be if he did this thing right? And how loathed he would be if he did it wrong."

judging from the opinion of the supporters at his present club he wouldn't give a sh*t in fact he'd just ban anyone that didn't agree with him. He's obviously so rich he doesn't need us pathetic supporters money.

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He might not need the fans money but you can't buy support and our suporters are by far up in the top 10 ;)

Andy MOT

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04 Feb 2014 22:10:52
Why oh why does this keep happening to our club? Why can't we just get an owner that is not controversial or rubbish. I think Leeds must have been Vlad The Impaler in a previous life. I mean, I swear Flowers could start an argument in a telephone box. Haigh is about as much use as Baldrick in The Great British Bakeoff. GFH are a huge, professional (?) investment bank, blimey Northern Rock comes to mind. Who makes their decisions, Lord Meltchit! Its like the 7 dwarfs dancing around Snow White trying to decide which bit to eat first. Think I will become Bhuddhist, it about the only way I will get the patience to put up with this

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"I swear Flowers could start an argument in a telephone box."

So could anyone with the sense to lift up the phone and dial someone?

Exactly how much have you invested in Leeds then, bet it was nowhere near what Flowers has already put in?

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Well, seeing as I am just an ordinary supporter and not a millionaire who lives in Monaco, I would say you just won your bet. Congratulations, spend your winnings wisely

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04 Feb 2014 21:40:16
I'm not particularly for Cellino as I have to question his ultimate personal motivation to own LUFC, other than to try and make a pretty penny if he gets us back to the PL.

However, for all those who don't want him due to what he may or may not have done in the past, we have to question who out there is whiter than white and squeaky clean in most areas of business.

Where is the "fit and proper" test for all the dodgy MP's who have been running our country over the years? Where was the "fit and proper" test for all the celebs which "Operation Yew Tree" exposed? How can so many companies avoid paying Corporation Tax in the UK?

In summary, is Cellino any better or worse than most of the high profile individuals and companies we deal with on a day to day basis in our normal lives? How many of you out there complain as passionately about these people and companies as you are now campaigning against Cellino?

As I said at the beginning of my rant, I personally do not favour Cellino, but all I want is my beloved LUFC back in the Premier League and competing at the highest level.

MOT.

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"As I said at the beginning of my rant, I personally do not favour Cellino, but all I want is my beloved LUFC back in the Premier League and competing at the highest level."

CTLUFC - me as much as you but I don't want to go and watch a team that has nothing to do with the team and heritage I have supported over the last 45 years!

I live in Milton Keynes and refuse to watch the Dons because it isn't 'our' team and never will be.

Ask the AFC supporters - true faith!

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04 Feb 2014 21:20:40
Can't believe it but its got to be Cellinio for me. I know a lot off people want owners who love the club or affiliated with the club. But look at Hudders they have a owner who loves the club supports them. Has got funds and spends / Backs managers. Would next year be accepted as a good first half off season, If we were in there position ie lower than we are! But we had spent 2.5 million on Wells plus another 1 million on other players. I know there is a long way to go and they could finish above us but not on your nelly will they make play offs. Watt I'm getting at is to get out off this division you need to spend more than a million hear and there, or have 3 -4 top young players come though as Palace did Zaha and company. With the parachute payments made we need some one to buy the ground straight away/ in time for next year with the fair play rules we would have a chance off spending more than most other than prem teams coming down. To do this we need real cash not a 4 year plan to be promoted

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04 Feb 2014 21:12:49
After a weekend of some fans moaning about Cellino being immoral and backhanded in the way he dealt with things. Some of you were singing the praises of the Sports Capital Consortium
This is the same consortium lead by Andy Flowers the guy that has placed a winding up order on us! Oh he must love the club!
I hope Massimo gets the club gives Flowers his money and tell him to stick it!

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Cellino is our only hope now whether we like it or not. The other consortium's do not have enough money to keep this club afloat. The 15 million wage bill is crippling the club. We do not own Elland Road. So my message to Leeds fans reading this is take the plunge and bombard LUST, Radio Leeds and Adam Pope and Phil Hay. We need to move very quickly. If the Italian is willing to take on the club with all this debt we should grasp the opportunity with his warts and all.

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GFH have shown their true colours. They have increased this clubs problems. Flowers is willing to sell the club down the tube. It is obvious that Massimo should be given a chance. If not no money no club. Simple as that. This clubs future hinges on the response of the Leeds fans now. Act or it will be too late

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Winding up orders are common place in business. It would appear GFH owe Enterprise money and EI have issued a winding up order due to GFH's inability to pay it back. Winding up orders can be withdrawn at any time. As Look North said this is probably just bartering power for the consortium in negotiating a deal. JD

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04 Feb 2014 22:30:52
Massimo Cellino I say No NO NO - Flowers has no intention of winding up Leeds United, it's a stall tactic to stop sale to Cellino.
Flowers wouldn't harm the club, he is using a business tactic is all.

Cellino might bring money if he wins this takeover farce, but I don't trust or like how he behaves, I believe he will only bring more trouble for Leeds and that means more suffering for us the supporters.

McDermott has showed great passion, loyalty to our club and made it quite clear he returned because of us, the fans, as one of the reasons. He could have stuck two fingers up and who would blame him after the way he was treated very publicly, he could have started legal action against the club for how he was treated. But he's a better man than most and wants to put it behind and move forward.

From reading most posts ( if they're by real Leeds fans ) today there is little sign of faith and loyalty in return from fans posting. Loyalty is being extended to Cellino, a man with no integrity or loyalty who has caused a lot of s**t down on Leeds recently.

Pound sterling all day, no thanks to the Euro!

Together Leeds MOT

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"Massimo Cellino I say No NO NO"

Love it!

"Flowers has no intention of winding up Leeds United, it's a stall tactic to stop sale to Cellino. Flowers wouldn't harm the club, he is using a business tactic is all."

All is fair in love and war!

"Cellino might bring money if he wins this takeover farce, but I don't trust or like how he behaves, I believe he will only bring more trouble for Leeds and that means more suffering for us the supporters."

Seems like many of us are masochists.

"McDermott has showed great passion, loyalty to our club and made it quite clear he returned because of us, the fans, as one of the reasons. He could have stuck two fingers up and who would blame him after the way he was treated very publicly, he could have started legal action against the club for how he was treated. But he's a better man than most and wants to put it behind and move forward."

Just wish our supporters could realise this?

"From reading most posts ( if they're by real Leeds fans ) today there is little sign of faith and loyalty in return from fans posting. Loyalty is being extended to Cellino, a man with no integrity or loyalty who has caused a lot of s**t down on Leeds recently."

Obviously can't remember someone called Bates?

"Pound sterling all day, no thanks to the Euro!"

Mel Sterland all day . lol!

"Together Leeds MOT"

We are so proud - well at least some of us are, the rest should remember Ridsdale - "we lived the dream"

Yeah and now we have the nightmare.

Don't you people ever learn, nothing comes free, especially 'sugar daddies' like Cellino (and Bates)

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04 Feb 2014 20:58:50
What on earth is holding up the fA it is threatening Leeds survival. It is obvious that the only consortium with money to keep Leeds a float is The Italians. The sooner sanction is authorised the better. We should all email the Italian to say we want him in. The FA don't like Leeds but fan power could do the trick. Otherwise we can say good bye to our belove club. let's email phil hay and Adam pope too to put the pressure on the FA

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04 Feb 2014 21:34:44
I would tell all Leeds Fans now to petition the FA through Phil Hay or Adam Pope. We all know the Italian is not perfect. However do we want Leeds to survive. If now just sit back and do nothing. The rival bids have no cash to move this club forward. A lot of damage has been done. There is a 15 million pound wage bill. Time is slipping away. If we do nothing this famous club will be gone. If we go into administration there will be a points deduction and Div 1 is on the cards. With no money to keep the club float in the lower division we can say good by to our great club. Vote now and by the way contact LUST too. We have to move. The time is ticking.

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Looks like administration again.

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Yes send lots of tweets to phil hay in support of Cellino as the twitter blogs I have read seem to think Leeds fans don't want Cellino. On this site there seems to be far more supporters of a Cellino takeover than against. After what went on last weekend we need to let the Italian know we want him. Off to eat my pizza now! PA

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I think the media has a lot to anser for all the hatred toward cellino

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"I think the media has a lot to anser for all the hatred toward cellino"

Maybe you should ask the fans at his present club then. or is that all media driven over 20 odd years?

Maybe you don't realise how much the media hate Leeds too, though?

Do you really believe what you read in the media, or do you actually go looking for the facts yourself?

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04 Feb 2014 20:41:12
episode two of eastellanders: after discovering papa smurf was big macs long lost dad!and realising it had all been a bad dream that he had been sacked : scene brian driving to thorpe arch gets pulled over by cops "can I see your insurance papers sir?" brian gets them out copper sighs " sorry sir u will have to accompany us to the station! your NOT INSURED TO DRIVE THIS VECHILE MR FLOWERS HAS TERMINATED ALL ENTERPRISE INSURANCE! shock on brians face music starts dum dum dum dee dum tune in next week! lol mot nickybee ed this soap can go on and on and.

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04 Feb 2014 20:39:11
Have to say I am getting sick of this. Its becoming a dirty tricks campaign on both sides, this is doing our club, supporters, players and staff no good at all. Its carnage all around and Leeds are being pulled to pieces. Somebody, somewhere please please sort this out now

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GFH have got a lot to answer for! Legal battles could set us back yet more years! MOT :((

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04 Feb 2014 20:27:53
Does anyone seriously think that the owners of Chelsea, Man City, mchester, etc are lifelong fans from birth who were just waiting for the opportunity to make millions of pounds, dollars, rubles so they could live the dream? Haigh and Flowers supposedly want to give the club back to the fans by being actual supporters .Risdale, anyone? As us long time supporters know an affinity to Leeds United does not guarentee Jack Sh[t . Our playing heroes didn't excellent as managers and our Leeds born and bred Chairman Risdale totally screwed up . Let Cellino have a go!

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04 Feb 2014 20:21:41
Flowers trying through court to end a century of glorious Leeds united history. This the the man some of you want to own the club. He has shown his true colours now putting his own battered ego ahead of our club. Even if he takes over that's the extent of his finance with nothing left to strengthen the squad, buy back Er and Ta. Come on Don Celinio, send him the horses head. I for one will kiss the ring if it will revive the mighty whites.

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04 Feb 2014 20:00:43
I think that he has done this winding up order to increase the price for Cellino. That way he might pull out and leave the consortium. The thing is, based on the reaction of the fans on here he has made a bad move.
Hope this is not the case.

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04 Feb 2014 19:36:11
What an utter disgrace and personic this man Flowers is. And some of you are wanting this man to buy us when he has just issued a winding up order against us. Jog on Flowers you muppet. Come on Cellino and Football League, get this deal done. OH MASSIMO CELLINO!

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Fully agree. Are you really a supporter when you issue a winding up order to your own club. Maybe it's a ploy to get them to sell faster (to their consortium)

Massimo Cellino all the way for me!

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Hear, hear. A 'true' Leeds 'fan' who wants us to go into administration, and therefore battle against relegation, or even worse, out of business altogether. P*ss off you greedy liar.

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04 Feb 2014 19:26:24
Really hope Cellino gets the nod. can't believe Flowers has issued Leeds with a winding up order, what an absolute tw@t who doesn't care for our club or fans. Appreciate he is owed funds but to do this in the way that he has is a discrace. He had his chance and blew it because they couldn't get the funds together within two months. Cellino comes in and bang, deal completed within days.

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04 Feb 2014 19:16:45
some of our fans have got there head up there own arse .a few weeks ago you was crying out for bm to be fired wrong players in poor formations bad decisions. you all was crying and shouting at gfh for lack of investment . so mcdermott was sacked you all was crying and singing his name you have a chance for a big investor you are crying for him out with out giving the man a chance .and to make matters worse a so called leeds fan you want in charge issues our great club with a winding up order . and as for farnan pearson they are just tin pot investors we will be no better of with them than we was with bates or gfh get a grip and come back to reality and get behind massimo with is vast wealth .mot

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Totally agree Cellino or bust!!

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04 Feb 2014 19:10:51
Totally unfair to us Leeds fans, the last two years we have had our hopes built up just to be kicked in the teeth over and over again,
Really can't take anymore of this take over rubbish.
From what I'm reading we have a multi millionaire in cellino who loves the game, very passionate, ( have our prayers been answered )wanting to buy our great club, could it be true, could the happy days of the promised land be coming back. This is what we been crying out for,
Then
All of a sudden we get fans shouting and screaming " NO to Cellino" and that includes you "LUST"
Who are LUST, why on earth are they the voice of the "TRUE LEEDS FAN"
I say " lust shut the f up".
CELLINO FOR LEEDS, CELINO FOR LEEDS, CELLINO FOR LEEDS
dave 40+ years following the mighty whites(living in hope)

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Excellent post I totally agree!

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04 Feb 2014 18:50:51
Why are people going on about any other groups so as fa pass cellino he owns leeds it doesn't matter war gfh do now they have agreed and sent paper work to fa only way any other group will buy leeds if fa don't pass cellino so al u fools wanting another group to takeover dream on! Italia Italia ltalia!! The Italian revolution starts now

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Nothing is in writing between Cellino and GFH, it is a verbal agreement, they can talk to anyone they want

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Well for fl to start the process on fit and proper test there needs to be contract between gfh and cellino so yes there is paper work!

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There would have been more then a verbal agreement, you don't make deals like his on the shake o a hand, for cellino to go to the fa and start proceeding would cost him money he woud want some sort of agreement

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04 Feb 2014 18:12:32
Good article in the YEP, saying chances are he will pass the fit and proper test, his fraud convictions are classed as 'spent' and so shouldn't be an issue, plus in regards to the embezzlement case, innocent until proven guilty.

In which case he will be our new owner.

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04 Feb 2014 17:19:49
To all the fans moaning that if Cellini TO goes through we will get an influx of foreign players.
STOP. I wonder if man city fans have the same fears I bet they hate all there foreign players, aguero, toure, kompany, negredo all English I'm guessing.




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Ironically all of out best players have been foreign

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More like Watford than man city I think

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How many of the Revie team were foreign?

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I wonder if some fans realise the FL shut down the 'Watford loophole' on foreign loan signings, so we wouldn't have a team of loan Italian signings.

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You ask how many of Revies team were foreign? How many of ANY English clubs had foreign players in that era? It's 2014 mate not 1970 FFS, move on . I'm sure if The Don could have got a player of any nationality to make Leeds United a force in English football, he wouldn't have blinked twice about their nationality!

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Erm. Albert Johanneson - South African winger was in Revies team.

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Believe it or not the revie team wasn't our only one

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04 Feb 2014 17:08:47
I for one hope Cellino gets the club, I don't want another mickey mouse consortium putting their money together to just about break even. It's a no brainer for me. I like BM I really do but out of the 14 or 15 games I have watched this season we only looked good against a poor Birmingham team, I know this takeover has an affect on the players etc but it shouldn't be an issue. Our football has reverted back to hoof ball since November and even through our good run we didn't play too well. BM's hands have been tied but not as much as Grayson's. He is also apparently selling Cagliari to focus on one club which would be ideal. I suggest others get on board with this guy, he may be risky and lack patience but maybe it's what we need. F*ck all the 4 year plans and empty promises, MOT, Vinny.

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Nice one Vinny, totally agree, Cellino has the financial clout to get us where we want to be, the consortium will be struggling to fund major signings and just keep us ticking over, Cellino has been condemned on here without giving him a chance, having seen the fans response to Macs sacking, I feel he will give him a chance to prove himself before sacking him again, probably be for the end of this season though.

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Nice to see a sensible post
f###ed off hearing about skint consortiums
ive been through thick and very thin with the club over the last 45 years
lets give the new Don a go

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Cant understand some of our fans wanting the two consortiums buying the share off GFH by the sounds of it they don't have a pot to pi** in rather have Cellino in at least we would have some money to spend getting sick of fans going on about our club this and that get real the only way were getting out of this mess is with Cellino Haigh Flower what a joke.

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Yes we need an owner who is going to spend and bring in quality! MOT whoever the owner.

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Spot on gents, the last thing we need is owners trying to cobble enough money together, let take the money and allow this guy to build a premiership Team We deserve to have a owner with money.

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Yep exactly cellinio has got the money and flowers, david haigh etc etc are all just moaning because they know they cannot match him. He is serious and does not care what these people are doing. Flowers and haigh on the other hand are just trying discredit cellinio instead of making their cash do the talking. The cash from cellinio is flowing where as the cash is non existent with haigh and flowers

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Cellino's total next expenditure on players at Cagliari is MINUS £10m. What makes you think he's going to spend money on players when he's down exactly the opposite for 20 years at Cagliari?

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Yes, I agree. Cellino is our only hope. What does flowers think we are, stupid. He lends the club money with an agreement it will be paid back next year and through his own fault his and haigh's bid to buy the club collapses. He throws his rattle out of his pram, if I can't have it I want my ball back. Mr flowers you lent the money in good faith and you failed in your bid to buy the club. You need to do the right thing and stick to your agreement over the loan, so go away and you'll get your money when its due

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Minus 10m and from serie C to serie A, not bad. Plus Cagliari have such a small income i'm surprised its not minus 50m, Vinny.

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04 Feb 2014 17:01:09
All these MC fans seem to think that he'll come in wave his wallet and we'll be promoted. well what's to say he brings in ( after sackingBMcD) his experienced coach (not) Festa and we get relegated! No guarantees in life, could be years before we see premier.

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People keep talking about fasta, at no point did cellino say he wants him as manager, what he acrually said is that he's a good guy but he wasnt part of his initial plans for the club. I guess he just needes a footballing man to assess the squad, seems fair

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I want MC to come in and wave his wallet around and bring financial stability to our club and buy TA and ER, this will give us the ability to purchase the players we need/want, isn't this what we all want?

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Lol, he instructed Festa to take charge of the team on Friday night. Festa put out the team for saturday which was then changed back to Brians original format when Gibbs took the team. don't forget he also tried to get Festa in the dugout against Ipswich and then on Saturday announced Festa was merely an interpreter. Yeah right.

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He's never waves his wallet about at Cagliari though. They've developed a lot of players there and sold them on. I think people think that just because he has the money then he's going to spend it but there's no history to suggest that's what he'll do.

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Well we needed someone, dosent mean hell b here permanently

and before you say it yes thers obv gibbs but he's on the cutting board aswell (probablt would leave with mcd eniway)

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04 Feb 2014 16:21:35
Just a note on this Tabanelli chap. I understand that he is on loan at Cagliari, from Cesena. So how can he at the club.

Quoted from the recent article in Vital Leeds "The 23-year-old only signed for Cagliari earlier last week, arriving on loan from Serie B side Cesena with a view to a permanent deal in the summer"

But respect to BMD in saying he would give the chap every opportunity once his signing has been ratified.

DS

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04 Feb 2014 17:14:53
i thought it was otherway round

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Tabanelli impressed this season, and been Cesenas leading midtfielder and offensiv force! Cesena fans very sorry for loosing him! May turn out to be a scoop! Luckily Brian is Brian. He will not hold the way he arrived against him, Tabanelli will play him if he proves himself good enogh. Seen him in a couple of matches, remind me of Robert Koren (Hull), but with a bit more flare!

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Didnt make sense the way it was "reported" but still, my point was Brian really is a nice guy.

DS

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Cagliari signed him last week then immediately loaned him to leeds which as yet May or may not have cleared with football league. For this to clear we may need to wait till loan window opens. To be fair he looks a decent player from limited clips of him I've seen

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Sorry you are completely wrong.
Loan window only applies to players foreign or British who have already signed and on the books of a British club.
Anyway Tabanelli is already a Leeds player.

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SURVIVOR
Hes already a Leeds player?
You know more than BmD he said he's NOT sure if he is registered with Leeds or not ;)

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04 Feb 2014 15:51:32
It has to be Eddie Gray pure magician

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04 Feb 2014 15:47:31
OK - so here's a few thoughts on how the mad Italian might proceed if he takes over Leeds United. He will buy back Eland Rd and TA. He will sell off most of TA to real estate as he is only interested in the team - not the academy (this is fairly typical Italian - look to Watford - the staff at TA already believe that this will happen). Team spending will be restricted due to Financial fair play - QPR are currently in UEFA sights for disregarding this - Leeds would be similarly if the income / spending books were not balanced. Man City could not happen again. Leeds United would be littered with Italian youth and journeymen

So there you go - financial spending restricted other that infrastructure and the ability to watch home grown talent gone forever. Be careful what you wish for.

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Agree. My fear as well. We have an amazing youth set up, its a sitting dodo if this takeover happens

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This is all speculation ofcourse

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04 Feb 2014 14:42:23
If sports capital take over they will be taking a 10 million loan out to finance the deal in the clubs name so leeds will be stuck in debt again but it doesn't matter because they have a 4 year plan! what a joke! Cellino Has all money about time the anti cellino fans actually had a think! Next 5 years finishing 10 th in championship for the club to end up in administration again or cellino takes over piles his money in and we will be in premiership in 2 years! Why are some leeds fans scared off success?

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Why aren't his current team one of the best in italy, he is surposed to be a fan so why hasn't he made them a force in italy, he's full of s**t that's why he's a egomaniac he's another bates, we as a fanbase are so desperate for the top flight that some are willing to put the future of the club at risk.no way should this guy take over he will destroy us in the long term

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He took over a 3rd division team in Italy and took them to the uefa cup semi final and established them as a solid Italian team. Cagilari itself has barely over 150000 people so if he was to spend the same amount of money of the two milan teams where there is almost 6 million people how could he possibly not bankrupt himself let alone make a living. He did back his team heavily and was known to buy players who would be seen as too big for that club. Same with mangers, he brought in Zola when he had offers from chelsea

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04 Feb 2014 16:38:53
Completely agree with 2nd post in reality we could do with the consortium and his money.

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What money? They have been involved in trying to takeover for months and they have been struggling to gather up the money to buy the club. Will that bring stability?
These people clearly have no money so how could they fund a promotion push.

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04 Feb 2014 19:16:49
Sorry, was ment to say consortium and MC money.

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04 Feb 2014 14:37:04
Well guys and girls, I think we have to assume Cellino will be our new owner, its seems despite having every opportunity and much posturing posing and rhetoric, the two consortiums together do not have the money the said they did independantly! What a waste of time. God help us all

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My guess is that the Italian Cellini wants a move to English football is due to the fact, what with Premiership money, sky etc. Is that the teams in the Prem can finance themselves very well.

Where as Cagilari, being such a small club can't hold it's own with the big boys in Italy.

My cut feeling is:= He's prepared to spend to get us up there, but doesn't want to be bankrolling the club season after season to keep us afloat and up there.

It's all about cash flow and running costs. He can afford to run a more level ship when Leeds finally make it up the league. Which is why Leeds, and English football in general is such a draw for him.

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04 Feb 2014 14:31:27
people moaning about the fact the italians has sacked so many managers etc and all this and that. but you all forget theses big money buyers can do what they want as they are putting so much money into the club. look at abramovich he sacked a manager after winning the champions league. Even though chelsea fans didn't agree with it they love him because without him they wouldn't be anywhere near where they are now.
Face the facts that he will sack managers but if he is putting good money into the squad and getting us places I don't care.
Football is now unfortunately all about money and just like players, if managers don't perform they go.
I think Mcdermott is a lovely guy but let's be honest we hadnt won a game in 8, that isn't good enough simple as that. doesn't matter how lovely you are, you have to be ruthless in the game theses days!

Bring in The italians and let's get back and compete with the best!
MOT!

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04 Feb 2014 14:45:36
never had the right players . don't think anyone would do any better

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04 Feb 2014 13:52:18
Let's assume Cellino is successfull, and as expected BMD is sacked. It is imperative that he appoints a top manager / coach. If he wants italian, then for me it has to be Di Matteo.

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You obviously didn't notice he want Festa in there

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04 Feb 2014 13:46:37
Just trying to get the supporters view on all of this.

If you want Cellino - Believable

If you don't want him - Unbelievable

thanks.

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04 Feb 2014 13:43:17
If Cellino takes over at Leeds we will become the nursery for the Cagliari team. We will be used to bring on youngsters and trial players before they move on to the real focus of his ambition. We will be just a reserve team for the Italian. At best we will become another Watford. Good enough for the Championship but that all. If we ever did make it to the premiership it would as lucky as winning the lottery two weeks in a row.

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What a load of rubbish, so he would spend all that money buying Leeds and Elland road back, investing substantially in new players to to be used as a feeder club, keep it real, he can see the huge potential of Leeds and once back in the premier league stands to make a mint, give the guy a chance, its nothing short of a witch hunt at the minute if he sacks Mac, brings a top manager in and grts us promoted all will be forgiven.

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I heard he would be willing to sell the italian team to make leeds a champions league team, as there a bigger bramd worldwide

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OP> One thing about being just a fan I can have an opinion, make a suggestion and see how justified I was without penaltiies. If the Cellino is what I think he is then God help us. But then again I could be wrong and everything will be fine. I have the luxury of waiting to see what happens - if that is, in fact, much of a luxury.

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More like other way round he obv wants that premier league $$$$$$$$$$

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04 Feb 2014 13:33:20
cellino invested 35m in his current club (which he supports) so he ain't going to invest in us

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04 Feb 2014 13:27:49
The thing is about this Italian he is the first person who has came in with the money it has taken less than a month no one has done that yet all the proposed investors have failed now the two main ones have decided to put together a bid but will they have any money left to invest probably not.
I think we should give him a chance hopefully BM will be ok and will have fianance to build a team in the summer, if he fails next season then there can be no excuses.

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04 Feb 2014 12:53:19
{Ed013's Note - Good afternoon Ladies and Gents, I thought whilst the speculation of the takeover circus is going on we could do some background activity with some Leeds United polls. My first one being who is the best player to have ever worn the white shirt? I will put all of the answers together and conduct a poll shortly. Thanks in advance, MOT}

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John charles

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04 Feb 2014 12:19:35
Have a look at Ben Jacobs twitter feed. His last post says that he has been told 'categorically' that Cellino is already in. Here comes the money but hopefully he will stay loyal to BMCD.

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Here comes the money, how o you know? Just because he is worth whatever, does not mean he is going to spend it! What we DO know is, he will lie and lie and lie and lie

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Just like gfh then?

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04 Feb 2014 12:17:34
You know a lot of Leeds fans are very fickle, we wanted rid of Bates it happens, we wanted rid of Grayson/Warnock
Now a lot of you want 2; yes 2 skint consortiums to be in control of out club

I for one as many, want the Italian to come in and let's do something this year, no bull like these new consortiums saying we have a 4 year plan, they say that because they have no money

Get the Italian in let's buy Elland Road back and be Great again!!

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I agree pal. Well put.

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If he was going to spend big money why aren't his current team one of the best in italy, anyone can promise stuff,

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Anyone can, your right. Just like the current lot do! If somebody got Rotherham into the ore and kept them there would it not be seen as a success? Wigan fans like whealan. they didn't win the league!

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04 Feb 2014 12:04:55
30 odd managers in 20 odd years and LEEDS fans still want the Italian! He might get us promoted quicker than other potential owners but long term he is NOT the answer. Think he will get the deal done though and become the new boss so just hope I am wrong and the man becomes a LEEDS legend.

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He has not sacked 36 managers in 20 years, the facts are distorted.
These figures include temp managers so not a true reading, How many managers and Temp ones have we had??
People should look at facts not part truths.
Get the Italian in right now!!

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The long term! We have been in the wilderness for 10 years. If this guy does fund us and we do make the Prem sooner rather than later, then say good job. Once we're in, then we can worry about long term.

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Once we are up then we can worry about it? What a naive statement! We could end up just another yoyo club like west ham, hull, sunderland and qpr. All clubs need stability and a long term plan just like Wilko had when he arrived. Unless he chucks millions and millions at Leeds, which I doubt, then we shold all dread his arrival. End of homegrown players. mercenaries and 2nd rate italians will be the way a la Watford.

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Thought Watford done better than us last yr. Prob do better this yr too.

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04 Feb 2014 11:07:28
Cellino for me as well. He will invest the kind of money we need and with that sort of investment if a manager can't take us up they should be sacked

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Be careful what you wish for, if this guy gets in we will be stuck with him for a very long time. He has shown so far he will say anything he wants and do anything he wants. Seriously this guy will drag us through the gutter and continually infuriate everyone associated with our club and in football

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" He will invest the kind of money we need"

Have you seen what his present club have achieved in the last 20 years with his 'investment' then?

NOTHING!

He just wants the return from getting us into the premiership (if he's lucky) and then we'll just come down so he can then take the parachute payments to.

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04 Feb 2014 12:51:51
if he gets rid of bmd we won't go up because cellino will pick the players that come to this club not the manager

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His taken his team in italy from serie c to a stable serie a side with only 5,000 fans in the ground. The convictions are because he's been trying to build a new ground and kept getting blocked by local govenment. And he's selling them for 90 million euros, that more then he paid for us. I said paid because he paid gfh on friday. His italian team is worth more then us because he's invested in better players

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Ill take going up and coming down again instead of this club dieing a slow death .

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04 Feb 2014 10:54:27
many people may not agree but surely the best approach would be for all the interested parties to form one consortium with equal shares and the well being of the club their main concern

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On the basis that 'a camel is a horse designed by a committee' no thanks.

TBH I think your thinking is naive. As someone who now runs a successful business by myself and has in the past has been in a partnership which went disastrously wrong I'd suggest that any organisation needs someone who has the final say. Shared control often leads to indecision and indecision leads to inertia.

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04 Feb 2014 10:46:07
cellino deal off as the Italian has left the club check the club squad on os good riddins to bad rubbish 1 goal in 95 games baring in mind his 6ft 4 and will go into the box thank goodness that person cellino has gone he would of ruined us good and proper he lied constantly about gfh wanting to sack mcd about him been unaware of mcd been sacked about him been involved with the takeover and festa not been the next assistant manager why else is he at leeds when his got a club of his own to manage if he wanted reports on the Italian he would just ask the club to send reports his lied constantly before his even got though the door but that's what fraudsters do he would ruin us worse than rigsdale

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Does not necessarily mean the deal is off, just that the signing was not ratified, not made by the owners at the time of the transfer wndow

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Looks like been owned by the penniless pearson and co then with there 60 year plan while they take the sofa appart to find a few quid .why oh why.

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04 Feb 2014 09:03:58
What's better for the club:

1 individual with bags of cash who will have a vested interest in the success of the club (both financially and on a personal level) OR lots of individuals (consortium) with limited funds? As much as I hate to say it then I think that the latter leave too many 'what it's' too much room for in house squabbling, individuals pulling out - false promises etc.
I know bates was one man and he shafted us! I am very worried and want the best for the club. What's the general consensus?

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Cellino for me! PA

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Very good question, and to be honest I am not sure. but the rich italian promises to be exciting times, which may end up in tears, but could also be an incredible journey.
With the consortium, I think we know what we are going to get, much more stable but not a great deal of cash to splash.

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I'm leaning towards Cellino pal. Within one week he had put up the funds where Sports Capitol had been scratching around for ages. What happens if the new consortium decide they don't get on particularly well?

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Cellino for me.
CH

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Cellino without a doubt, if these consortiums have had to get together to compete, then they have no money to invest, I don't want them and I don't want Haigh. if we don't get cellino then i'm afraid its more of the same Cr*p-lets move forward.

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04 Feb 2014 11:05:34
Cellinio oh oh :-)

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With Celino it'll probably be either league 1 or back where we belong.
The Consortium would make us a steady mid-table championship side who flirts with the play-offs.
Cellino, for me.

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Cellino for me. If these consortiums were serious about it they would've stumped up the cash by now but they haven't, whereas Cellino has made a deal with the club and has paid the cash, as well as wanting to sign 5 players on deadline day. I think we should give him a chance at least.

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04 Feb 2014 13:48:41
Cellini for me! Unless I get enough mates together and bid myself, the wife says I can have a couple of grand any one else in? It's all the rage! Just get together and chuck what you have in! Get to prem and then pull all your money out and leave the club in the rubbish! That's what worries me!

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04 Feb 2014 08:24:36
I think a few people on here are fogetting we already have a half decent team. Up until christmas we had got to fifth and starting to look consistent. Who knows the effect of all this on our players but it must have been a factor. We showed on saturday just how well we can play and a match fit Kebbe will be a useful addition. The foundations are there for a team we can be proud of and I for one believe that Brian knows exactly what he is doing, its not an overnight process, but he certainly has us going in the right direction

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I totally understand what you are saying and do agree to a certain extent, but the other side of the coin says. oher teams have sussed us out and know how to play against us, we did not have a plan B or a decent squad. BMD made a few mistakes with team selection at Rochdale (players were obviously knackered and low in confidence following xmas period and needed resting) and Seff Wed (played a strange new formation with 2 unfit wingers who had just signed the previous day). Also, let's be honest, we could easily have been 3 or 4 nil down before we equalised on Saturday and heads would have dropped and could have been another thrashing.
I like BMD, but a team like Leeds needs big investment in quality players to get promoted and compete in the PL.

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We had a purple patch when we switched to 3-5-2 after the Derby game, then all of a sudden that failed to work. We went on the worst run we have had in a long time until Saturday. 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 I don' think we have looked convincing. Let's be honest the past couple of season at some point we have been there or there abouts, even Warnock had us within the play off places at one point. Investment in decent players will get us there. I'm not calling for McD, but if we can get a decent pre-season and the right personnel, we could be there. Leicester have had backing and it looks like they will make it. QPR have cash anyway and Forest are making the right noises. As the old saying goes "You have to speculate to accumulate and if Cellino has the money he'll do for me.

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04 Feb 2014 00:54:51
cellino LIES about being involved with the take over LIES about gfh sacking McDermott LIES about GFH wanting to sack McDermott LIES about wanting festa been seen as mcdermotts replacement what else is he doing around elland road and Thorpe arch when his ment to be in Italy managing his own team why can't he send a scout or ask the club to send reports its because his cellino wants him there to put unease on the club and force McDermott out by constantly having his assistant manager around putting pressure on the fans the club the players the manager and the staff

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04 Feb 2014 00:15:00
I believe some fans should think about this cellino for a moment.
Yes he might have previous convictions and what not but he's got cash, and lots of it. I know we want the best for our beloved club but it's not stability, false promises and care that get you up the football league. It's money money MONEY. And from what I've seen these consortiums have nothing compared to the Italian. I can remember when we had bates everyone wanted a owner with deep pockets and a passion for football. Even though the recent actions of cellino make him look very bad, I have a feeling he's been stung on the hand and now realised not to mess with leeds and it's supporters. Sometimes you have to take a chance and to be honest I think I'll take the chance of having lots of money to battle out of this league than spend another 5 years with owners that have to scrape cash from under the sofa to fund a £750k signing!
I don't know what the rest of you think but I'm hoping now that this cellino deal gets completed as I'm tired of seeing our "Sleeping Giant" held back by some pesky businessmen that are good owners just because they care and want the best. It's an opportunity we should grab with both hands and not try to squander by prejudging.

I'm pretty sure it was cellino that stopped McCormack being sold. Just think about what that means before you dismiss him.

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"I'm pretty sure it was cellino that stopped McCormack being sold. Just think about what that means before you dismiss him."

Yep, no point selling the biggest asset until AFTER you ACTUALLY own the club, simples.

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"I believe some fans should think about this cellino for a moment.
Yes he might have previous convictions "

So you are happy to let our beloved club come under the control that has actually been convicted of fraud not once, but twice, and jailed for it - ie PROVEN and now accused of yet anther criminal offence?

At least Ridsdale wasn't a known criminal, and look what he did to the club - all legally and above board?

And you still want a known and proven criminal to own our club?

Would you be happy allowing a convicted thief to look after your bank account just because he's got a lot of money?

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Ross had no intention of leaving until Cellino sacked our Brian and it was only after that increased bids came in.

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"Even though the recent actions of cellino make him look very bad, I have a feeling he's been stung on the hand and now realised not to mess with leeds and it's supporters."

What? you mean like the lesson of being jailed TWICE for FRAUD and now under suspicion of embezzlement? He obviously didn't learn anything by a prision sentence?

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Completely agree with you here, the 2 consortiums which are now joining forces clearly have no money, give Cellino a go!

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Cellino has already paid GFH so unless FL intervene he will be the ownerHe draws comparison with a recent former ownerbut this one will pile loads of cash in to the clubnot out of it.He intends to buy back ER and will provide a team to get us back in PL. Sadly BmDD will be a casualty next summer at latest but although he seems a great man he isn't a great manager. Chelskis owner has little patience with managers and although Cellino doesn't have that much money I would happy ro be in their position

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Yep Cellino for me. it would be great to wake up to the news one day that we have signed somebody I have heard of! No chance of that with the committee/consortium with no cash.

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Cellino signing someone we've already heard of? You mean like tabanelli and avelar?

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