Leeds Banter Archive November 03 2011

 

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03 Nov 2011 23:29:46
any1 who would prefer Lee '' Clark to be our manager go support Town then thats all i have to say on that matter and you can support a league 1 club

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03 Nov 2011 23:23:15
I have always been someone who has left positive posts on this site urging supporters to support the team and Simon but the result last night has really shocked me! Even with the goalkeeper and the sending off it was still a terrible result and an important one if goal difference matters for, promotion, play offs or relegation!

I just cannot believe that the squad, the ten who played most of last night or the manager are as bad as that. Losing by 5 against arsenal is one thing but Blackpool!

I still do not think that we should rush into hasty decisions about the manager. Simon should be given the rest of the season to prove that he can turn it around and secure a play off place. If it is any worse than that we he should be prepared to go and we should recruit a new manager. Until then lets get behind the team and try and ensure that we help them play the very best football they can.

I also actually feel sorry for the GK, I am sure that he did not mean any of the mistakes and his confidence must be shot. He was bought because people thought he was good enough, so it is not all his fault and I think Simon did the right thing in taking him off. Remember we still conceded another 2 goals in the second half, not Cairns fault but we still conceded 2 more.

Next stop Leicester, the players need to show what they can do and restore some pride, another drubbing and I am not sure SG will be saved and who knows who we will get next. Good luck and lets get back to winning ways.

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I'm sure you write that in your best handwriting and everything but you appear to have forgotten which division blackpool were in last season. You also seem surprised that our ten men conceded two goals to their eleven on the second half. I suggest you go to the library and borrow one of the books they have about Association Football. It might prove to be a revelation to you.

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Apart from your poor attempts at sarcasm and insults, just what point are you making in your reply? Can teams not draw or win with 10 men, yes they can and do, are blackpool in the premiership now, no, How many of their premiership regulars played on weds? So do you think it was a good performance with 10 men?
It is only my opinion but I think that we could and should have done better than that in both halves. have to go now to get on my bike and go the library!

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I rember we drew at Chelsea with 9 men,but the players wanted to play for Leeds then!

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03 Nov 2011 22:31:07
One defeat and everyone wants Grayson sacked, Grayson had his targets during the summer and was unable to sign them due to wage restrictions. McCauley, Jones, Westwood, Clingan. All of these were targets, had we landed them we'd of been higher than we are, though 10th with our current crop of players isn't bad

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Your entitled to your opinion, but I think it's a bit naive to be honest. It's not just one game is it if you look at the bigger picture. It's the fact that as a team were no stronger, better or more intelligent in the way we play than we were 2 seasons ago. I think that lies solely with man management. Grayson is too much of a nice bloke, favours too many players and has made some very poor transfers......I aren't alone in this opinion either

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No you're not,but that doesn't make you right and able to make thinly veiled insults at people who believe Grayson is doing great job. No better than two years ago? We were in league one two year ago, now we're an established championship side, all done on a shoestring budget. Who would do a better job?and no fantasy managers like O'Neill or Curbishley please, if they didn't go to leicester they ain't coming to Leeds.be interesting to see who Leicester get because that's the sort of level we'd get,if not below..anyone for Roy keane? Be careful what you wish for! You're entitled to your opinion, but i think you're more than naive.

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He isn't doing a great job though is he? He is doing an average job with an average team when there are teams who are probably less affluent than us who are doing better and achieving more.

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03 Nov 2011 21:26:18
like it or not guys leeds dont want to go up grayson will not be sacked bates will not leave (or drop ticket prices) lets just all of us get used to it... roll on next season w@@k i know mot

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If grayson don't leave or we don't improve then we must start voting with our absence from games, this is embarrassing to watch, we are a joke for all to see HE MUST GO

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About time someone agreed with me.he shouldve been sacked ages ago

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Well said,

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The trouble is IF he goes who do we replace him with

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Grayson has won more than 50% of the games he's managed Leeds for. every season has been an improvement on the previous. Until he finishes in a lower position, or we go on a devastating losing streak, I dont think we should even be entertaining thoughts sacking Grayson. He does, and always has deserved his opportunity to show what he can do. We're futher on as a team than when he took over, and yes, he needs to sort out the defence, but until he actually starts taking the club in the wrogn direction, or is found not to be meeting the conditions of his contract, when why would he go anywhere?

Get behind the team, the manager, and the club, and lets have an end to this witch hunt!

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03 Nov 2011 20:03:49
Bates might sack Grayson for commercial reasons. Think how many players he's bought and ended up playing rarely or not at eg Bruce, Bromby, Argentine LB, Brown, Nunez. You could argue Somma, Grella, Paynter are similar. Must be costing a small fortune to pretend he might bring them into the side. I'd rather he made one good signing!

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Somma is injured. Gr8 leeds fan

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03 Nov 2011 19:48:14
Not sure if this is good or bad but there's a rumour going round that Leeds are looking at Heurelho Gomes from Spurs. He's apparently ready to walk away from Spurs and they want to showcase his abilities without any risk to themselves and will be willing to pay a large portion of his wage.
Both teams are keen and a deal could be on the cards up until January.
Me personally, I'd rather give Cairns a run out.

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03 Nov 2011 19:47:10
Just reading and reviewing all the comments on this site, I think 1 just 1 more bad result and the pressure from Leeds fans will be too much to bear for both Ken and Simon. Ken will do something. I think Simon is a goner.

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Grayson has only spent 200k last window,is this down to Bates only letting him get in loans or freebies,as he doesnt trust him to spend the cash,would not be surprised if a new manager is installed at the end of the year (only 7 weeks) and given cash to spend

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Hope so but we need a manager in place sooner then the end of the year, think grayson has shown for a while now that he's run out of idea's, lets be honest he never had many to begin with.never uses the squad, never been able to sort out the problem at the back that we have had since the end of the macca days,never sorted out central midfield,plays his favs reguardless of form, some shocking transfers,could go on but no point, we need a new manager sooner rather than later,let a new guy have time b4 jan to access the squad, cos we need to off load a few and with a cpl of half decent signings and better formation we would be ok,sorry grayson but you've had plenty of time {Ed003's Note - So after improving Leed's league position year on year and after only around a third of this seasons fixtures you want rid ? }

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Could not agree more!

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Ed.......it wasn't that hard to improve on what previously had been a dark period for Leeds. To be honest the team, plus the inconsistency of those around us enabled us to get promoted. One play off final against donny should have seen us up sooner than that.

Grayson has taken us as far as he can {Ed003's Note - Your club your opinion mate,just thought I would throw a reply in after reading all the discontent over the last 24 hrs }

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When Wise comes back you can all pat yourselves on the back.

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Wise lol no chance, but fed up with this inconsistency and down right embarrassing displays, it won't get any better under grayson, god help us after xmas if he stays,

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Yeah coz ken bates goes on this site all the time :S and you lot are all idiots to say the least!!! hes not going anywhere

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Why are we all idiots? cos we want better!, if you want the same old excuses and poor performances the you go right ahead and keep backing grayson,it won't get any better under him just more of the same but with more sub quality players taking up wages that the next guy will either have to off load or be forced to put up with,

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When he proves you lot wrong i cant wait for you to be all 'i love Grayson what a manager'

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03 Nov 2011 18:49:23
Just watched the highlights on look north. Rachubka was abysmal and it doesn't get any better, but how poor was the defending and midfield. Watching it from different angles highlighted how slow, lack lustre and static they really are. Blackpool tore us to bits without or without our s**te keeper

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I dont know if you agree or disagree but i think rachubka from man u to blackpool then leeds, i i think personally with them connections he threw the game or been tapped up {Ed025's Note - the conspiracy theories are on a different page..

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ED - I was interested when you said conspiracy theories are on a different page. Which page is that??!! {Ed001's Note - http://www.talkconspiracy.co.uk/ there!}

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03 Nov 2011 18:13:43
SG has been in touch with Walt Disney to borrow Mickey Mouse to fill the void left by Lonegran until December. There is a good chance however Mickey needs to return to Magic Kingdom before xmas to carry out his commitments! NR

MOT

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03 Nov 2011 18:06:32
just heard that after the poor performance ofpaul calamity rachuckba sg may be looking at fabianski from arsenal.

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03 Nov 2011 16:54:36
it never gets easy being a leeds fan!! we need a experianced goalkeeper and fast?? and like i posed b4,kisnoba is as bad as o'brein and bromby,so what we going to do on sunday if odea is still not fit? not sure about the grayson situation,do we stick with the YES man or do we go for a new guy,but who and why would anyone want to work alongside a chairman who really doesent care about the club and will give no financal backing what so ever!!! BAD TIMES

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What i would like to know is why when lees sent off did he not bring another defender on. got his tactics really wrong. something has to change. i thought brown and verynene were brought in to be defensive mids but neither used. both howson and clayton are attack minded mids and should not be played together. i don't think he should be sacked but his coaching staff should defo go as they are s**te. as well as his scouting staff, they are carp, they must be able to find a decent enough defensive mid out there abroad. see all these posts of us being linked with this that and the other, but nothing ever happens they must be blind or just not doing any scouting. i could do a must better job!!!!

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The buck must stop with the manager simple as that,

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Omg....some of you really need to sort your vocabulary, grammar and spelling! Lol

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03 Nov 2011 15:35:23
Time to sack Grayson?

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Yes,time for new blood,as new managers like to give those in the side a chance,after a couple of games Howson would be dopped,needs a commanding CH,influential and combative midielder,and a proper back up goalie,Leeds have lacked consistency for yonksand dont have the ability to grind out results when not playing well,we cant do that,time he dopped his favourites and utilised his squad more,if ha cant sort it get someone who can.

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I think Grayson deserves the end of the season, it's not his fault Lonergan is out, but we do need a decent reserve keeper, Rachubka has proved he isnt that person....

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I am on the fence with this one. He took over when we were faltering and did a job of steadying the ship. However the signings he has made since coming here I feel have be wholly inadequate and under par. We were promoted from league one, however as much as enjoyed the feeling it wasn't covered on joy, more despair, good luck and good fortune.

The honeymoon period is plain to see whenever a team gets promoted and we had ours last season, taking it by storm and finishing above expectation. One thing still ever present since Grayson took over has been the after Xmas hangover. Ever present in league one and ever present last season.

We don't play attractive football. It's mostly based along long ball, hoofing it up to the big man and hoping for the best. We never pass the ball and control a midfield . Howson is a quality player and sometimes you look at his passing and runs forwards and think class, however his inconsistency is remarkable as is the rest of the team. Why don't they start every game 110%? I just can't fathom it out. Grayson blames the players.......but what does he say to then in the changing room? Tactically I think Grayson is boring and very average. There is no flare, intelligence or imagination. It's either down the flanks or long ball. This must be what they practice on the training ground, because it's so evident on the pitch when Howson and clayton often do little.

Pre-season there was little or no movement and we can all see the sub standard element of graysons dip! Several years into graysons reign and we still have the same problems we had in league one. He hasn't built on anything for the future.

Playing devils advocate though, who else is there. Who would come and work under bates with his murky history. He lays the blame at graysons door, saying he has z budget and spends it how he likes. If that's the case then Grayson, scouts and back room staff are inadequate. I mean you look at some of the quality player on loan or bought for peanuts in the championship. Last nights hat trick hero for Blackpool one of them. Le fondre at reading, there are more......why haven't we considered or worked for any of these.

I love Leeds, always will, will continue to renew my season ticket and travel away. However my expectations have hit the floor. We're inconsistent, average and Roth an average manager. The most we can hope for is mid table. This is my opinion,, you might not agree.

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The whole thing is such a shame. We have good players. We also got a good goalkeeper but he won't be fit for another 3 weeks! Regarding Grayson, his biggest downfall is a failure to utilize the squad. I think the time has come to get a manager who does know how to use his squad. Grayson must go.

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Think is bates has a lack of ambition. Merely a business man treading water and topping up his pension. Can't see him sacking Grayson.

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Blackpool were a mid table, mediocre side treading water when Grayson was in charge, no money, but not causing any issues. He leaves and they sprint to the premier league, all be it getting relegated the following season.

We inherit Grayson and we become a mediocre side playing boring, unimaginituve football. The great name that is Leeds united suddenly looses its appeal and we fail to attract any players with style. Graysons signings are poor (gradel exception) a measure of the man being his former team turn is over 5-0.

So is Grayson the right man for our glorious Leeds?? I don't know.....

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Wilko was sacked when ManYoo and Cantona won at ER 4-0. Deja coming up? Stranger things...

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It's not a lack of ambition as such from Bates. It's a lack of money which creates a lack of ambition. He is trying to get us up on the cheap. What I worry for now is losing the heart of the team unless we bolster soon. We already lost Kasper (don't mind), Jermaine (don't mind), Kilkenny (don't mind), Bradley (do mind) due to lack of funds but if we don't step up our act soon we are going to lose a few more soon. Time to attract big investment Ken. Investors working with Ken...yep..that's gonna happen.

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We may just see George Graham back at ER again. Would be a very smart move in my opinion. Score against us now....

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03 Nov 2011 15:34:27
Told you guys Rabchoker was garbage and for some reason the disagrees were double the agrees. Bet it ain't like that now.

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I am big enough to apologise, this guy certainly isn't performing, I'd rather have Cairns in now....

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Apology accepted. We are all Leeds fans. We are the best fans in the world. We got more heart and soul than any other fan across the country maybe the world. I am biased but I don't care. About time Ken recognizes that the whole club is at a vital crossroads. We need to sort this out player by player, position by position. I do want to see a better goalkeeper on loan. Chance for someone else to impress. Rab C Nesgoal must never play for Leeds again. Actually, he shouldn't really play football again but that's of no concern so long as he never plays for us again. We also need another centre back to replace dead wood. We need someone with speed to compliment Lees' good aerial and positional ability. As for midfield, all it will take is rotating Howson so he can come back fresh. Same thing with Snodgrass. Fact is if you play so many games in a row over a short period you get tired and go off form. This is football 101. A relatively unused Lloyd Sam is way better than a Robert Snodgrass who has played 6 or 7 games in a row and appeared for Scotland as well for instance. I just don't think Grayson is up to the task of squad rotation which means in a way he doesn't understand the finer points of the game hence why we are in and out of the play-off positions. All makes sense. Thing is I don't know who we get in to replace him. Controversial but I might give John Sheridan a go.

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03 Nov 2011 15:08:18
we get the south stand now for every match next to away fans but for cardiff and blackpool atmosphere was crap few were tryng but it needs to be full against barnsley and millwall

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03 Nov 2011 15:07:25
I don't want to Panic anybody BUT Grayson states; He will CONSIDER getting a goalkeeper on loan; Never has he said he WILL
Whats the bet Grayson sits on his bum and does NOTHING Gj

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Depends how close Lonergan is to coming back, we need him, but it's apparent we don't need Rachubka....

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Now it states Loners won't be back till mid DECEMBER

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03 Nov 2011 14:34:11
I honestly think that every goal we have conceded since rachubka has been playing has been his fault and we would have kept clean sheets if andy was playing

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03 Nov 2011 12:37:51
Heard that Nigel Martyn has been offered 5 fruit scones with cornish cream and strawberry jam a week to return as emergency keeper. Think it's a good call, better than Rachubka, even if he has put a bit of weight on!! Used to love Nige!

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Every time I have watched Rachubaka, it was like watching Star Wars, maybe SG also loves star wars and Rachubaka is his favourite Character. But seriously,SG is to BLAME and no one else. Lets face it until LU gets a big investor, KB doesn't have the Money to take us to a higher level. That means we will stay in the Championsihp till this illusive doner comes along- quite fankly this is another 10 years.---sorry LU fans -face reality.

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Why would we want an elusive kebab?

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03 Nov 2011 11:47:18
Im glad simon is looking to loan a keeper in so we stop conceding so many. Perhaps rachubka would benefit from goin out on loan aswell to league 1 or something to regain his confidence and get him playing to a decent standard again.

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League 1 thats a bit out of his depth .

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Maybe a loan to the Duck & Drake for the big derby vs the Red Lion.

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South wales gwent league.

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03 Nov 2011 11:14:06
They were shocking last night but the fans who walked out weren't any better stand by the lads MOT!!!!!!!!!

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How much do you want me to take. I have stood by the lads for over 25 years Muppet!!!!!!!

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I have stood by Leeds for 24 years and would never ever dream of walking out of any match!! Shout it out loud...

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Feel free to give up at any point and watch Man City on the telly instead.

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I always stay to the end of games, but to be honest i walked last night when the 5th went in. it was painful enough to watch the game as it was and i saw no way back for us. i was selfish and didnt want to get myself upset by watching anymore...but i'll be back and so will leeds

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I left at the moment the fifth went in,cant say i'm proud of it,but i couldn't take the humiliation any more.

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Get use to it plenty of teams are gonna tank you cause ur carp

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I threatened to walk away after seeing Billy Paynter lent to Brighton, but in reality I will NEVER walk away. Despite the loss last night, I would have stayed on, had I been there, the team needs the belief, we all have the belief! Lets March On Together!!!!

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03 Nov 2011 11:13:23
A complete freshen up of the team is neede, Howsen looks tired, we have Lees and Odea out, Leceister will be a big test for Graysons management skills, O'Brien,Bromby have already shown there defending frailties this season,Vayrynen,Nunez and Sam hopefully will play some part in the game.

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Team for Sunday
NEW GK
Connolly
Paddy
NEW CB
White
Snoddy
Varynen
Clayton
Sam
Keogh
Ross Mac
Subs
Cairns,Bruce,Nunez,Becchio,Howson

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03 Nov 2011 11:12:46
Seen SG's response to last nights drubbing. He focused soley on the issue of goalkeeping. I know Rachubka was a massive, massive part of our collapse last night, but SG tried to make out that is all that is wrong. It isn't, it's not just the keeper. Continuing problems are-

1. Still awful in defence- no clean sheet since Doncaster now. AGAIN.
2. Continued lack of discipline, rashness. Yellows and reds- this time Lees sent off.
3. Really obvious tactics, no change accounting for tactics or personel we are facing.Also, failure to react to poor performances.
6. Failure to utilise squad & recognise the time to freshen the team up and offer others a chance. Why was the team EXACTY the same again last night other than Paddy in for O'Dea?
7. Lack of ability to grind out a result, be it draw or win. We are not hard nosed.
8. Lack of goals/ missing chances recently.
9. Lack of pace and trickery on the break, as well as width- the 'Gradel fator'.
10. Seemingly, no cash to fix this.

According to SG though all is rosy.....

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Agree,although Rachubka has shouldered the blame,our entire team,especially the defence are just as bad,they cut through us at will,Howson as usual was anonymous again but will still be in the side next time,2 years to sort the defence out and its still crap,squad is nowhere near strong enough,success is built on a sound defence and we aint had one in years,time for change while theres still time to salvage something from this season,thanks SG,but time to go.

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I was surprised that no changes were made when Lees was sent off. Suddenly we're down to 10 men, with no regular CB, and apart from Cairns coming on, all the subs were attacking ones! OB may not be the best, but he's a CB, in a situation where you're 2 nil down and a CB is off, surely bringing on a CB is pretty important.

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At 2-0 down you'd have shut up shop and held out for a defeat then?

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Point number 2 is nonsense. Lees's red card had absolutely nothing to do with indiscipline or rashness. The ball hit him, there was nothing he could do. It shouldn't have been a penalty and definitely wasn't a red card offence.

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What happened to point 4 and 5 then

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03 Nov 2011 10:56:22
after last night time for grayson to go as with nim we will never go up

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03 Nov 2011 10:33:23
What gk are actually out there and available for loan? we should try and get a cb this week too someone like killgalon.

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03 Nov 2011 10:25:34
Plz drop Howson , he does nothing ....
waste of space this season so far. or do we wait till hes as bad as clanger Rachubka.??

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03 Nov 2011 10:22:27
Fat Cat BATES to replace Grayson with Martin O'Neil.

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O'Neill wouldn't last a week with Bates.

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There is no point mentioning O'Niel all the time. Yes, he is a very good manager who we all respect, but you might as well say Mourinho, Guardiola etc. Martin O'Niel would not under any circumstances come to a Championship club with no cash, a mad-cap autocratic chairman ad massive expectations. I am sure he will get offered a better job with better pay than that!

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The best post on here for a long time well said .

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He has at lcfc loads of money

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03 Nov 2011 10:19:17
I would like to take this time to humiliate all u pro-rachubka fans, who were sticking up for the muppet after the woeful coventry episode. I told u so! It really shows how little u know in the world of football and on judging ability and potential…u lot are probably as competent as SG in this regards. I mean y on earth after PR cost us 2 points do u give him the benefit of the doubt for another 4 games and let him cost us a further 5 points before finally admiting that u need another keeper to cover for lonergan? SG that is seriously shocking and just shows how inexperienced a manager u actually are! The lonergan signing saved ur job SG along with the emergance of nunez lees and clayton, lonergan has been phenomenal for us this season and really helped oragnise that defence. Furthermore to the rachubka screw ups one of them cost us tom lees for next match…well done u doopey american spaz!! Now we have a crap defence again AND a crap keeper. I have gotta say that I thought cairns did well 2nd half, hes not good enough yet but hes only 17 and has shown good potential to be lonergans replacement in 4/5 years time. Should give cairns a shot at Leicester at least he will learn from any mistakes.

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Do you feel better now? Hurry up, I think In the Night Garden is starting. Poor excuse for a Leeds fan.

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Its called sticking behind the team and its players through thick and thin!!

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03 Nov 2011 09:34:39
Rachuka was dreadful last night but
unfortunately no one else was
the only player that did anything right last
night was Kisnorbo.
if we had no one in midfield it would have been better than Clayton and Howson they were awful McCormack didnt look like he wanted to be there nor did snodgrass, White,connolly, white,pugh.
None of them seemed to have any confidence in each other :( but im Leeds through and through and will stand by the lads through our ups and Downs MOT!!!!!!

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If all the fans can see it why not Grayson ?

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He couldnt see because he had his hands covering his eyes he couldn't watch that carp for 90 mins

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If you watched the game you would have seen that Snodgrass was running his b*lls off. He even went in to help the midfield. Sorry did I say midfield. It is a typing error.

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Kisnorbo was carp too - again. Not one player put in a performance last night

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03 Nov 2011 09:34:14
OK we lost and it was the keepers fault dont pick him again, we will still be there or there abouts at the end of the season. Stick behind the team, we are not doing that bad

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I agree that we should stick by the team and i am always one to do so...however, i can not accept rachubka staying at Leeds let alone staying in goal. if we cant get a loan gk in, put cairns in. i dont want to see that muppet playing for leeds ever again. he in my opinion has already cost us 5 points and nearly cost us the game at peterborough. its not good enough, not SG's fault but im sure now he will look elsewhere

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We need to send rachubka out on loan and get someone else in so he can possibly start playing better although im not sure he was ever that good.

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Is it SG fault or is it Bates fault, Did SG only bring Rachubka in because there was one else on a free? i think we need a new GK CB CM and S all beter than what we have then we may have a chance at puching up the table.

MOT

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03 Nov 2011 09:03:31
He sold Kasper because he said we needed better (something I didn't really disagree with) but look at what he bought, just absolute rubbish no one else wanted, I fear thats what our defence is made of mostly too, left overs at the tip, times up now Mr Grayson, give someone else a chance!

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Are you the same guy from SSN website? Kasper should have been sold without question...not a popular figure in leeds dressing room! as for rachubka, i think at the time the signing was ok, he had a good pre-season, BUT he is not good enough, he needs to be dropped and sold in Jan. When lonners is back who by the way is our 1st choice instead of Kasper(!) cairns should be on the bench.

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03 Nov 2011 08:58:58
Rachubka defo one of the worst keepers we have had at elland road in a long time!

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There was no-one worse. Worst goalkeeper to play for Leeds ever and you know what I think he'd be first to admit it.

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03 Nov 2011 08:29:14
To you grayson haters, he loses 1 game in about 10 and then all you muppets jump on his back, keepers fault end of. Grayson has done brill recently clearly your football knowledge is shocking otherwise you could actually see he's doing a good job, obv poor result last night but its not a 1 game season, stupid leeds fans prob 13 year old kids whos now getting bullied for losing to blackpool GET A LIFE! AND KNOWLEDGE!

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I`m a 45 yr old life long leeds fan with a vast football knowledge and your talking pants. Grayson is a nice guy and leeds through and through, but sadly not good enough

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"Keepers fault, end of" - who signed him?

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Rachubka had a solid pre-season and that is what he is capable of, and SG knows that. it is NOT SG's fault that in front of an ER crowd and in league games he messes up.

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How can Grayson keep playing a keeper who has cost so many points,any other club would be looking for a loan keeper now! but there again Bates would have to open his wallet!!!!!

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I'm nearly 62 and have played with a professional football league club. I'll tell you Grayson is tactically inept and his transfer dealings are abyssmal. What person would pick a centre half with concussion?

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03 Nov 2011 08:28:06
Leeds are missing two key players and they havent been replaced
Johnson for his strength in midfield and Gradel for his 20 a season goals
We only have one goal scorer at present Ross Mc !
I still think Grayson is the right manager,but we need new coaches,we are getting found out.
The only negative thing i can say about Grayson is he isnt very good in the transfer market
He choice of defenders hes brought in and reserve keeper has been dreadful

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Load of rubbish mate. Johnson no...clayton is better. as for Gradel, yeah he is a miss, but Pugh is better for when we need to defend. once lonners is back, the team will tick, confidance runs from the back, starting with the GK. if the GK is solid, defence are, midfield are, strikers are, this proven in our unbeaten run when lonners was in goal.

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Pugh is not better than Gradel! Personally I would rather see Sam in the team but in honesty I don't think either of them are the answer on the left of midfield.
Re. goal scorers, what about Becchio. I know Keogh is doing OK but Becchio is a Leeds player. I would always rather that than any loan signing. And I agree.... I didn't rate Johnson, the odd goal but not much else.

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I dont believe i said pugh was better than gradel....i said he was better at DEFENDING than gradel. MUPPET

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Even that's questionable. And that wasn't what you said .... read it, or get your carer to read it for you.

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Judging by your reply, to use your own term, I'm guessing you're one of the MUPPETS who only turn up for big games and then spend the whole match standing and shouting abuse at the opposing fans. Pughs playing in midfield, not defence, and even if he was better at defending, which I would question, I've not seen him contribute much in that department.

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03 Nov 2011 08:26:31
The keeper is one of the poorest I have seen in a Leeds shirt! Can't catch, deal with crosses, make saves or kick a ball and was at fault for pretty much all of the goals since he came in for lonners!!

However let's not let that detract from the fact that for the first ten minutes our midfield amd team allowed a side who had previously been beaten 4 times (4-1 by burnley), pass the ball like real Madrid. We never looked interested at all. Why do we proceed to give the away side the confidence to play like that??
Then in the second half, with teb men, 3-0 down, we play some of the best attacking football we have ever played! Howson played better as a right back than he does as a midfielder??? So we can do it, they obviously just choose not to.

Embarrassed after yesterday

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Rach should actually play in attack because he's very good at chesting the ball down perfect for an oncoming striker!

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03 Nov 2011 08:16:47
Rachubka can't take all the blame last night. He is poo, no two ways about it, but we played poor as a team. I'm struggling to pick a Leeds player who stood out. Grayson has a chance now to make changes. Maybe Becchio will get his chance, maybe Howson will have a spell on the bench to give him a kick up the arse. I'm not knocking Grayson and he now has a chance to show his managerial qualities. We've got some tough games coming up before we play Barnsley at home and we must get somthing out of them.

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100% agree, he does have to make some decisions now and he'll be judged by whether they are the right ones or not. .

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I've been pretty happy with Howson and Clayton all season but recently they have been non-existant, both last night and against Cardiff. It needs shaking up, if only to give them a kick up the arse, but who is there to replace them?

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Nobody mate, nobody. That's the bloody problem.

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03 Nov 2011 07:59:30
I supported Grayson fully but now I'm begining to lose patience . It isn't that we lost , it is how we lost . He said that the team would be changing to keep it fresh. Lies . Vayern should start over howson. And when I say we need to give players a chance such as nunez, Sam , vayern, forsell I don't mean give them one game end then if they make a mistake never play them again , we need fresh tactics ,

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Why with SG? is he Paul Rachubka?

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03 Nov 2011 07:44:12
I was at the match and was proud
to be a leeds fan as we sing to the
end
As for the SG he will get it right not
many would take there keeper of
that take balls
How many go to the game that say sack SG

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You keep on singing mate all the way back to league 1, thanks for the laughs

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03 Nov 2011 04:58:37
Pata cake, pat a cake keeper man,, catch a ball as fast as you can, drop it whoops, drop it whoops, I laff with glee,, at least you only had the blame for three. MOT

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He's on par with gary sprake then leeds giving us all a laugh

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03 Nov 2011 04:13:09
MY o My,,, having laffed all the way from man scvm land to Leicester I couldn't wait to read your feeble excuses. I filled numerous hankies with tears,, let me think when sg sold kasper how many of your managers said " good ridence he's shyte" now you've got a bigger and better calamity James,, even he must be laffing, at least I can catch a ball haha, anyway hope he really plays Sunday I could do with a glimpse of your so called better keeper than kasher.. GRAYSON IS A LEICESTER FAN!!

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lonners is our number 1 and IS better than Schmiechel

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If he is a Leicester fan, please take him.

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03 Nov 2011 00:03:34
knew it wouldnt be long until the Grayson haters would come out of their caves

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I was with you with my doubts but enough is enough - you can't pin all the blame on SG but whoever's fault it is we can't go on like this - I feel ashamed after walking out of Elland Road tonight!

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Billy Davies would be my choice!

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To be fair a year ago we conceded 6 at home to a side that got relegated, and nothing has really changed at the back. we have new personnel, but we still ship goals and will carry on doing so until change is made. I am loyal and love the Leeds, but we must be better another 12 months of this and we will be back in L1

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Grayson has to go - have you ever watched him stood on touchlines with his arms folded..? he's totally out of his depth..! won't be long before he starts eating chewing gum and copying AF.. he's so boring and predictable

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Billy davies would resign after a 10 minute meeting with bates did you not see that he hated no investment from Forest

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