Leeds Banter Archive January 03 2016

 

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03 Jan 2016 20:06:18
If MC had been watching yesterday he would have sacked the lot of them.
Now that's knee jerk Ed 001.

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03 Jan 2016 19:41:10
Rumours saying Lewis Cook going seem to be gaining some credibility. How would we all feel if Sam, Cook, and possibly Mowatt all went?
Would depend who came in I guess.

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03 Jan 2016 19:58:11
Standard procedure for press to stir up s**t about leeds players being fodder for prom clubs. We have a track record of producing talent and have been out of top flight for quite a while now. Added to that the reputation we gained under capt birds eye for selling players for peanuts has resulted in the press writing often quite lazy and un substantiated articles about players agreeing to go here there and everywhere as a nailed on cert.
In spite of what people think of cellino, he's no mug. Also he does want to get to the prem and knows we won't get there by selling our best players.
Now Sam is probably a lost cause now, but I do not see the pressure on us to be selling cook/ mowatt at this time. I also recall speculation in previous t'fer windows about youth players whilst cellino was in charge, and he was good to his word about players staying. I may be proved wrong but I do think he wants the pre as much as we do.

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03 Jan 2016 20:07:19
Sam and Cook will go IMO. If we get 16 Million total for both and keep Mowatt and Bridcutt it would be good business providing we use the funds wisely.

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03 Jan 2016 20:12:47
Also depends on the denaro received. I'm fine about selling all 3 so long as we pocket 40 million.

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{Ed025's Note - get in the real world george, it will be around half that mate..

03 Jan 2016 21:32:57
Not even half unfortunately.

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04 Jan 2016 08:03:27
would you really want cook to go that would be stupid.

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04 Jan 2016 11:08:06
Phil Hay said on Twitter we rejected Bournemouth's bid. I think he will stay stay till the summer, then go to a top 4 club. Though I think he'd be better off staying here and playing every week, rather than u21s look at Patrick Roberts for example, waste of talent.

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04 Jan 2016 12:50:14
I don't want any of them to go. I was only posing the question of what if they did. But I don't think MC 's greed will be the reason any of them leave. More connected to our promotion prospects.

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04 Jan 2016 17:32:40
If we end up selling all of them, it means we are becoming another Crewe. Producing talent for the sake of balancing the books and feeding premiership teams. That would be DEPRESSING to say the least. We have to keep Taylor as we don't have anyone else to play LB. Cook is still young and will improve. Until firm offers come in, everything else is just rumours and paper talk.

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04 Jan 2016 20:28:29
To be honest we all know that Sam is on his way. I would like to keep cook but wouldn't mind mowat going if we could get pitchers as a replacement.

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05 Jan 2016 01:58:25
Pritchard

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03 Jan 2016 19:20:25
This is my opinion only! But Erwin looks home sick didn't look like a player who wanted to take his chance in the side yesterday, Bamba not the player he was last season, and if rumours are true that lafferty is coming in then I'm very concerned although Steve Evans has done a great job in clawing points back and love his passion dnt think lafferty is the answer and a bit of a non fanfare job?

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03 Jan 2016 19:29:34
Agreed PW. His goalscoring record is terrible in England.

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03 Jan 2016 17:04:05
The performance yesterday was up there as one of our worst performances of the season. It is clear that although we have players who are full of endeavour there are not enough who have the mental toughness to compete week in week out. There were not many who could come out of yesterdays game with their head held high (perhaps Taylor, Bridcutt and Silvestre) . Not enough players were prepared to take responsibility to drive the team forward and create opportunities which led to us not showing for the ball and playing 15 yards too deep. Tone was set by the Captain and vice captain who were sloppy in possession and position. Byram came up against a robust defender in Lewington and did not fancy a battle. Dallas was running on empty (this was acceptable due to recent performances) . Cook is still not learning to lift his head in the final third. Murphy epitomises a player who shirks responsibility as he plays the easy pass (sideways or backwards) and naturally drifts to the defensive midfield role when we are attacking and ends up stood next to Bridcutt. Those who moan about Wood might understand how much he offers to Evans tactical formation as he is a target man and occupies the two centre backs. As proved yesterday we currently do not have a player who can play that role in his absence. The issue with Wood is his finishing which although has been inconsistent, reflects that he feeds on scraps and the midfield do not get forward enough to support or create an ambundance of chances. We made a poor side look half decent because of our metal fragitity.

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03 Jan 2016 17:55:48
Good account of proceedings Notts. The window should give everyone a lift. We can claw back 9 points.

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03 Jan 2016 19:25:17
Well said mate. Bang on. Hope George is right.

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03 Jan 2016 17:03:13
A poor performance because of tiredness we can accept, the top teams tend to get wins in these situations, this is the difference . MC should know now that we won't get out of this league on the cheap, you need depth to your squad and some real quality players that can change a game. Under SE we have made some real progress and just need to add some more bits to the jigsaw. 2 or 3 good acquisitions now and again in the summer will make us proper challengers . The next 12 months should really be massive in the fortunes of Leeds Utd.

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03 Jan 2016 17:20:25
Lafferty in Doukara out. I can see a few players who will be off as players come in. Bamba could certainly be replaced and Erwin, is he potential or should he be pressing for a place now? Sloth, never gets a look in?

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03 Jan 2016 16:58:55
I liked bamba when he first cam in but bellusci is better don't care if you Don't like him its a fact and if bamba didn't score at derby he would have been dropped we don't concede more than more 1 but don't score more than 1 (USUALLY) so bridcutt a striker were golden chriss wood will do better if laffaty comes in to push him he loves pressure i. e scoring here's to a good 2016 lufc4life.

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03 Jan 2016 16:55:26
Hey guys, Didn't see or listen to theMK dons game as was working, but sounds like I owe Hess an apology and ask for bellusci to come back in for Bamba he is not playing like he did Last season that's for sure! I definitely feel we need at least one (maybe 2) no nonsense defender with pace. I would like to see anti Lucy and erwin start for the Cup game next week! Bridcutt dallas adeyemi Byram as the 4 maybe rest Wootton and give coyle a start! Need a striker in the windows hope to make it up to ER on Saturday might have to paddle there people! 😂 😎.

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03 Jan 2016 14:51:04
First and foremost, club and Evans need to be looking at creative midfielders in the transfer window. Alex Pritchard, Alan Judge, Peter Whittingham, Craig Conway, Harry Bunn etc. for example. We won't score many with the midfield we currently have. I haven't heard any being linked which is worrying.

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03 Jan 2016 15:51:42
SG We won't win many games with our dreadful central defenders either. IMO we need to get two quality central (NO NONSENSE) defenders as well as a goalscorer. We also lack experience in the midfield. Most important is that any player playing for Leeds United must have passion for our Club. THAT MUST COME FIRST! MOT.

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03 Jan 2016 15:58:39
We should have signed Barton, but Judge would be my choice out of the list .
We need a c/ b with pace every team has worked us out and counter with a long ball when we attack .
Did not see the MK game but commenter was saying we did not have a shot on target all game, how?
Thought Evans was going to change squad for Forest and then Derby, but he didn't make that much change .
I know we have a smaller squad then some, but this in some part was down to M C believing or taking advice from the wrong people .
I think we need 4 players plus Brid , maybe a left winger on loan we ARE going to play.

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03 Jan 2016 16:26:53
we've got a cb with pace, bellusci. Not sure why he's not playing, somebody as good as him to partner him would be good. Coops and Bamba would be good back up's.

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03 Jan 2016 16:59:52
Romain sawyers wasall CAM.

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03 Jan 2016 14:33:22
Now I know a lot of you have mixed opinions on Evans and the recent Christmas form. Now I'm not saying the MK performance wasn't bad. But the recent performances have made me realise something.
Evans managed to keep a really poor Rotherham team up last year picking up points here and there. What I'm seeing is that now he has (for some arguably) a better team he might be the right person for us. I'm sure with a few EFFECTIVE arrivals this month and in the summer, next season we should be able to have a real go at a playoff place. The whole fact that Evans is good at picking up points when a team probably don't deserve them is what makes a team in this league a cut above the rest. Especially with the length of the season and the standard of even the "easiest" teams in the league. Maybe with a better team than he's managed previously he can really start to push us up this table. Even if it is just to the playoffs
That's what I see anywa.

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03 Jan 2016 15:03:27
Good post Northernlad. If you follow this site closely you'll see that after one bad performance everyone is doom and gloom but after one win, all of a sudden we are unbeatable. The fact is, we have a young team who will not play consistently well all season - this was pointed out at the start of the season and has proved to be the case. What Big Stevie E has brought is slightly less erratic results, a batter tactical knowledge and a better work rate. We've certainly faired better under his tenure and some will say that if we finish top ten we will have over-achieved and if we keep our current squad (with additions) will be very well placed for a genuine promotion push next season. I'd love us to be in the mix this season but think we'll be stronger and more likely to stay up next season. I don't know what everyone expects, but for me that would be progress.

MM.

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{Ed001's Note - it is not just this site MM, seems to be par for the course, so many people want to just give kneejerk reactions.}

03 Jan 2016 15:12:44
Fair doos Ed. I'm as hacked off as most after a bad performance and Mrs Mick usually gets the brunt of it, but can't believe how doom and gloom some people get after one effing bad performance - one we actually managed a draw. How p**sed off will MK Dons fans be? We are not world beaters and I think some people need to realise that but we are going in the right direction. 'Smile and wave boys' as Vid/ Aus/ George or one of those regular jokers says on here!

MM.

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{Ed001's Note - believe me I dread editing any site after a defeat, it is depressing.}

03 Jan 2016 15:19:59
I feel your pain bro!

MM.

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03 Jan 2016 15:29:09
Settle down MM we will be winning again soon. Promotion was a big ask for this season. Will be happy if we get more depth to the squad. We have a lot of talented young ones, some who have not featured yet, but we need to be able to rest them now and then or their form suffers and they go from hero to zero. You can see young Taylor struggles now and then.

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03 Jan 2016 15:59:26
BIGE you talk a lot of sense and probably see more games than most. I'm not worried about one bad performance. If you read my posts I am quite happy with where we are and know that we are not the finished article (far from it) . Just pointing out that we are work in progress and we should expect nothing less. Like I said in another post, I think we'd be better placed for promotion next season after strengthening (ala Leicester and maybe Boro/ Derby this year) .

MM.

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03 Jan 2016 14:24:06
If we have secured bridcutt till end of season those that prove allerdyce is full of that five letter word Evans was looking for yesterday.

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03 Jan 2016 13:07:13
Must say was disappointed with the festive results. Six points dropped imo. Need to sort defence, sloppy goals conceded cost us. Commanding CB needed. Midfield is baffling, all decent players but can't get forward. You can have any striker you like up front but if you don't have runners from midfield going to struggle for goals. Murphy not good enough, thought Mowatt would love that role but has not grasped it yet. Mistake to play Doukara on his own up front, plays better behind front man, Wood does a job but no good if support is not there and Ant is effective if two up front.
So we need striker who can hold the ball and put pressure on back four. We need a midfielder with ideas who is able to take the baall forward and get into attacking areas and a defender who can read play and give instructions. Would also like cover for Taylor who will be knackered soon.
As far as selling Byram goes all championship teams lose good players that's why its important to have a good academy. The only teams who could hang on to their players would be in the top four, and even Hull are expecting to lose two or three. If the player wants to go how do you stop it? Hopefully any money will be used wisely.
Plus point is we are on an unbeaten run, not as good as a winning streak, which we can build on with the right players in.

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03 Jan 2016 13:25:47
Agree with every word BIGE. You should be a sage.
If the rumours are true that Bridcutt is staying, that will be a very good start to the window.

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03 Jan 2016 15:12:48
Georgie my forefathers were warlocks from the nether regions and travelled far and wide before landing on these sacred shores. But enough, I can talk a lot of warlocks.

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03 Jan 2016 12:41:03
It seemed to sound like we have Bridcutt until the end of the season so; good business there. Now as we are still many points off the playoffs hopefully SE can beg for just enough money for maybe one player. Even if that is not new money but merely the Byram funds, even so With the amount of misses recorded so far (mainly by you know who) I would suggest the best investment (gamble) would be a Proven scorer. from whichever league, in whatever country, I do not care. So long as he has 2 good feet and a quick brain to whom scoring comes as a natural ability.
Admittedly a creative midfielder and a defensive colossus are also on the wish list but we have not fulfilled our part of the bargain to open the bank. Unless a miracle occurs in what's left of the season then consolidation is the name of the game with progress shown in blooding our youngsters.

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03 Jan 2016 12:30:01
Very poor yesterday. Back to our jittery worst at the back. It spread through the team. Bamba and Cooper are a nightmare together. Hope Evans can finally see it. Sorry for Doukara. Gets a start but in the wrong position. Antenucci on the bench? Didn't get that one. Playing catch up with substitutes is not good particularly when the problem is of your own making.

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03 Jan 2016 13:29:22
Was strange Hess, but I am not going to criticise the big man for now. He's built up far too much credit in my book for me to feel justified in disagreeing with him on anything yet.

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03 Jan 2016 11:52:04
I have read with interest the comments about us spending money in the transfer window and I for one we don't believe Cellino will put his had in his pockets as the only assetts we have are the players. I think he will sell Byram and pocket the fee. I fear we will be in the same position during the summer as I believe Teams in the premiership will be sniffing around Taylor, Mowatt and Cook. We does everyone else think?

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03 Jan 2016 13:33:49
Think he might spend something Shag, but agree that our only chance of hanging on to the talent is to be pushing for promotion . But, as many of us keep repeating, they would have been long gone already if uncle ken or GFH had still been in charge.

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03 Jan 2016 08:55:27
not a shock Norwich want sam so deal going on there . funny there had 4 of our players already.

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03 Jan 2016 07:18:08
It's January and the window is open BUT do after the performances of up one week and down the next inspire courage of a January spending spree?

I mean why not bank the Byram money, accept we aren't getting out of this division this season be it up or down and just look to securing the talent we have for next year and then revisit our options in the summer.

Maybe a loan here or there to cover injuries but I can't see us doing any business that'll transform us into play off contenders now. We needed to beat Forest, Derby and MK Dons to have a realistic chance of latching onto that last spot and it doesn't seem likely now after a sub standard performance against the latter.

This is just one man's opinion for what it's worth (nothing I hear you cry lol) .

Sell Byram, move on to progressing Lewie Cole and keep the conveyor belt of talent going. That academy is flourishing right now because there is a distinct chance that if they play well they may get a go in the 1st team. If there is more little gems in that youth squad, I'd prefer to unearth them before spending frantic January money on someone who was so desperate to leave their club.

Like I say, just an opinion, I'm sure you all have your own. :)

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03 Jan 2016 08:52:52
good idea bring on youth and sell sell sell. your having a laugh and mc got money so we don't need to sell but we bo need players . second string like doukara proving no good just the odd game . again two good games then rubbish the game we should win we struggle like hell . so back to square one.

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03 Jan 2016 09:50:02
It's hardly back to square one!
A few weeks ago we were almost in the relegation places but the team have had a good run, and I for one are pleased.
Alright, yesterday was a disaster, but we still scraped a point.
I agree that the academy is creating some great players and long may it continue, so if we keep some and sell some for a good profit, then it is doing its job. If Byram wants to leave then good luck to him, let's cash in and look at the options
Sounds like a good business model to me.

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03 Jan 2016 04:25:36
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Suarez Not Going Back To Barca In Jan, Leeds Need Signings And 8 More Stories

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02 Jan 2016 22:40:36
If we sell Byram, we still have 18-year old Ronaldo Vieira to work with, and we have both Beradi and Wooton to work with a RB, I say if the money offered if good enough then sell Byram.

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