Leeds Banter Archive April 03 2015

 

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03 Apr 2015 22:43:26
U know i'm nt sure cellino was involved in this at all he will be now! And if he's got any balls he will sort this mess out correctly for the sake of leeds utd

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03 Apr 2015 17:33:08
What a mess we get ourselves in, for once in a very long time things seem to be going well on and off the pitch there was real belief that we had a bright future, the team was playing well, we were gaining momentum off the pitch with the fans group, and their unique fundraising plan about to start, we have a bright group of youngsters who if they stay can help us retain premiership status and a manager and assistant who are producing the results.

We then have a situation where the sporting director whatever that role means, decides to suspend the assistant manager for poor performance, without it would appear telling the manager or the acting chairman, if you believe the reports coming out.

My question is what sort of business are we running, in any job especially football surely your line manager i.e Mr Redfearn is the person that can say whether he is under performing and if he is, he would address it first and then escalate it if it continues. How can poor performance be the reason, we have won a lot of games since he arrived so that does not make sense. I think this can disrupt players, just as we are asking our best young players to sign new contracts, why would you want to play for this regime.

We are becoming a laughing stock, the very least the fans deserve is an explanation, our management of issues within the club are laughable at times.

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04 Apr 2015 08:11:23
What do mean, becoming a laughing stock. We have been for the last 12 years.

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03 Apr 2015 17:19:16
Thanks ED. hope it stays working. people like you should be running Leeds Utd😀

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{Ed033's Note - ok thanks

03 Apr 2015 16:36:29
For someone who has NO connection with the club the hand of Massimo seems to be obvious in the recent happenings firstly a backroom boy leaves after a short tenure. Was he not good enough or did he not like the smell in the boardroom? Did he not say yes sir enough or was he just too blunt? Now the latest boy to get fired? Again Did he not say yes sir enough or was he just too blunt.
If the Thompson sacking did revolve around Ant then maybe the person who wrote 12 goals and not 18/20/25 into the contract should have his knuckles rapped. I believe that teams are paid more depending on their finishing position so if Ant bags a few more then does that not help pay for part of his contract extension plus if you then want to sell him in a window you have a 13-15 (or more) goal commodity for a nominal fee. Makes sense to me I cannot see the problem.

I cannot make my mind up about MC. One minute he is a saviour that has the club at heart and then when a problem arises his Latin short fuse seems to rear its head, with Salerno stoking the fire (or not having the balls to say whoa hang on a minute). If Thompson speaks his mind forthrightly then if Salerno has any man management skills in him he should harness that commitment and have the strength to admit when someone is maybe right and then privately have a quite (but strong) word with them how to say what he has to say. You employed him for his nous on the training pitch and not his ettiqutte.

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03 Apr 2015 16:17:18
Anyone else been lucky enough to read the lasest statement to come out of ER well from our chairman? What do you think? Do you like me think what was the point of it because it's basically same as yesterday's statement only with a lot more words to tell us naff all!

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03 Apr 2015 16:16:23
so how can you put in contract score 12 and get new contract if he had scored by November he would of got contract but then dropped came on as sub now sorry no contract on the bright side as morison got same contract no worry he ain't going to score 12 goals in 12 years .

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03 Apr 2015 14:01:12
Didn't change my password ED. didn't get an E mail either . don't know what happened.

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{Ed033's Note - username Chips has the same password as crag now

03 Apr 2015 11:21:58
Sorry Ed other name was Chips

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{Ed033's Note - On 2 April 2015 you appear to have used the forgot password page to generate a new password for username, Chips. This new password was sent by email to your email address. This password is case sensitive and works to log in username Chips. The password sent to you begins with capital R and ends with capital N.

03 Apr 2015 10:34:20
well just when it seams alright some micky mouse people start up again one sacked no one knows why and ant sorry you can't play any more so he's on a beach somewhere . that explains why donkey morison as been playing not because he's what we need but because ant can't he scoring to many goals what a joke .will someone at this GREAT CLUB do something right for a change

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03 Apr 2015 14:43:14
Poor Mori. He thought he was being picked for his effort! Big kick in the Bulls for you sir!
I love the strategy though
Pick a player that doesn't score cause we don't want to give our top scorer another 12 month contract???
What the?
Oh. And just to show how fing stupid we are. Let's sack the coach.
All this winning must be doing the owners head in. Def not what he signed up for. Perish the thought Leeds will ever be successful. Get rid of the cellinos etc. bloke is a liability.
If we beat Blackburn tomorrow which we would have done last week, it will be a miracle. Just don't understand any of this crap. And for the first time. Don't trust mcc or Salerno!
Worried!

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03 Apr 2015 18:17:11
You are right to not trust Cellino as he's not capable of keeping his word.
He bought the club and will run it his way and in time he will be very successful but the style of the man is dreadful .
I expect an announcement that ER is being purchased at the end of the season just to placate the fans.
Must say I for one don't believe Redfearn is that good just miles better than Hock and Milanic or whatever his name was.
Neil please go back to TA and develop many more wonderful kids.

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03 Apr 2015 19:54:49
How do you know he will be very successful? On what basis?
Oh and welcome back from your sabbatical. You were gone too long bruv.

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03 Apr 2015 10:30:18
Ed I was registered under another name but it keeps telling me that password is invalid . I re registered under this name . any ideas what went wrong I had so much to say yesterday but could not log in . 24 hours have calmed me a bit but still seething over Thompson sacking by that no body Salerno . GET OUT OF OUR CLUB.

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{Ed013's Note - What was the other name mate?}

03 Apr 2015 12:13:50
survivor!! Lol

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03 Apr 2015 09:51:22
For me, the decision to remove Thompson is because of one of two reasons. First, the club is clearing the decks for a takeover in the summer and the new owner(s) will want to bring their own people in which will eventually include Redfearn stepping down from his role as head coach. The second reason could be down to Cellino meddling again. Does Cellino see Thompson as the reason for our upturn in form and thus (in his eyes) weakening the believed effect that Redfearn was having on the team?. On this basis it would seem an odd move to remove Thompson but not if the result put's Redfearn under the spotlight for the rest of the season or makes his position untenable as he already has the next 'no mark' lined up to take the top job. I was never convinced that Cellino was keen on Thompson in the first place as it took him so long to agree to recruit him, I would also be interested to know Cellino's thoughts on the tactical change away from his coverted diamond formation and not using a significant number of players he brought to the club in the second half of the season i.e. Adryan. As the use of these players aligns with Cellino's past strategy of obtaining players cheaply and selling for millions. Yes, possibly crazy conspiracy theories but we are not owed by a man known for rational thinking. Benjamin Franklin quoted "In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes". I would also add "and Leeds United shooting itself in the foot"

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03 Apr 2015 11:38:58
I don't believe it is for any of the reasons NottsWhite. I got sources inside ER and the best they can glean is that Thommo has been suspended for "arrogance and rudeness". He has apparently been spouting the truth about the failed regime with silly formation, over investment in Italian imports, using unknown coaches etc. These comments were part of a discussion about transfer targets made worse of course by Cellino's own suspension. Thommo apparently told Salerno the hard truth and kept reminding him the club's upturn coincided with his appointment. He said this for good of club and to persuade Salerno concerning transfer targets. Salerno interpreted it as insubordination and undermining his authority. More than just a personality clash it is fundamental stuff and goes to the core of how the club is run which is badly. It's what I call "Caesarism". Not giving up some power when it is blatant you need to to make things work. No coincidence Salerno and Cellino are Italian. Redders is a more mild mannered guy so he is able to put up with their antics but he is most displeased about Thommo. I suggest the fans voice their displeasure to get Thommo back and to get the Italians to change their ways. So guys it is as petty as that. No giant scandal. However, it is also fundamental stuff. They don't forgive someone getting too big for boots, meanwhile they run the club the wrong way. It's Yorkshire not Sardinia.

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03 Apr 2015 13:08:03
Agree with you George. Pretty obvious who was calling the shots at the start of the season , picking teams ,formations.
Salerno has obviously had his nose put out by the Redders and Thommo and is not happy. How true is the tale about Ant,extending his contract if he scores 12 goals? ridiculous surely you want strikers who score and want to keep them. Nothing good is going to come out of this, we seem to be very good at one thing and that's shooting ourselves in the foot. For all the good that Cellino has done financially for the club,may be it is time for him to walk away and take his Mafia with him?

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03 Apr 2015 13:30:05
Very Interesting George. Thanks for the update

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03 Apr 2015 14:48:30
Spot on georgy boy
Italians. All suits and no brains!
Salerno has done what exactly for Leeds??

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03 Apr 2015 15:57:27
Thanks for the information George. The more I think about this fiasco, the more it seems clear that Salerno's ego is a big problem. He brought the foreign contingent of players to the club and obviously didn't take too kindly to ST telling him some home truths.
Most of those players haven't got what it takes to get promotion and our improvement in results has coincided with ST's arrival at the club. Salerno can't accept this even though it's patently obvious.
Redders has already commented that Cellino vastly under-estimated the quality of the Championship last summer, Cellino has accepted that fact Salerno hasn't.
It's rumoured that Salerno is leaving in the summer, let's hope that is true and that Cellino changes his ways too otherwise there will be constant turmoil at LUFC. MOT Speedo4Eva.

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03 Apr 2015 19:02:58
Usually agree with Notts,definatly agree with George & Tewey, don't usually agree with Ausman (but do this time). Have always believed in MC but now having grave doubts & could be time to say thanks for everything but now you're losing the fans & it's time to go. Just when the future starts to look good we implode & I fear for the future regarding Mowatt, Cook et al. Disappointed and worried from a guy whose glass is always half full.

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03 Apr 2015 00:44:08
Have a great stag do bw will have a drink for u tmrw night to toast your good health!

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03 Apr 2015 00:52:53
cheers after the weekend I may need it

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