Leeds Banter Archive October 31 2015

 

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31 Oct 2015 19:26:28
Have to raise the question if LFA think they can raise the money to buy 75% shares why did they not raise the money to buy GFH 23% Then we would have had a say in the boardroom and influenced what Cellino was doing.

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31 Oct 2015 19:37:55
Good point.
Then again probably because they haven't got a pot to piss in!

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31 Oct 2015 19:58:52
It's because they realise like 99% of all leeds fans we need rid of this clown first. how's the time to take our club back. as far as this pot to piss ins concerned . who knows yet . at least their doing something? because if this goes on much longer with the clown . our club will destroy itself. everyone needs to get behind LFU and take back what's ours.

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31 Oct 2015 21:32:15
Yes suppose GFH are fine.

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31 Oct 2015 23:51:14
Guys this just can't happen. Cellino paid £52 million to buy a 75% stake in Leeds, plus his personal stake, GFH own 20% with Patel owning 3%. Cellino has put a further £30 million of his cash in to sort out the car crash that was GFH. This offer of a buy out is him saying ok guys if you can do a better job here you go, oh by the way that's tens of millions please, knowing full well they don't have the money. that's just to buy the club, funds will be needed to run the club, we are looking at a figure closer to £100 million to make it work. A consortium, really, never works. Leeds fans have £500k, the idea was to buy a small stake, like Cellinos 2% to have a voice on the board. Its all pie in the sky and Cellino trying to curry favour and making a point. Like it or lump it we need his cash and business acumen.

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01 Nov 2015 00:40:50
Agree vid, that was my point if they had money they would have gone after GFH shares earlier. Thwaites their spokesman sounds like he is bactracking a bit or as he says evaluating the situation. Football is a funny business a lot of money is borrowed against assests, we don't have any so you need one very rich person as guarantor. Consortiums are a waste of time.

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01 Nov 2015 00:53:39
Absolutely spot on. They will need £60m to buy out Cellino and then £20m to buy the ground and the rest for ayers and working capital/ new players. Who will lend that? They will want security and we have no assets to offer. I would love them to be in a position to buy the club but it is just not feasible.

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01 nov 2015 07:24:49
so 100m to get things sorted don't think fan club have that but someone might.

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01 Nov 2015 08:21:14
Great post vid you've absolutely hit the nail on the head .

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01 Nov 2015 09:38:59
I think as time goes on Mr persons name will start to be seen.

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31 Oct 2015 19:18:25


I'm putting a bid together to buy us lads, so stick with me and I'll definitely bring the good times back to LS11.

Sorry, I came over all a bit Survivor there, please ignore me it's the Stella talking.

Seriously though, I hope Adam Pearson or someone of his experience is involved in any take over bid and it's someone who has Leeds in their heart rather than someone wanting to cash in or a fake Italian who talks the talk but doesn't pay the tax!

MM.

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31 Oct 2015 21:20:16
MM I will chip my friend I've got a few old euros in the draw aussy probably got a few dingo 's speedy well he got his moths and bw got his sister?!

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01 Nov 2015 00:12:42
How many shares does $20 get me. Me and my mates chipped in! We'd like about 51% if possible? Offer only valid to close of business today!

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01 Nov 2015 09:44:35
I've just found 20p down the side of my armchair. Can I join in the fun?

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01 Nov 2015 15:01:57
i won 11 quid in footie acc does that make me on the board of directors?

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{Ed001's Note - it is a £1 buy in, the other £10 will be needed in a brown envelope to avoid tax....}

31 Oct 2015 18:44:23
IF Cellino is serious and not just being Cellino then I for one will (partly) miss him. At a time when we were struggling financially he came in and steadied the ship. Often taking controversial decisions with a mindset of not wanting to buy promotion and saving every penny where possible. I even had visions of him following everyone around and switching lights off. taking the kit home for his wife to wash. Buying worldbeaters on minimum wage was a dream too far but my main area of concern was (and is), from early doors, his inate ability to open his mouth before putting his brain in gear. His Latin temperament seems to control every decision he makes with many decisions leaving "what the.! " as the only response. surely any fool could see that part of what was needed all around was stability from that, all other elements could be built. Unfortunately his ego, naivety and latin impatience set the path to turbulent times ahead virtually from day one. Like your loudmouthed mate, funny at first but after a while you just want to say "for Gods sake just shut up. "
I would only be happy for him to stay if he appoints and abides by a strong brakeman. Someone who can force him to "sleep on it" before any new utterance. Possibly a David Dein or a Mark Palios.
As always though my fervent wish is for a football mad, Leeds loving, Billionaire to step forward and throw money at Elland Road to solve all our problems present and future.

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31 Oct 2015 19:57:36
Bang on mate, If he does go and sell up I for one will not hate the man, he definitely is not another Bates but his decision making is dodgy in the extreme. Still not sure about the fan takeover though it will require some really clued up and wealthy people to be involved to work.

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31 Oct 2015 21:24:35
Top post leodis. I can see going from frying pan to fire though with this group. We know nothing about them. Who is their front man? Every group has a leader.

I smell the blood of a bearded octogenarian I'm afraid.

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31 Oct 2015 17:53:55
Hi guys and gals at least today's results didn't hurt us. Not much I know but looking for silver linings here.

Mot.

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31 Oct 2015 20:02:30
Thanks for the positivity. :-)

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31 Oct 2015 15:21:39
Where is Survivor and/or Untouchables? Thought he would be on here telling us (rightly) how prophetic he is.

What does our future hold o knowledgeable one?

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31 Oct 2015 19:20:28
Probably sailing away into the sunset on the good ship 'taxdodge' with his mate Cellino, smoking a big fat cigar and cursing the number 17. Dreamer!

MM.

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31 Oct 2015 20:03:03
Survivor and/or untouchables is georgy boy in disguise! Just sayin!

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31 Oct 2015 20:11:38
Survivor can't be George. George is right on occasions. Only jesting Georgy boy!

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31 Oct 2015 21:50:05
Lol : )

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31 Oct 2015 14:59:39
Is m Johnson injured for Norwich or out of selection?

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31 Oct 2015 15:48:24
If you mean Bradley, he went to Derby for £6m.

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31 Oct 2015 14:19:32
Anybody watching Liv v che?
How biased is the ref?

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31 Oct 2015 14:41:17
My old skool teacher once told me reds are the best but blues never lose. HE LIED.

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31 Oct 2015 14:58:33
He did.

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31 Oct 2015 12:53:49
Hi guys, becchio debate for you, I think we don't have anything to lose if we take him on in Jan on a month to month rolling contract, he is a free agent so no signing fee, we could stick him in the under 21s to gain match fitness, he clearly loves leeds and is passionate about playing for our badge, I don't think that would be a risk! What do you think?

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31 Oct 2015 13:40:11
Unfortunately I think his best days have gone . unless his passion can roll back the years .

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31 Oct 2015 14:14:54
Both good points. I don't think Becchio can offer us much, however a month to month contract would suit us, but would he want more? If so then I wouldn't take him, however a rolling performance related deal would be good for both parties. However

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31 Oct 2015 15:43:06
I don't see what he could offer us. It will be 3 years since he's played regular football and isn't high on confidence. Some fans have a romantic notion that he will come in and score 20 goals, when more likely he'll struggle to get 5. I'd rather give Walters and Mulhern a chance instead.

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31 Oct 2015 16:09:21
You May be right SG but surely if its not going to cost much and we allow him to train get match fit in 21s and he starts to regain sharpness and bangs in the goals he would be great cheap back up?

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31 Oct 2015 18:20:52
Be a good influence on young strikers.

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31 Oct 2015 12:52:31
Am I correct in thinking we still have a partnership with an American sports team? was it the San Francisco 49ers?
Would they be interested in owning us? There a quite a few teams owned by American teams at the moment. I can think of Fulham, Aston villa, liverpool.
Just a thought.

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31 Oct 2015 13:57:20
Not a bad idea Ben you would think the 49ers would have cash and be keen to extend their brand outside of the U. S.

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31 Oct 2015 14:39:10
Our partnership with the 49 ers is probably as solid as our right to buy those supposedly excellent Argentina prospects 10 years ago, Fotherby's attempt to buy Maradona and our current central defense. Wasn't it just meant to be an IT relationship?

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31 Oct 2015 12:47:51
Don't disagree with Evans that we need an influx of players to improve the team and on the previous performance you could easily bring in players to cover most positions. The focus in the loan window appears to be a new keeper, centre back and centre forward. Not that I disagree with this but I still feel that our midfield is the route cause of our current demise (apart from flappy in goal) . Our midfield neither provides protection to the back 4 or supplies opportunities to the strikers. It is probably difficult to find what we need in the loan window but I feel we are missing a trick in not trying to do so.

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31 Oct 2015 13:03:19
Notts ud be flappy playing behind our central defenders! Need two new ones asap!

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31 Oct 2015 13:29:59
Every coach wants new players
A good coach. Coaches and does good with what he has got
Admittedly our lot are crap. But there are worse out tgere
So
Start winning now rvans.

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31 Oct 2015 18:13:57
I think there are problems all over the field Notts. Everyone looks at least a yard off the pace. The mistakes seem to come from the back but our midfield lacks strength. We can change personnel but the players are all of the same mould. I think a midfielder is a nessessity. We get dominated far to often in this department.

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31 Oct 2015 12:45:24
I was not a supporter of the notion of bringing Becchio back to the club as its not usually a good idea to retrace your steps and there is a big question mark over his fitness. However, at the right price (wages) I now think that giving him a chance could be beneficioal. He wants to play for Leeds, he was a hero and he will make the effort I think. Elland Road is such a miserable place at the moment it would give the fans a lift to see a genuine Leeds player coming out of the tunnel. At worst he must be better than Wood.

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31 Oct 2015 12:18:30
Cellino should go because he is bigger headlines than the team . Whoever takes over will need £75 to £100 million to sort it out and buy back the assets then strengthen the team, (Red Bull would be great? but don't think they are interested ) Adam Pearson to head a group would be our best option from what we have seen recently.

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31 Oct 2015 11:48:41
Mornin silblings, well I am kinda confused about this buy out. As I understand it Cellino has a personal stake in Leeds amounting to 2%. Eleonora Sports the holding company owned by his family own 75%. Which is he selling to the fans, because quite honestly they are going to need about £40 million if its the whole shebang and there is no way that's happening. I smell more smoke and mirrors and a slight whiff of Master Bates loitering somewhere.

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31 Oct 2015 12:25:15
Spot on vid, they do not have the money unless they have a secret backer. They say its majority share they are buying so must be full 75% +paying back monies owed to cellino, the circus is in town now.

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31 Oct 2015 14:40:46
I believe the consensus of Leeds fans right now is proceed with the buyout. They'd rather be a stable League 1 side than an unstable Championship side.

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31 Oct 2015 18:26:33
As LFU have raised £500,000 at the moment cannot see where the other 30 million Cellino paid for his 75% stake will come from. I think it's clever tactics by Cellino. Doing DD on the club no one would buy us. 30 Million for a club with no assets. Cellino knows a rich backer is not coming soon. Just a case of TINA to Cellino. If he had done DD then he wouldn't have bought us.

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31 Oct 2015 10:21:04
Here is a team question. Who of the current first team players would be missed if they left. Judging this on the performances this season, who if they left would be hard to replace. I got Taylor, Cook, Botaka, probably Berardi then I struggle to pick anyone else.

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31 Oct 2015 13:32:20
Botaka? Why?
Berradi. Cook. That's it!

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31 Oct 2015 10:09:15
Our only good fortune is we don't have another game until Tuesday, this means Evans can put the players through some heavy training sessions, let's face it they don't look fit enough at the moment. Hopefully we can be looking into some loan signings as well. Expecting to see a marked improvement against Cardiff.

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31 Oct 2015 13:52:59
Well Deda land, the majority of them are not fit to put a Leeds United shirt on. They have proved that!

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31 Oct 2015 18:41:40
They looked fit enough over the previous 2 games where everyone was claiming the great revelation, turn around and re birth of Jesus etc etc.

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31 Oct 2015 09:06:56
The more I think about it the more I believe this is a backward step for us. Would like to think some multi millionaire or major player will come and buy us but its not going to happen. When Cellino bought us he was the only major player, he had no real opposition, why would it be any different now. He bought us because of the fans and sadly he is going because of the fans.
We have the most impatient fans in the land, instant success needed here or get out. Cellino rated Rosler and Milanic and think they would have had more time if not for the fans. Milanic did not even get time to know the players names before he was out. We never got hammered under Rosler, beaten by odd goal. Do we give it time to work, no.
Sad to say but we get what we deserve and I can not see any good coming out of this. Another ten years of mediocrity.

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31 Oct 2015 09:52:19
Most impatient fans in the land? How many years have we been waiting for something good to happen?

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31 Oct 2015 10:04:23
And we will be waiting another decade now.

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31 Oct 2015 13:30:21
Agree bige. Should of kept Rosler. Needed more time snd results would of come.

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31 Oct 2015 14:30:37
Cork you dreaming.

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31 Oct 2015 08:08:17
Can't believe anyone would really want Cellino out, thought his statement was really telling, "we have no assets apart from the fans". The ground on rent, training ground on rent, a squad of clearly gutless, mediocre players on contracts, and who knows how much more debt.
If Cellino goes a consortium would be a disaster, you, can't make decisions quickly if at all.
I'm worried this could be a really bad day for us. However if the Sultan of Brunei is interested I'll be right behind him. Cellino requires another Pearson, we don't require another change of owners, or for that matter another change of manager.

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31 Oct 2015 09:09:46
Completely behind you on that one. Plus if he gets banned maybe he can persuade Pearson to baby sit - I would like to see a full financial plan and understand who is involved before any consortium take over - it scares me more than MC ever has ( and that's been shocking at times) .

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31 Oct 2015 07:53:42
I have a slightly different view on all this. Firstly MC might not be ideal but for Me he saved the club and did put good money into it.

The issue for me is the players he or others bought who were or are not good enough. Remember a lot was paid for these players and there is no doubt we could probably have got better for less.

It's the player buying strategy which has caused this issue. We paid loads for Wood but look at what other teams got for less for example Zamora at Brighton, Barton at Burnley. That's what we should have gone for.

Managers have changed and I would have given Uwe more time

And this weak strategy has left us in a really poor situation! .

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31 Oct 2015 07:27:00
This fiasco will Amount to nothing other than making us look like an even bigger laughing stock. The phrase 'in principle' when added into the mix means there is no obligation to sell the club and probably no intent. If you've ever met Cellinio you'll know he's not one to give in against his will, he's had his ego bruised and has spat his dummy out, don't expect any changes in ownership soon!

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31 Oct 2015 07:18:06
Woke up this morning half hoping it was just a bad dream
It was real. Biggest load of trash of a football team I have seen in years!
Sorry to go on but blimey!
We are in trouble. We never looked like scoring against a bad Blackburn team. I'm not sure how we are going to improve! They were all clueless! Drastic changes. Blood some younguns. Give sloth a chance. Drop silv! Trouble is we ain't got a goal scorer at all.

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31 Oct 2015 01:02:38
Get in! He had to go - horrendous decision making. LUFC should be run by people who really care and know what's what. Being "now or never" maybe other parties will enter the fray? Quality stable ownership/management is key to have any chance of success.

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