Leeds Banter Archive November 02 2014

02 Nov 2014 23:47:04
The keyword is patience
Be it Red Bull or Cellino; LUFC is a cheap way for a moneyman to gain the rewards of Europe. Past experience will tell any investor that Leeds United is a sleeping giant with money spent on, a top quality young squad who can grow together and a 4/5 year plan; it is not inconcievable that the Mightywhites will be up their challenging in Europe. We still have a strong fanbase at home ( despite all the trials and tribulations) and lots of dads abroad can tell their kids of the glory days that used to be. The name Leeds still means something in Europe and given Premiership football we have a strong case for inclusion in any Pan European League.
I do not need an owner who professes undying love for the badge but I do ask that he backs the club financially whenever needed. Its a bit like buying shares advice - only invest what you can afford to lose! But do it wisely and the dividends will come.
Unfortunately it will, at some point call for an injection of cash and just as importantly a liberal dose of Patience. If anyone knows of a Buddhist billionare?

{Ed003's Note - leodis, the plans for a breakaway league have been ongoing for a while - the clubs involved aren't looking to invite other clubs - when it happens the tv money will follow it and the whole structure of our league/s may change dramatically - anyone supporting a club now wishing them to spend bucket loads of cash are very naive.}

Hi ed, first I have heard on this (naive probably)
Can you provide any more info on this breakaway league thing?

{Ed001's Note - there are a number of top European club that have been in discussions regarding it for years now. UEFA held them off with the Champions League and the reorganisation of the UEFA Cup and Cup Winners Cup into the Europa League etc. It is only a matter of time before a pan-European greed-is-good league happens though. Leeds have not been involved in the discussions, nor are they anywhere near being included, the name means little in European football terms. Leeds are not a known power on the continent I am afraid. It would take a lot more than a mere infusion of cash to get anywhere near the discussions, just ask Man City, who have been presenting their case for inclusion just in the discussions recently. Right now they are excluded, as are Liverpool, and many others. Leeds have little hope of inclusion as things stand.}

Ed - The powers that be will only invite teams that can generate money. Viewing figures both live and "sky". I would take LUFC over Swansea, Tottenham, Southampton and over most of the Premiership given that we are challenging in the Premier League and playing attractive football. To do that is where the cash comes in but not buying the best. Spending wisely which may mean finding a Suarez in Europe somewhere or the cream of the youth worldwide and let them grow with us, hence the 5 year plan. The point I was making was that given a couple of decent years in the Prem then we still have the pull abroad to attract a following

{Ed003's Note - Ed 001 has summed it up perfectly leo - my biggest concern is what happens to the clubs left behind :( .}

ED
I've been following the pan-European discussions and think they could be flawed.
I know what your saying and I think it's inevitable it's going to happen BUT it will only be a success if fans pay to watch at the turnstiles and better still if everyone cancels SKY that will probably have broadcasting rights it will die a death don't you think??
The games only as big as the audience no!!

{Ed001's Note - you are talking about a UK audience though Andy, this is a world with TVs to watch European football.}

A Pan-European league, in my opinion will be a massive success, very simply if Manchester United can generate a crowd in excess of 70.000 watching the likes of Stoke, Leicester etc, then they are certainly going to fill Old Trafford watching the likes of Barcelona, Rael Madrid, Bayern Munich, every other week.

{Ed003's Note - Just the greedy getting even more greedy imo spanish - It's all about money not fans.}

Everything said is all pie in the sky. There will never a super league imo.
Whos going to pay for it long term?
Sky?
Its not viseable because no club ids guaranteed to have continued commercial and financial success.
Its been spoken about for nearly twenty years and I can't see why it will happen any time soon.

{Ed001's Note - Sky? Why do people keep referring to Sly? They are not needed. Clubs like Madrid and Barca already sort out their own TV deals, if they were in a pan-European super league, their income from that would be guaranteed to be higher. Same with all the other clubs involved. I don't think you understand the business side of things if you don't see that. They would be guaranteed the financial success as there is unlikely to be a relegation to worry about, it would be a closed shop for the big boys.
Plus the future is online streaming rights for matches, which is projected to far outweigh TV money within the next few years.}

Bloody hate money, it twists and corrupts everything especially societys soul

{Ed001's Note - greed is always a problem. People can't be happy with what they have, they always want more.}

Maybe if the big boys all join this soppy league it will open up a slot in prem for leeds (the proper big boys) I don't want much just want leeds to be on MOTD/MOTD2 so I can go a bed early, far too old to be staying up watching the FL show

{Ed001's Note - at your age, I would want to be in bed before MOTD, let alone the FL show!}

Ah Ed 01, spoken like a true Buddhist, al suffering is self suffering, everything you do and say has an effect on everything around you and accept what is, not wish it to be more

{Ed001's Note - it is too much time watching Monkey as a child that is! Ah if only I could call a cloud by waving fingers in front of my mouth, I would be able to solve all the world's problems!!}

Lol, the good old Water Margins of Lang Shan Po. Loved Monkey, Pig was good an all!

{Ed001's Note - and the confusing monk who was clearly a woman pretending to be a bloke. The Water Margins was a different programme though wasn't it? That was the legend of the Chinese outlaws living there. I am trying to remember their names, I had the complete DVD box set years ago.}

Blimey, not sure now Ed, I know Monkey came out of an egg on top of a mountain but I thought The Water Margins was the place where they all came from!

{Ed001's Note - no Water Margins was a separate programme mate. It replaced Monkey on BBC2.}

Cheers Ed, age and alchohol have blurred my memory lol

{Ed001's Note - I only remembered by copious usage of Google....}

02 Nov 2014 22:51:42
I think Darko knocked a bit of the stuffing out of our lads, so let's hope Redders can get it back. Love our club so much.

02 Nov 2014 22:11:34
I didn't expect a win in cardiff knowing we have just changed coach again and redders needs time to get that believe back in the squad but also the first team aren't eleven year olds! They go to look at themselves and think did I really give my all today? MoT

02 Nov 2014 15:40:59
In canaries at moment and been following weeks events on blogs etc. Cannot believe the doomsayers are out already, it must have been a really settled calm week at er with redders and the team calmly preparing for the game.ffs give them a chance the changes will have caused damage and we need time to settle and recover like any business. We must give the new set up our full support until Xmas and see where we are then.keep the faith MOT

02 Nov 2014 13:24:35
I didn't watch or listen to yesterdays game and therefore could someone shed light on the formation yesterday. The personnel selected suggested a 4-3-3 which would have been a bold choice given the Cardiff despite their position are one of the strongest teams in the league. Before the 'Give him time' brigade chime in, I am interested as to why the change was made (I appreciate that someone different may have been needed), was there signs it could work in the future

02 Nov 2014 12:17:04
I am sure that many of the faithfull will welcome Red Bull with Wings with the promise that we will soar up the table.

Personally, Red Bull has always given me a headache and insomnia - No Change There Then.

If Red Bull fails to deliver its promise (as claimed in the USA), will we all receive a tickets refund when we leave the ground?

02 Nov 2014 10:12:02
Wasn't at the game but just wondered how the back 4 played yesterday as they looked poor on the highlights - Bellusci particularly. He didn't jump with his man for the first goal, he backed off his man for the second & then he & Silvestri ballsed up for the second. Pearce looked to have a torrid time too but as I say just based on what was on the highlights - how was it yesterday? Whilst it sounds like I'm bashing the defence they don't really get much protection from the midfield sometimes do they. Still a work in progress though so not all doom & gloom. I never expected this season to be plain sailing & said months ago I would be happy for a season of building & consolidating & my view hasn't changed.

02 Nov 2014 08:25:07
Hear that Connor Wickham is looking to go abroad end of season to try and revive his International career

As he was on loan with us, should we try and offer him a permanent punt?

We are not really abroad though Essex, are we?

02 Nov 2014 17:49:33
If it ain't in Yorkshire, it's not worth bothering with.

That's true Georgie!!