Leeds Banter Archive August 02 2013

02 Aug 2013 17:37:11
not one for posting who we should bring in as aplayer, but this week spotted a player who could just do a job for us. BILLY (yes)mckay of calidonian thistle. Have alook see what you think!
not dragging the past up, awee scot called billy. (even though he is irish).

02 Aug 2013 16:30:46
Alright. Getting narky now because I can't sort this. Anyone in OZ know what program's to download to possibly get the game Saturday? Last year I used Ustream for the first half of the year but then couldn't get it after that. I've heard radio leeds but can't download as its UK only. Any help appreciated!

Firstrow that's what I watch all the matches on and its free

02 Aug 2013 12:14:18
Its worth reminding ourselves that the purchase of Elland Road does not mean that the stadium belongs to Leeds Utd. It just means that the stadium belongs to the same people who own Leeds Utd. There's a subtle but important difference!

Whilst the OP is probably correct, surely it would still be better for future investment

Sorry but I don't understand this post? If we are given enough money to buy back the stadium then it WILL belong to us ?

It is always that way for any club anywhere and was for us til the time we sold it. As the saying goes, you can have shares in something but that same something doesn't have shares in you! The important part will be the club will own the ground again.

It won't happen like that. gfh are an investment company looking for investors. The main stumbling block for most would be investors is the lack of assetts to offset the risk of investment. Leeds United or leeds holdings ( parent company) can provide that with owning ER. Buying the business under any guise would be counter productive.

02 Aug 2013 12:16:08
I have heard from someone I don't really know who's not connected to the club that we aren't signing anyone today. You heard it here first! #MOT hope to see you all there tomorrow c'mon LEEDS!!!!

The first rumour I actually believe. MOT

You need to put FACT at the end of your statement. no-one will question it then!

02 Aug 2013 10:36:14
With a new multi million investment through the door, Big Brian Mac is bringing is targets after the Brighton game. Expect big and exciting names. Gary Mac Stevens back on the cards, Adomah and tommy rowe also keen. Kevin Doyle, ALF or Nathen Delfonso will be the new number 9. The new cb will be roger johnson or Matt Mills and new keeper will also now be on the agenda. FACT. MOT see you all saturday!

Gary Mac Stevens is out injured for 3 months

02 Aug 2013 13:34:10
I see John Fitz is back with a new name!

GHF will not buy players until players leve the club. The investment deal is to do with the ground, I'm not saying it will not give Brian funds because it will due to us not paying rent but I wouldn't expect any players arriving on big wages. By the end off the window I expect us to have a winger and a centre half. Maybe a goal scorer if one off our strikers leve.

02 Aug 2013 10:02:58
am I missing the point.
yes its good to have elland road as an asset.
but i'd certainly prefer money spent on players to go up instead of the ground at present.
it maybe there was no option as investor was only interested in that but like to see details when out.
you would have thought that with getting up this would generate the cash to purchase the ground as well as new players for prem.
perhaps i'm missing the point. shrew leeds

02 Aug 2013 11:53:57
yes but we spend 2mil a year on rent so if we owned it then that 2mil can go towards transfers

Maybe we can't change the name unless we own it, therefore any investment on naming rights of the stadium would invole us buying the ground back so we change the name?

Looks like the investment is coming from a company looking at sponsorship opportunities rather than a percentage of the club and a direct return on their investment. They would gain nothing from their money being spent on players whereas a ground buy back/sponsorship is win, win. The investing company gets ground naming rights while the club own the ground freeing up the cash that would have been used for ground rent, (£2m per year if local press are to be believed) which can then be invested in the squad

Your right in a way mate but mayby the investors wanted some collateral for there money

Having the ground back would mean a saving of 2mil (i think) a year on rent, that coupled with more attendances (lets say 5000) would mean the club are between 3-4mil better off a year.

Although not immediate, would allow us to add in January for the final push. I reakon we have one (2 at most) more signing in us before the window shuts.

and let's not forget, if we own that stadium it makes us more attaractive to perspective buyrers (fortifying the chairmans statement wanting to sell in 18 months)

IMO he is setting up the club for a sale. As in the perspective buyer is already engaged.

Once we buy ER and TA back we save £2m a year, that could then be spent on players every year instead?

It's thinking long term for once.

Totally agree with you. if they want to buy ground wait til we are up. we need players not to own stadium.

I thinik you are missing the point
Sinnyboy

I think maybe you are Shrew, surely owning you're own ground and not having to pay 2 mil per year to the council is better for the football club not only short term but long term as well, you have to have solid foundations in which to build a team capable of challenging at the highest level and personally I think this is a massive step in the right direction.

You are missing the point, I don't know how much the rent is but I think it's 2 mill a year which could be put into the team every year.

Fair comment lads I missed the point.
Didn't think about the 2 mill a year saving but then again what have we paid. you don't give away a good earner.
And cash is king. shrew leeds

02 Aug 2013 08:39:07
Hearing so many different stories on here, can somebody please clear this up for me?

Will I be able to listen to the game on digital radio or not?

thanks guys

Danny LS8

I live in East Yorkshire and cannot get Radio Leeds on FM or DAB, gutted.

You can get tv Radio Leeds on DAB. So yes.

Thanks :)

MOT

Danny LS8

02 Aug 2013 07:59:46
Medical GP here. When discussing Sam Byram this summer, it's been all transfer and value speculations. I'm more worried by his health! He's out for Brighton game "with the same hip injury that made him miss the end of last season". "Will have an injection, and situation evaluated after a week". In medical terms this tells it's a chronical disorder, and when bothered him so long, the injection won't work! My sad conclusion is that young Sam with odds 80/20 will need surgery, and will be out at least until christmas, probably longer. Not all players will regain momentum and ability when they suffer breaks like this so early!
Hope I'm wrong, believe I'm not!
Sorry!

Dont you mean chronic physical disorder. there is no such word as chronical it is chronicle which is a journal. a medical professional would know this.

OP, additional comment: Sadly this is what HAS to happen when a youngster is put in starting lineup every game in his first year of competitive senior football. Someone should have put foot down! Neil Warnock deserves credit for bringing Byram into the team, but massive blame for not matching him more carefully! He may well have ruined our most valuable asset in his desperate hunt for own glory!

Ok - sorry for poor english, medical pro I am, foreign, even worked with sports medicine (football team) for five years - and LUFC in my blood for forty years! And just wait and see, there is no "fast solution" to Byrams problem!

01 Aug 2013 23:29:06
If Leeds bought back ER and or TA but the team finished 7-12th would fans consider the season PROGRESSIVE? (against last years finish?)

Yes

I think most people tend to forget (or try to forget and hope for the best case scenario and I won't lie I'm one of those people) and hope that the team was more important than the infrastructure. However, I'd be content to see us finish in that area knowing that we are in a transition and knowing that we had the infrastructure almost (or completely) in place to take us forward for a surge with a team that has better chemistry


MOT!


F92

Personally I would as this season GFH are creating a solid united stable club and creating the foundations for a promotion push even before its started this season is 10x better than last

Yes stability is key Salah Nooruddin (chairman) said 'we don't want a flash in the pan' would rather build a team of good youth and invest in things that will only make the club better. Lookat how many clubs last year that spent £4-5 million and did nothing. I wouldn't care if we didn't get promoted for the next two or three seasons as long as we were increasing the value of the club and buying player smartly. Not like the last few season prior to this. MOT in BM we trust

Personally I would. There are a lot of things changing off the pitch which are a huge improvement. And I believe we're on the verge of seeing another crop of youngsters coming through. I'd rather see us use Youth as opposed to buy promotion like other clubs have done anyway. It's the Leeds way. Obviously some fans will find something to moan about regardless.

Financial stability will bring longer term success
The other way will bring only short term success and hardship
Team value not great so need to own something to encourage more investment.

Yes this would IMO be progress, the ground ownership is vital for stability of the club. But maybe we can buy the ground and get promotion this year, Imagine that!
see you all tomorrow.
DP

Bates has GONE, that is progress in itself mate!

The club have set us a target of two years to get into the prem! I want success but if we can get back our assets and build a team for the prem over the next year I think that would be better then scrapping through with what we have and not having the players to keep us up.

01 Aug 2013 22:34:09
GFH close to getting back ER in a multy mill investment deal
Could this be Red Bull