Leeds Banter Archive September 29 2016

29 Sep 2016 15:52:11
Why the fuss over managers and owners of lower league clubs? Why no mention of the 8 premier league managers that is where the real story is all this talk of cellino and Jimmy is a smoke screen to cover up the big story.

29 Sep 2016 16:23:33
Go on Wex, dish the dirt. Break the story :-)

{Ed001's Note - I think he has missed the point, the Torygraph are releasing the story in daily instalments to get subscribers to the paper's website. They are no doubt holding onto the names of those 8 managers for later on, as you always save the biggest story for last.}

29 Sep 2016 19:38:03
Excellent post Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - thank you.}

30 Sep 2016 11:08:58
Ed is right expect the weekend to be the real meat of this story and the biggest names regarding the premiership making it the biggest talking point on phone in's across the nation and on social media.

29 Sep 2016 12:55:40
Having watched the video and look at what is being stated in print. Cellino doesn't seem to imply on the video what is being written. Unless the video has been edited there is really no case here. But one serious question arises, giving the timing of the undercover operation mean Cellino will be banned over the McBadgekisser bung case?

29 Sep 2016 15:44:55
Good post Deda. I agree, there doesn't appear to be a case to answer based on the video we're seeing at the moment.

I think many people are allowing their dislike for MC to cloud their judgement on this story. What MC has said does not break any laws/ rules (in my opinion) , and therefore I can't see why he should "rot in jail"?

However, the McBadgeKisser case does worry me slightly and could be the final straw. I'm not convinced anyone has an agenda against LUFC, but I think this case "could" be enough to put MC on another (permanent? ) ownership ban. Obviously only time will tell.

29 Sep 2016 16:59:24
The inept (majority) always jump ont bandwagon without fully knowing all details. I think its called I can't think for myself itus.

29 Sep 2016 10:27:32
Didn't think it would be long before the scandal got around to us. Just waiting for JFH and Wright to be referred as ex Leeds United players. These operations take months to set up so the targets have been carefully scrutinised before being approached. On a more serious note was this part of the takeover rumours, we thought we were being taken over by billionaires but we're being duped by The Telegraph.

29 Sep 2016 10:47:09
It doesn't appear to me that Cellino has done anything wrong at all. The undercover reporters asked if they could invest in Leeds to buy players (all legit) , then if they could then take a percentage of any sell on (dodgy) . Cellino quite rightly said NO and that was against Fifa rules. He has said nothing wrong in his interview at all and went on to ask if these so called 'investors' were interested in buying 20%. Nothing wrong there at all as he wanted GFH out and went on to purchase the 20% himself days after.
Typical gutter press trying to bring Leeds down yet again and there's no substance or scandal in anything they've reported. Jimmy Floyd and Tommy Wright on the other hand are deep in the doodoo!
It must be a huge shame for the FA who would love to nail Leeds/ Cellino and maybe we'll get punished in any case under the rule that both Jimmy and Wright once played for Leeds United, but I can't see any of these allegations sticking with Cellino.

MM.

29 Sep 2016 11:23:43
I've just listened and read the MC stuff. Quite right MM. Think they will find MC is in the clear on this one. Won't stop the pressing printing what they want of course.

29 Sep 2016 12:42:42
Mick/ Speedy

you guys are right, all MC has said is invest in club and you get dividends/ a return for your cash, which is the normal way of company investment.

Papers will not sell it that way, the press boys all stick together on this.

Judged by the press? No thank you as they are not known for their honesty! ( I remember the Sun reporting on hillsborough etc)

I'm more interested in news of how the giant Swed and Bridcut are re fitness.

29 Sep 2016 13:28:58
Bridcutt out 6 to 8 weeks. Thought it was odd that he had missed the last 2 weeks with bruising, more likely a broken shin bone. Monk guilding the lilly a tad with regards to his imminent return. Monk claims that Jansson may be fit for Saturday although I would not hold your breath as I think Monk is trying not to divulge his team (not a problem with that)

29 Sep 2016 14:34:17
Yes DG. It's going to be particularly bad news if Pontus is going to be out, which I suspect he will be.

29 Sep 2016 01:01:23
Here we go again - another paper ( this time the Telegraph) stirring stuff up to sell papers - Alladyce, Hasdlebaink, Wright and Cellino all implicated in a scandal - I know there has to be rules but to dig stuff up like this is just sensationalism - I doubt there are many who make a living from football who hasn't done something dodgy at one time or another so shall we expose them all and have no game left.

29 Sep 2016 04:54:32
Kray

Good post but I think one of the angles and points to the expose is how intentionally bureaucratic and insipid the football governing authorities are. I'd much prefer zero corruption in the game but if this is impossible the authorities must apply their own rules not pay them lip service. Otherwise I'd much prefer widespread corruption and no rules whatsoever. At least that would be honest and accurate. You think these allegations came as surprise to the FA. They knew all about Allardyce but made him national coach anyhow and they know about others too. The Telegraph message is the FA can no longer ignore what's happening.

29 Sep 2016 07:57:27
Backhanders and 'trying to get one over' on the 'system' are part and parcel of doing business and is nothing new. Whilst I do not condone it, there will always be someone somewhere trying to make a few extra quid, a fast buck or line their pockets. By nature of entrapment is equally devious and underhand in my book. Whilst it always puts the people with money in a greater position, unfortunately there just is not enough moral courage out there to ever stop 'dodgy' 'insider' or third party dealing. How many people out there can put their hand on their heart and say they haven't 'bent' the rules or the truth in order to get a desired result? These things are always sensationalised and people who sit there and shake their head should look inwardly first. That of course is not pointed at anyone in particular and is just an observation. MOT. Stay positive and keep the faith.

29 Sep 2016 09:06:51
I cannot believe that supporters are blaming the press for exposing the filthy greedy grubby activities of our corrupt owner. let's spell it out. What Cellino is saying is that if you are an owner of Leeds United, then you, as a shareholder, can take 100% cash generated from the sale of players without it going through the club's books and accounts. The rules state that this money should go into the Club and shareholders should take any money out through a dividend, just to make it all transparent and above board. So when you wonder how come money seems to disappear when players are sold and the Club's finances don't seem to improve, you now know at least one of the reasons why. You may say that it is OK and everyone should leave Cellino alone to get on with it; I say it is not OK and they should stick him in jail to rot. Stop believing Cellino is some sort of charitable saviour. He is a spiv and a leech and I hope we can rid ourselves of him in the very near future. There is a reason the press targeted the individuals they did in that operation, and it is nothing to do with a vendetta against Leeds United.

29 Sep 2016 13:24:54
Reality

You think Bates any different? I can assure you Ridsdale was the same.

Everyone is growing a conscience after the FIFA arrests. Is it good for the game? Yes. Is it good for Leeds? We're running out of time. This takeover needs to happen before the end of the season imho.

29 Sep 2016 17:36:27
Reality, there is a difference between exposing 'greedy grubby deal' and setting someone up for a fall - which didn't work by the way! And then linking it to other setups which did! If you don't like MC then fine, if you think some of his methods are questionable, then fine. Just don't forget who paid our wages when he wasn't even officially in charge of the club! Cause GFH refused! He dug out for us and yes he has his flaws - don't we all? His are just sensationalised 😱 Trying to get investment to take the club forward isn't a crime!