Leeds Banter Archive December 29 2011

29 Dec 2011 21:54:17
Montgomery and quinn anyone?

Oh no, please, not again...........

29 Dec 2011 20:57:09
Bruce is our second best CB I hope he gets his chance now!

29 Dec 2011 17:38:36
leeds have recalled alex bruce from his loan spell...jm

29 Dec 2011 16:15:02
Have heard rumours that if Leeds recieve decent offers for any of the 'big' players like Howson, Snoddy, Clayton etc then Ken Bates will let them go during the transfer window, regardless of whether Grayson wants to keep them or not as KB doesn't want to risk us missing out on promotion again and the big players values depreciatting in the summer. And were talking of offers around 4-5m not the stupid prices regularly quoted on this site, remember this is KB were talking about not a sensible chairman. And yes I do know that this means we would probably miss promotion but KB is looking at the potential profit from these players and the chance to sign another set of unknowns at low prices who can be trained into good players (then repeat cycle). May also mean another manager if KB and SG clash over this.

MOT

I think this is less a rumour and more a fairly accurate portrait of how most championship and bottom level premiership clubs function on a day to day basis to be honest.

Load of rot!!

29 Dec 2011 15:51:28
I am a lifelong LUFC fan and have to say that I'm sick and tired of the excuses that get told by the hierarchy and posted by other so called LUFC fans.

The current squad is full of crap (sorry, but we just have to admit that besides the history and fan base that we simply are not good enough) except a few exceptional players that we probably won't keep. Get rid of Larry as his track record for signing and loaning are woeful and probably the reason KB gives him no money. Get rid of most of the defence, especially Bruce who plays on his dad's reputation and not his own.
We have a huge squad that we could cut by half and not even notice (except the wage bill would be lower). Then we get a new manager and start to build a squad capable of getting and wanting promotion, and most importantly don't forget who gave them the opportunity in the first place (remember Kewell and Beckford?) instead of wanting to leave when the going gets tough. We might actually start getting somewhere then.

Bruce doesnt play though thats the thing, and i dont think kewell and beckford should be put in the same comparison

We got no money! No more complicated than that! We are being run like any other medium size business operating in the UK. Living within our means. It's the exact opposite of Ridsdale's "living the dream". Leeds won't have any decent money until they get back into the Premiership.

29 Dec 2011 13:39:31
only a suggestion but Beckford back from Fester be worth a move?! they would probably ask for £2m which would completely write us out of the picture but he has not settled at all since joining them.

i would certainly ahve him back with open arms

Why would you want a player back who does not want to play for you? let him fester where he his the ungrateful person that he is (refuse to use bad language). At least Smithy went cos we had to sell him - I'd take him back as he has something our current squad lacks - abition, drive and tenacity...

The reason i would have him back is because of his goal scoring record mate! approx 75 goals in 125 apperances! u can talk all you like about 'players who dont want to play for us' but there's no loyality in football these days anyway! do you think we willl ever have a squad of 25 players who all 110%, wholeheartldy wanna play for leeds? get real mate!

as for sayin at least Smith had to leave, beckford just wanted to leave its pathetic....when any Premiership club comes calls, offering more money you jump at it! he's only human at the end of the day and besides this it's not like he went to a Wigan, Wolves, Birmingham....Everton at the time were a top 10 club.

get back to reality mate

Why would u want smith back he would get injured 10 mins in?

Would not have Beckford back. He needed at least eight chances (in league 1) before he scored. That was the ongoing joke in the ground at the time. He relied on others to do the creating and his 'goals to chances' isn't that good that's why he is not doing so good now. If you are thinking about the times when he scored with just one chance or two and remember his goal at Old Trafford. His first touch was poor and if the goal keeper hadnt made the mistake of rushing out there would have been no goal. Two errors and he scores. Look at Somma's goal against Millwall to see how it should be done. The build up was almost exactly the same but look at the control and finish. Beckford thought he was better than he was but cant hack it with the big boys.

Typical of many clowns who come on here - wouldn't want Beckford back but would take Smith back! Just too stupid for words! Bates called some fans "morons" - that isn't a strong enough word for one or two who spout off on here!!

I am the original poster and it baffles me that anybody could say they wouldnt want a striker who scored over 60 goals in 2 seasons is out of their mind. fair enough it was only in league one i accept that but you can only beat whats in front of you.

and as for the comment about Somma's goal against millwall, which i somewhat agree with and i do like Somma as a player i think he's a gd goal scorer, however - when he has the goal scoring record of Beckford then your argument is a good one, until then im afraid not.

you can say he needed 8 chances to score 2 goals etc but name me a striker in the championship who creates 8 chances for himself per game!? a striker will always be judged on his goalscoring record and Beckfords at Leeds was superb.

Wouldn't have Beckford back or Smith or any of the ones that have left. Dont think I am a person but i believe Beckford was over rated. OK in League one when his colleagues were carving out chance after chance so he could score just one in eight.Look at what he has done since he left - not a lot. Cant keep his place at Leicester why would we want him back. I saw him play home and away. Didn't see him as a premiership player and thought he would probably struggle in the championship. Thats the way it has turned out.

Only in league one.

29 Dec 2011 12:08:00
Leeds ticket office is a joke!

WHATS HAPPENED TO MAKE YOU HISSY FIT

29 Dec 2011 10:35:18
how bad can it get for sg?? if there is money to spend then spend it you donkey, if not resign and state the reason why you left i.e no money to spend, we are a selling club with no ambition for the prem and that the chairman is giving you totally unrealistic targets. you would easily get another job with your track record and it would just be nice to know why we are so appauling in the transfer windows along with the footballing side

Grayson's doing the job he wants most in the world which is why he's putting up with the situation. Given the players taken from him and the money he doesn't have - he's been told we can't keep Keogh because he's too expensive at 750k ish - he's done really well. That's what makes me angry about the anti-Grayson lot - they don't seem to have any grip on reality. There is only so much you can do in the Championship with a squad that isn't even as good as our league 1 squad...

Im original poster and yes grayson is doing the best in a bad situation but if he keeps agreeing with bates and adding fuel to the fire saying there is money to spend he aint winning over any fans by not getting the players in. if there is no money and he does get the boot he should do an interview with the yep and tell the fans what has really happened behind the scenes and that basically he gives bates his wishlist, bates crosses any player off that costs a fee and shaun harvey fails miserably in securing the good players!

I'm the second poster and I agree entirely but Grayson's probably signed a legally binding non-disclosure agreement though which would prevent him talking to the press if he wanted to be paid out on any remaining contract when he does get sacked.

29 Dec 2011 10:14:34
Bottom line,Grayson knows the score if he doesn't get us promoted his jobs on the line and according to Santa clause the money is available to stregthen so based on recent performances it doesn't take a genius to work out what he needs to do .
Solid hard working midfielder,tighten up the back four and bring in a good quality striker that will terrorise back 4s.
We need to stop bobbing along now and make the push.MOT.

When has he said there is money to spend and actually put a figure on it? This weekend Bates has said we can't afford Keogh at around 600-800k so if he has said that then he's contradicting himself.

Anyway, those of us who've bothered to actually look at the accounts and know how to interpret a balance sheet can tell you definitively that there is no money to spend on players unless there is a cash injection from Bates or an outside investor waiting in the wings.

29 Dec 2011 02:03:33
people must have less brain cells than the cast of TOWIE to say that LUFC is worse off than when Grayson took over, nobody seen what divison we are in compared to when he took over, one higher than when we took over im led to believe, come on people use your heads!

I have an iq of 144 and the team is worse than when grayson took over. Different opinion to you does not mean less brain cells

I had an iq of 154 about 3 years ago and simon grayson has done well to put us in the position we are in and i thank him for that but leeds are going down hill now, we are worse than we were last year. tactically grayson isn't experienced enough to get us promoted to the premier league

An IQ of 154 puts you in the top one percentile on Mensa ratings. 144 puts you in the top two. I find it hard to believe that someone with an IQ of 144/154 can't correctly capitalise or punctuate a sentence. I also fail to see what IQ has to do with anything; intelligent people often disagree about esoteric issues such as football tactics since it's hardly an exact science. I'm not sure we can judge Grayson on tactics in any case since he has to work with a poor squad and no money. If he'd had Leicester money and the performances were still as inconsistent then that would seem fair but since he's lost good players and had to replace them with frees & loans I really can't see how anyone can judge him in that way.

Correct 144 puts me in top 2 per cent. You try using correct grammar on my non smart phone.

Tetchy! The point still stands; a high IQ doesn't make your view any more valid anyone else's.