Leeds Banter Archive September 28 2015

28 Sep 2015 18:56:57
Talk on Leeds game v Middlesbrough bad day at the office we will get games like that but what worry's me is we will sell Sam Byram in January for I would expect cheap with only 6 months left on contract . I say good his attitude is poor but how can Leeds compete with the top teams in the championship if we want to cut players wages offering Sam Byram new 4 year deal with less money than he is on aswell . this tells me wages are costing us players the striker that picked Wednesday over Leeds . they offered more money joey Barton again down to wages we didn't get him would of given us premier experience Just my view Leeds won't go up in next 2 years hope I'm wrong mot

28 Sep 2015 20:08:41
Have sympathy for your argument! Our problem is we need £2million a season for rent on ER and TA,plus our past owners have left us with unpaid bills,which we get stung for every year.

28 Sep 2015 22:30:22
Blame it on the GFH

29 Sep 2015 10:53:37
I blame Tom Lees

29 Sep 2015 16:32:19
Deda Land is right about the rent but don't forget everything else. We as a club were losing a little over £1m a month when Cellino came in. We had players on inflated wages we couldn't really afford and a huge amount background staff we didn't really need. All that's been trimmed back to the point where we have a young team (many of which are in house developed) and we are supposedly just about breaking even now.

We missed out on Barton, would have loved to get him, but we offered £20k a week which is a top Championship wage, he wanted double. Forestieri would have cost more than Wood and has scored 1 goal so no real missed opportunity.
As for Byram i'm surprised we offered a lower wage but its good we are not been held to ransom by players on wages above their skill level or agents asking for prem wages for their clients.

28 Sep 2015 13:04:19
seen a lot of negavite posts, and I can see where some are coming from and yes yesterday was a bit of a joke however.

so many have said defence is a joke or poor. we have been hard to beat this year. we have not conceeded that many in general, so defence can't be that bad, taylor is great player at this level and exciting prospect, Baradi is as good as it gets in champ, sol is good although his style will lead to costly mistakes (reading game so if wrong it opens up) cooper has been very good this year and saved many goals. Yesterday we played a poor player any defensive unit will fall apart when one peice of the unit is not good enough. So would like a cb but when cooper plays we are not that bad at all.

to lack of pace issues. cook has pace and burst forward well, mowatt is not quick and hs been poor this season but showed class last season, murphy also is decent at this level, adimei is not quick but his game is to break play not break forward. Dallas, SB and dakota, all showed pace purpose and skill so this is not bad, Ant is quality and wood is great, some people have even slated wood how his record for us has been good, his record before us has been good.

we are work in process and getting better every week, yesterday showed how one player can ruin a good performance as we were not that bad yesterday and had a good goal chalked off (so were not toothless) things will get better and to all leeds fans slagging us off, saying joke and disgrace get a grip that is not what leeds are about. I have lost it in the past but not with a team and performances like this season, things are on up not down so MOT don't PAB (P@@s and B@@ch)

28 Sep 2015 14:27:55
Berm White

I tend to agree with most of what you say, team is building and that game was more like a 2-1 defeat than 3-0 in many aspects and anyway 1 game does not make you great or a disgrace, never understand people who seem to judge on a single specific performance it is more about the general direction/feel of the team which in my opinion has potential.

Mind you does anyone know what he put Bell-End in instead of cooper? I get the other changes but not this one, for me you keep you center back pairing the same as much as possible so I don't get the logic of the pick, even if he had played OK I would still have said this, a big risk which failed big time.

Also I would not have Doukara in the team, he hasn't done anything for ages, give either Erwin or that kid he is scoring in the U21's a go, why not, we know what douk can do (not much) so have something different that may be better.

Anyone heard of Wood's injury in terms of how long out?

If he is fit then out front options (wood/ buckley/ Dallas with the wiz/ant on bench is a very strong championship attack), back 4 could be reasonable with Bamba/ coopers, Taylor/ Berardi with Bryam on bench, I would say maybe look at another experienced center half as clearly Bellusci has lost it. so our full backs are very strong for the championship, CH's are around average I would say and flapper is all things considered again just above average keeper for championship.

So far not bad, now midfield, Cook is clearly top dog get in most championship sides so that leaves us with Mowatt / Phillips / Adeyemi / Murphy for the other 2 places you would think that with cook our midfield could be very strong, it is just lacking a little for me at the moment now can 2 of the other come good more of the time (all have shown potential but none of them often enough for me) or do we get an experienced holding/enforcer type to keep midfield ticking?

So 2 questions my fellow fans do we need to strengthen the midfield/defense and (bearing in mind the money) which one should we do if we can only strengthen one more area?

We will win on Saturday now, I can sense it.

28 Sep 2015 17:47:54
Good post that berm lad

29 Sep 2015 09:45:38
I agree with what you're saying BW, but most of the posts I have read on here have been positive about the performance and the only slagging off has been for Bellusci's woeful performance. You mentioned him being the one weak link in the defensive unit which was exactly the same thing as I said last week. For the OG, we weren't set up badly at all and when the ball came into the box, were favourites to deal with it if the said players listened to the shout and did the simple things effectively. What Bellusci did was unforgivable and tried to make himself look good (which he does on a regular basis) and completely threw out the basic principles of defending.

I think in the main most fans on here and the ones I have spoken to at ER are quietly confident. We are improving and will get better as the season goes on. A top ten finish is still very much a reality. I don't think Cellino will want us to get into the play-offs judging by his comments and will not invest in January. Like DG or George said, it's very hard to do business in January in any case.

MM

29 Sep 2015 16:49:24
For me Middlesbrough are the strongest team in the League. I had them going up as champions before the first game and it looks like a good bet still. As a result I had them away as the toughest game of the season and a probable loss. For them to win it due to a moment of madness and some wretched luck rather than playing us off the pitch? That should be a cause for optimism not concern.

28 Sep 2015 08:24:08
Ok, going to throw one out there. 11 points from next 5 games minimum. We are about to have a change in fortune 🍻. MOT

28 Sep 2015 10:31:47
and 3 2 1 back in the room!!