Leeds Banter Archive June 28 2013

 

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28 Jun 2013 22:51:55
Oh no, we have loaned out an injury-prone, average-at-best striker to Millwall with a clause that he cannot play against us (in case the ball deflects off him whilst he's tying his laces and trickles over the line). let's be serious here, Steve Morrison's arrival at Elland Road was not what NW called a 'good deal' for Leeds United, it was (on a much smaller scale) the Andy Carroll to Liverpool move; a rush to find a replacement and Norwich gave us their worst option. and we bit their hands off. I would have rather seen him go on a permanent deal, giving Brian some pennies to play with, however it's better than him keeping his £17k a week place on the bench warm I suppose. Now I'm not saying Steve at all lived up the heights achieved by a certain Liam Dickinson of completely sucking in the white shirt, and with injury really affecting his playing time who knows, he may have turned out 'ok', I just feel all the 'no-money' claims because we have loaned a player is ridiculous.
Secondly, Just because a player isn't a huge name or cost millions does not mean to say that they are not good; Beckford? Howson? Delph? Johnson? Becchio? Snodgrass?. All from either lower league opposition or the youth system, and we wouldn't say no to one of them! The window opens on July the 1st, patience, we can judge GFH-C, Brian and the players on the league table after Derby visit Elland road. Simple.

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Willing to bet Morrisson out scores any of our players this season we look more like Portsmouth every day

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^^^^ what a ridiculous statement

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Morison will be a man possessed for Millwall. I'll make a predo he gets over 25 league goals for season.

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Weve all said Morison isn't good enough. , so hats off to McD for getting him off the wage bill[`17k a week ]Millwall were never going to buy him, as money is tight for all the championship clubs. So get off the clubs back, and judge them when the season starts, instead of taking pot shots at it now, when they have only just started training.

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29 Jun 2013 08:52:54
Morrison will turn out good this season. But if the Mac wants to play a certain way, then I say let him. Will be better than the dross we saw last year. And Rosco is the most talented player we have in our limited squad. Play him the right way, and he can spark the whole team: BmcD can see that and will do it!

Warsteiner white

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Steve morison didn't have a great time at leeds last season however he did prove he could score goals with good service. How many times last season did you see him miss a good chance? Steve very rarely got the chance to even take a shot last season due to our lack of service so if Brian is going to get 2 wingers to give the forwards service I think he would have scored goals for fun. Even if you don't agree, surely a recall clause wouldn't go a miss just in case he starts scoring goals or we could have sent him out on a short term loan and then sell him if he doesn't do good on loan

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Well said. Morison wasn't the man for us. Hunt maybe, he may not be but by freeing up the 17k a week Morison was on that gives us just under 900k to play with budget wise. This could be spent on a small loan fee for someone, contributions to loaner wages plus some freebie deals like Hunt wages. It's all good

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Morrison is far better than noel hunt and this smith lad we brought so its very bad news and dnt make any sense atall, morrison never got a fair chance with us and this deal will hit us hard as he will score goals for millwall and not us silly silly leeds

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28 Jun 2013 22:49:59
Just to stop the negativity, been looking at daily smelegraph website and most teams have been signing players on frees.

Not many teams seem to be splashing the cash. Yet anyway. {Ed003's Note - Exactly,finances are changing for championship clubs apart from the relegated teams with the parachute payments I don't see many spending loads myself either}

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The point is we can't even afford a to get a free signing without having to offload

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The problem is our team needs a lot of changes where the other teams dont. if you look at our team and compare it to others we have a really weak team. only mccormack, byram, lees, green are any good in our whole team, and morrison was good also but leeds loan him out sorry but its just pathetic

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28 Jun 2013 22:30:12
morison was apparently worth very close to the same value as becchio and now we let him go on loan. awesome bit of business . I think he would of come good in the end. oh well guess who will score past us this season.

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Well not Morrison he can't play against his parent club

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29 Jun 2013 08:55:40
Who will score against us this season?

Billy painter decorater!

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Morrison wnt score v us but he will score plenty for millwall and show how stupid leeds are for loaning him out, should have sold if anything.

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What did beccio do last season for Norwich? Morrison would of being good for us this season given the chance your all quick to slag him off 20-25 goals for him next season and I hope he does to prove the new to the new owners

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29 Jun 2013 13:43:00
It was Warnock who did the Morrison deal - Maybe McD thinks he's S#it and would rather spend his wages elsewhere - end of last season the majority of posts on here were negative against Morrison

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28 Jun 2013 22:06:11
Really feel the academy and youngsters will step up. They have to and if 2 or 3 have a season like Byram things will get very interesting.

They will have the hunger and drive to prove themselves to MCD

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Totally agree hope poleon does not go out on loan and hope dawson gets more than a couple of games to show his worth

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Poleon did nothing on loan last season so don't understand why people think he is going to come good for us

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He just looked to offer a bit more up front than anybody else did and Bury and Sheffield Utd were both impressed by him. He has the pace we lacked last season.

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28 Jun 2013 21:36:18
Any body spotted the leeds flag at glastonbury mot

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Just a town full of Leeds fans

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Good spot mate. Like it. Will keep an eye out.

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Pyramid stage just to the left as you look on tv. The first footy flag I've seen

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28 Jun 2013 19:58:01
Just a thought, I for one feel leeds should keep aidy white because he's young (what BMC likes) and I think has quality, I mean look at his proof romance against Tottenham with bale and Lennon switching each time, kept em both quiet but just my opinion, what do you lot think I think he'll come on quite a lot this season

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MY Jury went out for him about 3 years ago, nothing but brainless pace

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Are you being ironic, he is a league one player at best and not good enough for Leeds. Get rid to free up wages

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Hes useless just fast and that's it. I can't believe anyone would want him tbh

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I said for a number of years he wasn't good enough. If he had any potential it went out of the window when he was demolished in the cup tie with arsenal and was taken off to prevent any him taking any further punishment. Apart from the odd occasion (eg Everton) he has never done anything else of note. Pace nothing more.

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28 Jun 2013 21:15:50
why don't we support our great team anymore, we allways complain about our players, our owners, our managers, we have spent big in the past and look where it has got us. true fans who boycot games so club does not have the funds to sign players. i'm ashamed to say I support leeds utd because were not supporting our club anymore. marching on together joke joke joke.

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28 Jun 2013 21:52:17
Im proud to be a Leeds fan but ashamed and embarrassed by my club ( if that's possible)

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29 Jun 2013 09:00:03
Never be ashamed of this club!
Be more ashamed of people who whinge about it! Be embarrassed of the way things have been run over recent years, yes, but be proud to be a white!

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28 Jun 2013 21:03:18
I said a while back that gfh=bates and are a front to attract investors as they refused to deal with him. Nothing has changed my mind on this as we are no better off and if you or I were buying Leeds would you agree for him to remain at your club in any way shape or form? No way! They are just Bates in disguise but rephrase things differently such as with bates he referred to Leeds as a long drawn out love affair whereas gfh state no quick fix. Same thing if you ask me.

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Well Done GFH you have turned us into a joke. What decent players are going to want to join a club with no money and no ambition? MOT

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The only joke about this club is you moaning so called supporters

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29 Jun 2013 09:05:11
How the hell can you put MOT at the end of that!
How is that MOT?
We are where we are, so get a grip and support.
GFH may not be loaded, may not have bags of money to invest, but ended up getting the best manager we could have hoped for, so have some faith, and quit the negativity. Sick of this downside chit.

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28 Jun 2013 19:29:32
Morrison out and Noel Hunt In. wow I'm getting excited already.

Bates sold the club not for the good of Leeds United FC but for his own financial gain and because it suited him. we are in as bad a situation as we have been for ages, no money and not able to attract the great players we once did. I feel for BMD, I think he's inherited a crock of rubbish from Warnock, been made false promises and we will continue to be a mediocre side with mediocre league positions. I wish I didn't feel this way but I fear it's the truth.

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No its not the truth its your opinion, we have the nucleus of a very good side, some excellent youngsters corming through, 2 or 3 good signings and we will be challenging for promotion, if we had Sunday league players i'd still be there to watch the boys, never mind who runs the club, or what Bates is doing, support the manager and team, instead of all the ddom and gloom sh=te.

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29 Jun 2013 09:09:05
P2 (not the bus!)

Bob on fella! Sick to death of the gloomsters.
We have a great manager again, and his judgement should be trusted, and the team / club "supported"!

Warsteiner white

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28 Jun 2013 19:47:48
Looking at Morison's body language and local talk it might be that he came to believe that Leeds wasn't for him. B McD would then be left with a decision. Should I off load?

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28 Jun 2013 19:41:36
Just sell Byram :' (

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28 Jun 2013 18:43:39
Take over going to happen soon. Within the month.

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Is it Kenneth Bates Enterprises by any chance?

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28 Jun 2013 18:38:28
Not been on here for over a while, been finishing of my degree which I did just over year ago so I have been looking for a job although, I have been a casual reader.

Leeds still having financial problems unfortunately so expect a few of the youngsters to step up. Leeds are desperate for winger and McDermott is keeping an eye on Lewis Walters. Walters has been playing up front for the under 18's but keep an eye out for him in the up coming friendly games especially since McDermott fancies him on the right due to his blistering pace.

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Cool story bro. Not enough dragons tho

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28 Jun 2013 18:35:26
Sorry to see Morrison go, think he'd have done ok this season if he was fit. Ah well, life goes on!

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Jesus, just seen the article in the YEP which said Morrison wer on 17 grand a week - I think I understand it a bit more now although would be surprised if Millwall pay him that now!

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The question is do we have £17K to spend on a player that will not score goals or create goals given the way BMD wants to play?

I think its the right decision, but what was wrong is to swap Becchio for an injured player, that we have loaned out for effectively £250k.

Now that just about sums up NW era at Leeds, I remember him saying that Morrison could become a club legend & that we've got the better end of the deal.

Now Becchio has hardly set the world alight but this is clearly not the best hand. I suppose our hope is that Morrison scores goals & increases his valuation so Leeds can get some kind of reasonable fee for him. That said the player would be entitled to his contract been paid up unless a deal can be struck there.

Terrible business all around, wonder what BMD could do with the £2m fee that we could/should have got for Becchio.!

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28 Jun 2013 18:09:42
So we exchanged Becchio for Morrison. who was injured when he joined us and a few months (and a few games) later he's out on a season long loan.

I would have preferred to have kept Becchio for last season even if he had left at the end of his contract, at least he would have scored a few goals for us.
Should have paid Becchio a few more ££

But now I just want young talented players but I believe it will be free transfers and loans again. the only hope is youth team players or someone with Cash unless I win the lottery tonight

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28 Jun 2013 17:53:36
Leeds have no money. in hope that I am wrong! "FACT!"

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28 Jun 2013 17:34:34
Johnfitzz16now. Is it just me or have GFH gone on a binge drinking session for the past 2 months They (well the manager) has even come out and said he can't do anything until he loans out or sells. I have never slated gfh for anything as of yet but come on Morrison was only brought last January and he's 29 and we now loaning him out for a season so he can come back when he's 30. Lol. Now I'm no genius but wich head sanctioned the sighning in the first place last year. even I know that's crap business. GFH ya got to get it together. Most fans are already turning there backs on ya. Just waiting for the news of byram to go off now well all know its going to happen by the way this is all FACT

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Morrison swap deal with Becchio was a very much NW arranged/managed transfer, he was at the front of it pushing it through.

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29 Jun 2013 09:17:46
Sammy will go nowhere this window. Maybe next year if we don't go up. And I'd rather have GFHC than bates. We know where we're at, and know we have nowt to spend, but we have a top bloke managing the team, and will be seeing good football next season, so just support!

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28 Jun 2013 17:33:19
It's on the OS Morrison has gone on a season long loan to Millwall - Sounds Grimm that we are only looking at loan or Free players coming in and are having to send players out that were not on the Out to finance wages.

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28 Jun 2013 17:20:03
Well that's Morrison gone! I know lots of guys including myself get pissed at all the negativity on here but come on its hard not to be, Steve goes on loan! And looking like we replace him with Noel Hunt is that seriously the best we can look at if it is we ain't got a hope in hell of getting back to the so called promised land. Ridsdale ruined this once great club for a generation not just a decade!

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No Bates just sold it to some skint no hopers look at hull pearson sold to a wealthy local firm and there back in the premiership, not ridsdale, Bates is the problem!

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Risdale, Kranser, John Mckenzie, Bates, GFH they have all been cancers on this great club,

But what is true is that the decision made by Ridsdale and his Plc set us on the path that we are still yet to recover from, without Ridsdale there would be none of what has followed.

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29 Jun 2013 09:25:23
OP - you're right. Rids dale has a lot to answer for, and should have been struck off the directors list for gross mismanagement. God knows how he's been allowed to continue in this game.

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28 Jun 2013 16:50:58
to DK28 - Mate you have your head screwed on correctly agree with every word. What in essence has happened we have got rid of one shyster, for a collective group of systers (A shyster is a slang word for someone who acts in an unscrupulous way, especially in the practice of law, politics or business). yes absolutely promotion to the prem will bring tens of millions in to the club. let's see what happens if MCD pulls it off. gfh prove the doubters wrong, (speculate to accumilate). if that's all you want from LUFC give MCD some real money, then go! MOT,

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28 Jun 2013 16:43:59
I'm sorry but I just see no sense in sending Morrison on loan to an enemy championship team. He's proven at this level, and who knows, this season he might have been motivated to play. If this was done in order to get Hunt then seriously I have no hopes for us next season. Hunt has never been a firm goalscorer, and the fact that we need to ship someone off just to afford the wages of a 30 year-old is even worse. He won't even cost anything. What a disgraceful position we're in. At least under Bates we actually bought SOME players. Now we're having to sell in order to buy.

Leeds Demon

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I would have liked to have seen Morrison get a chance this season if he was fit. I think he'd have got us the goals we need

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29 Jun 2013 09:29:32
Ffs

Show some faith in the manager and support the lads. Gloomsters go home!

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28 Jun 2013 16:40:29
Steve Morrison to Millwall on a season long loan?So Leeds swap Becchio (worth arguably £3 mill)for Morrison, we then give him to Millwall, then if rumours are correct we end up with Noel Hunt?You couldn't make it up! what's going on at Leeds?

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Idiocy and insanity is what's going on at Leeds. If Bmd walks, the club would be brought to its knees.

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28 Jun 2013 16:33:40
Just heard on local tv radio station that Sanchez Watt has gone to Colchester Utd!

What's that all about?

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Yeah I know, surely Colchester can do better!

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28 Jun 2013 16:21:46
Iv been reading the quotes on this site were buying him were buying Him, please pls leeds fans we have no money we have been told a pack ov lies 1s again it's just never ending, listen to this this is a fact,, we got more players in when ken bates was in charge with Grayson these persons in charge now can't even put 850000 for mat mills what a laughing stock we really are! leeds south

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29 Jun 2013 09:34:05
Get a grip! We have one of the best academies in the country, and Bmcd knows that and will build on it. Laughing stock? This is LUFC, and we're only a laughing stock because of so called "supporters" like you!

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28 Jun 2013 16:19:23
I think the morison loan makes no sense. Ye he's off the wage bill but what for, Noel hunt? F that, rather have morison than hunt. Anyway, can we recall morison whenever we want? If so I suppose its not that bad of a deal. And Why would a rich owner buy Forrest or Leicester over Leeds (who the biggest club in the division)
Makes absolutely no sense.

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No recall clause but he can't play against leeds

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One word " assets " we own nothing. no ground no training facilities naff all

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28 Jun 2013 16:09:47
look just because we moan at lack of investment and gfh obvious lack of funds does not mean we are doom and gloom or we shouldn't support the team. grow up kiddies.
if I spend prob 5k a year going to watch lufc then i'm entitled to an opinion.
most who post childish responses probably don't know where the ground is.
bmd is now looking at his false promises and like warnock and grayson is stuck now what to do.
so we let morrison go on loan with no call back.
we get in smith and prob hunt. we need a top striker still. ross and hunt like to play slightly wide and smith great sub type. its an out and out striker needed.
morrison has only gone to free up a wage, surely this tells us we are not going to spend anything without a sale or loaning out.
we are no better off are we. one day we will get told the truth at some stage. prepare for long season. shrew leeds

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29 Jun 2013 09:37:17
No. Prepare for a good season. Watch proper football, and support the club!

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28 Jun 2013 16:08:36
I trust BMD but Noel Hunt for Morison. What the ****! Hunt a decent player but 12 goals a season at best I think while Morison I was expecting 20-25 goals next season when fit. Maybe BMD is going to surprise us all by bringing in a top goalscorer but I doubt it somehow! Still looking forward to next season though. MOT

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28 Jun 2013 16:04:26
Ffs it just gets worse as each day passes. Yesterday we find out we've NO money and today we find out morrison goes out so we can bring in hunt. Well what a fxxxxxg joke. Gfh you are a total disgrace and you are killing are once great club. Do us all a massive favour and SELL.

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Who to? No one will ever buy a club with no assets. no ground no training facilities. crowds dropping week by week. who do you think wants that

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28 Jun 2013 15:49:28
Morison gone to millwall on loan. that's a really bad deal as they are not even paying all of his wages! Think with a pre season he would have been good. Oh well suppose we could always recall him if it all goes t*ts up

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28 Jun 2013 15:46:46
Morison- swapped for a player who was a top goalscorer in this division in Becchio. We valued Beccs at 2-3mill realistically. We get 200k plus the "legend" according to NW that is Morison. He isn't fit, we fall away from anywhere near the playoffs and goals dry up. We then promptly loan him out for a full season ( a player notionally worth at least 1-2m) and don't even get a fee! It appears that we are doing this to facilitate the arrival of the unprolific 30 year old Noel Hunt. So in effect we are swapping a goal scoring £3mill asset for an out of contract 30 year old with a poor goal scoring record. It is shambolic. We clearly have NO cash. GFH should be honest about the situation and their intentions. It's my view they have little regard for the football club, only profit. I don't believe they understand football. Crucially I don't think they know anything about football administration. Such poor decisions cost the club millions. The administration of the club is clearly inept and has been for a long time. It's one thing having little disposable cash and living within your means. It's another being incompetent. We have seen misplaced investment in stadia, mortgaging of season ticket cash in advance, poor contractual negotiations with players. Poor player scouting and recruitment. Awful public relations, lack of clarity and disclosure. In my view also poor commercial operations- though that to some degree relies upon on field success. Sean Harvey is clearly not an able football administrator, even if he is hamstrung by poor ownership and lack of funds. Look at the players we have sold. have we even achieved the best available deal for them as say a Daniel Levy character would? Look at the average and in some cases awful replacements? Why was NW allowed to make sure a controversial and inept decision to go for Morison if it were likely he was leaving in the summer? Look at the result!

I think it's clear we have very fundamental problems as a football club. The entire culture seems to be wrong. I attach no blame to B McD ( other than this questionable loan to bring in Hunt). If we are that strapped for cash that we are resorting to this I worry deeply about the season ahead. It is clear there will be no real investment. If we succeed it will be in spite of the current circumstances at the club, not because of them.

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28 Jun 2013 15:43:09
Morrison gone. didn't get opportunity to show us what he can do when fit and Hunt a poor replacement for Becchio. Clearly GFH haven't go a pot to P. ss in and promises made last season already broken. Feel sorry for McDermott and looks like his task next season is going to be to keep us in the Championship

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28 Jun 2013 15:18:14
I envy teams that have owners that care and support them.
At the end of the day we deserve what we get but dosent it buck you off when teams like. Fulham, qpr, reading, norwich, southampton, wigan, cardiff, west ham, swansea, crystal palace, hull, stoke, aston villa, wba, barnsley, bournemouth, sunderland, newcastle, etc etc etc have more bloody money than us. Just really gets on my tits. Thank fucious say. Good manager make many millions. Go all the rest.

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28 Jun 2013 15:05:05
Loaning Morison to Millwall dumb idea. Watch him bag 30 for them. We are persons.

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28 Jun 2013 14:55:45
Is there any truth in the rumour circulating that a transfer embargo is to be placed on LUFC. If true things have taken a turn for the worse.

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28 Jun 2013 13:48:17
I think that a club without ambition is one that cannot ask it's fans to continue to dig into their pockets for. As I say my loyalty will always be in Leeds 11 but I'm not been taken for a mug anymore!

great words from By Keith Ingham. and so true!

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28 Jun 2013 15:55:45
Well done fallen giant for morrison guess
Be a bit more optimistic in the future in general
Love to read a

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28 Jun 2013 13:41:18
Why do we consider loans for experienced players. We need money and if anyone wants one of our experienced and proven players at this level they should have to buy them

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28 Jun 2013 15:46:02
Morrison back at millwall on loan on their o/s. If this is to bring in hunt that's a major mistake!

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28 Jun 2013 13:20:26
byram to man city for around £5million and wabara. players such as tonge, pugh, drury to leave. morison in swap deal with trotter


likely squad next season

steele
wabara lees upston warnock
trotter
forrester rowe

murphy mccormack
smith

subs: kenny, mills, white, dawson, green, poleon, and hunt.

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If we had any money that would be a great team I'm not being negative I think we can still challenge next season but it could be free's and loans

RDLUFC

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28 Jun 2013 13:13:15
MARCHING ON TOGETHER?

We seem to be marching off on all different directions at the moment!

Let's get some optimism in on these forums!

I've played semi-pro football for years, the same bunch of "down-and-out's" can become "world beaters" with the right coaching and management! I agree that our squad probably isn't one of the greatest in the division, but I do thik it's better than Warnock allowed them to be, as evidenced by the points earned in BMD's few games in charge at the end of the season!

I'm looking forward to this season. I'm not bothered whether we get a marquee signing or have to put up with wheeling and dealing, because it'll be new ideas with a fresh new brand of football again. Whether it works or not is to be seen, but I am OPTIMISTIC that I will at least enjoy watching us this year!

MARCHING ON TOGETHER!

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28 Jun 2013 13:08:14
Im not sayin we have money, but I don't think there going to be shouting from the rooftops even if we did. So let's just see what happens, and hopefully we might get a few gems

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28 Jun 2013 13:01:15
tv reporting that Morison will be going to Millwall on a season long loan. I trust in BMcD but I don't get this move as we were led to believe that players would need to be sold to generate transfer funds. Surely enough funds for wages were generated when the deadwood were moved on i. e. Paul Rubbergloves (appreciate that this may not happen until 1st July). Losing a striker will only leave us with McCormack, Diouf, Varney, Smith, Poleon and probably Hunt. Not a strike force that will cause opposition to s**t their pants

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28 Jun 2013 12:18:58
Cant believe how much people are moaning on here about lack of money, how they should know everything from behind the scenes and everything else that is being moaned at.

Will support this club till the day I die whether we are rich or poor but I don't have the right to critisice how the clubs being run. If there is no money for players then so be it and we will live to fight another season under a great manager. We all need to accept that the club is run by certain owners who ever they are and they will run it there way no matter what people say. The one thing that will make the future more difficult is fans being negative all the time about every single thing.

If you all want to see the club be successful we need to join together and support the squad 100%. And march on together

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Rubbish. Running football club 2 way street. Fans will always speak and make their opinions known hence why we are all tuning in to this blog site. We've been lied to. We don't like it.

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Well said a true leeds fan support your club what ever as the song goes we've had our ups and downs.

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28 Jun 2013 12:18:15
Remember me? The guy who was slated for saying that were still skint! And loans, youths and freebies would be how the season would go. Investors pulling out because GFH are incapable and amateur. How I love being right.

Anyway, I've heard that there was another offer from a person wanting to buy the entire club from GFH and they declined. They gave the impression they're looking for others to invest in the club so that when promotion is eventually gained, GFH can make the most profit possible by a quick fire sale.

If we gain promotion anytime soon, I can see us really struggling due to transfer embargoes when GFH try sell, meaning we won't be able to strengthen due to lack of cash.

Safest place right now is where we are, we need to stay in the championship until GFH get bored and sell up.

DK28

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Boredom will only set in when fans stay away from ground. It did with Bates. These guys are a bunch of accountants. When the figures don't add up, they'll leave.

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28 Jun 2013 11:50:30
It's a discrase to say that we have to let Morison out on loan to millwall to get hunt in on a free. morison with a good preseason under him would do great for us maybe scoring 20+ goals for us next season. athleast bates could secure free players without any of this sh. t going on. I wish this gfh would sell up and fu. k off.

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Mcdermott knows what he is doing if he thinks hunt can do a better job than morison so be it.

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I totally agree with you mate well said.

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BMc wants people who want to be at LUFC. Morison sulked in his first ever interview as a Leeds player and clearly didn't want to be here. Well done Brian!

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How do you know he hasn't asked to leave, but Millwall can't afford a full transfer? loan fee and 100% wages will do fine by me.

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28 Jun 2013 11:42:53
Top and bottom of things. We are Leeds United

We may not be in the Premiership and we may not be in a position to go out and pay millions for players and offer big wages but we will always be LEEDS UNITED!

We have fantastic support from people in all countries, We have a fantastic stadium with first class training facilities, We have a top class manager who obviously cares about the fans after reading recent interviews.

We have a decent Championship squad with some good young players coming through into the first team this season, under the management of BMD I'm confident a few of them will follow in the likes of Byram and Lees.

OK we are constantly been fed lies from Ken Bates and now the new owners are starting to follow in his footsteps but we need to stick together and support our club as the players deserve to play in front of a full house and the manager deserves our support also.

To be honest there are few Championship clubs who are going out and throwing money about for the fun of it but using Leicester as an example. where has it got them? buying players for £5m (Matt Mills) and struglling to get a quarter of that price back when they offloaded him.

Have faith guys and things will work out OK, if we all start getting down about it and starting protests about getting people out the club it will only play on the minds of the players and results and performances will be the only thing which suffers.

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28 Jun 2013 10:33:06
Will everyone please be a little bit more positive - yeah GFH don't have any money but it's rare to have owners with bottomless pockets and besides, no one wants to go up with a team like QPR, we want a young hungry team which will continue to grow and develop not a team of mercanaries.

I know GFH haven't been great in terms of communicating with the fans but their an investment bank they never said we will have millions and millions to spend. I think if they don't back BMD at all then we can have a go.

I'm pretty sure we will get some investment down the road and maybe then we will get those 'marque signings' but for now its just wheeling and dealing for BMD.

I think GFH must have had a big investor in place at one point but the deal for whatever reason fell through. I do believe Ken Bates is still involved - and GFH are a front to some extent but they would only do that if it was beneficial to them so I don't agree their Bates's puppets.

DW88MOT

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28 Jun 2013 10:11:56
BM lied to, well at least he now joins us all, as we have had lies since 2006

If its true that GFH are propping up leeds atm, then they would be mad to start spending what they don't have. We have all seen the accounts of these jokers and its just amazing that anyone with any sense wouldn't buy a footy club with no money.

We are probably the only club to have owners who WONT invest.

They bought leeds to save their bank £20M for leeds break up the shares then flog off for a 20% profit then walk away

return is £24M that's 4 years worth of profit for them

Just upset that they lied, can cope with all the other stuff.

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We (the fans) have passion and a manager who wants to do well for the fans/ club and history.

f**k the money big mac is here to stay and players will want to play for the passion not the quick buck of leicester/ qpr. our youngsters will shine under the new manager

mot with big mac

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28 Jun 2013 09:20:40
I don't think many more players will be coming in who wants to play for a club with no money

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28 Jun 2013 14:33:49
Putting 2+2 together here but I really couldn't loan out Morrison to bring in wages for Noel hunt!

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28 Jun 2013 09:14:28
if gfh ha no money then why did they buy us. and instead of finding investors why don't they just sell us to someone who has something to invest

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28 Jun 2013 11:28:03
Im not talkin peter risdale but surely two banks could borrow 3 to four million at a reasonable rate. Let their new manager spend it on players and see how it goes. If they've appointed the right manager then a winning team, bigger crowds and maybe even promotion. I'm think i'm talkin about a measured one off gamble not going back to the well window after window,

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28 Jun 2013 08:40:11
I have said many times, GFH are a smoke screen for bates. Why would they take over the club and keep Bates, when he is the main reason fans are staying away.
I hate to say it but our club is still owned by Bates, how the club is been run still as bates wrote all over it.

We need some passion bringing back to the club and get a feel good factor back.

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I don't think people want us to go crazy mate but a dabble in the transfer market without having to sell players to buy others would be nice

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Our 'fans' are the problem now not Bates, they are constantly pessimistic. Last season and season before for example, fair play slate Bates all you want outside the ground but once you enter ER do you really think signing 'Bates out' all game helped the players?

Positivity breeds confidence which in turn breeds success, negativity breeds pressure which in turn breeds failure.

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28 Jun 2013 08:13:59
Getting a bit fed up with the GFH are skint brigade. They are a business. Football is a business (not a game anymore). GFH want to make the biggest profit that they can, with minimal costs, just like any other business. I for one am glad that we won't be going crazy like Wolves, Forest and Leicester. remember what happened in 2001? We gambled big time, and failed to get in the Champions League. That is why we are in this mess still. We nearly lost LUFC! Then look at the side that got us in the champions league. Academy products (Kelly, Woodgate, Harte, Kewell, Smith etc) with a few young lads we'd never heard of (Bowyer, Bakke etc) and a few experienced heads (Martyn, Radebe, Viduka). BMc could make us great again. It may take a couple of years but so what? It'll be better than the last decade!
Use your brains, if we need to sell Byram to fund three deals (ie Mills, Rowe, Forrester) then I'd go for it. Sam's got 2 years left on his contract so we could end up losing him for nothing if we don't go up this season. MOT

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All of our best recent accademy products have been sold off to keep the club afloat. This crowd saw what they thought was an opportunity to make a quick buck. it didint happen and now thyere floundering in the deep end. It looks like more will have be sold off to keep us from sinking altogether. Watch the attendances this season. this will tell you what the majority think of the way they run their "Business".

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You forgot pompey look where they are now. ridsdale crippled us with his borrowing we don't want that again. bates for once is quiet , what's his take on mcd, s comments after selling to gfh and saying they had the funds to take the club forward,

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Above poster, see your point on leicester, maybe wolves, but not forest. they have very rich owners now, but have not spent hardly any money and will only spend what they need, leicester thought they had golden ticket but failed
chucking money about.

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Simon cox cost forest 3 million guediora cost 2 million wish you wouldn't make out they haven't spent owt

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28 Jun 2013 06:23:48
Mcd saying byram not leaving and mcc in great shape so he prob not going. Good. Sell the journeymen for 200 ish each and get the money that way. Roll on july! Mcd also seems passionate about club and fans. Got a feeling if he geys through the first 2-3 years, could be the next great.

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28 Jun 2013 05:27:32
I want Shaun Harvey placed on the transfer list

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28 Jun 2013 03:09:15
Danny Pugh & David Norris to Sheffield Wednesday - £400k
Aidy White to Derby - £500k

That gives us £900k to spend on signings, whoopee!

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28 Jun 2013 03:01:33
Don't be too negative yet guys, give it until next week when master Bates isn't pulling the strings and GFH might surprise us. No one is going to invest money with that man. And personally, I hope we don't spend big money on ex premier league players and we can invest any funds into our great youth system. I would love to see our younger and more importantly proud players getting a real chance. The future's bright because we are white, MOT, Vinny.

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Great message, We have a really positive manager with some good ideas and I suspect, the ability to work well with whatever squad we start the season with. let's give him and the squad the chance they deserve and really support the team. Managers need to manage well, players need to player well and supporters need to do what it says on the tin and support! There is room for negativity if we are 10 games in with no points, but not now, weeks before kickoff!

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28 Jun 2013 01:58:54
Well like it or not - I will be at ER next season to shout the lads on.

Don't worry though - if it makes you all feel better you can all stay away, and protest. Because LUFC will survive with average gates of 10k NOT!

If you take a minute to check out the transfers so far on the tv website you will notice one word cropping up numerous times FREE. Zilch, Zero, Nada, Nothing, Nowt. And that is going to be the reality for most transfers this summer. FREEBIES.

like it or not Financial Fair Play is upon us where even a footy club has to run like a business, and alarmingly have a sustainable business plan heaven forbid.

We have a cracking manager, a well respected academy, and allegedly the ability to fill ER every week with 40k fans. So we are already in a better position than most clubs to survive under FFP.

So for me a simple decision is to be made - Do you hate the owners enough to stand by and watch the club you love continue to go downhill, or do you separate the two and support OUR club through Thick and Thin knowing that eventually we WILL get what we dream of.?

No Brainer for me! MOT

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Great post, I for one will also be at elland road this coming season.

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28 Jun 2013 01:25:30
if the next signing is not noel hunt I will wear a shirt in public

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Why is that odd, do you normally wear skirts?

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28 Jun 2013 00:35:57
First game of season could do a lot worse than organise protest with banners Bates Out! And Buy Back Elland Road and Thorpe Arch! GFH just brokers, smokescreen for Bates. Only sell to persons with financial clout to take club forward, huh? Liar Bates.

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Yea just what the team needs to help them in the first day of the season. That will help them make ER into a fortress as BMc wants. Are you for real?

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Well it really worked last time didn't it!

First game of the season, new manager with a team looking to perform and the supporters concentrate on the negatives. Great idea, not!

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Seems silly to go to a game just to cause a bad atmosphere which wouldn't help the team. You're entitled to your opinion & to protest but I personally feel once you get in the stands you are their as a supporter & should support the team! You could always save your protest for before or after the game & get behind the lads for the full 90 minutes.

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Bates will be gone by the start of next season, as of Monday he is gone he will just have a glorified title that gives him no rights or privileges are far as Leeds are concerned. I may however protest on the first day of the season saying 'Persons out' 'Fake fans out' 'Negative people out!'. Rant over.

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GFH is clearly NOT a smokescreen for Bates. The ownership of Leeds United is a mater of public record posted on the Bahrain stock exchange. He is NOT on the board of directors of GFH capital or their parent company. as from the 1st July he will NOT be on the board of directors of Leeds United.

Move on and support the team MOT

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GKLF, you are right but I think such actions would help the team long-term. The sooner a rich entity owns the club the sooner we can return to PL and the sooner we can avoid our better players being sold on cheap because that is what is on the cards. Only saving grace is manager is top drawer but a magician he ain't. Get real. GFH are bad news. Forget the money they don't have and the lies. Their most fundamental promise was to re-engage the fans. Care to name me their re-engagement activities to date?

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