Leeds Banter Archive July 26 2014

26 Jul 2014 21:13:05
Can only agree with other posters that we are so far short with the squad we have at the moment of doing well this season, I know expectations are low with MC stating we should be challenging more next season than this, and I know he has done a lot off the pitch already to put us on a more stable footing which was very much needed, and I do think given time he will sort out a lot of other big problems left by previous owners so this is not a moan about him more of a moan about one aspect of his overall work which is how we are conducting our transfers so the squad can be strengthened to improve on last season.

My main concern is how we seem to be only shopping at Series B level and have signed so far a mixture of reasonable journeymen and possibly to come some young exciting players who are on the fringes of Serial A. So far in pre season we have seen little of the new signings apart from Silvestrie who seems to be playing well, so we still don't know what quality the rest of the lads have. I really hope they add real value to the team, but the jury is still out until we see them in a competitive Championship game.

We seemed to have to have missed a lot of good players already, a number of good Premier league squad players have gone on loan to other championship clubs. It may have been that we were not interested in those that have moved, but I feel some of those would have strengthened us.

Vivana may be coming still or he may have decided that Leeds is not for him but I do feel not having a ' Name' as a boss does not help in attracting players and I am also unsure about his contacts in the game, and whether they are good enough to pick up a top premier league youngster. The only British players we seem to be linked with are players who are not going to improve our squad to where we need to be, Delfounso is an example of this again if the rumour is true.

We still need six players, firstly from our defensive displays so far we need two centre backs, there has been no creativity so we still need a playmaker and two wingers and of course a proven striker, the first game is not far away and the squad is really not much stronger than last yet we are supposed to have a 15 million transfer fund.

A whole week went past last week with no signings and no apparent imminent signings being made, I appreciate that we are not going to waste money anymore but you still need to pay reasonable transfer fees and wages to get players good enough to improve us on the pitch which really is the main thing for any club, doing well there sparks off everything us that a club needs to progress, I am just not sure we are shopping at the right level.

Great post which sums up how many of us feel

Its not rocket science unless we quickly bring in quality we are in for a relegation battle! Was at Chesterfield today very poor. MOT

26 Jul 2014 18:40:17
can only see lge 1 on the horizon, hope the next 4to 5 signings are any good, the best starting 11 for millwall today a joke

There is no doubt where we will be with the current squad. Keep hearing from Salerno that quality players want too much money, if they think that will change I fear they may be disappointed. If we had 15m for players why is Delfouneso the standard we are aiming at. All our targets from Italy are unknown to us so we can't gauge their quality and hope they are the hidden Pirlo. If our other targets were known in the UK we would have a good idea of the level we are aiming for

26 Jul 2014 17:18:01
Looks like Leeds either can't attract decent players or can't afford them. Serious lack of goals from the forwards too, let's see what MC does next!

26 Jul 2014 16:58:42
2-2

Only positives

* Silvestri looks good, Bianchi has a good pass and Berardi looks a good buy.


Other than that, we've a serious amount of work to do :(

Did Morison play bad, on twitter it says he received some abuse after being subbed.

Silvestri played well and had no chance with the goals. Bianchi wanted the ball not sure Murphy or White did. Berardi a good buy? I didn't see anything to determine one way or the other.
Morrison worked his ass off first half first half and spent more time helping Warnock out than attacking. He got loads of stick especially second half and then went to pieces, everything he tried went horribly wrong and when he had a good headed chance he tried to control it on his chest instead. Hock took him off to put him out of his misery but the derision and chanting of " you're too shut to play for Leeds " was something I will never condone and can't benefit the club in any way.

26 Jul 2014 14:04:41
Funny that all the decent looking player linked to Leeds fail to materialise - or should I rephrase that only the cheap ones go through - Viviani looked like a decent signing, someone who would make a difference.

I know that a lot of the deadwood has gone but there is more to go Hunt, Morrison etc, but those brought in don't look like they are going to set the world on fire and what's happening to the 5/6 players that we are bringing in and who's going to replace RMC?

Worried and concerned with KO weeks away!

26 Jul 2014 12:42:16
Wow. 5-6 new players coming in with a budget of 15m, now we're talking!

26 Jul 2014 16:40:53
Sooner the better, struggling again against Chesterfield .

26 Jul 2014 16:58:50
It has been suggested this includes wages so maybe not as good as it sounds.

26 Jul 2014 09:08:26
Going on the premise that if your good enough your old enough, I reckon we could do a lot worse than give Robbie McDaid an opportunity, he is certainly talented enough IMO.

Never stepped foot in league 2 mate yet alone championship. Could give him a game in the league cup against the lower league sides.

Id give him a go can't do any worse than poleon, hunt etc.

Sorry but we want promotion don't we? We need proven players with the addition of a few younger gems.

Sorry but I've got to disagree the reason being.
Hunt, kebe, etc were proven and have won this league in the past but have been garbage for us, where as RMc was NOT proven and had great season last year and made us a lot of money.

Dont know where this we want promotion stuff comes from. MC has stated it is not this year we are not ready he has a 2 yr plan not 1yr

Best he lowers the ticket prices then. £41 is shambolic

26 Jul 2014 21:33:47
Of course we want promotion as soon as but hopefully most of us are realistic enough to realise it will take time. It is highly doubtful it will be this season but until its mathematically impossible I will live in hope. Mas does seem to be going for unproven players which I don't have a problem with so long as they fight for the shirt and show some pride. I would rather a young team that grows together than what we have seen in recent years. Viviani presumably didn't want to play for the money on offer, again I have no issue with low wages/high bonuses in fact I am in complete agreement because it means you get a player who wants to play for the club not the money and I think more clubs should take this stance. I think McDaid may well replace the unlucky Walters in the first team squad. You don't need to be proven, you just need to make a difference when you get the nod. In terms of the Hock, I have the same reservations as everyone else but at least we know the change won't take long if it needs to be made. Has a coach ever been sacked based on pre-season results :-) I am sure Mas will set a precedent if he feels the need. I think as others do that Carbone is merely waiting in the wings. I think the main aims for this season are to improve on last, get the ground back and start to mould a team for the future not a five minute wonder and if this is what we achieve I will be satisfied that massive progress has been made.

Reply to andy mot. How can u say McCormack was unproven in the Championship? he's been playing there for last 6 or 7 years and scored plenty of goals. particulary when given a regular starting berth. OK last year he went bananas but has always beena threat. MOT.

Andy - Ross scored 23 goals for Cardiff in 2008/09 which made him joint second top scorer in the Championship so a bit harsh to say he wasn't a proven goal scorer

Lads if was spending GOOD money & signing a player that was proven I'd want better stats than RMcs

Rangers 2003-06 goals 2
Donny 2006 goals 5
Motherwell 2006-08 goals 17
Cardiff 2008-10 goals 29
Leeds 2010-14 goals 53

I actually thought his stats were better than that but to say he played in some poor leagues it's not brilliant.
I do agree we need some quality signings but I'd rather wait and get the right ones than waste our money as we have done in the past.

If by good money you mean 300k ( I believe that's what we paid for Ross ) then if we can find a couple more we should sign both!