Leeds Banter Archive July 26 2013

 

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26 Jul 2013 21:21:17
I have just witnessed probably the best news of Leeds United since our promotion a few seasons back. Mr. Ken Bates will have no more role within the club. This news just gets better and better!
-PJ

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26 Jul 2013 21:05:12
Ding Dong the witch is dead.

Bates finally gone, the new birth finally begins!

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Very interesting that there is no " we would like to thank ken bates for his contribution. " The statement is short which says a lot.
Is this what the new investors / sponsors wanted before the " big " announcement. we will see!
Well done GFH!
AltrinchamAndrew

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I am the OP, the longer Bates remained at Leeds, the worse the situation got. I might have had some thanks had he come in, got us up and running again and then sold out.

But to actually sell the best palyers we had and not re-invest the money in more players is the one reason we are where we are now.

How can you thank anybody for the worst years in your club's history?

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26 Jul 2013 21:04:16
David Haigh is havin a party,
without Ken Bates and Shaun Harvey!

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I also think GFH have and are continuing to do just fine, some peeps expect instant return to PL. Not going to happen, the Risdale's model of football implosion has been tried, tested, failed with disastrous outcome, and I for one do not want a repeat by GFH or anyone where LUFC is concerned.

Patience please.

Northumberland LUFC

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Love it. Happy days. They could extend Michael browns contract and I'd still be chuffed.

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"They could extend Michael browns contract and I'd still be chuffed. "

Now hold on mate - lol!

Didn't they already do that anyway though?

Perhaps we could sever all ties with Brown next, though.

. just a thought!

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Brown was our pit bull on the park when we needed one last season, and he always given 100%. Not his fault he's not box to box. And I definitely don't blame him for the contract he was given.

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26 Jul 2013 20:58:40
I must be the only fan impressed with GFH.
Not only have they bought us but in the short time they have been here they have;
Opened us up on Social Media ie twitter
Rid of the old board
Introduced new sponsors including , Strongbow an possibly Red Bull
Reduced ticket prices
Opened a Leeds city centre based store
Reintroduced Radio Leeds
Bought our first million pound player in years
Brought in BM a quality manager
Brought in Dom Matteo


We have 25 plus players and need to reduce the wage budget an fans are moaning. It is simply it's to high to maintain an we can bring in better players

I for one think they are doing a great job an deserve a lot of credit for making us more commercially attractive to sponsors

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26 Jul 2013 21:18:15
Don't count bringing in matteo as a plus! Former man of the people San siro Dom has crawled up their backsides just like lormier did with Bates!

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Tell me how has matteo crawled up there arse instead of being negative towards the club and dom why not start getting behind it with the rest of the moaners out there that are never happy

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Nope your not the only one I think they are too mate and I think in time there will be plenty more I just think there doing things slower that what fans wanted and because of bates they believe its going to be the same crap, I think getting rid of bates tonight will bring not just a couple but thousands more on board but I'm afraid to say there will always be a few that aren't happy still, I even read on FB the other day that a guy thinks BMC has lost the dressing room and can't motivate them (priceless) that's one of his biggest attributes. Like I say things willow forward but just slower than what people want so guys b patient. And mate I hope were not in a minority for long. Oh and as for the guy saying about Matteo arse kissing get a grip d

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They're trying to get legends involved, not pay them to spew lies ala Lorimer.

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I agree. We are heading in the right direction. As I said yesterday. Gfh are slowly doing what is nec to get us back to the top. Even if ut does take 2 or 3 years. They know what needs to be done. They are new to football so will make mustakes - warnock - but have learnt - mcd - and are taking lots if little steps in the right direction

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26 Jul 2013 20:46:08
Bye bye kb. Thanks for everything we did for you.

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26 Jul 2013 20:31:24
Not a rumour just OS fact. KEN BATES IS NO LONGER AFFILIATED WITH OUR FOOTBALL CLUB IN ANY WAY SENSE OR FORM. i'd like to know why the change of heart but all I can say is good riddance! Roll on the good times. MOT.

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26 Jul 2013 20:28:18
Ken bates has left all duties involving lufc

What's going on behind the scenes?

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26 Jul 2013 20:26:59
GFH doubters, apology required. Along with everyone who says "Bates still has his hands on the club"

A new start.

Macca72

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Up till tonight Bates DID still have the club in his hands.

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26 Jul 2013 20:26:12
Papa smurf has gone, now I feel optimistic

Ketlufc

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26 Jul 2013 20:25:35
YESSSSSS!! Papa smurf has left the building on OS

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26 Jul 2013 20:15:15
BATES IS OUT AT LAST LOLOLOLOL

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26 Jul 2013 20:06:48
Bye Bye Ken Bates :)

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26 Jul 2013 19:45:02
do any of the older lads and lasses remember peter haddock a true hero who always gave his all for our club in our promotion season of 1990. peter was a very average player really but under the guidance of sgt wilko and huge fanatical support that season something triggered inside him and he became an important player what seemed like over night. varneys hatrick reminded me that with the older players who come in for a lot of criticism could this season be a THEIR year and with huge support and a manager they respect they seize the day. if we get a good start and build up some early momentum and have huge fanatical crowds the penny could drop that they could achieve something that their grandchildren would be proud of and go to their graves having made one of the most famous clubs in the world a prem team again. look at the experience they have and if you look at all their careers this would be their biggest acheivment. come on lads and lasses let's cheer them on so they have the belief in themselves to seize the day for us. BELEIVE, WE ARE LEEDS.

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I remember Haddock, he was a credit to the club.

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Fish - marvellous goal he scoed for us in the late 80's against Hull? Or Shrewsbury? Got the only goal, a nervous venture forward bit by bit, he was more suprised than anyone that nobody could tackle him and he popped in the winner (I hope these are not false memories that my brain has tricked me into remembering!) They all gave everything for Leeds and were not household names: Jack Ashurst, David Rennie, Brendan Ormsby (give him a break!), Peter Haddock, Ian Baird, supersub Keith Edwards, Glynn Snodin, Bobby McDonald, Carl Shutt - the list is endless - when was the last time we felt like that about any of our players?
Right about Varney - after his appaling start, he's just kept going, as a supposed confidence player, to come out the other side of abuse and sarcasm and score a hat-trick; with the crowd making him a cult hero, I think he'll produce for us this year and score a lot more than McCormack will

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26 Jul 2013 19:09:24
Does anyone else think that McD is playing mind games again with his comments about not sure if there'll be anymore signings? He was saying similar things just before the Murphy signing.
MOT

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Lloyd sam wasnt given a fair chance. and alex bruce was crap

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'Lloyd sam wasnt given a fair chance. and alex bruce was crap'. think youve replied to the wrong post :/

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26 Jul 2013 18:36:41
Who thinks we should of kept Lloyd Sam and Alex Bruce

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26 Jul 2013 21:50:42
No one

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26 Jul 2013 23:17:09
Lloyd Sam was awful. Alex Bruce either had a stormer or a nightmare - didn't seem to do anything in between.

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26 Jul 2013 18:35:07
What do you all think about Savon Hines?could be a decent signing

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I think you should have more faith and support the team, being negative serves no purpose to the rest of us, it will only make you more resentful and bitter.

NORTHUMBERLAND LUFC :)

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26 Jul 2013 18:21:43
Alot of people are telling me to give GFH a chance, Bloody hell people! Its in the name. 'Investment Bank' they're only here to make money out of us, doing a ken bates. it shows because we have to go by a 1 in, 1 out basis. And if we are willing to let diouf go, he's worth 800k tops. Were going to have to be patient and see how this season goes. What does everyone else think?
-PJ

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He is on 12k a week though that's why they want rid

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26 Jul 2013 16:37:34
I feel GFH will sanction at least 2 more 'marquee' (Murphy level) players before the window shuts; the fact we have to get rid first is not to fund the new signings, but so GFH know they do not have to pay un-necessary wages next season. I believe both GFH and Brian thought players such as Pugh, Norris & Hall will have gone by now however they are League 1 players on Championship wages (Blame the guy who blames Tom Lees) so it's been harder than expected.
I know Brian has recently stated Hall has a part to play but I think that may just be in case we are unable to sell him, he may HAVE TO play a part next season and saying he isn't wanted will unsettle him.
TSS made a good point when saying why would BM buy Luke Murphy for £1m when we have more players in that position 'than most Champions League teams'. Brian must have been assured he can sign players in other more needed positions, but due to the lack of departures he is having to wait.

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CM was the most important position to fill. I think even warnock knew this but no one really came off. I think we haven't see the best of Austin yet, but the rest are just ok. Green, Norris, brown, tonge.

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26 Jul 2013 16:06:27
Brian mc says he has no idea weather he will have any more signings before August 3rd if this is true are team isn't strong enough to compete for the championship. FACT.

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Yes, it's true, we don't have a pot to piss in an no-one wants any of Neil Warnocks crap!

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Agree. shrew leeds

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26 Jul 2013 20:16:32
Bates no longer preident! Great news!

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It is very worrying, wonder what's going on though at elland road rumour going around ken bates has left (no longer club president) tv!

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That is NOT a fact that is just your opinion (FACT!)

We can do without persons like you (FACT)

BMD is going to be better for us than Warnock (not a fact YET)

End of message (FACT!)

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26 Jul 2013 15:52:25
Just thought i'd throw it out there to relieve the pressure and stress that is leeds
Can I be the first to say
Think the southerners are going to sweep the prem
Spurs
Chelsea
Arsenal
Man u
Man c

Champ. got to like
Wigan
Reading
Leeds
Leicester
Notts f
B something

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Wish I had those rose tinted specs at the moment we will on a par with Barnsley and Yoevil

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Actually, if you look at the likes of Brown then he IS a disgrace and I hope I never have to see him in a Leeds shirt again.

In the past only the best wore the shirt, but over the past few years we HAVE got players who only want the money, not the shirt and not the glory (sic).

There ARE people in every walk of life that do not deserve to be where they are, I have worked for myself for almost 30 years now and have been around long enough to back that statement up.

Football is different, I will admit, it's one of the only professions where a manager can get sacked (several times) and still get another job in football.

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I disagree Brown took a massive pay cut to stay at Leeds and whenever he is on the pitch he scares the hell out of the opposition. Every club has a player who will mix it and he is ours, get off his back.

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26 Jul 2013 15:03:00
People that come on the website slagging off Leeds Players, calling them Dross and trying to be funny like putting Pugh on E Bay make me sick, they are not Leeds supporters, these are professionals that are earning a living in one of the hardest most competitive industries that you can be in. If people think they are not good enough, that's up to them, but to slag them off is a disgrace, after all they are Leeds players and deserve our support. Its up to the manager who stays and who goes, not a pack of baying persons that have never played the game at a high level. Go and do one if all you can offer is insults and negativity to Leeds players. No wonder players think twice about coming here.

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Calm down love. It's called a sense of humour. Unfortunately for you they're not selling them on Ebay. It's light hearted Banter. Hence being posted I and the banter section. You think Push really cares? It's water off a ducks back. Checking is part and parcel of sport. No need to get all het up and embarrass yourself. Be cool.

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" these are professionals that are earning a living in one of the hardest most competitive industries that you can be in. "

Don't make me laugh, these people risk absolutely nothing, they do something they enjoy doing and they get paid thousands of pounds A WEEK!

Try picking up dead bodies or consoling their families, you might find out what the word 'hard' means?

Kicking a ball around a pitch? Piece of p*ss.

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If kicking a ball around is such a piece of piss, why aren't you doing it?

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26 Jul 2013 14:59:48
Goalkeeper - prevents opponents from scoring goals
Defender - protects the goalkeeper and feeds the midfield with the odd forage down field
Midfielder - helps the defence and creates goalscoring opportunity for themselves or strikers
Strikers - score goals
Dont get me wrong ross is an exciting player to watch and tries hard. All you living in the begining of 2 years ago are deluded. He is not a 15-20 a season player and if anybody wants to play $2m plus. Gimme the money. Love the bloke but striker he aint

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Gotta agree if we can get couple of million that's two more decent players Ross isn't prolific, needs to play off someone. Might as well play poleon or varney or whoever in that position

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Mccormack is still by miles our best st and if we sell then i'm afraid we will only go down. he scores when the team play as a team but players like austin just shoot that's the main problem obviously

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As much as I like Ross as a player I think you're pushing it at 2 million

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26 Jul 2013 14:45:41
People don't get it. We will not go up this season. However when Warnock's drosses contracts run out next year (if we can't unload this year) do you think Big Mac will be extending their contracts?

Errrrrr no.

It will be a year or two I think till we have a squad fit for a promotion push so be patient and realistic.

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26 Jul 2013 12:10:08
Regarding the strongbox investment, their guy I quoted as saying that one of the reasons for hem investing is that leeds united is one of the biggest sporting brands in the uk. Do you think this would be the case if red bull were about the rename the club?

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I don't even think a sponsor even has that power unless they are investing so much money that are literally going to start a reveloution in the same way manchester city have. In which case I would most probably say yes to their offer. If we said no I think we could turn in to sheffield Wednesday in the fact that they are completely forgotten about. We've got to move with the times if we are going to get back up there with the very best in the world.

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Can someone please translate for me. Thanks.

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Strongbow have not invested in the club, it's just going to be served in the bar! the £250k they have spent is on new bar equipment. not sponsorship.

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26 Jul 2013 12:09:40
dont want him to go but selling byram might be the only way we could get a decent amount of money to spend on players. also what are they talking about we will be back in prem in two years we are getting left behind by teams far smaller than us, why don't they just spend the money its worth it for the money you get for being promoted.

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They can't spend what they don't have.

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26 Jul 2013 12:05:53
this isn't about if we should sell ross, byram or lees.
its about do gfh want to take lufc back to the big time or not.
if we want to go up none of above should go. but then we prob need 2 or 3 mill max to get in what and who bmd needs.
if we strengthen no further then yes we will give people a good game. but forget promotion.
too many other clubs DO want to go up and are showing that.
surely gfh can get there hands on a few mill and reap the rewards after.
the only other way is to sell byram for as much as poss to get wingers, a cb and a striker.
for me jamie mackie would be a great buy for 1 to 1.5 mill.
for goodness sake even forest want to spend that.
do we want to go up or not?
show us gfh
shrew leeds

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Before people say I know mackie has now signed for forest.
Its deja vu all over again.
This seasons manager not knowing what's going on etc.
Thought limbo time had gone.
What is most disappointing at moment is if wedont start well then the persons will becalling for bmd to go next. Like with warnock, like with grayson.
We have to realise that the managers cannot get players they know would make a difference. no one to blame really. we are abig club in support only.
Gfh stretched themselves toget lufc. They are hoping for a miracle. They do happen occasionly. Shrew leeds

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26 Jul 2013 11:09:56
Danny Pugh, for sale on Ebay. Think the £1. 20 p&p is a bit steep though.

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Lol is he in the antique section.

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26 Jul 2013 10:56:40
Does anyone know how much tickets are for FC Nurnberg on Saturday.

Don't get chance to go much so I was hoping to take my lad.

Also do you just get tickets at the turnstile on entering the ground?

cheers {Ed013's Note - £12 an adult and I think £5 for a child but may be wrong on the child price. You can buy them on the day at the ticket office}

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Thanks Ed. {Ed013's Note - No worries}

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It's 6 pound for child

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26 Jul 2013 08:22:53
There is a rumour in the daily snail saying Brian in wielding the axe on diouf, McCormack, and white. Well first of all let me have my day on this if this is true then this can a
Only be good news ill explain why, I'm starting with diouf his attitude is not right for the club he's a billy big head and is also unfit noway is he gunna be ready for the start of the season he only has 45 mins in him any way at his best, plus he's on something like 12k a week, time to sell him i'm afraid maybe get around 300k for him, secondly Ross is a good player but no way is he a midfielder or a striker at championship level he performances are to inconsistent and also dosent score that many goals for us, for me poleon and varney are much better at that job, we could command a decent fee for McCormack as he is still relatively young I would ask around 1.5million mark for him off load him to Blackpool, now lastly it's the boy with the pace of an athletic sprinter but the football brain of a 4 year old, now we know a lot of clubs have shown interest in Aidy over the past few years so there for we could get a decent amount of money for him around 2 million I'd say mainly because he is that fast and still young enough to learn, but when will he learn how to play to the standards of premier leauge wingers is beyond me so time 2 sell. Overall a purse of over 3million to spend on other players is good value, we could add maybe 3 to 4 quality players to the club if we sell, Brian axe them now. mot

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I am sorry buy I can't agree with you there, McCormack is a capable striker at this level and proved it season before last when had a good run of games played in the right position, scored plenty! And Varney is not better and will not outscore Ross! I like poleon though, but still Ross is our best striker out of them all, poleon is unproven at this level as is Smith, and Hunt and Varney are not prolific goal scorers!

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Ha! You haven't got much idea have you matey? This is not a kids' game where you just play 'swapsies' and end up with a better set of players. I think the choice might come down to losing one of two players, Diouf or Ross Mc. They're both players who can change a game because of their experience and know-how - of course clubs would like that in their armoury. Brian would like them both in his. What it may boil down to is, you can only keep one of them if you want to bring another player in right now. That would be a no-brainer - keep McCormack. As for White, he's one of the few pacey players we have

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It's in the mail so it will be a load of b******s as for saying Dioufs attitude is not right that's b******s aswell he was no problem last season on or off the pitch

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Whoever wrote that article should be sacked. El hadji diouf brings quality, keeps possession of the ball and runs down play brilliantly. It was no coincidence when he wasnt in the squad we started conceding goals in the last few minutes. That ultimately was the reason why our promotion campaign was completely abbliterated.

Ross mccormack is worth at least 3 million and any less than that would be a terrible offer. He has the ability to score goals but he needs service. Without service he doesn't score as many goals but instead sets up goals and runs at the opposition then makes a clever pass. Him and diouf are the best players in the squad in terms of quality.
Aidy white is just fast but I do think he was given free reigns to run down the flanks he could be a good squad player. If he can constantly emulate the run he did against Everton than he could be an outstanding player. If he was sold I would not want him going to an English team just in case he does come good. Would rather him going to the spl. If that meant we could get a player of diouf or mccormack's quality ore even better

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Ross McCormack proved it season before last as I said hit and miss inconsistent so your wrong matey, Grayson used to leave him on the bench anyway he's not that good as for diouf, walking down the tunnel with bad attitudes when he was subbed, and turning up late for training not coming back fit, if I was the boss if send him packing on the next boat back to sen algal. i'm not an person I just want better players I'm not paying to watch this shower of s*** there crap face it we all know we are lacking in quality in depth.

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All three are linked to numerous championship sides, so why the hell are they not good enough for us. White is being courted by Blackpool and Derby (last year) both decent championship sides. Diouf would walk into any top half team and Ross Mc any top 6. The problem is noone has, managed to use them in their proper sence.

BMd has worked out how to utelise White (bearing in mind he is 1 of 2 wingers at the club)

ElHad, tyes attitude and a big head but I woild rather he play for us than against us and Ross Mc, is a goal scorer (proven a few seasons back) and very versatile which is why he has been watsed by the past manager.

We would not be able to replace these 3 players with better option inside of 3mil.

We need rid of the central mid players that are just seeing out their contracts not good players at our club.

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Are u seriously saying that there isn't a better player out there than McCormack for the same value and aidy white pmsl, I can think of a boat load and believe this is what we should do if u want any promotion chance at all this season, if it fails oh well red bull will invest but not this season but next so we can't lose, Brian **** what these kids say on here axe them. McCormack so talented even the legend ginger Scottish manager strachan dosent want him and he loves leeds.

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Sorry but if leeds sell mccormack then its far from good news. he's still one of our top 5 players and he would score more if we didn't have players like austin shooting all the time. 4 me our defence and gk r fine and our strikers r fine, its our poor midfield that needs a huge change, only mid i'd keep is green and norris as a sub. the rest r a joke, austin, brown, tonge, pugh, hall all need 2 go and diouf and white and drury and ashdown that's it. the rest are all good, i'd defiantly keep, byram, peltier, lees, pearce, green, mccormack, smith, hunt and warnock and kenny. its though others who will drag us down particularly austin, brown and white.

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MCCormack has had an on and off season which is why he hasn't been selected. there a numerous players who are "talented" but don't get selected nationally.

Why are you oblivious to the fact that we need to build a squad to sustain a push on the top. Last year we were 3 wins away from a playoff place (which probably equats to 3 goals post Becchio) and we have added to that this year so in a better off position.

And that boat load of players, please disclose because its obvious you think the manager (previously a scout let's not forget) has no idea what he is doing.

Hey, maybe you should apply for a job at Leeds. You are probably sitting in that boat with players, coaches and scouts who are better than the current crop there.

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We nearly got relegated last year lol this leauge is so tight. We need players that are better than what we have those 3 I mentioned will never be any good, mc cormack can't score against pre season s**** so, he then gets jealous of the other strikers scoring and pretends to limp off injured so brian dosent flog him, he looks like a r8 person injured my arse he's just gutted that poleon and varney and matt smith have knicked his place he sucks, diouf past it now and aidy whites a headless chicken I'm a season ticket holder I watch these mugs all the time those 3 are bad for leeds this season sell and replace with better,

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McCormack had injuries and played out of position last season hence not so many goals! If we start the season with what attackers we have now and they all play equal amount of games as a out and out striker I will bet my bottom dollar that he outscores the others! If we was to sell how much would we get for him and who would we replace him with who is equal value but better?

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26 Jul 2013 07:12:20
Todays is the mmost ridiculous daily mail article I have ever read
Ts {Ed013's Note - Agreed}

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Everyone has an opinion and the guy was only commenting on a newspaper article for gods sake.
He does have a point McCormack is up and down. Aidy White runs all over the place at speed and that's about it. Diouf great player. but causes us other problems.
On saying that I still feel we should keep them as they are better than anything else we got. Karl Lincs

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If we sell we them we could get better dint forget mcdermott was a scout before a manager give him money he can spot talent and work wonders with small budgets easily. mot by the way I love leeds and wouldn't say anything bad about them or to hurt them in anyway but the truth is the truth, these are the only players we can sell really, nobody wants any of our ageing dead wood. Build the team around kenny lees peltier warnock Austin byram murphy hunt poleon varney adding to this will be great. mot leeds fan true die hard

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26 Jul 2013 04:00:46
Jordan ibe anybody? On rumour site. Quick winger who scored in pre season friendlies which is more than one of our strikers did! Oh that's right, we are not playing him in the right position. Well if midfielders, wingers and some defenders score, why can't he?
I have a sneaking feeling that there is going to be lots happening in august. Red bull investment will mean we can take a loss on some of the dead wood and buy a few quality. Only need 3 in.
Gfh and mcd know what they are doing. I think their plan will slowly come together in the next few months. We are all impatient for success but for the first time in nearly a decade all the little steps are leading upwards rather than down.

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They are leading down. hunt is terrible who hardly scores, smith is a brick with no pace and murphy is unproven in this league and if your talking bout ross mccormack then you really dnt know anythin.

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I know pre season ge didn't do what he gets paid to do - score
I know last season he didn't do what ge got paid for - score
I know, way way back 2 years ago he started the season well and got a few and for half a season, did what he got paid for.
Im going to work tomorrow and telling my boss that i'm not going to achieve what he wants me to achieve but I still want him to pay. i'm sure he will be delighted to do it.

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Jordan Ibe played for Liverpool against our youth squad in the FA Youth Cup semi final. He was awesome. Tricky, strong and scored. Should have had a penalty too. He WAS however playing against 18 year olds. I'd love to see him at Leeds but I think he has a bigger future than at Elland Road unfortunately {Ed001's Note - Ibe is the youngest player ever to score in the Football League, he made his debut for Wycombe in 2011 at just 15. He made his full debut for Liverpool, last season, and got an assist. Potentially he looks better than Raheem Sterling. The problem is that he is only 17, unless they have changed the rules again, he is too young to go out on loan. He is an incredible talent though.}

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Lol r u serious? if mccormack is played as a midfielder then his job ain't to score, I think your find hunt or smith wouldn't score if played out of place. mccormack has been 1 of our best and in the past has proven if he is given a decent pass then he will score. if our midfield dnt supply decent balls which they dnt then you can't expect the st to score its about teamplay and our midfield knows nothing about teamplay apart from green. your find if we actually brought teamplayers to replace the rubbish like austin, brown and white then we would have no problem. and mccormack should still get paid even if he ain't done well as there hasn't been 1 game where he ain't gave 100% but can't say the same about austin or brown or white.

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26 Jul 2013 00:16:39
Alex Mowatt / chris Dawson should be given ago at the central role of middfielder
Dawson can great chance for teams
Mowatt good player can pass and could be brillant captin

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