Leeds Banter Archive November 25 2015

 

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25 Nov 2015 22:15:07
I can't see the logic in selling our best assets? If Cellino then wants to sell what is he selling? An average team with no potential, no brainer keep what we got and sell if he wants to with more selling power?

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26 Nov 2015 01:49:03
You are not thinking properly on this one. The more Cellino asset strips the more likely Parkin or rival bidders will agree to buy the club because the asking price will be less. Yes the club will be worth less than before the sales of our full backs and midfield but what does that matter to Cellino when it will all add up to the same money he'll receive anyway? In fact, such a strategy improves the likelihood of sale because the asking price goes down. Cellino wants out. He will slice it and dice it as he deems fit. Let him go.

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26 Nov 2015 11:42:32
Hi George, I agree with you on the fact if Mr Cellino sells a few assets the price of selling the club will go down, but do you really believe he wants to sell the club? If he did want to sell it would need to stay in the championship (for him to recoup his investment ) for starters and the way we are playing that is not a certainty . I also keep hearing about our great young players, well I think they are decent at best, with potential, these are the same young players who have been playing for the last few years that have been in a team flirting with relegation . Decent they maybe but I personally would prefer some decent, consistent older players, who in my opinion would be more consistent in getting results, these youngsters ain't going to get us in the top half of the table and will not be prepared to step down now they have played a few games so apart from Mowatt whom I consider the best out of the bunch, I hope Mr Cellino sells them and brings us a consistent team . As with most owners they will do what they think is best for there clubs, not what us fickle fans think they should . Is Sam Byram a better player than he was last season, the first half I must add, no in my opinion, is Lewis Cook playing any better than early last season? Mowatt is finding some form again . So I say sell the 1st 2 and get in some good steady Championship players and back Mr Cellino in whatever decisions he makes for his club, we are supporters, let's support and not alienate the hand that's feeding us at the moment .

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25 Nov 2015 21:53:11
Hope we put Warnock to the sword this weekend keep a clean sheet and nick one would make my day.

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25 Nov 2015 22:41:08
Yep that would be grit.

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25 Nov 2015 16:49:02
wotton 39 passes 20 good wotton 11 long balls one to player sam out and in under 21's joke.

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25 Nov 2015 17:26:58
Byram isn't good enough, that's why.

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25 Nov 2015 19:55:04
SG90, and Wotton is? Your having a laugh.

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26 Nov 2015 13:55:41
well said agm . sg90 crazy answer so wotton worth peanut sam 6m says it all.

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26 Nov 2015 14:28:06
£6m according to who? His agent maybe. Byram had one good season under Warnock and has done nothing since, got too big for his boots after that when he was being linked with Man City. If Wootton put in as many poor performances as Byram, fans would demanding he never plays again, yet they want Byram to start every game just because he's an academy product. We've conceded 1 goal in 3 games with Wootton, under Byram we conceded more in one game.

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26 Nov 2015 19:43:49
SG20, I see your point of view regarding Byram but Wooton is a crap player. I don't get what our recent head coaches see in him.

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25 Nov 2015 14:41:33
Always the case- hurl abuse at the owner and they in turn cash out and the club suffers. Its happened here before and at other clubs. As an aside I was very disappointed with our youngsters against Rotherham. Not just because of their poor performance but the possible reason. Supporting Redfearn rather than Evans and the club.

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25 Nov 2015 17:06:19
That could be an interesting point Hesslian and if true would be pretty poor of cook/Mowatt/Murphy but no-way we can know that really.

To be honest at home the only one who has done well on a regular basis this year (of the ones who would likely like Redders) is Taylor.

At home SB awful, Mowatt no real influence, Cook has never really controlled any of the games I have seen, tries but no better than average at home most of the time, Murphy just a waste of space as does nothing at all for the team. Kalvin Phillips seems out of fav so can't comment on him.

A good theory but not sure if I can believe that one as they seem to like SE on the whole. I just think they are not as good as we /they think they are at the moment.

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25 Nov 2015 18:55:24
That's the problem - no way of knowing. Collectively they have played much better against good opposition and it may just be a coincidence that they played so badly against a pretty poor outfit. Just plants the seeds of doubt. Pity really.

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25 Nov 2015 14:13:43
Absolutely spot on liverlass we will go nowhere until we adopt that policy.
But as I have mentioned before in previous posts, MC was full of bravado and giving it large about keeping the talented kids when he was happy, now that us supporters have dented his ego, and asked him to go he will look to sell as many as he can and hike the price of the club up to make a tidy profit before he toddles off back to Italy, hope I'm proved wrong but will be amazed if Byram and cook maybe even Mowatt don't get sold in January. It's going to get messy before it gets better people, who's coming to QPR? Mot.

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25 Nov 2015 17:36:52
No one has sold anyone? And this is football everybody has a price if you're being offered 10 million plus for unproven player what are you meant to do by unproven I mean in premiership terms.

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25 Nov 2015 19:59:27
I'll be there DJ, still no ticket, but live in hope.

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25 Nov 2015 22:31:00
AGM go on Thames Valley Whites FB some one on there was trying to sell one you'll have to be Quick mate, if you do meet ya in the dickens pub outside Paddington station from 12 midday mate, I'll be the Ricky Gervais lookalike with a handsome beard 😂.

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25 Nov 2015 13:08:48
Disappointed with all those who think selling our youngsters is the way forward and that the sale of these will be pumped back into the team. Dream on!
We should be building our team around these young prospects. What are we a conveyor belt for so called bigger clubs to succeed whilst we languish in the lower leagues? We as a club will never get promotion whilst having this philosophy. Rant over! MOT back to the promised land and with all our decent players intact.

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25 Nov 2015 13:35:58
Cook and Byram are certain sales but Mowatt may also be sold. We ought to pocket 22m for this but I can see it all going into the Italian's pocket. This is the consequence of hurling abuse at him. At least we get him to leave but it will cost us these 3 players. It may even cost us a 4th. I recall we have a rather good left back when fit.

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25 Nov 2015 16:41:03
I agree in principle Liverlass, but I cannot see a single reason why any of them would want to stay. I said before the season started, we would need to be looking like promotion possibles by Christmas to hang on to them. That simply hasn't happened. Of course I'd love to hang on to them, but I just can't see it. And that's probably as much them wanting to go as much as the club wanting to sell.

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25 Nov 2015 17:16:53
Speedyg, it would very arrogant for them to believe they might not be part of the reason we are in the position where we are. Yes we're not doing as well as we should be, but aren't Mowatt, Cook and Byram usually involved every week? There is a demand for Byram to play, yet last time, he was at fault for both of Blackburn's goals with poor defending. Mowatt and Cook don't have enough influence on midfield, bar the odd game. Yes I know young players have off games, but it isn't fair for them to blame the club and not look at their own performances. Do they really believe they will be PL superstars in a month and it is the club holding them back?

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25 Nov 2015 17:34:06
SG90
They will be on Premier League wages! And no prospect of earning that with us. Of course it's true they are part of the reason for our position. Not sure that will be uppermost in their thinking though.

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25 Nov 2015 21:19:22
People we are in 21st century football is business players are commodities fans are ticket sales it's not personal just business if you don't run club like business you end up like Leeds 2005 remember that time?

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25 Nov 2015 11:37:32
Agree, he will sell the players, asset strip the club and then sell to the highest bidder. He is not the one for Leeds, when the going gets tough real men stand up to be counted, his problems back in Italy mean he comes with too much baggage . A further period in the wilderness for us me thinks, The football league have had their way again!

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25 Nov 2015 10:39:11
Do not think we will sign anyone this window or january. Expect cook and byram to go, Cellino not bothered now so will recoup the money he has loaned us and sell to first one who matches his price he paid for club.

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25 Nov 2015 10:49:02
Maybe. And can't really blame him if he does.

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25 Nov 2015 17:51:24
I think he was the best thing for ages, worry is as long as we have GFH, and fan groups threatening a backlash if they are not owning shares and on the board, what kind of buyer will we get, not a good one imo.

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