Leeds Banter Archive January 25 2013

25 Jan 2013 23:12:29
Honestly is it just me who can't see a downside to bechio leaving?
-McCormack (who is a much better forward and can score just as many as bechio) will become first choice striker
-Bechio (who has served us well) will be able to advance in his career and secure some money for when he retires in a few seasons time
-The money from bechio can be used to strengthen our squad in the future (tht is if GFH don't follow in bates footsteps)
-At least he's been 100% honest and sayin he wants more money rather thn tryin to sugar coat it

I honestly see no bad in bechio leaving and wish him the best for the future he is for sure a leeds legend and will forever be remembered as one of our finest assets during our run in the lower leagues.

Fair comment, made good money from and got a good return over the last 5 years. Good luck to him and will be in our record book for a while now as 10th all time top goal scorer!

I always rated becchio and thought he was loving it at leeds but the fact of the matter is he was offered the highest he could earn in the championship and turned it down. If he was to go to the premiership, Who is going to pay him more than 20/25 grand ? Wigan ? Please.

Would rather have him stat tbh. The more players who can put the ball in the back of the net the better. I agreee that he's been a loyal servant to Leeds in the past and fair play to him at least he's been honest to himself and the fans. Plus the club will make a decent profit for him.
I have nothing but respect for the guy and wish him all the luck in the future.

26 Jan 2013 07:06:09
All that will probably happen is Warnock will sign a similar player to becchio and play hoof ball still but the difference is we won't score as many goals as becchio was doing.

Any prem team will offer him double 20k atleast as that's what most prem players are on so yh wigan will offer him 25k plus

25 Jan 2013 21:17:15
Chaplow rumours are false. Some saints fan from a forum decided to start them...

25 Jan 2013 20:45:09
Let all us Leeds fans ask ourselves 2 questions;
1. If you were among the decision makers in GFH when the 'purchase' was taking place would you have researched sufficiently about LUFC to discover that Papa was the most hated person in the history of the club. Answer. Yes and not much research would have been required.
2. If you invested £52M on 'Purchasing' the club is it likely that you would leave that same most hated person as Chairman and then as some kind of honorary patron. Answer NFW. and stands for no and the W for way. Sort out the F youself.

We are being taken for a ride here. The club's next set of accounts should make really interesting reading!!

25 Jan 2013 21:31:30
I think gfh will of done plenty of research before they bought the club.the only reason I can see bates been involved with the club now is that he's financially involved somehow maybe silent partner .i don't think it was a full takeover now .

Amazed by fantasy and conspiracy theories presented! Whith even a small amount of financial knowledge: hard to see how buy-out could benefit Bates if he actually still own the club through GFH! No facts suggests KB had previous ties to GFH, no facts suggests he's in any ownership position now! The reason for his chairman/president position probably is Bates demanded this as part of deal. If Bates really had influence in GFH, deal would not have taken so long, or been so complicated! Wake up, stay cool - and give new owners time needed! The january window never been right time to invest big money! If right players available, then ok! Otherwise, do your trade in summer!

26 Jan 2013 01:34:08
they kept it dragging out (takeover) because they had a full team to build. can you imagine them spending what was spent on a new team, if it had gone through sooner. they told us things were going to change, new dawn and all that. they really thought fans would be just happy to have new owners and would flock back. now that has gone tits up, they don't know what to do or say.
don't believe the crap anymore, this is why we have gone backwards!

i have been told that something big is going to happen right after the jan window closes. what it is I haven't a clue but have no reason not to believe my source and this was before becchio hand in.
lets hope he's right and things get better than this.
oap army!
mot4life

To the last post no one could find any trace of kb`s taxes either, So what's this got to do with him not been tied to gfh ?

25 Jan 2013 20:02:27
It's been a while since I posted on here and I would firstly like to say that I hope the Eds manage to keep the website running! I will be donating what I can when I get paid...now on to a more pressing matter...

All of the Leeds fans who are saying good riddance etc to Luciano Becchio have not paid serious attention to the effort that bloke has put in while at our great club...he has been an idol to thousands because of his efforts and goals over the years so instead of letting the board/manager letting him leave because they can't meet his demands why don't we, as true fans of Leeds United, and indeed Luciano Becchio, show him just how much he means to us an sing his name louder than we ever have before? Why don't we show him that his efforts will never be appreciated anywhere else in the world the way they will at Leeds United?? I, for one, will be making every effort to show my appreciation to Beccs on Sunday and every other match I manage to get to while he still plays for us!

Don't be fickle and turn against him! Be United and encourage him to stay, because this is where is home is, this is where he belongs!! MOT!!

Youngie!!

ANY Leeds fan that gives Becchio any grief seriously needs to hang their head in shame.the mans given everything for 5 years and should be cheered by everybody, MOT

Don't be ridiculous, i'm sick of saying thanks to all the 'super players ' that have served our once great club and pat them on the back as they walk out of the door with the money 'we' paid them over the years, if you don't want to play for us f**k off now and let us get on with our rebuilding.
i include beckford gradle johnson snodgrass etc.

Becchio has wanted to leave the club a few times says Eddie Gray and he knows what goes on more than any of the posters on here.
Becchio is not the loyal servant some of you people make him out to be. If he wants out get rid and hopefully take the hoofball with him.

25 Jan 2013 19:36:02
I need to put the record straight, i've seen people write Haribo, Hobo Hoboboo, Hibobo. It's Habibou! sigh, lol. Oh and I think he'll be a direct replacement for Becs. Ed, do you think they'll bring forward his signing to now rather than a pre-contract due to Becs situation, thoughts? MOT

Nick LS26 {Ed013's Note - I don't know the agreement, if it is a pre-contract for next season it is a strange move with the possibility of Neil leaving}

Cheers ed didn't think about it in that respect lol you got me thinking now haha

25 Jan 2013 19:21:49
i hope on sunday we chant becchio's name to the rafters.
1.as appreciation of the job he has done
2.as a kick up the backside to mr.warnock because beccs has shown some class while warnock and jones have handled this disgustingly
3.you never know he might still be here when window shuts and we have to back him.

How can putting in a transfer request be regarded as showing class? showing class would be honouring a contract!

25 Jan 2013 21:15:00
the point is Warnock not shown any class or jones.
Get in Atkins now !

No the statement was made that Becchio has shown class, he has decided that he does not want to honour a contract that is not showing class, if any one has acted disgustingly it is Becchio.

25 Jan 2013 18:52:11
come on fellas! what happened to the 'never say die' attitude or the 'marching on together.'
kenny - great keeper at all levels
byram - brightest prospect in championship
peltier, less - finally warnock likes a CB partneship and we have conceaded less goals
stephen warnock - crucial i'd say
ross barkley - good player at this level
austin - awesome, bringing the old days back
brown - need someone with experience to put there foot in
gradel (hopefully) - what can I say?
diouf - experienced t***
mcCormack - scores goals(proved it when he started other day)

And the point being ?

Well I think green for brown, and whitey needs a good go a lb no point getting in a loan signing to fill in goes against any youth policy. Gradel would be ridiculous signing so I am pretending it won't happen (which is probs true). Just want to see ambition and a long term strategy... We need direction!

25 Jan 2013 18:44:31
GFH have done one thing good so far for me and that is getting pugh, kisnorbo, rogers, connolly, gray of the books ( hopefully the ones loaned out stay out) MOT

25 Jan 2013 18:09:38
Becchio is replaceable with who? To get a player that as scored same amount ov goals this season would cost between 3/5mil and would you give a manager that sort ov money who isn't going to be here next year coz I no I wouldn't as the new manager mite not fit into there plans

Erm when given the chance mccormack is more thn capable for 20 goals a season

People forget how many RM scored last season with darren o'dea punting it 70 yards!

Erm we`re only half way through the season, He could double that but we`l never know now will we ?

25 Jan 2013 17:36:43
Can't make the game on sunday as were going on holiday tomorrow. Will have to watch it on tv, would be great if one of my fellow kop mates could staart this chant off for me...
Luciano, Lucianooooooooo..... Leeds won't pay more so he will go!
Goodbye and good luck for the future, sorry to see you leave and thanks for many happy memories.

Absolutely the dumbest chant i have ever heard or not ?

Luciano, Lucianooooooooo, so sick of Warnock, he`s decided to goooooooooo. MOT

Good job you're on holiday so you won't hear the laughter if that chant was started.

25 Jan 2013 17:35:09
LEEDS: With Bechio on the way out I'm getting excited. GFH will now have to fork out some serious dosh and land a striker of quality to match. Quick fix loans or temp solutions will simply illustrate that they are no better than KB. The ticket deals they have offered will mean nothing unless they now put up and deliver something of substance. Thank you Lucciano cus you have paved the way in finding out what GFH are and what they can do for us

Excited !? - the way the new owners have started we won't be replacing him and will probably have to make do. i'm really fed up at the moment - no investment again

Only be convinced when we actually get some players signed, the jury is still out for GFH.

25 Jan 2013 17:09:27
I'm a big Becchio fan but after a day to sit am ponder I've realised that he is replaceable, looking back he has scored plenty of goals..... However I can't remember him taking anyone one, skinning the defender, bringing people into play etc etc, yes if you put the ball into the box he will 7 times out if 10 get on the end of it, goal line scramble and he's likely to be there aswel, I believe becchio needs someone to do all the flair stuff an he will be in the end to prod it in, and it's worked, been great, loved him for it..... However if you rewind the clock and place another player in those positions with exactly the same balls into the box, then I believe another player could also score around the same amount, I believe a fit Somma or McCormack in the same position as becchio has been all season could and would, and could take on the odd defender, yes he's been fantastic, and loved him here, but can, and will be replaced.

That's just my view,

Ben

25 Jan 2013 19:30:30
how many free kicks has he earned that have ended in goals.ask beckford if he has had a better partner.
players like these don't grow on trees
i like Somma and McCormack but they scored goals when Snodgrass and beccs created chances, who do we have with that quality.

25 Jan 2013 16:19:46
Luciiianoooo Luciiianoooo cost less than berbatov and he wants moreee doughhh #MOT

GFH GFHHHHHH told us he wants more, they think we are slow.
How many players have been sold because they were to greedy. GFH are happy to tell us how much they offered to keep us quiet but any other transfer it's indisclosed.
Know wonder the rest of the league are laughing at us. We roll over like a dog for any little snack.
GFH= GO F+CKING HOME!!
mot4life

25 Jan 2013 16:03:43
I'm the same as poster at 15.03
Good points made.bring in
Hall. Poleon.& most importantly Dawson.
Comit to playing them for at least 5 games.
Brown got to be dropped altogether .
Diouf could play with Dawson as cm pair protected by
Green & Austin, even Norris or Tonge as a 5 man mid.
Good teams fill the middle and move as a unit to attack.
and defend. If we get some additions ,
Great but we've got a decent squad .
Beccs isn't good snuff anyway . Warnock ain't got a scoot and
Should never av been appointed
Give new owners some time and support
.theres plenty of money to be invested..
Would you be giving dee da Warnock
Your money. A bit of patience is required by all

He's the reason they payed for lufc. So if he was first choice and got f=ck all, what's the second choice going to get.
GFH= GO F+CKING HOME!!!
Soz lads but i'm sick of same record getting played. We need 2_3 players in 6 days and have not brought in 1 in 25 days. WOW!! Harvey must do 6 day stints.
mot4life

25 Jan 2013 14:59:00
Former Leeds legend. Lee bowyer. Free agent. Training with Stevenage. Could do worse than get him here. Always played his socks off for us and much better than brown. Scores goals too. Any thoughts ?
Bob. Wakefield

25 Jan 2013 15:18:39
Was quality. Probably not anymore

Here we go lets bring back another over the hill ex player, sure you don't want kewell, woodgate and the rest too be better off giving dawson a run in midfield.Look forward not back

Totally agree. I know most will say he is well past it, but they said that bobby Collins. Strachan. Giles. Where all past it when they joined us. The rest is history !

Has been, why not sign him up, sure he'd love to leave his wife and young kids all week to train at TA. What about, Peter Swan, cracking centre back and played up front too, free agent, lol.
At the moment it stinks, no accountability, integrity, honesty from anyone at the club - Warnock leaves in May 13. Lets re-build again next season, yep why not......just what is our strategy, Byram will go you watch. bates out

25 Jan 2013 14:01:13
wish people would stop wanting people that could not care less about our club to come back. becchio wants more money good luck to him, in a few years time will you all be wanting him back?

25 Jan 2013 13:16:15
sack warnock quick, i'm sure adkins would come to us instead of uddersfield, its an easy choice

25 Jan 2013 12:31:06
How fulls ya glass now neil? Mine was half full but now its broken-smashed into a pile of bits on the floor!

Calm down m8 6 days left yet

25 Jan 2013 11:25:22
The club are lying and nothing has changed since:

- Jermaine Beckford
- Bradley Johnson
- Kasper Schmeichel
- Max Gradel
- Jonny Howson
- Robert Snodgrass

All left the club.

Becchio is 29, and has one chance to make a name for himself and play at a higher standard (plus earn himself a few extra quid), he aren't going to do that at Leeds. The worrying thing is he loves the club and is isn't willing to stay.

Howson, Gradel, Snodgrass also loved the club and all left because they knew we weren't going anywhere.

GFH apparently had a list from Warnock when they announced the takeover in early December of players to go and get. So far we have brought in Ryan Hall, Michael Tonge (both of whom were on loan with us anyway and cheap), and Ross Barkley (short-term loan who we have no hope of signing permanently). Where are the quality ˜icing on the cake' signings we were promised? Do people not think that our players don't feel this same frustration?

Fact is “ Warnock and his assistant have been talking up and about Becchio all month, and I think are under orders from the club who want to sell him. I think he's a quality player who's consistently scored goals, and we're the same old ˜selling' club feeding those clubs that used to want to be us.

Same old fans turn on their 'heroes' as soon as they don't commit to the club and throw the 'don't want to play for the club and care about money, blah, blah, blah' rubbish around.

Truth is all of the players named above would probably have stayed had we demonstrated the right ambition to progress, and yes - that includes spending a bit of money.

No foresight to think if we only spent a few million this season we could be on for a £90m Premier League payday next season.

Same Talk, Different Owners (or are they)¦

They all say they love the club. I don't mind my job, but give me a few grand a month more and I'd be off like a shot. There isn't much loyalty in football. tend to keep their players for a while and that's because the same man has been in charge. Other than that money rules, not sentiment

No loyalty in football these days not just at leeds

The first post is nothing to do with a criticism of players or a lack of loyalty if read correctly.

I believe that the players mentioned are well within their rights to leave!

The frustration remains with club philosophy and a lack of ambition to progress. I fully support Becchio, and believe that he has given his all to the club. If I was him, I'd be doing the same thing.

He'll always cost less than Berbatov and score more goals!

25 Jan 2013 10:15:05
I think we all need to take a breath and take stock for a moment. Becchio leaving is not all bad, McCormack and Diouf are our best forward line, and we've produced our best football when these have played.

If we can get 3-4 million for Becchio and try and get in Dorrans (Loan to buy?), Boyd, a left back, and a right winger we will be in better shape. Give Hall an extended run in the team and see how he goes and bring Dawson into midfield now and protect him with Austin & Green.

Our football has been dire at times this season, so to be perfectly honest, if I was GFH, I would think twice before handing Warnock a sack of cash if he's not committed beyond the end of this year. If they are waiting to get another manager in before they start investing in players, then I'm behind that 100%, it's what I would do.

We all need to lay off GFH, they could potentially be the best thing to happen to our club in 20 years, give them some time to learn and work through the numbers, it's not fair to expect them to just start throwing money around off the bat.

I'd be reasonably happy with a team like this by the end of the window.

Kenny, Byram, Lees, Pearce, Warnock, Austin, Dawson, Green, Hall, McCormack, Diouf.

Start with this and if we can get a couple of bonus signings in (Habibou, Gradel, Barkley) then all the better.

Sense at Last!! Legend!

I like the sound of this. I do want hall to ehave an extended run. A few games he has come into he has played well and changed the tempo and he does well in the development sqaud. Yes there was the game where he was diabolical for 45 mins but if he got a run in the team he would adapt and settle in.

This club is a joke and I am sick of it, joining five others in my local in retiring from regularly following this club, I may go to the odd game from now on, but after 2o years I have had enough, do you really think that any money we recieve for becchio will be put straight back into the team? we are a champoinship club now with no ambition.

I agree with everything apart from Dawson, I just don't think he would be ready yet, are you just going off reports or I have never seen him play but its a lot to ask. Barkley will good there and can create chaces as we have already seen just give him time to settle he has been unlucky with the amount ouf cup games, chances are we can keep roll his contract over month by month. Just add an attacker winger/striker how has pace and can play a good ball, It would make all the differance.

First of all: at age 29 noone should blame Becchio for wanting to secure his years after football. He's been a lojal and wonderful player, and we should all wish him the best!
Second: his departure may well open up for a new and better attack (yes, I know he's scored 19 goals - but our overall attacking play has been awful). I agree McCormack/Diouf allready our best formation upfront, Lucianos goals in fact blocked this option most games.
Third: a very exiting week! If we do get three "icing of the cake"-players, we'll be better off even if Becchio leaves. If not, we should regard this season finished in terms of promotion, skip ALL incoming panic transfers, let in Mr Nigel Adkins, play our youth players, and let him have the rest of season as basis for long term development of a new exciting team playing attractive exciting football next season! We've learned from previous years that promotion must be gained in first positive flow - if not, star players will disappear quickly! To late for NW now, if not the coming days bring us gold an diamonds (at least more than grey stones!)

Its on tv transfer news that NW has ststed we don't need to sell Becchio in order to bring players in, be interesting to see how much is spent then.

OP here, nice to see other people with a bit of perspective. On the Dawson front I've seen him live once, but followed reports for a while (as well as hearing some words Howard Wilkinson had to say about him) and anyone who's scoring Hattricks out of centre midfield is worth getting some first team exposure. I agree he may not be 100% ready, but with Barkley around on loan and Tonge in the squad, I see no reason why he can't start getting 30-45 minutes a game to bed him in, Milner, Lennon, Woodgate, Smith - They all broke through around this time, look at Byram as a perfect example.

My gut feel says Warnock will probably walk at the end of the season, which means GFH are 110% correct not to give him cash to spend, of course they can't announce this and write the season off as everything will collapse (attendances, performances, motivation etc), so I feel for them, they really can't seem to win.

If NW is taking us forward into next season, you'll see some movement in this window and a lot more in the summer, my assessment of this season is average. We have a solid core of the squad which is capable of promotion, but we are missing 3-4 bits of true quality that will move us on. Incidentally, I don't count Becchio as anything more than a solid player.

Time to keep chins up and mouths closed, I feel the frustration as much as anyone, and I'm desperate for us to succeed, but the last thing we want is to make GFH question why they got involved at all with all the moaning.

Macca72

25 Jan 2013 09:34:26
When bates sold leeds he said it was important to find a buyer with funds available to take leeds on to the next stage.
He said that GFH certainly do(implying that it was an understatement)
We find ourselves now with no real action in this window apart from our top scorer wanting to leave, and a former loanee saying that leeds had money trouble.
Bit quick to judge GFH but the rumblings have been there since the exclusivity period momentarily ended in August.
I am getting the feeling bates 'sold us out ' no suprise there and GFH wanted the exclusivity of a English big football club but don't have a 'running costs' account.
We are becoming a joke or are still a joke depending how you stand, I just hope we don't do a Pompey!
White teeth

25 Jan 2013 08:09:54
With becchio surely leaving, steep up Mr Somma. Ross mac and Somma upfront together

25 Jan 2013 07:31:55
Becchio leaving is not a bad thing, maybe now we can start passing and holding on to the ball, we are actually a good passing team when we move and stop pumping the ball up. where does this guy think he is going to go, no premier team will take him, who is going to pay 30k plus a week for him they must be mad.
We only needs a couple more ball players and another ball playing forward and we will be there about's.
Apart from the odd game our worst performances this year is when we have Becchio losing the ball, NW has mentioned this on many occasions he know's that Becchio is too inconsistent and that is why he mentioned that he requires a striker months ago. OK you lot will say Becchio scores goals, yes but Somma and McCormack score goals, these two are better ball players and better for the team. Kevin Leeds 50 years

Spot on mate . Mot .

I agree. I like Becchio and I know he has scored lots of goals compared to others but the likes of Mccormack and Somma haven't played as much as Becchio. If Mccormack had played all the games and not been injured can anyone say for sure that he wouldn't have scored that many goals or more.

If he goes for a decent price I think it may benefit all parties involved.

25 Jan 2013 11:32:14
Its not a good thing either.i would rather he finished the season with us .

25 Jan 2013 01:27:49
I don't like warnock and I think his style of football is out of date and gets you nowhere in today's game
I also don't think it's right that becchio has been singled out for criticism the last couple of weeks
But
I have to be honest if we can get £3-4 million for him I want him to go if the money is spent on replacing him
Don't like the deadly silence from the owners either
David haigh was like a young Peter risdale during the takeover all over twitter loving been a celeb now we want to hear from him he's gone all quiet
Pay warnock off pointless having him if he is leaving and build for future with a young manager with big ideas
Russ

To right mate. Beccio not great but he does what he is paid for
Who else above player level can say they actually do what they get paid for?
How many clubs sold their top scorer this window?
Miserable being a leeds fan
Maybe the youngsters are right
Leeds are not a big club anymore

25 Jan 2013 01:08:46
Why do we end up with owners that have a poor bank we are going to end up in admin in. 2014 as they owe a loan