Leeds Banter Archive February 25 2014

 

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25 Feb 2014 23:23:48
All these people slating the football league, maybe just maybe they are acting in the best interests of Leeds utd football club, because if it's taking this long and Mr cellino still hasn't provided them with all relevant paperwork surely it casts doubt on his suitability and no matter how desperate we are the football league need to be right on this, and I for one applaud them for been so thorough, do you really want the wrong people in charge of our club just for takeover sake I don't, I would rather it take time and make sure this time it's right.

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I agree mostly with what your saying BUT I'd rather have a crook or ex-crook with bucket loads of cash (even if its short term) in charge of our club because I certainly don't like the alternative which would be gfh staying on again even in the short term, I dread to think if it doesn't go through how much money gfh will owe people from borrowing sums just to keep there head above water till they thought a takeover would come im

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25 Feb 2014 21:48:05
Boat story translated. So the guy argues with authorities. Sounds like a white to me!

According to the indictment the president of Cagliari would not pay 400 thousand euro of VAT for a sailboat purchased in the U.S. and taken to Italy. A penalty of one million and 165 thousand Euros in addition to the confiscation of the property. And 'the request for condemnation made by prosecutor Andrea Massidda against Cagliari Calcio president Massimo Cellino, accused of failing to pay taxes of EUR 400 000 for a sailboat purchased in the United States and brought to Italy. Before a judge of the Court, Sandra Lepore, the magistrate the prosecution has confirmed the charges collected by Customs of Cagliari and the soldiers of the Guardia di Finanza that had led to the seizure of the vessel. In 2010, then there was a check of the Guardia di Finanza vessel during the trip, a few days after the kidnapping. "The American company - said the prosecutor Massidda - was formed one month prior to circumvent the regulations. The story, then, the reconstructions are based, and also confirmed by the decision in tax matters." For this reason, the magistrate has applied for costs and the patron rossoblu. The full acquittal, however, was urged in a long and passionate harangue from defender John Cocco: according to his attorney, Cellino, as a manager and not representative of American society, could use the boat thanks to a contract signed and formalized. For the lawyer Coconut charges not proved fraudulent intent of his client, on the contrary, he complied with the rules in force between the United States and Italy. Cellino - argues the prosecutor's office - would have bought the sailboat in the U.S., leading then to Italy with a tourist permit, but no later regularize the position in front of the IRS. Lepore Now the judge will have to decide who is right and pronounce the judgment scheduled for March 18, at 9 am, at the opening of the hearing. Tuesday, February 25, 2014 13:11

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Heh! Italian Justice! study it! Some great cases!

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25 Feb 2014 18:49:31
The refusal of the FL to clear the takeover is beginning to look ominous for our beloved club - The words s**t and creak come to mind, it's not looking good if Cellinio fails - You do have to question the FL and their motives in trying to secure the future of Leeds

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This is a joke it must already be the longest TO in history. GFH have taken us backwards not forward and how come were in so much debt again? We deserve better than GFH MOT

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Bates was milking the club for as much as he could and yet the club still made a profit. Now we wre owned by bankers who are supposed to be good with money are making a big loss. Very strange. Get Cellino deal completed and things will look good again

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25 Feb 2014 21:50:56
Bates balanced books by selling a star player every transfer window

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Think about it this way, the longer it goes on the less they have on Cellino, as if they were going to fail him by now they would've.


Until that is March 18th. etc then who knows

However anyone know why the statement by the FL has been removed from their own website?

that alone is Very Odd!

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25 Feb 2014 17:53:09
Thanks for the update Football League.
Got a statement of my own.
UNFAIR DISCRIMINATION!
Think it's time GFH or Cellino started indicating that they were contemplating legal advice against the FL on the grounds of unfair discrimination.
Citing that the FL is fully aware of the current financial situation and is deliberately stalling the takeover in the hope that Cellino gets fed up with been messed around.
Effectively, abusing their authority and endangering the future of LUFC.
They should question whether EVERY other person who has passed the test provided as much info as has been requeste or are the FL been over stringent because it is Leeds.
The landmark 15 points deduction amongst other unfair rulings against LUFC is further indication of unfair discrimination by the FL.
Add to that, the fact that Shaun Harvey may be involved also creates a conflict of interest.
Think they would make a decision then.

Us against the world as per.

MOT

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Want to start legal action against governing obout the way the are investigating someone who is asking to be part of their league haha cumon people think before you talk this can't happen
as regards to the payment of bills, ghf is where this responsibility not cellino or the fl.
if you honestly think that our -15 was unjust your deluded, fan or no fan if I was in their position I would have made us star from the bottom. have a look at rangers

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I agree with every word you said. If I was chellino i'd pi## off now and not bother wasting my time and money

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Why don't Leeds united fans picket the football league to bring this into the public arena and force the league to come out and say what information they require. If Leeds fans want their club to survive a stance has to be taken now. The league should be more transparent such secrecy is not right in a democracy and just adds to suspicions that the club are being deAlt differently to other clubs. Should mr Harvey come out and confirm that he is not part of the vetting process.otherwise the league is leaving its self open with a former member investigating his old club.surely that is not allowed under fl rules? Or company law?

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Your absolutly right mate. I agree that legal advice should be taken and BOTH gfh and cellino should come out and tell the league to get a move on and stop trying to shaft leeds yet again

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Maybe the FL taking so much time because Shaun Harvey is aware of what financial skeletons are really in our cupboard from Bates - GFH deal?

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If fl refuse cellino, serious questions have got to be asked about how did gfh-c pass the same test
less than 12 months down the line and they have debts already if you include money owed to cellino & co of £20million
how the hell did they pass!!

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Sean Harvey. Look no further

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25 Feb 2014 17:05:40
Fl dnt knw how to run a company let alone them selfs it should nt be taking this long and gfh are just a bag crap they would nt knw how to run a football club even if someone showed them how to do it so we need them out nw

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I like how no one cares to mention that the fl have said twice now their still waiting on documentation. how is that their fault?
its up to cellino and ghf to sort what they need not the fl

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25 Feb 2014 16:54:32
Omg just heard that the takeover will
Happen this year thank god thought it was
Gonna be next year 2015 the football league
Don't half work quick congrats to them, cheers
FA thanks for getting your finger out not long now
Leeds fans

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25 Feb 2014 16:21:22
Just a thought-Football league to discuss March 13th, if they block this takeover we are due in court 4 days later with a winding up order from Andrew (I am no leeds supporter) Flowers, then no owners and no money from GFH = administration for the amount and minus 10 points, is this really a possibility?

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No its not, simple answer haha either the case will get settled in full or they'll just pay what is owed (few months payment or whatever)
absolutely no way would a court wind up the club for that and frankly I wish folk would stop fear mongering all over this site pretty annoying

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From what I read about the loan it is not due to be paid back until next year. What is the point of the case? We haven't passed the deadline yet. Flowers should put his toys back in his pram and drop the case

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25 Feb 2014 21:57:23
Think i'm right in saying if it does get to court they can force sale to farnan group! Not saying they will but have reliable information that legally they can. Surely most sensible idea would be to pay debt in full before winding up petition comes to court?

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25 Feb 2014 16:16:35
This takeover is becoming a joke now I think FL are delaying it to see Cellino walk away from it, does anyone else thinks its got Bates written all over this with his side kick Harvey in at the FL.

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25 Feb 2014 15:02:42
I'm worried about the winding up petition

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Holy S#it! Survivor said something that might actually be true lol.

Hey survivor. How come you always start new comments but never respond to them after wards especially since some of the people who actually believe you ask you geniune questions?

Why are you always so cryptic?
Why do you always post up insider info after various news sources on news now have posted the same story?
How did you exclusive meeting with Cellino go?
Why is he trusting you to buy him a house when we has publicly stated he is looking to rent?

Crnd

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Why did you do that Jeff? There are people on here who look to your posts, a brief unexplained statement like that is going to make a tense situation worse. Irrisponsible and totally negative in my humble opinion

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I'm just worried about ALL the constant bloody winding up.

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Survivor knows nothing

Hobnob10

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Survivor knows everything except how to scroll down on a browser/mobile app thus only posts as it's always at the top!

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SURVIVOR NEVER replies questions on his posts, i'm guessing he posts them and NEVER reads them again?

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25 Feb 2014 15:09:51
Sooo we no that the takeover won't even happen on the 13th march,, so when after day,, dats just great,, hate the fl

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25 Feb 2014 15:55:13
No we dont! Read the statement again Carefully

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25 Feb 2014 16:06:42
Fl dnt knw how to run a company let alone them selfs it should nt be taking this long and gfh are just a bag crap they would nt knw how to run a football club even if someone showed them how to do it so we need them out nw

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The statements says there will be an update on the TO unless the outstanding issues have been solved to FL satisfaction, so it could still happen before then

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25 Feb 2014 14:20:38
So the FL want more information from leeds and our saviour, also the possibility that more questions will arise from the info when submitted, take it from me we will get the ok from the FL when we are 16 points from the playoffs with only 5 games left, they are hell bent on scuppering the mighty leeds

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Well the team do a good job for us on that score!

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25 Feb 2014 14:01:39
Not a priority in my eyes but I have seen that Carayol from Boro has fallen out with his manager and was dropped from the Leeds game. This is the type of player who can beat a defender with pace and put in a decent cross, a definate improvement from Stewart and the lame gazelle that is Jimmy Kebe

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25 Feb 2014 13:18:08
C, mon Survivor, after all you have posted you can't just put up a little cryptic post like that. Give a really juicy morsel we can all salivate over for the next few days waiting.

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FL have made a statement why hasn't Survivor

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Survivor knows no more than you or I Ox, the only people who DO know are the FL and they won't say anything until it suits them

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25 Feb 2014 12:54:06
what the f is taking the f l so long its killing me not knowig

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25 Feb 2014 11:53:10
Where is Chris Farnell.
Was he refused entry at Middlesboro?
Bye Bye

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Sack that what about your meeting with Cellino weren't you playing estate agent yesterday?

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Who cares I doub boro wold have even done tis eniway what interest they have in him entering their ground ether way?

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25 Feb 2014 11:03:41
I like BMD and still think he should be given longer but his signings have been poor to average even though he has said he won't buy just for the sake of it. Think about it. He has practically brought in a whole new team. Butland, Zaliukas, Wooton, Ariyibi, Kebe, Murphy, Stewart, Smith and Hunt. How many of these have improved the team (not the squad) and how many can help us move forward and get promoted? definitely at least two bad 'buys' in that list and others debateable apart from Butland who has only played one game but looked top class. It does make me worry a bit when BMD says things like not buying for the sake of it and then look at the players he's brought into ER and we going to go all out attack from now on and then see the awful display of passing at Boro.Ive got nothing against the long ball now and again but lately its all pure head tennis and no passing moves whatsoever. I don't expect us the play like Barcelona but we must be playing the worst football in championship at the moment! Anyway rant finished and looking forward to QPR. MOT.

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25 Feb 2014 10:25:03
I see one article linking us with John Guidetti!

As per all my pre-season posts I really hope we can land him, I wanted him in before the season started but will take him now.

An absolute goal machine, surely going to be a class above the Championshipm he would be a great signing.

MOT

SussexLeeds

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I thought stoke got him ondeadline day on loan?

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25 Feb 2014 10:09:16
Patience my young Paduans, it is only a short matter of time I am sure, I mean Christians have been waiting 2000 years for the second coming, nearly as long as my ex wife! All the signs from Cellino are positive and I am sure we will hear soon enough, solidarity bruvvers! MOT

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25 Feb 2014 09:46:22
John Guidetti being rumored again. Having trouble at stoke and BMD is after a striker. Fits the bill

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25 Feb 2014 09:15:11
mm survivor, no monday takeover.
we can guess to.
cellino needs to rip it up and start again.
everything looks poor.
of all signings loan or permanent i'd only keep smith.the rest are dire.butland exception of course.
smith puts in effort but as for, murphy, zaluiskas, stewart, kebe, hunt, they have been plain awful.
i like bmd but also the football is horrible that we play.i feel sorry for sky viewers who painfully have to watch us last few weeks.time for a big change, big decisions and for gods sake get it right for once. shrew leeds

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Pre Shef Wednesday Zaliukas was outstanding! don't know if the whole drinking before the game rumour is true but I thimk he's been unfarely dropped.

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After his performance against Wednesday he shouldn't be allowed to play for us again. Not just bad, absolutely appalling.

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How can you say smith puts the effort in and hunt poor?

Hunt is poor but you can't knock his effort, he dopes twice as much work as smith.

Andy MOT

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25 Feb 2014 07:34:58
Come on Survivor/Jeff. what's going on with the T/O. Now's your big chance.

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25 Feb 2014 07:07:45
Why did we not go for Jordan Ibe? much better than cameron Stewart

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Spot on about Ibe, class youth player.

I hope BMcD has noticed we need a quality midfielder to link up play between defence and the forwards, Dorrans will do for me.
To play football we need to be able to keep the ball, more possession will surely create more scoring opportunities. Hoofing it up the pitch gives the ball back to opposition, keep it on the floor Brian - it's not rocket science.

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{Ed001's Note - Leeds were among a number of Championship (and lower) clubs to try and get Ibe. Liverpool chose Birmingham, out of the ones interested, because they were felt to offer a better environment to improve the player.}