Leeds Banter Archive August 23 2014

 

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23 Aug 2014 21:40:55
Slightly worried, I don't think hockaday will be in charge for our next game. BUT, who is going to come in and be able to sort out a vertualy new team of unknown Italians and still some old dead wood?
MC needs to relise we can't survive like this.?

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Squad is not that bad with the right guy have faith can see us in playoffs with right coach once settled. seen some good things from the players just not as a team just yet

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Agree, it just worries me who will come in and take it on?
We need a good coach, any ideas?

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I agree sqaud isn't bad, not promotion material yet but shouldn't be relegation material either. Worrying thins is which decent coach will want to come in and work as MCs puppet?

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Someone said there are probably more head coahces than managers which is a good point. I think and i'm confident in mc and he will get the right man this time. think it will be from abroad but his players haven't been that bad so his coach might not be either (not saying going up but not going down either) many people on continent will work this way, many in engalnd work with sporting director which kind of is what MC so might get a good english man who is happy to work with sporting director. I have always said I think MC hired hock as a joke, to make things bad in order for his man to make things better one MC has found feet. to sack hock three games in shows he never had no fiath and it was always some kind of plan so hope the plan works out what ever it shall be

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23 Aug 2014 20:59:58
Martin O'Neill anyone?

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Yea would do for me so would Tony pulis

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I agree with the 2 managers mentioned but there is one small problem. They won't work for 80,000 a year! Unless MC does a complete turnaround on wages?

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I would happly have martyn the guy who runs o'neils over hock. that said I would also rather have claire the barmaid, larry who sweeps up and disco stu the dj

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I would love to have Simon Grayson back

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23 Aug 2014 22:42:14
GIW. Totally agree with your choice! he is also an Irishman and could become a legend for Leeds! MOT

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23 Aug 2014 23:09:21
Paul Clement

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I would!

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Love grayson back, also someone said neil aspin who is a great call, hallifax are flying and looks like he could be in with a decent chance. a man on the up with potential and doing well the levels below not doing bad none league. I would give neil aspin time to make this work his c.v. suggests he deserves it

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who says he's on £80k per year >?

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{Ed013's Note - Cellino confirmed his wage in an interview}

ED
I know but that was basic + bonuses?

MC ain't daft he knew he wouldn't be giving many bonuses away lol

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{Ed013's Note - Spare change in his pocket for Cellino}

23 Aug 2014 21:18:12
I'm just happy to have a team to support and love because if Cellino hadn't of come in we wouldn't of had anything so stop moaning! I thought we win together and lose together it's not end of world we still have a team to support. MOT

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Very good post. I don't mind loseing but you must admit it is a bit hard supporting a joke which at the moment we are. shame as we have potnetial to be much better. also I would be less out of pocket if the team went bust. also if leeds started again a bit like wimbledon the football would be lower standard but would have more pride and passion

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BW mate, I enjoy your posts but this last one is a bit ridiculous pal! You can't start again because we are LEEDS UNITED!

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No I agree it was silly we can't start again just saying man u did and so did wimbledon afc. the fans still have a team to get behind who are effectivly the same team wimbledon are doing ok and the fans are still passionte. hope we never start again, glad for mc as he stopped that but the club and sprit does carry on. ask any wimbledon fan (if you get what I mean)

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I know what you mean BW. Actually met a Dons fan once, nice fella! MOT.

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Sorry corkwhite, had a few when I put both of them replys. What I mean was. as the words of our anthem. we going to stay with you forever or at least until the world stops going round. I am so glad mc stopped us going out of buisness. but if that day ever comes the fans will not let the club die we would start again probably by the old peacock and still be a team. might be none leauge for a while our most talented fans might even get a game but the club would always surviive MOT

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23 Aug 2014 20:59:12
Sacked in the morning, you're going to be sacked in the morning, Hock. Get out of the football club I love and don't come back. Your team selection and tactics go down about as well as 16 stone tart in back of mini.

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To be fair to Hock, who else could he have played in midfield? His hands are tied

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I once had a 15 stone tart in the back of a bwm. but that is another story. I sung sacked in the morning to the hock 15 minutes in against millwall and was told I was being unfair

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23 Aug 2014 21:53:45
My current girl is 23 stone Bermondsey and she moves better than Austin. Love Leeds and Leeds fans. Love our banter. Don't like Hock.

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Who else could he have played in midfield mmmm. Cook, Norris, Dawson, Benedicic, Byram, Thompson.

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Mine is 4''10 and played for qpr, fluham and palace (that is true) she is better in the air than wotton and better in front of goal than hunt. she was also more mobile than austin when nine months pregnant (well she move shaprish when waters broke)

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23 Aug 2014 22:24:58
Smitchell, there's a couple of guys called Cook and Dawson. Austin and Murphy have to go. Bianchi is good but needs time and better personnel around him. Tonge useful squad player but that's it.

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And I'm dating a 600lb gorilla.

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One of my ex's went down a lot better than Heskey, she was only 9 1/2 stones with blonde hair and the most perfect body you have ever seen.

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24 Aug 2014 00:33:15
We are Leeds!

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23 Aug 2014 20:48:50
Just been reading that whackaday was happy with the display today and in his warped mind he feels we are running teams off the park and passing them off the park he must be watching another team to us? I got a feeling Masivego has seen sense and is about to run him off the park. Let's hope he takes that clueless long necked clown junior Lewis with him back to non league football were he belongs. He said he's feeling the pressure now! Just as well your middle names pressure the Mr Hockaday.

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23 Aug 2014 19:31:35
Hockaday expected to be sacked already, am I the only one dumbfounded by his tactics? Last 2 games 180 minutes + of football and 1 shot on target. I expect the signings will work given time but our defence is shambolic, just what was his formation today given the 2 new additions, no wide men then takes Sharp off for Smith? Sloth could make a difference but no expectations this season estimate we will lose as many as we win and draw.

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If you thought we were going to get promotion this year more fool you!

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Don't think anyone expected promotion this year Andy but at this rate it will be relagation even you can't stick up for him after today.

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Why shoudlnt leeds be going for promotion. been in the championship a few years now, big playing squad even spent some money, decent younger players coming through. big crowd and shirt sales. are we wrong for thinking leeds should be looking to go back in the prem where we belong? Said it so many times but imgain if we had a good manger or coach. promotion would be very realistic. hope hock gets the right guy in soon whoever that may be as think our squad is far better than 3 poor losses, two wins one lucky and one a scrape through against a team looking like releigation fodder in two leagues below. maybe not champions league but think we should be ok to dream of competiting in this league

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Borneoboy mate, I didn't realise you said we would get promoted this year. More fool you! I totally agree with the rest of your post though! MOT.

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Martyn
Stick up for who?

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23 Aug 2014 19:20:41
Adam Pope of Radio Leeds and Phil Hay at YEP both reporting Cellino furious at todays result and Hocksday may not survive. DH post match interview on Radio Leeds was bizarre. Seemed to criticize type of players being brought in saying that we haven't enough proven Championship quality at club.

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What was his excuse at forest green his over priced players where not up to none league standard. also anyone else think he sounds exactly like orville the duck. I wish I could coach but I cant

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Orville - excellent - I needed something to make me laugh.

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24 Aug 2014 10:22:28
was at game yesterday,anyone who thought hock was a good appointment needs to give their head a massive shake.he be gone very soon,but dunno what anyone can do with no width and a useless midfield.

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23 Aug 2014 19:06:42
Gutted with todays result! No shots on target! Again!
Players off again! Over 30 players in squad and according to hockadoodle doo we are still needing quality?
Not good enough for sure but MC is the man with the cash and rock n hard place springs to mind.
We need stability, and I can't remember much in recent times.
Look on the ups getting beat in the championship is better than getting beat in league 1 and having cash to bring in new players is at LEAST interetesting. Lucky in the borough game but they did work hard and I thought deserved something.

I reckon given time they can make a good side out of us! In mc we trust 😂
MOT

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23 Aug 2014 18:58:02
Not a rumour, this is a definite, We are Rubbish!

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23 Aug 2014 18:57:57
I'm thinking Bermondsey is too angry to post?!

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ARRARARARAGGGGHHHHHHHHHH.
HOCK.too many insults. must kick something. this post really made me laugh am I that obvious? on the plus side hock has driven me to drink. any excuse. and I do think you are a better more rounded and honest fan in the hard times. and I loved it in leuage one, tought me that places like hereoford and cheltham exsisted. even the mrs wants hock out. think I am bad on here imagine what I am like to live with.

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23 Aug 2014 20:48:37
Bermondsey, can we sue Hock because he drove me to drink too? Could be a class law suit. I am already on my 11th babycham!

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I have had so much to drink I smell like an old mether. Sometimes I drink till my mrs looks as hot as when we met. tonight I shall drink until the hock looks like a proper coach and until his interviews sound intelligent or at the least not really clueless. think this might take some time and can see my stomach getting pumped. got 999 on redail just in case

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23 Aug 2014 21:55:11
Bermondsey, you are funny dude.

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This isn't funny this is my life. been drinking hard. just watched five hock interviews. started nodding along in agrrement, then gave a few verbal umm-humm's of appoval then after last one gave a round of appalus. hock is starting to sound like mouriono and look like kelly brooke, think it is time for bed. night all

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{Ed013's Note - Have a drink with me and raise a glass to Leeds Rhinos on their victory today}

Will do ed13 as i'm polite and any excuse to drink however i'm from south london so leeds winning in rugby doesn't bring much joy i'm afraid. still heres to the rhinos and didn't yorkshire win in cricket once? cheers anyway just in case

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{Ed013's Note - It baffles me how Rugby League hasn't made it down south}

Down south we are bit too soft for rugby. I use to box and was good got scouted playing rugby for school team and played for proper rugby team and had life kicked out of me never played again. its not about that! we prefer grayhound racing, drinking and dancing like pillocks in night clubs. That said I am in the new rugby world cup promo with charles dance. look out for me

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{Ed013's Note - You still have the gentleman's game mate, Union}

Yeah I think it was a rugby union world cup advert that i'm in (hard to tell as they both play with odd shaped balls, only football and boxing for me they take up far too much devotion for me to look at a 3rd sport, I don't speak to wife and child as it is. My daughter is 10 months old and only found out her name last week. until that point I thought she was a boy and kept calling her John after my fav player John lukic) went to twickenham and met all the world cup winners, big fellas but no skill like with football, more impressed when I met leeds team in dartford

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23 Aug 2014 18:55:42
Is it possible that MC employed a coach so he could get the players in he wanted personally and then after analysing the championship choose a manager to put above the hock. That way he gets his favourite players or investment youngsters in and then the manager who has no choice but to work with what we have as the transfer window shut.
Just a theory

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I always thought he brought in the wrong guy to find feet then sack him when things go wrong to bring in his right guy. bit of a eastenders plot I know but only way I could see any thinking behind hocks appointment

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Teeth, I thought precisely that when it happened

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The games played with recent transfers - calling bluff. Yes it's the mark of a good businessman and that's what MC essentially is. I don't like posts saying pocketing RM cash- no way he done that. Worth £800m, RM cash peanuts. I feel sure he doing the right thing but getting used to our league.

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If people like or hate MC (i personally like him) you have to look at record at claiagira. he is a football man, he is loyal to clubs and his own ego makes him do well, he will not accpet less. leeds will make money by going up, so if MC is in it for money, ego or football he will want the same thing, leeds going up and doing well and I think that is what mc will achieve in the next few years at leeds. I honestly think we will be there or there abouts over the nexy few seasons. for whatever reasons I think you have to beileve in MC

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23 Aug 2014 18:52:44
If Hockaday is still here come the end of Agust then I will have to question Celino's motives?

He hasn't got a clue.

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23 Aug 2014 18:47:32
Hockaday is about to be sacked this is not a rumour just an educated guess.

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23 Aug 2014 18:46:19
hello all. guess who.bermondsey white, while some called me wrong, said I was perssermistic now might change stance. can I see into the future? am I a genuis or a footballing orical? no I just know a little about football and can see the obvious. Hock's appointment was a joke, no one knew him for a reason and when looking him up his record made very poor reading, up and coming nom old and failed. He didn't need time, he needed more skills, knowledge and a better rep to command respect. Every word of every interview has made he look like a fool out of his depth. 8 minutes into Millwall game was all it took and it seems to be a pattern. not 8 games, not 8 days not even 8 hours. Hock out I saw it striaght away because it was clear to see. Please Yorkshire men down my way have a rep for being strong stern men who don't take no c@@P so stand up for your club demand him out. cheering on hasn't worked so put foot down. BOOO, chant, throw eggs, hit him with a spoon, call him names, slap him with a wet fish, do whatever is needed to force him out please

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Looks like he's for the chop already according to Phil Hay, the trouble is as I see it, we need a manager with experience at least at championship level, but can't see the likes of Mackay, Pulis etc coming unless Cellino gives them more free reign, still think we have the makings of a very good side, especially if we get the players were after, an experienced manager would make all the difference, needs Cellino to chamge tack though before this happens,

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Agree and as much as I like MC I hope he changes tack however can't help but feel with things how they are we could still get a better coach, not the perfect answer but still someone with better knowlegde than who we have at the moment, someone who would teach defernders how to mark and have a gameplan, not a great game plan any plan will do

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Hock out so soon. he was never given a fair crack of the whip. I blame the fans didn't give him a chance

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I can't remember ANYBODY saying you was wrong, looking back over the posts most people agreed we didn't want the Hock mate but had to support our team until he's out ;)

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No no few have said he was a good coach, one even said leeds were dark horses, dark horses more like glue. few said he would come good and lots said he needed time, guy needs a miricle. best way to support this club is by bullying him out. I have likened it to when your daughter brings home a cr@p bloke you don't give him a chance you take him outside and explain if you see him again you will break his legs and bury him alive. tough love. gets more results, why great managers and chairman are never hippies. you want to save the world and hug trees give people a chance want to do well in football be ruthless. amaraovic wouldn't give hock a chance

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If a few said he was good a white coat and a straight jacket won't be too far away ;(

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23 Aug 2014 18:44:29
Phil Hey claims Hockaday will be sacked on back of todays result and won't be in for Bradford!

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It#s taken him this long? What a genius.

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23 Aug 2014 18:24:43
There is a rumour going around that hockaday has coaching badges. Personally I would believe we are signing messi more!

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"There is a rumour going around that hockaday has coaching badges."

Can you get them in the boy scouts then?

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No it was a dyslexic typo. it was meant to read. hock coaxes badgers

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23 Aug 2014 18:04:48
Bye Bye Hock.

Time for Neil Aspin to come home - look at Halifax - top of the conference 4 out of 4. Halifax are better than Leeds. sigh.

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23 Aug 2014 17:32:17
So now what's hock going to blame as he said they was a illness in camp what's the point taking sharp off putting cooper on then pol on?

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As a londoner I can confirm skirvy and black death are going round north london at the moment we might have a touch of that. if not mad cow desaise is rife

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23 Aug 2014 17:31:24
Let's try cairns, charlie Taylor, Dawson, Lewis cook, surely these young hungry players will give everything for the shirt.

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{Ed013's Note - Its not the keepers fault mate}

Probably so ed. I'm maybe a little emotional at moment. I think there's a horrible feeling about this season at moment

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No, let's just try getting a coach/manager who knows what the f**k he is doing.

How many more points do we have to give away so easily?

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23 Aug 2014 17:27:56
Zola, di matteo or Neil Lennon now because the cheap option isn't working in hockaday.he brings off sharp when we are 2-1 down and brings on cooper.to me it still feels like the same team as last season bar 2 or 3 new faces.i think murphy was a waste of money he's been with us over a year now and still hasn't proven himself as a good championchip midfielder as for Austin what can you say really.we still need 2 CM and 2 wingers possibally a striker.and after today's result adryan might not want to come to us now.were do we go from here?

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23 Aug 2014 17:24:32
The Hock is completely out of his depth and MC has been totally naïve with regards to the Championship and the transfers made.

You can't expect an inexperienced coach to be able to handle a job like this and coach a bunch a guys who have never played in this league.

I admit that most of the squad have, but the new players haven't and it shows. Two cards for our Italian defenders, and Byram.

No cover at RB, now all 3 out for the next game.

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I have supported Leeds for well over 40 years now, and could never believe how Hockaday came to be appointed.

The managers who have taken this team places have all had something to offer, unfortunately there are those, like the owners, who have sought to rip off what they can out of Leeds.

Time for drastic action maybe?

Hockaday has no place at Elland Road and is an insult to those great managers we have had that have lifted us in whatever way.

The only thing I can enjoy about the league positions tonight are Fulham being totally bottom with no points and us over 10 million richer for that.

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23 Aug 2014 17:39:59
Today's defeat wasn't Hockadays fault it was the poor discipline. However that said we wouldn't have poor discipline if we drafted in a coach with more of a personality and respect from the players. I wanted to give him time but fair enough the performances aren't good enough and I think he needs to go. That said I don't see that happening at the moment so I'll remain tight lipped and stop supporting hock but I'm not going to bash him either. We need a captain, some pace, some flair and some motivation because we are better than 21st place and we have more quality than lots of sides.

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"Today's defeat wasn't Hockadays fault it was the poor discipline."

Er, so who is in charge of team discipline then?

Get a grip, there is only one real problem here?

12 new players, three sent off in as many games?

Two Italians in, both sent off on their debut?

Hoackaday hasn't got a clue how to run this team.

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Urmm read what I said, poor discipline is down to the players but as I said if we didn't have hockaday maybe the players would be more disciplined. I've never said that hockaday was good just that we should support him until cellino sacks him, it appears that's about to happen so once he's gone I'll reflect on how bad he is

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"I've never said that hockaday was good just that we should support him until cellino sacks him"

No, we should support the team that have to play under him.

. they are obviously as frustrated as we are!

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23 Aug 2014 17:35:23
Hock is clearly out of his depth - Yes the players can't escape scrutiny and there is no excuse for the I'll discipline shown today, however they seem to be disorganised with no plan and certainly no creativity - It looks like MC thinks that the solution is just go and buy new players, which don't get me wrong is great, but he needs to accept in Hockerday he has made a mistake and act quickly to bring in a new Footballing Manager with some pedigree and then let him manager the footballing side of the business - if he wants Italian then Zola or DiMatteo are 2 that available - Please let something happen before it's to late, I really want to come on here and post positivity and on a regular basis :-(

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23 Aug 2014 17:17:46
Ok whilst stunningly "Lookoktheupside" may disagree! I'm sure BW, GIW etc would agree! Hockajoke has GOT TO GO!
We were a laughing stock when He got the job and He is proving everyone right! How many embarrassments do we have to suffer?
MOT (Excluding Hockajoke)

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For the record I think you're bang out of line hockaday needs more time the man is a footballing genieus and will get us out of the championship. not saying up but will get us out of championship

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23 Aug 2014 17:15:00
So, with 3 defeats from 4, and a very lucky 3 points if we're honest, maybe now I can express an opinion on here without being told I'm negative and a 'doom and gloom' merchant. I posted earlier that I'd kept out of this summer's Cellino love-fest because I was fed up of the ignorant responses I was getting. So here it is. The problem at Elland Road isn't so much Hockaday (though he is a problem), the real problem is Cellino. I forget who christened home 'Massivego' on here but I wish it had been me.

You can whine at me all you like that I'm wrong but here's why I'm right.

1) He has failed to understand or adapt to the football culture here. The continental policy of having an otherwise powerless head coach has never caught on in Britain and I doubt it ever will. One of the reasons that the likes of Wenger and Mourinho want to work here, other than the money, is that the top managers love that part of our culture. The want control of transfer policy because they want to build a team in their own image. That's why we've had such a successful domestic league. Until such time as Cellino accepts this we will not be getting a decent manager. I know many lost faith in McDermott but I felt he never stood a chance. How so many of you thought swapping a league winning manager for a Conference failure was a good thing is beyond me frankly.

2) The way he treats people is contemptuous and disgraceful. The way he treat the manager and all of that macho stuff with the players; cutting short their holidays and making them bring packed lunches. Great, you all said, show them who's boss. Cr@p. I'm an employer and one thing I've learned is that only the weak respect people who manage by intimating and bullying. Who wants weak employees? A football club needs 11 captains on the pitch and who is going to come and work for a club where the atmosphere is one of intimidation? Pathetic.

I could go on, and on, but I don't want to bore you all to death. I thought so little of Cellino that I didn't renew my season ticket this year and I attended my first game in 1970. That was a really tough decision, but I think it was the right one.

Hockaday has to go but if Cellino is going to carry on buying bargain basement Italians whilst pocketing the McCormack cash then it won't make much difference. I just hope I'm wrong and that Cellino can learn, and learn quickly from his catastrophic mistakes.

Get a proper MANAGER in Mr. Cellino. Give him control of transfer policy - it's called delegating - and start to show some respect for your fellow human beings instead of imposing your grotesque, oversized ego on all around you.

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23 Aug 2014 18:01:11
I think Massimo has done some very very good work at the club and has established a sound financial footing for the club to move forward again.

That said Massivego needs to accept he has made a Huge mistake in trying to impose the lapdog coaching system with the appointment of Hockerday (nice bloke but out of his depth) - AXEMAN is 100% correct it ain't ever going to work in the English game. Massivego can call him what he wants but we need a Team Manager with some Pedigree and one that Massimo can back off from and allow to do the job if he wants to realise the dream of Premier League football

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It is a bit like a sporting director many english managers don't get full say in transfers and it still kinda works. I like mc and his record would state he is good and gets results hockaday on the other hand. sure someone better would take job on current terms

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Totally agree, Cellino has done a good job in turning the financial side of the club around, especially if he buys back Elland Road into the deal. Anyone who can get over 10 million quid for a player who can't even get into the team at the bottom of the league with 'nil points' is a shrewd businessman.

But as far as English football is concerned, he is quite lacking, he really needs to work out that he cannot come to Leeds and keep sacking managers (or even just start!) because they don't agree with him?

Over the past years many (including myself) have threatened to boycott Elland Road, unless things improve quickly I can see Cellino as the person who WILL cause that to happen?

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I'll admit to being impressed with the McCormack deal but the fact that he wanted to leave in the first place is worrying. It's very clear Byram wants out too. ER is clearly a very unhappy place.

Yes, he's cut a few costs, and someone probably had to unless they were prepared to fund the losses, but at what cost to the team?

I said at the time that Hockaday's appointment was an insult to fans and I'm standing by that. I don't wish to pay money to be insulted so if he wants my custom back he has to do much better next time.

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23 Aug 2014 17:13:11
Not entirely sure what Grayson ever did wrong. We have gone backwards since he left

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{Ed013's Note - Grayson was a bright spark in what has been a poor few years at Leeds. He should have resigned though when things got bad with Bates, players being sold under him and transfer budget being pittance. At least then he could have held his head high and told his side of the story}

True ed, . I distinctly remember a very good bond between him and the players and it was a good, and we always looked like scoring goals. I am distraught seeing us like this at the moment

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Would welcome Grayson back here any time.

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Love grayson great at leeds one of our best ever managers will forever be underrated hope he comes back and think with money he would take us up. I want graysons babies he is that good

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Can't see Larry working for £80 grand a year, and who could blame him?

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23 Aug 2014 17:10:00
Bloody ashamed, get Hock out tonight he does not have the team. We were awful. Long trip home!!

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23 Aug 2014 17:07:56
I don't know what to say about that game, everything has already been said or will be very shortly. I will however say Hockaday has to go. I was willing to give him time but five awful games later - not to mention some of the shockers in pre-season - and it's clear, he is not the man for the job. Even his victories have been slight and undeserved. I don't think it's the player (well 60-70% of them anyway). He just doesn't have a tactical mind.

This could be one of the darkest seasons in a long time for us, but hopefully MC will take the initiative and make the necessary changes. Steve Clark, Malky Mackay (controversy or no controversy), Chris Hughton. These are only three of the names that were available when we appointed Hockaday. MC, if you ever read these sites, they're still available.

As for the sending-offs? Fine them, heavily. Both were unprofessional and, in Bellusci's case, disgusting behaviour for a debutant. Same goes for Berardi too.

Guess I did have something to say in the end. Got a bit carried away, sorry folks.

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Good names there. I think with what I think could be a bright youngish squad of players the right coach could at least save us this season. I honestly can't see us beating anyone this season at this rate. It's awful

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23 Aug 2014 17:40:32
The next coach will be foreign and it won't be long!

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I hope that's not true, Scoops. It'll just be another person who needs six months to adapt to English football, if they ever do.

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Not sure mr happy football is football good coaches and players always adapt quickly think the right guy would do a job where ever he comes from

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"The next coach will be foreign and it won't be long!"

Obviously not, 'Long' is an English name (lol!)?

Maybe Wong.?

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The Italian player are struggling now Bermondsey, though that cold be down to inept leadership. Cellino doesn't seemed to have grasped the differences either. I hope you're right though 'cos something needs changing.

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True it might be down to quality or might not be right. I always would prefer proven in this country of course but it is always hit and miss, look at torress great as a forgien import then rubbish as a proven prem player, paynter of course is another example (great arguments for both sides of the arguement and millions of exmaples for both) just think the right coach would help get pull the players in the right direction

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I agree. Most of these players are not as bad as they look under Hockaday. A good manager could come in and get us into mid-table at least. I just think it needs to be somebody who knows English football to make the turnaround that we need right now. Maybe Zola? He can help integrate the foreign players and speed up the adaptation process.

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23 Aug 2014 17:07:17
If Cellino persists with Hock till end of season I believe we will have scored more goals in one pre-season game (16) than in an entire season.

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If Cellino persists with Hock into September I would be surprised.

New manager next week, one down and counting.

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23 Aug 2014 16:57:36
Good job Berardi is available next game!

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23 Aug 2014 17:09:43
Lets hope Sloth, Benedicic and Adryan are as well

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23 Aug 2014 16:56:32
Defeat no shots on target Hock and Lewis out!

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{Ed013's Note - Maybe Festa is available ;-)

23 Aug 2014 17:05:41
Hockerday - Spell checks as Shocker Day
Neil Warnock - anagram Colin W****r

Maybe we need to spell and anagram check our next manager 😄😄

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Today confirms he's hasn't got the ability to manage in this league let
alone Leeds Utd.

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23 Aug 2014 16:56:17
It could be worse for RMC - He could still be at Leeds!

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23 Aug 2014 16:47:56
Ok Harte of Leeds, my mistake but still 2 defenders on debuts with straight reds - it could only happen to us.

And I bet IIIFFF we get Adryan he will not be match fit like benadicic because he's not involved at caglaiari - it'll be Christmas before we get a full bloody team out.

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Oh am not desputing that it's stupid and now byram for a fight? What happened? Don't think we have a right back for next game? Welcome back wooton in that position. Fantastic

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23 Aug 2014 16:33:51
Hock & Lewis to be fired very soon? My guess is once the transfer window closes they'll be gone. If its a coach Cellino wants, I think someone mentioned D Platt. Least he can speak the lingo but personally I'd go for Pulis or Curbishley. They know what they are doing and have mild mannered personas so should get along with MC.

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Pulis won't join a club unless he has control of transfer policy George, that's why he left a mid-table premiership club.

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As much as I would love Pulis or curbishley, it ain't going to happen. Cellinos attitude is completely deterring any respected coach coming in. Reall starting to doubt him as he's picked up around 5-6 mil of McCormack sale? Time will tell

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Pulis would never come. Ever. We'll just have to wait until Cellino does something, until then we'll have to try and support Hock sounds like today was going well until red. Cellino will know the right time to sack him, and he won't let anyone else influence him so we'll just have to wait and support the Hock until he's gone.

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It's time for Hockaday to go. The lack of disciplined showed today smacks of the squad not believing in him. We need to get rid before the international break and bring someone in who will be respected by the squad and has an idea of how to set up a team that can win a football game because Hockaday simply isn't good enough!

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To be fair red card shouldn't matter, we still had 4-4-1 which missing one striker shouldn't reall affect letting in 3 goals

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Curbs is a great recommendation Intergrity. At least he knows something about tactics and discipline. Pity Cellino won't relinquish some control.

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23 Aug 2014 16:30:32
Shame sounds like we were giving Watford a real go until Bellusci saw red. going to be a long season let's get some new signings in, a bit of pace and flair would be good

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23 Aug 2014 16:27:06
Beradi is Swiss.

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23 Aug 2014 16:21:40
FFs 2nd Italian defender with a straight red on his debut, what is it with us?

Game we were getting back into gone now!

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23 Aug 2014 16:41:14
Embarrassing again, there is no excuse not to play Cook and Dawson if we are going to get hammered anyway. Sharp taken off again, I know we needed to get another defender on but is Sharp really the best one to go off.

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23 Aug 2014 16:21:11
Is it customary for all Italian hard nut defenders to get sent off on their debuts? Thank you Bellusci.

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23 Aug 2014 15:31:50
Least next season in league 1, we may actually win a few more games. Possibly .?

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23 Aug 2014 15:28:14
Ffs this better change, sick of looking forward to the weekend to have it ruined every damn time! These midfielders better hurry up and sign and actually pass forward so our poacher can score

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I'm starting to even look forward to the weekends. It's all very well signing these players but it's the same old rubbish, and hardly any of signings are actually proven decent players to be honest.

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I know but still if you compare all of them to last seasons on paper we look a lot better, just don't get it. At least we got an equaliser hopefully we might go on to win it and il enjoy my bank holiday weekend!

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23 Aug 2014 15:27:47
Playing Watford, there's enough Italians out there! The wrong one has just scored!

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23 Aug 2014 15:25:29
Kamara was saying we are keeping ball well and keeping it away from Watford. 5 mins later Watford score with first shot on target. It's really going to be a long hard season yet again. All these new players yet the same sloppy defending and poor in creative mid field

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23 Aug 2014 15:21:16
Worst leeds team ever.
Rachubka, roque junior, o'dea, zaluikas, olembe, okon Stewart, Kebe, Seth johnson, showumni, hunt

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Can't argue with that haha

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No paynter or brolin?

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Well it's hard to choose between paynenter and brolin least they scored, hunt hasn't,, I don't think

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Todays 11.

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Not far wrong there Andy

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23 Aug 2014 15:05:12
Don't quite believe that Tongue, Austin and Murphy make up 3 of our sterile midfield again - What about COOK FFS (Bennidici can't make the bench because he's not match fit, just how unfit is he? )Also Cooper is dropped!

I really want to be optimistic but it's hard - hope I have to eat my words come 4:45 :-(

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Does the Hock even watch the game? If he does he has a blind spot for midfield.

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23 Aug 2014 16:49:26
Another dismal Saturday afternoon - I know it takes time and we are a work in progress but NO PROGRESS IS BEING MADE - it's all basically bulls##t I am with Bermondsey job to big for Hock - thanks for trying but not up to it :-(

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23 Aug 2014 14:21:47
http://leedsrumours.co.uk/formations/lookontheupside.php

Leeds team that I would like to see this year?

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23 Aug 2014 14:20:41
so nr Bernadicic againin team or on bench and Murphy Tonge and Austin all in again. let's hope we get Sloth and Adryan because playing these losers will get us nowhere.
Hope I am proved wrong and we muller Watford but I can't see it.

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23 Aug 2014 14:16:59
Austin, Murphy, Tonge in M/F AGAIN. WHY

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23 Aug 2014 14:59:32
I would rather see Cook and a half fit Benedicic, roll on Sloth and Adryan!

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23 Aug 2014 13:00:33
dunno why everyone is getting on hockadays back after 3 league games how many players have we signed do you think footballers settle into new surroundings quickly different countries have different cultures have of them have only basic english its a very difficult job to get them right and you're going to say that's what he is paid for that is correct but you have to give him a chance to succeed if in october were in the same situation fine then there is a choice that has to be made or if he has no backing in dressing room there is a choice to be made I can see us going on a run after christmas when players have had a chance to settle finishing optimistically play off place or about 12th realistically this is a season of rebuilding support whoever is at the club regardless of your opinion

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Getting on his back after three pretty poor games and 56 years of him being very bad at his job. what part of his track record don;t people get. Mourino, Pearson, Warnock, McDermot, Pulis all had/have a reason to be given a chance with hocks awful past and track record he has to deliever quickly his rep and c.v. doesn't buy him the luxurary of time in my book. he has to prove himself regardless of anything going on at club. He shouldn't of got the job on paper and in the eyes of many so sadly he has to prove us doubters wrong, nature of the job if not up to it he shouldn't of took it. results base buiness and as a manager/coach he has never got good results anywhere

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Yes it is results based business but if a club signs so many new players do you think like magic they all gel togethor and know how each other play instantly no they do not if come the start of october hock is still hit and miss il hold my hands up I don't know whether he will be a success or not at this club but what I am willing to do is support the man while he is here If football owners picked managers based on CVs football would never evolve that's the difference between your warnocks and your rodgers who only had a coaching background like hock failed at reading but was given a chance by swansea look at him now if you base everything on someones CV that CV started by an owner believing he could do the job even though he had no expierience leeds fans have no patience after the last two sets of owners screwing money out of club putting us near administration you're expecting a miracle to happen and to have within a short period of time major changes happen? answer they have happened you need to show a bit of patience and believe in the direction the club is trying to move towards as soon as cellino thinks hock cannot do the job he will be gone as his history at calgiari suggests until then give the man a chance

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Lookontheupside. Your not related to the Hock by any chance are you?
If not He must either owe you money or you have got some serious money bet on that loser lasting a miraculous 12 weeks!

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Haha gman no not related at all I just don't believe you can have an opinion that he needs to go after so few games when there has been so much upheval this season I don't know if he will fail miserably at leeds or if he will succeed i'm not gunna lie but as an irishman think dolan would have been my choice but hock is here shouldn't we at least give him a chance I don't know what most leeds fans are or were expecting the season to start but I said it to many leeds fans I know who were expecting us to start well because of signings made I told them until about mid october we will be middle of table or lower and then we will see whether this manager will work out and so far the players have come out in support of his methods all needs to happen is us fans support him for so long leeds fans have been divided about players managers etc football is so intresting as opinions differ but as a supporter of lufc we should support whatever players or staff employed by the club so them the same amount of respect as they show us and even more people in pre season being booed not helpful again shows a divided club it shameful

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23 Aug 2014 16:54:49
Lookontheupside is Hockerday
(By the way Hockerday spell checks as Shocker Day which is what we have just had 4-1 down and 2 of the back 4 sent off

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11 vs 11 was a good game but we deserved a good beaten after watford were all over us after penalty

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23 Aug 2014 12:36:47
just seen on leeds poll of the day 1 person has voted to hock being good enough to be long terms leeds coach . ok own up who voted yes. my guess is Andy or Mrs Hock surely no one yes would vote yes seriosuly. Hock didn't vote himself as he didn't understand the question

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Junior Lewis

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23 Aug 2014 14:23:09
Lol Bermondsey

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23 Aug 2014 11:03:56
Is it just me or is anyone else secretly hoping we get beat today so that MC can see the biggest change he needs to make is the manager, coach, call him whatever but we could buy Messi, Ronaldo, Bale, Neymar and the rest but unless we've got someone in charge who knows what they are doing we're going nowhere. Best it happens as soon as possible so hoping we get beat and by a big score as that will help speed things up. I know its an awful thing to say, I love our club but got to be cruel to be kind.

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Nope! .

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I can't stand the hock more than anyone. he is a joke but even I can't want our club to lose. I can see your logic but always want the fella's to win. sooner or later MC and everyone will see he has to go. Want him out tomorrow but still want us to win. That said I have got us to lose in my Accumulator today can't see us getting anything other than schooled today

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