Leeds Banter Archive September 20 2012

 

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Peltier back to centre half with Pearce...Byram right full back..Drury left full back. This seems a more balanced back four. Kissa never the same after his injury, his biggest asset used to be his pace, he's lost that now & he's not physically strong enough!

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20 Sep 2012 21:12:57
Aidy white is over rated, good pace but runs around like s headless chicken. Tom lees very prone to individual errors. Hope drury is fit for Saturday cos he's my first choice LB. I'd also try peltier at CB. And also Byram at RB

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Good call! I feel the old gard from last season still haven't shaken off the bad habits, that so often were a part of last season. looked alot better with Byram,peltier,pearce,drury or even lees playing as a Rb or LB. Then we could use Byram in a midfield role. Thats when you see the best of him.
T/O is killing everything that is good about are club. I think bothe sides need to start showing some respect to the long suffering fans. We live in hope.
mot4life

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To the second poster: Why are you replying to your own posts? It's so obvious!

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Your the one that always seems to take a dig at mot4life whats your problem he clearly hasnt replied to his own post funny how you never seem to of with a name leedsmad

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How is it obvious ?

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He didn't reply to his own post cos I wrote it u douche bag. J Clegg

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I am NOT the one who always takes a dig at MOT4life, in fact I've not actually been on here for ages now.....

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20 Sep 2012 20:41:54
I don't know if anybody else thinks this but from what i saw of sanchez payne in Pre season hes got to be in contention for a start on the left wing we lack pace badly and he is the man who can unlock defences similar to gradel to be fair anyone else think payne should be given a shot?

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20 sep 2012 18:56:42
come on lufc fans if u want the team to do well then they need ur full support , buy tickets then wen bates has the money he wants then he will f**k off and we will get new ownership

hate bates and not doing the above means tht u also hate leeds cos at the end of the day he is part of leeds .like it or lump it but wen bates goes then u wudnt be going new owners out cos they r not doing their job.
think if u worked and had to do a job with a d**k u cant say no not doing it,u have to do it or face the sack same with leeds u have to work together or we wont get anything and end up facin the axe cos we hav no support

so work together and do our bit and the club will do their bit (like the saying u look after the pennys (thts us)the pounds will look after them selves (thts nw,kb and all the rest ofnthe club))

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Then again you don't give your boss money, unless you exspected something in return.SIMPLES!
RMOTLIFE

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Yea but then he will get fed up saying "i hav the money now i will go" so really jus support the team ,nots forrest 2 morra come on and suppoert the team
we are the lads
MOT4LIFE

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20 Sep 2012 20:03:28
wake me up when september ends

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I thought it should be. Wake me up before you go,go.
RMOTLIFE

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Wake me up when Bates has gone, I may get interested again.....

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20 Sep 2012 19:51:26
This is the first time in a long time (if not ever) Warnock has expressed any optimism about the takeover. Drenthe, Kenwyne Jones, etc hopefully could be back on the cards.

On the other hand, we could be the victims of disappointment again. Lets hope not fellas MOT

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20 Sep 2012 19:50:37
There is only one reason why this geezer is willing to let Bates stay and only buy 50%,that's because he ain't got the funds to buy it all,do we really want some Arab with big ideas but no money to back it up,he will end up like Bates.

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When he's in he'll try force bates out .

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No cause the deal is he will buy the other 50% of his shares when he wants to retire this is just a ploy so he can get some power and start investing in the team before it goes tits up

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20 Sep 2012 19:27:29
Hopefully takeover finalised before Barnsley, imagine the atmosphere.

-MS

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15 thousand and dropping, with Bates still hanging on with his 50%.(Nothing will have changed, just the background)
RMOTLIFE

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15000 and dropping? we had 19000 midweek against hull... how you figure that one out

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21 Sep 2012 13:55:22
@RMOTLIFE: you were wrong with your 15,000 which was rightly pointed and your also wrong in saying bates will have his 50%.... He currently owns 72% so if these shares are brought and he still holds on to 50% he will own 36% which is nearer a third of the of the club as opposed to half!

Probably worth thinking of your argument before posting....

Scot MOT!

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20 Sep 2012 18:49:19
Don't mind this half and half deal being talked about so long as there is a long-stop date by which time Bates must sell. Don't want that codger hanging around when he turns 90. I say a provision in the deal giving him 4 more years maximum then he's on his bike.

Bates with half the power has to be attractive to Leeds fans.

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Bates with nothing to do with Leeds is even more attractive to the fans mate, we don't want ANY part of him....

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20 Sep 2012 17:31:16
Can all the negative people please give it a rest for 10 days, just watched the itv interview and im no mind reader but he looks like he is hinting somethingg. if it fails this time then rant all you like. we all know whats going on and our teams looking thin but moaning on this site will do nothing.

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I`ll try , but finding it hard not to cry!
"T"

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Buzzing! Bates is trying to stay longer(sad times)
RMOTLIFE

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20 Sep 2012 17:21:57
I missed tues game as in spain.but what I said on loads of posts weeks ago has happened.any injuries and we were doomed.we got them and I'm sorry to say we are doomed already.19000 for hull shows people are bored with takeover rubbish already and can see what any half brained fan can see and they are showing it.it wouldn't matter if it was fergie or wenger ,they would struggle the same.warnock is a good manager with some good players but he has been badly let down,so have we,yet again.by the time anything happens we will be miles behind in the table.we are now a small club with small minds but massive support.this is killing me as I'm leeds mad but its championship again next year. I mean even huddersfield look a better outfit than us.embarrassing and disgraceful.shrew leeds

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Stay in spain, we dont need whingers here

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Small club? size of a club goes on overall fanbase not just that turn up to games and their history so explain to me how exactly we are a small club you person.

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20 Sep 2012 16:38:03
please do not listen to any of the rubbish that comes out of duncan castles mouth he is a vey poor journalist clutching at straws at his poor chosen career

deakko7

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20 Sep 2012 16:24:15
Really,Really hope this isn't true about the Saudi pulling a and Bates goes for thisway and wanting to go halfs with Bates. If this happens things will not get any better for us. Ask yourself, who would want to be part owner with Bates. All he will do is show this guy how to rip us off and the club.
Bates hasn't put any of his own money in yet and refuses to put more of the clubs own money in. So this Saudi's going to come in and put his money in aswell as buying shares. While Bates sits back and puts nothing in. You would have to be mad to do that or totally dodgy like Bates is.
If this starts to come out as a fact and Bates goes for this. We really need to make a stand. If we don't get rid of Bates now, things will never get better for the club. We need fresh ideas and a new start. How are we going to get that with Bates passing on his dodgy dealings(NOT GOOD AT ALL!)
Who's to say Bates doesn't already know this Saudi and thinks, if we think that things are going to get better. The ground will start to fill up again, with false hope because thats all it would be.
Bates has to go for me. We don't need his bad vibes been passed on to the next person. I want to see someone come in with there own ideas and plans of how to run a club. Don't get me wrong, Bates knows how to run a club but hasn't got a clue how to engage the club and fans.
RANT OVER, JUST BATTERED MY HEAD WHEN I HEARD.
BATES OUT FOR GOOD AND NOT FOR HALF!!
mot4life

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He wouldnt be part owner as the new owner would own 50% and bates would own 20 something %

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Yea but wudnt tht make it 70% and isnt it out of 100% so ovo bates is going to own 50% unless the new owner(hoping) is going to own 51% and the he has control of the club
COME ON BATES OUT AND NOT 4 HALF
send this message to every1 u know.
hurry up and complete the paper work KB

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They will take the lot not 50% everything all this 50% talke is absolute rubbish if Bates stays he will have no say at all in the runing of Leeds United NON

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You just said it yourself bates knows how to run a club hes staying as a consultant as long as the other guy throws money into the club for wages and transfers thats fine with me

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20 Sep 2012 16:15:27
I know its frustrating not knowing what is going on, and the lack of any news always fuels absurd rumours, lets be honest does it really matter how long the takeover is going to take? we wont go down this season. we have been in the football wilderness for years, so really, what difference is a little bit longer going to make?

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Thats the way im trying to look at it, i have just told people to stop being negative myself lol but going down is a possability. feel bad saying it but our team is wafer thinnn. becchio out. we have to play andy gray

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Becchio out? our top scorer by a fair few already?

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20 Sep 2012 15:17:13
Reading reports that there is a second offer been tabled for Leeds united from one of the original bidders who walked away. He is supposed to want half of the original deal for half the money then rest payed when bates wants to step down .

Is this true? Or bates trying to force the deal through.

Gfh are in second place now to buy the club.

Source yep.

I think it's a load of old rubbish but warlock now saying money things looking up maybe money in 10 days.

Do either investment coming or buy out complete soon or yet more waiting and confusion.

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Much as I want to believe it I for one won't be getting too excited. The source for this story is a journalist thought to be very close to Bates.

Having said that I think this deal, if it exists, would better suit Bates's control freak tendencies and vanity but I worry that if he stays he'll just see this as more cash to develop Leeds Village and to fund the libel cases generated by his delightful programme notes...
ML

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How are GFH in 2nd place when they havent even made a bid they were just brokering it...

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20 Sep 2012 15:16:31
Well i don't think many of you will like what i have to say but here goes.
We need to remember only a few years ago that we very nearly went out of business, what we needed was stability and a good business man in charge, we got that with Bates, he knows the clubs means we can not go spending like we did, having said that we need investment that is fact, what is also fact is we know how Bates operates the club he will not allow us to go under, we do not know the new buyers. Bates is very clever and i agree with him, let the new owners buy 50% lets see what they are like, what they are commited to, and what real money do they have. It is too dangerous to go with anyone who we do not know. The foundation set by Bates is clear to see, just stay patient and i am convinced that together we will progress, we Leeds have waited 10 years, lets not spoil the future by underestimating what Bates as done. My last point is Bates is not going to release money until the takeover/investment is complete, that is simply common sense, NW knows what is around the corner he is not panicking. Bates to remain with 50% share thats what i say until we know that whoever these people are have Leeds in their future. Kevin 50 years
ps before you lot slag me off just think about Rangers, Pompy and every premership club who is operating in the red, oh i forgot all championship clubs last year operated in the red apart from the parachute clubs, it is fact. {Ed020's Note - good solid well thought out post, i agree whole heartidly}

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Thanks ed, hope evryone else agrees too. Kevin

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Well said that man!!! 1st bit of sense on here for a while
Wingy Mk MOT

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Bates wont allow us to go under. he already has british taxpayer lost 7 mil plus loads of small businesses that lost out how old are you it was only 5yrs ago

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Do we really want Bates passing on his wisdom, of how to sell the best players and pay the poorest wages. Plus what happens if they fall out because Bates isn't putting any of his own money in to the squad. We would be even more back then square one and back to running the club on a shoe string. We need fresh look, fresh ideas and everyone putting in the same.
We the fans who are the biggest revenue for the club. Find it impossible to work with Bates and all we ask is, whats going on with transfers. I see bad times if this was to happen. I do hope i'm wrong and Bates is wonderfull to work with.(IN A DREAM!)
RMOTLIFE

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20 Sep 2012 15:04:03
These are NWs words not mine,
Maybe some good news in 10 days or 2 weeks.
Itv news

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So come on lads and lasses buy them tickets for the everton game

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20 Sep 2012 13:32:40
If the takeover does not happen before the end of the month (to be able to bring some loan players in) Neil Warnock is going to walk. He believes that the vision he had when he took charge cannot be accomplished purely because of lack of funds and lack of backing from the board.

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Why post crap like this,NW has just been on local TV and believes theyre working hard behind the scenes to get the takeover completed,he seems pefectly happy with the situation and unlike loads of so called fans on here,totally unconcerned,so stop posting utter s-ite.

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Well said the person above, so sick of people on this site i know its rumour site and every has the own opinion and all tht but 90% of you are full of it

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20 Sep 2012 11:42:03
been laughing my head off since we lost to hull. i know its 2 in a row now but u cant expect anything less because instead of spurring the boys on fans decide to dedicate 90 minutes to ken bates. we know kb will sell up eventually and whose to say the ppl buying it will improve the club look a westham 3 owners in 5 years and still relegated twice. u need to back the boys as its more important. dont spend ur money to turn up and chant about kb its border line stupid and we dont need fans like this. go and support huddersfield sheff weds or barnsley if that the case.

getting on to the performance in the last week. it wasnt good enough but i believe leeds have a good squad good manager and with a few more signings it can be a good season


my opinion on new faces and posibilities. kenwyne jones. i dont think we need an eriel player becchio can jump and head a ball just as better then anyone.
beckford. put it like this if it hasnt happend by now it wont happen.
kewell, would be a good player to have back i watched him a season ago in ausie league and did well enough can easily play this level. stop hating cus he played in turkey get over it.

prediction for season play offs at the moment i believe this is realistic if bates sells by jan and we get some money we can push hard to get up the table

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We are skint if you hadnt noticed so that means no money for loan players we ant got 2 pennys to rub together

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Prediction for this season is play offs you must be kidding right carry on playing like we have been it will be bottom half at best

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I agreed with you until the Kewell part 'he played in turkey get over it' say for example that was 2 members of your family killed by fans of a club and then one of your club heroes who already f*cked the club over to go to liverpool for practically nothing to destroy all illusions of him being anything like a cult hero anymore then decided to go and play for that team? if it was YOUR family members would you still welcome him back with open arms? i doubt many fans would have welcomed him back after the way he left us but then that Galatasary move has well and truly made it impossible he will come back and be welcomed back.

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To the original poster, I have a feeling you are one of the following:
A: Walter Mitty
B: A person with too few friends or too much time on your hands
C: A wind up merchant
D: Someone who doesnt have a clue what they are talking about
E: Or all of the above.
There are so many things I disagree with what you said that I dont know where to start, but so as to keep it simple, I will start at the beginning:
Supporters: If you pay good money in to ER you are entitled to voice your opinion, whether you/players/kb approve. Unless you havent noticed their is massive frustration at what is going on with LUFC.The players & manager will come and go but hopefully LUFC will be here forever, at least until the world stops going round.

Good Squad: Its funny you should think this consider NW stated the other day that we dont, maybe you know something he doesnt and we should give you the job?
Kenwyne Jones: If your telling me we dont need a striker like him you must be living in cloud cookoo land, there is a reason clubs paid good money for him at some stage and to say we dont need him is a joke. How high can Luciano jump while he is lying on a treatment table

Kewell: If you were a Leeds supporter, which I seriously doubt, you would know that playing in turkey is not the issue, it was the team he chose to play for, the same one who's supporters stabbed to death 2 Leeds supporters. The fact that the money grabbing judas c**t also had Leeds over a barrel so he could join his "boyhood heroes" Liverpool, may have added to the reasons kewell will never play for Leeds again, whether he wants to or not.
Its rarely my blood boils from reading a post here, but it is boiling now, maybe that was your point all along.

AidanMOT

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Thanks AidenMOT, you saved me, and probably many others, going to the trouble of replying to this post. I think the answer is E...
ML

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^TOP POST Aidan, Thats what i like straight to the point of a totally stupid post. Theres not a chance that lad is LUFC, more like Scumfc. I would be shocked if someone thought we had a strong squad right now.
BATES OUT FULLY NOT FIFTY!!
mot4life

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If u think paying money means ur opinion counts at ER u must be having a laugh. They didn't listen to u then and they won't now as to posts saying I'm not a lufc fan. I'm lufc till the end I didn't stop supporting the club when in league one and I won't stop now never once did I ever turn my back on the players on field and not will I ever if you are such a big fan then support the club by backing the boys cus per season all I read on here was we signed good players etc and now 5 6 games in I'm reading negative points fact is kb won't sell on the cheap and I admire that because we are worth more then what is offered.
As for the kewell saga u may hate him but didn't we all hate diouf before he joined and as for Kenwyne jones a player that can't get ahead of Walters Owen and crouch at stoke should not be considered.

Say it again turn up support ur team and leave the rest to the club.dont give up hope cus we are Leeds and we always bounce back better and stronger.

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20 Sep 2012 11:14:07
i can see why there is so much negativity on this site about the team and bates etc.. but if you actually look at it 6 games gone won 2 drew 1 lost 3. 2 of which we have lost to teams that are pushing for promotion, however we have lost by an odd goal 2-1 2-1 3-2 to me its not that bad i think we need to give the team a chance to gel properly all these bloody injuries is not helping keeping rotating the squad but when we get everyone back that is when leeds united will be pushing on. as for people saying get grayson back i think they are out of their minds ok we had a shocker defence wise on tuesday but how many did we have under him with his players or shall i say donkeys he signed. warnock will be drumming it in what went wrong and hopefully they will listen and improve from that performance because if we can take out the errors we will be strong contenders. come on boys lets beat forest saturday!!! mot

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So you actually think that warnock telling the players where the went wrong will stop them making mistakes? not a chance.
when we had grayson we looked like scoring i would take that style of play any day over warnocks way.

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I agree, but if we dont turn the results around, then by the time McCormack comes back, we'll have a team lacking any confidence, and it will take a lot to turn them around. We've been dealt a really bad hand in the early fixtures this season, but its still far too early in the season to pick the winners and losers. We just need to keep in touch for now, and keep our heads up.

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I think that is a bit harsh to blame warnock for the team not looking like they will score. the 4 players out injured are majority of our main attacking threat, I think if you took 4 attacking players out of any side they would struggle to score!

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Your expectations have been lowered by Ken Bates spending and a lack of team funding. It's called anchoring. The fact of the matter is when you say 'we have lost against teams that are pushing for promotion' as though that makes it alright. Well, IT ISNT ALRIGHT. WE should have similar investment to these teams, so there should be no excuses. Your reasoning is that of a person supporting a medicore team... like 'mate, i'm hungry, give me crumbs - I'm happy with crumbs!'

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Im sorry to the people saying it is Warnocks fault we arent looking like scoring? im sorry but how is it that you arent looking capable of scoring when you have scored in every game in our last two home games we have scored 5 goals? some of my fellow Leeds fans really are genious'.

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20 Sep 2012 10:45:17
John Guidetti anyone? could be available on a loan... shouldnt cost too much either.

L3EDS

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He scored 20 goals in 23 games for feyernood last year only 20 years old snap him up for the year i would. kieran

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Can't believe he hasn't been considered already - would depend on wages tho. pigface

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Man city have 4 strikers, 2 unreliable to the extreme. he's backup for them in an emergency, so even if we did loan him there'd be a 24 hour recall included.

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He was linked with Sunderland pre-season, can't see him wanting to drop to our league

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20 Sep 2012 10:26:39
Hello to all leeds fans! Dont think we will be getting anyone else this window! Stop moning about takeover, it will happen eventually! Just get behind the team! They need it!
Nunnz89

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Window shut 3 weeks ago. What window? {Ed013's Note - Loan window}

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Will do Nunez. Didn't think you cared, with you not being in Warnocks plans at all.
RMOTLIFE

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20 Sep 2012 10:25:18
in my oppion every1 should give this take over buissness a rest it will happen when it happens are input will not matter in the slightess way, but our club needs us stop thinking about what we could be and think about what we are and at the minuet thats a team that needs a 12th man. not a crowed whos always on their back because because of something that the players thereslefs cant resolve, its not there fault were in this position so lets not take it out on them come on lads stop boycotting the lads needs us every 16 players on the team sheet week in week out have got my full belive and thats how it should be. BATES OUT- MOT - brownless pontee

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12th mans is injured at the moment and cant get to the games

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He's suffering from depression with Andy O'Brien.

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20 Sep 2012 10:12:54
LUST are as culpable in the decline of our team this season as bates. But they also highlight a long standing cynical bitter streak we leeds fans have. NW's praise of the fans is a ploy, not the truth. The atmosphere at ER is an utter disgrace. Leeds fans apathy is a disgrace but unfortunately nothing new. Shrewsbury circa 1985 anyone?. Yes I was at ER with the other 9,998. LUST's derisory ''protest'' on tuesday was pathetic.Their boycott devisive. My god I remember when leeds fans could protest properly; Anyone remember 'Adamson out' after match protests? Now they were violent and well attended. And they were after the match, after the true fans attended the game [ only around 18,000 average mind] and supported a very poor team [ in Div 1.] My answer is; go to the forrest game, support your friggin team and then protest AFTER the match. But I know this wont happen because I am afraid leeds fans are not as good as they think they are. There are too many fair weather fans, always were. always will be.
Pistols 50.

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Get your fact right mate. Lust didn't set that up, it was fans that support LUST doing it off there own back. If they was to set one up and i hope they do, it will be much more organised than that and of bigger scale. Well done to the lads that did protest though. This needs to get the snow ball affect.
BATES OUT FULLY, NOT FIFTY!!
mot4life

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20 Sep 2012 09:53:48
NEW OWNERSHIP: Do we really believe the format of the team will drastically change on any takeover ? Will results immediately become better ? Same team, same players, same manager ! Yes we have mediocre players at £500k or less but we all know that players respond to the fans at Elland Rd because we have such a large and vocal following. Rather than rip into the management or owners shouldnt we be using our support in the best way to increase the potential and playing ability of our current players. We can all dream of quality and new funds thru new investment but this wont affect the play before Xmas at the earliest. We alone can influence the team and get the players to respond in a positive fashion. NW knows this and thats why he chose us because the fans influence (second to none) which will boost performance. I want a change in senior management at the club but am not prepared to bitch about it and see the team underperform on the pitch because 'WE'...THE FANS LET THEM DOWN. Hull was dreadful and we the fans didnt play our part. Bates will go in time but dont you think we should concentrate on improving our performance at matches... YES YOU ! Take some responsibility if your going to attend and turn up with vocal support rather than sitting there and doing nowt. KB has done nowt over the years and I get the feeling his attitude and lethargy is rubbing off on too many fans. MoT

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Very true, well put. Bates out.

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You know I find nothing quite says 'we're behind you guys and want you to get us promoted' like referring to them as mediocre players. I suggest you help Colin with his team talks.

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If takeover happens more fans will return to home games as bates would hopefully be gone . the fans are not even bothered if bates puts money into transfers or not anymore hes pushed us too far now and the only thing us fans will accept is he has nothing to do with transfers.

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The team won't change much, but morale and support will be back.

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I guess the answer to your question is yes. With such a divided group of fans, the takeover will bring some unity which will in turn do exactly what you're asking.

I'm with you 100% - we should be behind the team no matter what's going on off the pitch. Unfortunately, there are others out there who disagree. And until the takeover happens, we will have Bates Out chants at matches, and a cloud over our club.

It can't be good for the manager or the players, so how exactly it helps, I do not know.

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20 Sep 2012 08:37:25
So how many posts today will say TO signed at 5pm or tomorrow or after NF game or on Tuesday an announcement after Everton game. FFS unless you know the truth STOP it it's driving everyone nuts. What gain does it get you, because for us lot who visit the sites involving Leeds united every five bloody minutes it's torture

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...Or you could just be like me and refuse to get excited until I hear from the official site.

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