Leeds Banter Archive July 20 2011

20 Jul 2011 23:24:48
SG has big plans for Paynter next season if he could just learn to hit the bread roll with the hot dog....he keeps missing and making a right mess of things

And you could obviously do better???

Probably no worse...lol

Is he the new Messy

Ah well, Starbucks are hiring if he doesnt burn himself.

Double entendre...

20 Jul 2011 21:31:47
I drive past ER everyday and I have to say 'what a pile of cr4p it is shaping up to be'

Press believalble if you agree.. MOT

Aslong as it doesnt look like luton we should be thankful

Unfortunately I work near Brighton and they are seriously looking forward to the new season in their new home.

Why the hell aren't we proud of making our 'home' a place to be worthy of us??

Looks a bit like stamford bridge

20 Jul 2011 21:19:48
Apparently Max now plays for Tooting & Mitcham, see Wiki

20 Jul 2011 22:12:46
Our trualist j Lloyd Samuel is meant to be awful now, few of my m8s are Cardiff city fans and said try haven't seen much worse than him at left back not looking very promising is it, and with regards to gradel so many rumours I think we should jus sit and wait and hope for the best nobody knows what's happening and it's getting old the news so fingers crossed anyway... Harry mot

20 Jul 2011 20:29:36
Not so much as rumour but I feel it my duty to tell everyone. Leeds financial situation is dire I work security at Elland Road and just found out by eavesdropping a directors meeting 50-70% staff at all levels are being let go am absolutely gutted. So I take it from this we have no money to sign anyone of a decent standard and as for holding Gradel and Snodgrass i'm afraid the wages just ain't there. What a day, jobless and my beloved Leeds set for another season of heartache.

Go take your face for a s**t coz its pouring out of your mouth

What a load of bollocks d---head

LOL.... you spoon

Pilcock do 1 you are a total tosspot chattin s**te

You obviously aint much of a security guard then, if you divulge stuff on a place like this......

Who are you ? Lenny Henry ?, Ben Elton ? or some other comedian.

20 Jul 2011 19:20:15
I wish people would stop saying wiki says this, wiki says that, wiki'flipping'pedia is the most unreliable source known to man. To prove this i have just edited Max Gradel's profile as shown below, its a load of bees wax, do lets stop this now please :)

Full name Max-Alain Betty Susan Gradel[1]

MOT {Ed007's Note - Do not use Wikipedia as a reliable source, I don't put up posts that quote it but that is just my own choice, all Eds have their own way of editing}

Well said... ... Wiki this Wiki that...

It wasn't a dig at you Ed, just the idiots who are using wiki as sources {Ed007's Note - I know that mate, I was just trying to back up your point about Wikipedia, that, "Ed out of 10....." and odds on players signing are a few of our pet pet hates, but shhh don't let on I told you :-)

20 Jul 2011 16:53:12
Hoping to see Leeds get a keeper in soon, even though Rachubka has done well in pre-season.

With the case of Max Gradel, if wecan get he right amount for him then he should go rather than letting him go for nothing next year. I'd love for him to stay but I'm sure SG can find another unknown player and turn them into a star player. {Ed032's Note - we already have him - nunez

20 Jul 2011 16:44:06
All these people who say gradel goin cos this trialist is his replacement how can he be his replacement they play on opposite sides work it out

Been working it out for 3mins now, still can't figure it out. little help please

20 Jul 2011 16:33:07
Hahaha look on wiki at alexandre mendys personal facts, it says he used to be ken bates rent boy

It also says he will be on £3 a week thanks to ken bates...lol

20 Jul 2011 16:04:18
im getting preety p**sed off with fellow supporters slagging the club of cos we havent bought him that or the other, SG knows what hes doing, he spent nothing at blackpool, but the team he built ened up in the top flight last season. last season was a good season, hes added a few players with more experiance than we had last season, and hes still looking to bring new players in, lets back SG and the team and stop slaagig them off. MOT back to the BIG TIME {Ed032's Note - well said lets get behind the boys

20 Jul 2011 14:50:38
Have been addicted to this website for quite a while now and have to say lately half the people who can put boots on have been linked with leeds utd, and so many people keep having a go at Bates we must remember if it wasnt for him we wouldnt have a club to support any more, am sure people like Bates and Grayson dont get to where thet are without having some knowledge of what is going on behind the scene, so come on and if we have not got any where by christmas then you can shoot me down in flames cmon super leeds

Redbus wanted to buy us when we went into admin, but Bates got the club instead, thats why mp, s are looking into bates, BATES NOT OUR SAVIOUR, WE HAVE A CLUB INSPITE OF BATES NOT BECAUSE OF HIM

Anyone who has short memories should read on. There were groups especially Redbus who offered to put much more in to the club to invest in the club, this is why they failed and KB got to keep our beloved club-
Leeds were relegated in May 2004. All the star players were sold and then, to bring in firefighting money, so was Elland Road, and the Thorp Arch training ground. Still, the club was shipping money, so in January 2005 Krasner and his consortium were introduced to Bates.

He was 73 by then, had famously bought a heavily indebted Chelsea for £1 in 1982 and in 2003 sold a heavily indebted Chelsea to Roman Abramovich for £59m, coming away with £17m himself. Yet Leeds fans who hoped Bates fortune and experience would send the club back to prominence were crestfallen when, on May 4 2007, Bates put the club into administration, its debts calculated by administrator KPMG in Leeds at £38m.

Many in football, and HMRC, who were owed £7.7m in unpaid tax and VAT, were outraged KPMG agreed a pre-pack to sell the club back to its owner, the offshore company Forward Sports Fund, of whom Bates was described as the UK representative, for 1p in the pound.

The company voluntary arrangement agreeing to this sale was passed, by just 0.2 per cent above the required 75 per cent of creditors. A large part of the total debt £18m, or 45 per cent was owed to three offshore companies: Forward, registered in the Cayman Islands; Astor Investment Holdings, registered in the British Virgin Islands; and Krato Trust, incorporated on Nevis Island in the West Indies.

For a CVA to go through where there are significant creditors connected by ownership to the company, or its directors, a second vote has to be taken in which the CVA has to be approved by more than 50 per cent of the non-connected creditors. Astor and Krato favoured the CVA and KPMG stated that both were not connected creditors, so no second vote had to be held.

HMRC mounted a legal challenge, and KPMG terminated the CVA and held an auction to sell the club.
The competition faced a severe disadvantage: Astor and Krato, although they had no connection with Bates or Forward, expressed a preference for the club to be bought by Bates bid.

The offshore vehicles were prepared to write their debts off in full if the club was sold to Bates.
If it was sold to another bidder, Astor and Krato s debts would have to be included in the total to be paid off.

That resulted in three bids, all offering more money on the assumption that Leeds would rejoin the Football League, losing out to Bates bid.

With the £18m owed to Astor, and Krato and Forward having to be accommodated by the rival bids but not the one by Bates, his £1.8m offer had to pay only £11.4m of creditors, while the other bidders had to deal with £29.4m of creditors.

Asked why the offshore investors would do this, write off their millions so a club that had collapsed into insolvency, to which they had no connection, should remain owned by the outfit that owed them all the money, Taylor said they believed Bates, and chief executive Shaun Harvey, had the experience to get Leeds back to health.

Krasner, who protested throughout, pointed out in a creditors meeting that Leeds 2006 accounts had stated that Astor did have an interest in the Forward Sports Fund. Taylor said then that he had been to Guernsey, and the connection had been severed.

That was all the public knew of the offshore ownership, until revelations in a legal action Bates has brought in Jersey against a company, AdMatch, he claimed owed the club £190, 400. Robert Weston, AdMatch s owner, claimed this should be set off against £1.43m another of his companies was owed, and asked questions of the Leeds United companies.

It emerged that Forward Sports Fund had two management shares one owned by Bates, the other by Patrick Murrin, his associate and former director at Chelsea. This, Taylor explained, meant Murrin and Bates jointly owned Forward, and Leeds.

Of Forward s ownership, Leeds United s Jersey solicitors said: One share was initially held by Astor Investment Holdings Limited... Astor Investments then instructed professional agents to incorporate Forward Sports Fund, and Astor Investments proceeded to loan money to Forward Sports Fund to undertake its investment in Leeds.

...and of course we'd have been much better off with Redbus. Redbus' bid was a joint bid with Simon Morris, a man whos business dealings make KB look like a saint by comparison. He went bankrupt in 2008 to the tune of £50m had his assets seized, was investigated by the serious fraud squad and was a major stakeholder in the consortium that sold the club to papa smurf in the first place

The problem is some believe bates lies, ie, bates himself said a few weeks ago that he didn't know who owned leed, he just work for them as chairman, [am i right?]then when mp's started putting pressure on the club, bates comes out and says he has brought fsf and inturn brought leeds, so which is it?if he as we all suspect that he has owned leeds from the start, then why lie?, which ever way bates misleads everyone including and most importantly the fans, so this is the the owner we should all back, lol never, leeds til i die but bates no way

20 Jul 2011 14:24:36
Leeds linked with selby town midfield maestro reuben pierce £100.000 2year contract

Or the wonder which is roddie

20 Jul 2011 14:15:25
Hi Ed, I just wondered if knew anything in the Eremenko situation? Is he actually coming for a trial and if so, when? lol

MOT {Ed032's Note - still in the dark about him

20 Jul 2011 13:56:29
Stop looking at Wikipedia for information I just put on that he went to Barcelona for £50 million on 20th July 2011 so if all information on there is true we should have a bit more for Ken to spend in upgrading the hotel to 5 star standard rather than 4.

20 Jul 2011 13:05:51
Last year there were rumours of Adam Le Fondre coming to Elland Road. Any chance? {Ed032's Note - no

Wouldn't want him either.

20 Jul 2011 12:48:28
not rumours but just players who would help us get promoted. samuel, lichaj, lansbury, pacheco, eremenko,

i think white, nunez and lees will be given a shot to impress this yr after successful loan spells

we have a good squad but just a few additions would make us a great squad, if we keep hold of our key players and add a couple more we are in a better situation than last year

deakko {Ed032's Note - i agree

Would be happy with those four but we certainly won't pay for Lansbury and I think he was the player due to sign last season on loan and he changed his mind. He joined Norwich instead and they have had a 2m bid turned down

20 Jul 2011 12:20:32
Don't see hwy people are making so much of a fuss over Becchio and sommas injurys- yes they are VITAL but not it aint as bad as you make out- becchio will probs be back for the westham game at latest + we have mccormack, paynter might turn out gd and Snoddy and gradel, last year we didn't have somma or gradel for the forst 3 games, ...paynter was innjured badly as was snodgrass and we wern't sure if becchio could cut it after loosing beckford- BUT WE MANAGED very well- gradel is reported to be in serious talks over a new deal and snoddy has confirmed he won't be leaving- plus Bates has said WE WILL NOT SELL ANYONE LAST YEAR ON THERE CONTRACTS OR NOT- i expect a loan signing or two for strikers to cover whilst sommas out- maybe cARLOS Vela - THE FUTURES BRIGHT THE FUTURES WHITE

20 Jul 2011 11:34:48
Anybody have a feeling we are going in the wrong direction? Still need a goalkeeper and now we can add a good striker to the list with Becchio out. {Ed032's Note - i'm still confident

Mmmmm yea, I think were cursed Let's see what happens...

Defoe on loan would be a good start.. {Ed032's Note - in your dreams

I think we need a good striker quickly just to settle in before the season starts...i dont think bringing one in later will help.

20 Jul 2011 11:13:05
3 trialists played for leeds last night , one was jlloyd samual - source leeds website

20 Jul 2011 11:00:44
Grayson to take a further look at the three trialists and make a decision after the Shef Weds game on saturday. Grayson says he was impressed by all three, looking positive: Source Official LUFC.

20 Jul 2011 10:50:21
regardin the new away kit, on LUTV Grayson pre match interview, is that it hanging behind him or just training top? If it is dont know if i like it?

20 Jul 2011 10:42:06
that's Somma and Becchio out for the season then. Leeds in search of a strong striker with a tireless work rate, who knows what it means to be a Leeds player... wonder who fits the bill...?

Worrying times ahead.
Got all the other gaps to also fill
Paynter aint good enough,
Whats happened with Billy Sharp ?
On news last week, looked like Grayson was close to signing him
Bates again not prepared to pay

Becchio's definitely not out for the season you plum and we don't want Sharp.

20 Jul 2011 08:10:30
It looks like now Max Gradel wants to leave for the
PREMIER LEAGUE.Soon Snodgrass will follow suit.The
club in chaos with injuries mounting to the players.
Simon has his hands full.The players that Simon wants has been snapped up by other teams.Soon
Simon has no choice but resort to loan players again.The season have not even started and here we are facing all sort of difficulties.For the sake of
all the LEEDS fans out there Ken Bates please back
Simon up in getting the qualitiy players he request.
We do not seem to get the players we want and all we are getting is players that is over the hill or not
wanted by other clubs.I check the site every day,
no players come in but only players wishing to go out. A LEEDS fan.

Snoddy

I can see alot of unrest in the dressing room
Especially the key players.
If quality came in, max, snoddy would be saying, yeah got a good chance of promotion
Its getting beyond a joke now
Not even one penny has been spent

Glad you have posted this, most fans must be feeling a bit uncomfortable now, posted something similar last night and was told to change the record.

Change the record ffs.

Out of our attack from last year, 2 are long term injured, 1 is being offered out, and 1 is unsettled. worrying times indeed.

I'LL KEEP PLAYING THE SAME RECORD TILL BATES/GRAYSON DO SOMETHING POSITIVE.

Play whatever record you like, I'm happy to let Grayson manage the football club and leave clowns like you to forget how to turn their caps lock off.

20 Jul 2011 01:51:05
Is all this stuff about gradel true. It was only last season when he said he was in debt to leeds for giving him a chance and he wanted to pay us back by getting us to the prem. Seems to have changed his tune quite a bit

One word......"money"

25k is alot of money. People should stop complaining.

That's if he even really wants £25000 a week. People should use their brains a bit when it comes to paper talk.

Another one word.........'agent'

He could get a lot more money elsewhere..u can see the problem he has.

19 Jul 2011 23:10:54
if we get jlloyd n osbourne thats left bk sortd n comp for centre mid, looks like sg has been pullin the strings, and why not try an unknown whoever it is, he must be good if they keeping that hush hush the commentators cant mention his name

Deakko

Ps hope this shuts everyone up now MOT

Grow up - signing those two half wits won't shut us up as we deserve better

Samuel, who I think woould be a good addition to the club, will never join on the wages he will be offered. He'll piss himself laughing and end up at QPR or Leicester.

Loving the guy resorting to insults saying "grow up".

He is awful just because he applauds the cop you think hes great. not a champoinship player

I posted original comment and i would slag the management if certain players were sold but so far they haven't, who do u suggest we get in? who do we deserve??? seth johnson? robbie fowler?

Based on our fanbase, stature and position we deserve players like Dunne, Wellbeck, Kranjcar, Rob Green - ie players who currently we can't even dream of. If Beast won't pay a transfer fee then why not pay 15k a week to top up the wage of a top player who can't get 1st team games at tottenham, villa, scum, city?