Leeds Banter Archive September 01 2012

01 Sep 2012 19:01:17
Fans keep talking about 'our club'. Its not their club its Bates' club and he charges fans
to see his team. Another comment to the effect we need another man in charge. If you
do buy the club and it will be yours to do what you
want with it. Bates is not going to sell until its in his best interests to do so and why
should he? It was me and fans
were giving me stick and I could
afford it I know I would do to spite them. Not a Bates lover but fans who pay a few
quid aweek think they can dictate to someone,
by whatever means, owns the
rights to the club. I watch the
team and I am pleased to do so I dont hold any business rights to it. If I dont like it I can always go somewhere else. I do have opinions and i dont think Bates is doing us, the spectators,
many favours. We can voice
opinions but we have to keep a sense of proportion and being offensive doesn't help.

Showing great loyalty Mrs. Bates, ken will be pleased with you!

Looks like your on a promise Mr Bates. Mrs Bates ringing your bell.
mot4life

Glad to see theres someone else out there who's living in the real world. So tired of hearing the person's demand this and expect that because it's their club............NO IT'S NOT and untill captain birdseye signs on the dotted line it will stay his to do with as he likes, wake up.
Support the team or not it's up to you but you dont run the club, nor do your opinions (which you are entitled to) matter to anyone but yourself

A few quid a week...you obviously don't go to games pal, it cost some supporters thousands a year so jog on back to Monaco Mrs Bates.

Well thanks for pointing out 'we' dont actually own 'our' club, and there s me thinking that because I bought 5 shirts last season I owned the club. Its not about the signature on the ownership form (and believe me we dont need you to tell us who that is) its about passion, love and LOYALTY, which 'we' have in abundance, thats what makes it 'our' club. Not sure about you though Mrs Bates. MOT IrishWhite

Mrs Bates here again(LOL). Supported Leeds for many years. I dont own the club and I have seen lots worse than Ken Bates but at the end of the day we pay to watch the owners team whether we lke it or not. The put up the money and call the shots. I am a customer just the same as when I go to Sainsburys. To have any real say you need to be a shareholder.

We could make it our club - Why don't LUST get their act together and get a fans trust going to buy the club, then they can master their vision plan instead of just causing trouble with the current takeover.

Mrs Bates is clearly an expert in dinosaur economics. The idea that stakeholders don't have a stake in a company's success is dead and buried like the dinosaurs. Stakeholders may not be shareholders but loyal customers are still stakeholders. Its not rocket science..Because if it weren't for those of us who see ourselves as Leeds through and through there would be no business for Mrs Bates to benefit from. Dinosaurs have had their day especially those that call stakeholders and loyal customers people whilst taking our money and not investing in the club. Pick up a pen ken and enjoy a happy very happy retirement in Monaco.

Because would you really want LUST in charge. No thanks pmsl KB is bad enough can you imagine Cooper as chairman.

5 shirts.................a season ticket, whatever! makes no diference, you're just a customer try and get that through your th**k heads. Birdseye OWNS it and yes it is about a signature on a bit of paper, hence no takeover till he gets whatever he wants for it. stop your dreaming and listen to Mrs Bates you might learn something

In Germany, the fans own the clubs, i.e. a minimum of 51% so no single person can own the club outright. It's German law. As a by-product of this law, the fans are treated with respect, or rather, as human beings, they can can drink in the stands, carry in flags, smoke, jump up and down in unison til the stadium literally rocks, and no sign of unwarranted steward/police abuse. Surely it is time we had 1, the same support for this ownership model from the government on this god forsaken island, and 2, a movement from the fans to take ownership of Leeds United. I hate this country and how it condones the treatment of fans, I hate Ken Bates and all the parasites like him and I hate the the FA and FL who condone the ownership of clubs and treatment of fans like ours by the ilk of Mr. and Mrs. Bates. How much does it take to buy that Cockney crook out? With a triumvirate of fans, business men and the Leeds Council, LUFC can be be delivered into the hands of those who love and cherish the club. sawfeet.

01 Sep 2012 20:59:03
I saw an identical ken bates today at Inverness airport, I wanted to take a photo, but I thought I may look a bit weird taking a picture of an old man.. haha

01 Sep 2012 18:48:44
Unlucky not to win today. Id have taken a point prematch though. Last season we would've got tanked. Neil has built a squad albeit a thin squad, but it is a squad of grafters with experience. These lads listen to him at half time and seem to play for the team not the wage packet. We may still be owned by Bates but at the end of the day whoever owns us. WE ARE LEEDS. Two relegated teams have come to Elland Road and we took 4pts. Should've been 6. We have lost one game to Blackpool who look great this season. We won't win them all but if we put in performances like this we can take a good few scalps this season. Maybe a good loan signing in next few weeks to bolster the team but let's have faith. We can do this. WE ARE LEEDS. M.O.T

Crmd

We were not unlucky not to win we could have been 5 down at half time mate.

01 Sep 2012 18:35:32
Goes to show, you don't have to spend the 'millions' that Blackburn have spent to get a result! Determination, good management and commitment means more than an '8 Million Pound' Mr Rhodes!

MOT! WMS!

01 Sep 2012 18:13:02
Three strikers score goals which is promising
Diouf staying but we just need to hold on whilst winning c'mon Leeds

01 Sep 2012 17:14:37
Chairman Ken Bates addressed the issue in his programme notes, writing: "There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes which unfortunately cannot be put into the public arena. I am determined that when I move on my legacy will be that the club is in safe hands."
This sound to me like he is not selling as the buyers in his opinion are not right, anyone will do for now as far as I am concerned just not KB, Go back to Monaco for good

F=cksake we are not in safe hands now and Bates is trying to butter us up, for when he turns around and says " The takeover was just not right for the club and ive got there best interests at heart, YAARDY, YAARDY YAA!" Some will say, i believe him , he saved us.
I say f=ck off Bates and drop dead, i don't care now what you've got to say, unless its im off.
BATES OUT, BATES OUT!!
mot4life

01 Sep 2012 17:12:45
Shame about the end result but after going 2 nil down clear to see we have a proper Manager. If only we had a proper Chairman. Think it's pretty obvious with just 2 marquee signings we'd rule this league. Praying for the takeover.

Should have won the game. Do you not think Warnock could have made better use of his subs? I think Wanock's management contributed to us losing two points by not having the courage to try and capitalise on the lead. Blackburn lack pace and had to use two subs quite early on. Playing Byram for more than 90 seconds and maybe White could have put them under pressure for the last 15/20 mins. Instead we tried to defend a lead against a strong attacking team. Their defence was pretty poor and we should have done more to exploit that late on.
ML

Totally agree and it was Warnocks fault we went two down cos of the formation he set up.

01 Sep 2012 15:54:22
All Blackburn, 2-0 down then a scramble in their area and El Hadj Diouf scores for Leeds. 2-1 down at half time. Come on Neil, time for an inspirational half time team talk to finish a wonderful comeback and get us three points. Blackburn are there for the taking, lets take them

01 Sep 2012 15:30:45
2-0 down !!!

I fear the worse,

BATES OUT NOW !! Glad i couldn't get to the match Gj

Bet Ed13 is pulling his hair out lol

Typical of some on here ,rather gob off ranting on about Bates out than supporting the boys,the spirit that NW has instilled in them is there for all to see,to those supporters that go to matches that is.

Typical, I moan like a pill*ck, and we shock the pants off me, Well done great spirit. Warnock is amazing....
Still want Bates OUT ASP !!
Gj

But it ended 3-3 which is a good result vs blackburn

I Did reply to my comment however one of the Eds didnt post ir, so yes i look stupid now Gj

Glad to see fellow fans, mainly arm chair supporters sticking with the team through thick and thin...! Pmsl what ever happened to MOT??

Time people get a grip of the situation and understand what football is about imo. Its a complete over reaction to everything.

MOT armchair supporters ;)

Its funny how many people on this site call there fans of the same club armchair fans just because you dont have a season ticket or your not a member doesnt mean your not a fan of are club we are all leeds fans and we will always march on together? Dale lufc

01 Sep 2012 14:16:08
posted about 5 weeks ago that there was no taker at Leeds and said that this was just a smoke screen to get fans off the back of KB, he has now made it to the safety of transfer window and he has the season tickets and merchdise money from fans who were hoping for big changes (conned). Players brought in funded by our better player being sold(no investment), the team is not much better than last seasons team although I do like Austin, Pearce Kenny and Byram as a back up.
I feel we should stop turning up to matches for a month and show KB it us that run the club not him, I know this will be bad for the players and the team but another season is already lost lets get him out. With no revenue he will be off to Monaco never to be heard of again, it is now up to us to vote by not putting any money into the club until he has gone. I am not and uddersfield fan nor a Norwich fan but a very mithered Leeds fan

Why do some "fans" keep banging on about boycotting matches,just got back from match to read this crap again,just over 24,000 fans saw Leeds fight back from 2-0 down,they are giving 100% and we ought to do the same,when you look at the squad Blackburn have got and the money theyve spent compared to us theres no comparison,yet we could easily have won this match,never mind about Bates,never mind about the takeover,support the lads choose what,if you dont like it f-ck off and "support" someone else.

Doesn't though does he - he's mortgaged the season ticket money to fund the redevelopment of the East Stand. That's why, ultimately, he will have to sell. It's just a question of how long he can hold out - he seems to be a very stubborn man.
ML

But your theory is carp. It would mean LUST are actors under the secret control of Bates. LUST may be many things but they don't work for Ken!!

01 Sep 2012 13:41:09
programme notes today please read
take over not going happen please read
we are sxxxxd

Where exactly does it say that it will not happen?

It doesn't just another over reaction from an armchair supporter who reads something on twit's then regurgitated it.

01 Sep 2012 12:39:40
its not impossible to do well with no money we spent next to nothing last year and reached play-offs and carlin cup final we spent I think £1.75 milllion pounds so you have to trust warnock.

Blackpool!!??

01 Sep 2012 10:48:13
So at the end of the day we're back at square one. I don't believe in this takeover now. I just think it was a smoke screen and fabrication for one of Bate's tax dodgers. Really hate this guy. Words just can't describe the hate.

01 Sep 2012 10:44:14
Bates should have funded warnocks targets because he can't run a football club on the assumption he wouldn't be there,takeover is not goin through it never will,them guys sat beside him at wolves gme were there for show and show only.

01 Sep 2012 10:05:36
templeton to rangers....its official....dont really care anymore...lets just get behind the lads...we have the best manager in the league and plenty of quality..squad is a bit bare i agree..the lads will have to roll there sleeves up..become 1...wear that shirt with pride...as will we..because who are we...SUPER LEEDS UNITED.... MOT.............slw4

01 sep 2012 09:29:48
was it just me who was tearing there out last night watching the transfer window. watching little clubs by brighton,blackpool,wednesday, to name a few buying and attracting good players. while we are doing nothing. really ****** off.

01 Sep 2012 08:41:47
cant believe all the negativaty on this site fans should be gratful to mr bates for saving us

Dont think anyone disputes he saved us but he cant take us any further and he dragged his heels with the takeover my opinion of him has changed from saviour to parasite

Bates did not save are club you person the people that have saved leeds united are us as fans that pay top dollar week in week out

Wtf ken get off our site.....kevlufc

01 Sep 2012 19:48:16
The only person who would say that now is Bates himself

01 Sep 2012 08:22:00
lads lads lads, i dont wear no rose tinted glasses but do you really think bates would stump up his own cash last minute to please us? if the takeover happens soon at all there are still free agents worth a look, buscaky who warnock used to have, klasnic who is a hard working forward who scores a goal or 2, also emergency loan market could bring beckford back, nowadays if a player doesnt wanna oplay as we know their contracts can be muutuakky ended like andy o'brien for example, its not the end of the world. warnock has not walked so i still have faith, support the players and the manager

bates out

deakko7

01 Sep 2012 07:15:05
Well all the other championship teams aiming for promotion have done well in the last day of transfers when we have done nothing not even giving the deadwood away{PUGH,NUNEZ,RUBBERHANDS].Rumour has it OLD MASTER BATES was at the Chelsea game last night in Monaco with the new Chelsea shirt on.

01 Sep 2012 06:57:26
I'm so disillusioned with Bates am actually upset Everton tie screened live because I know where the TV proceeds are going. Some octogenarian back pocket. I shouldn't be thinking like this but this is what is happening. He's making Leeds fans feel sick. One thing I do know this can't go on or for much longer. If Bates won't stand down there's gotta be someone out there who can unearth his skeletons and make his life difficult. Bates out!!!!

The only way Bates will go now is when gates fall to a level where the club is loosing money and cant continue to meet its obligations.
Leeds fans dont want to boycott matches - they are real supporters - but there will be some games that are not as attractive as others when gates will be lower than break even (especially if we are a mid table team at that point, which is possible due to the lack of investment) and this be the turning point in the future ownership of Leeds IMO.
Either Bates accepts a takeover bid or we revisit administration and he gets far less unless hes got another dodgy deal up his sleeve.
Either way its going to be a long, painful season watching Neil Warnock attempting to give the club the kiss of life as Bates continues to strangle it at every opportunity. I suspect that this saga is just beginning not coming to a conclusion.

Don't think Bates would care about a few skeletons being unearthed - plenty of stuff already out there about his past.

01 Sep 2012 01:02:28
Warnock please quit, leeds fans please boycot games this is the only way that KB will leave our beloved club. NO NONENSE NOW KB NEEDS TO GO

Is that your answer nw quit what a rediclious thing to say. The takeover will happen at some point I think bates was holding the new would be owners to ransom over the deadline day but now it's gone he has no power left. If stories are to be believed Leeds have no money plus all ticket receipts are used to pay off loans so he will have to sell of cough up some money so the club can run.

Get bates out .

Don't be an person! Warnock has got the fans believing again despite his financial restraints and now you are tweaking him to leave. His stupid would this be, and with no fans turning up would you expect the players to give their all

What a stupid post, asking the Championships best manager to leave, why not go the whole way and burn down ER, you're not a Leicester fan are you hoping that he'll go and work in the crisp factiry?

I agree with the boycotting of games if we hit ken where it hurts ie (pocket) then he has no other option than to leave...
George LS13

01 Sep 2012 00:48:51
Lets hope we win tommorrow, otherwise some of you fans will be jumping in front of the 4:45 train just outside the dragon. Cheers up guys eh lifes not that bad :D
Bainesyboy

4;45train, thats a bit early to be leaving the ground.... unless knowing the railway the trains running late .... dave

01 Sep 2012 00:15:45
i agree with one person on here that is that warnock has done well with the funds available so lets get behind the lads againsst blackburn and hope foor the best im sure we will get a few loans in early septemberr

Tht would be me u agree with :)
Bainesyboy

With the funds available, absolutely. Not many others could do well with no money to spend.

You get behind them, the vile Bates is getting none of my money.

And me, it's a shame that he had 5 players that are deadwood that was signed by SG. NW repeatedly bemoaned this and its the sole reason why we haven't signed anymore players. NW said he had to clear them first, but they are and such good packages that no teams can afford/want to take them.

Still 11 players in is a great achievement, the first 11 look far superior than last season.

I can't believe people thought we would buy players yesterday? we have a good championship team. our players know this league very well, 6 points out of 9 is a good a start for us , so lets add another 3 points today

31 Aug 2012 23:55:46
heres a riddle for some of you whining, complaining persons

why would Bates invest money into a squad when hes on the way out?

not hard to decifer is it

Is he really though?

Totally agree bates out mot

Here's one for you to decipher, why hasn't Bates invested any money in the squad during the past Seven summer transfer windows?

Yes he is!

Here's a riddle for you too. Bates never invested when he was the owner either. And less of the whining too. People have alternatives to you.

31 Aug 2012 23:39:39
Thanks to everyone with all your wrong rumors keep them up the skunk in Leeds must be strong , we all must remember we are now a average club with a average team with a average win rate ,so please let the takeover be true as it's breaking my heart

We are far from an average team, that sole reason is NW. I love Leeds but rather than blaming KB for our current affairs I look more closely at the fans, its the fans that bring conjecture and stir negativity amongst itself and its the fans that make up lies and fake rumours. We are being split and divided from within, this needs to stop, the club is in a stronger place now than this time last year and as I've said before that's down to NW, who is the best manager in this league.

Match days should be positive and fans should be fully behind the team, imo that is not the case and hasn't been for a number of years.

31 Aug 2012 23:24:27
Sulk as much as u want boys, nor i or you could of done anything, but ill tell u what we can do tommorrow, support the 11 boys on that pitch and that 1 man on the sidelines who lets be fair has put a good squad together on less than a shoestring
Bainesyboy

I am doing something,i'm staying away. If a few thousand more did the same Bates would soon sign up.

He's put a decent first team together but I can't agree about the squad. The backup looks thinner than last year. Let's hope there aren't too many injuries and suspensions and let's hope the takeover actually does happen before the January window.
ML

31 Aug 2012 22:54:50
Enjoying all the popularity Bates? Suggest you sell after the Blackburn game and then go annoy another set of fans. Even Pompey have more cash than us.

31 Aug 2012 22:42:38
Big ken has let us down, all of our targets are practically gone, pull the trigger now?

31 Aug 2012 22:32:59
Watching this transfer window is like watching everyone else open their xmas presents