Leeds Banter Archive July 18 2012

 

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18 Jul 2012 23:49:02
Ross McCormack is rubbish, whatever we get for him, Neil Warnock will get someone miles better for the same value..my humble opinion

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You clearly dont watch leeds united if you come to that conclusion. i also bet you are a massive beckford fan

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I wouldn't go as far as to say McCormack is rubbish, but I have watched him for two seasons, he's a form player, his first touch is appalling, his movement is average and his shooting is often poor. He had one good season in four last year, & let's face it most goals came at the beginning of the season, he then disappeared over Xmas and Grayson got sacked. He's a big standard Championship striker. There are better for his alleged sale price. I wouldn't lose sleep
if he went, but we do need a few more striking additions

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Well if total rubbish can score 20 goals a season, bring us a bin full........

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I know it's a bit harsh but I just feel one of many different strikers would have scored 20 goals (mostly under Grayson - where we scored for fun and also leaked goals for fun) Beckford would be fine in the Championship and would only ever be a bench warmer if we went up

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Since 2008 Ross has played 140 games and has scored 45 goals. That's like a goal ratio of 1 in 4 games. If you want to get promoted can you afford to have a player that will often go three games at a time without scoring? For 2.5 million I wouldn't say no.

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I'm sorry. But McCormack had one good season at Leeds and all of a sudden he's hailed a god?

He needs to be more consistant before throwing his weight around asking for more money. And no player is bigger than the club.

MOT

Roundhay White

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Since 2008 Ross has played 140 games and has scored 45 goals. That's like a goal ratio of 1 in 4 games?

I think you will find it is a lot closer to 1 goal in 3 games. Having said that, I agree that if we got £2.5m let him go. JH

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McCormack has only been with us for 2 seasons; the first season he didn't play until the back end when he showed how good he could be and then last season he was by far our best player who looked to be frustrated at times by the dross that he was playing with. I am not saying he is Premiership class but as far as this division goes he is as good as anyone out there and easily worth another season with us. Like we did with Beckford, let him play out his contract and if he scores the goals that gets us in the top 6 or even higher it would be worth letting him go on a free at the end of the season

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Beckford has never scored 20 goals in a season above league one level, ross has, this seems a pretty simple comparisson to get yer head around?

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18 Jul 2012 22:42:08
Im sorry but if you seen becchio and snods john b*lls***z leeds 15, where did you see them exactly? And at differant times on same day to! lol surely you must have a momento from meeting your idols(if you are a leeds fan that is), a photo on your phone perhaps or some credible proof to post in and back up your personic ramblings. The drivel/lies you have typed over the summer(so called summer is a total disgrace, surely he got to be considerd a trouble causer/poo stirer at some stage ed? It and he is beyond a joke now. Tommo.lufc.84

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Hi, settle Tommo, settle. I think Ed will sort something out, have a look at the 20.35.15 post in the mean time.

tRip {Ed013's Note - I am trying to locate the real John as people are using his name, but he wont leave his email. Calm all the abuse at him, he appears to be a youngster and he is a Leeds fan}

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This Fitz lad is so unbelievable now, that he should change his name to Jackanory, please tell us a story, as you are so interesting(NOT!) So you find the most active site and beat out a few lyrics, with the hope of feeling wanted and loved. Don't worry lad we love you, like we love work on a Monday morning pal. Now go beat one off, to your next door neighbours cat.
Sorry Ed, someone had to be honest and mine isn't a rumour. FACT.
source: Mr Fitz
mot4life

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18 Jul 2012 22:27:44
Just requested to join the group. Checking this site every 10 mins just doesn't take up enough of my time!

I think it's gonna be a busy couple of wks as Ross, Aidy n Snods all look like there off, leavin us needin-
1 Gk
1 Rb (peltier?)
1 Cb
2 Cm (Austin + 1)
1 Rm
1 St

That's 7 min-gonna be interesting!

Adsy.. {Ed013's Note - Excellent and added}

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Cheers Ed.. Internet, & Twitter! Ill find out about this takeover when it happens!
Player wise id like
Akos Busaky (cm)
Ricardo Fuller/Solomon Tchoyi (st)
Zak Witbread (cb)

Seems Peltier and Austin are on there way, with all the above players out of contract they surely are worth a punt. Who else we think would improve us?
Adsy..

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18 Jul 2012 21:56:11
Just expressing my concerns regarding the impending takeover,I am not experienced in buying football clubs and due diligence but,if the consortium who are interested have been granted an extension regarding the due diligence which ESPN had stated,surely there must be a few discrepancies with the books and that they are not 100% happy.

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The due diligence is just taking time,after all they are investing a lot of money in buying the club. They have not been put off from what they have seen and are still keen, hence the extended period of exclusivity. Just be patient

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I think it's just taking a bit of time due to the ownership structure of the club and stadium/TA. Whilst a lot of people speak ill of ken and his offshore structures, it's still a good way of operating a business. Would you pay more tax than you really needed too? I know I wouldn't. Theres no rush either. Whilst we all want to see it done and dusted I don't think we will be throwing millions around in fees. NW has his targets and is accruing a good team and a cost effective rate so far. Roll on first day of the season.

Crmd

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I bet the hold up is getting back ownership of ER and TP. Come on investers, you'll go down in history and there might be a song for you.
mot4life

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18 Jul 2012 21:46:16
Feelgood factor starting to show among the Leeds fans. Looking forward to seeing Austin in a Leeds shirt. He can make the team tick my opinion.

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How many times have you seen him play?

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I bet you would share his optimism of we were paying £5 million for him without seeing him play Wunt you
Have faith in the gaffer he's honest enough to give it his best
How many times did you see sir Lucas radabe play before he signed
Russjon

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Erik Bakke's seen him plenty and i for one trust his judgement. He will go down as a key player.
mot4life

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Only one way to find out if he's any good for us....

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18 Jul 2012 21:11:40
What do u look like ed {Ed013's Note - Tall, dark and handsome with a few Leeds tattoos! fancy a date!}

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Ed how do you know its not a bloke or do you swing both ways, dont think your wife would be too happy with your secrets...lol ......., only joking, hope the wife and the new born are both well... Dave {Ed013's Note - Damn you caught me out! I was going to play along as a chick! I do have a pic on our Leeds group on Facebook, but not saying who I am in case the haters come after me! I am Lucas Kopcat in the group}

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Ed, e,mail me your and illl add you.... dave {Ed013's Note - Go to this mate http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/219515094838117/ }

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18 Jul 2012 21:10:38
i dont care any more about the takeover or who leaves dont get me wrong i really want us to do well but i love leeds always will and i love going to elland road win lose or draw not going to let all this takeover and players leaving talk get me down any more[kez1919]

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18 Jul 2012 21:04:39
Interesting read in the YEP from Bakke re. Rodolph Austin, respected nationwide (Norway) by players,fans and pundits alike. Sounds very much exactly what we have been missing for the past... god knows how long. So I hope we do manage to get him, but I am very much aware that he does need to prove it, as like many before him have been awful... (Brolin anybody... Just as a prime example). So we have... Kenny, Drury, Pearce, Green... All signed. And we have... Peltier, Norris, Varney, Austin and numerous other names linked. I hope we're talking to... Cox, Boyd and Diouf (I know risky) but Warnock likes at least one player with a questionable temperament... Trabaat (spelling?) in his teams. And maybe a couple of other surprises. All in all, even with the whole takeover stuff... Which seems to be taking forever. I think we really could be there or there abouts next season. Here's hoping I don't get stung by the sharp taste, and slap in the face that reality can prove to be.

Eltez MOT

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18 Jul 2012 20:35:15
Your either a club player stalker or just very lucky, because you seem to run in to every player were linked with or selling and they seem to tell you everything! Stop chatting out of your ****
RyanMOT {Ed013's Note - I take it you are talking about John Fitz 15!}

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Hi, there may be more than one John Fitz 15. It could be a football rumour gathering unit with operatives everywhere.
I am John Fitz 15, no.. I am John Fitz 15, no..Iam John Fitz 15.....

tRip {Ed013's Note - I wish John would leave his email address!}

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Ask him what part of city ls15 is and if he doesn't answear, we know he's full of it. This is my kneck of the woods. so i will know what his answear should be.
mot4life

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At a guess I'd say Killingbeck area?

And I''m NOT John Fitz Leeds LS15

Leeds4along time

Ps, I don't come from anywhere near Leeds either......

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Wouldn't he just google it?

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18 Jul 2012 20:12:49
Everyone is saying when is the takeover? But they did say on the website when they announced due diligence that there would be no further announcements!
So they probably will not even tell us when its done.. My guess is its already done because Bates has never put his hands in his pocket like this and linked us to this many players!

So my guess is its already done but they are most likely not telling us.. like they said in the first place.

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Yes, I thought this myself and a very sensible quote.

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I agree, if the take over is announced before the transfer window shuts the everybody inflates their prices as they will believe we are cash rich....which we might be.

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18 Jul 2012 19:26:42
Not a regular poster, but a regular visitor, just thought i'd post this link for all the doubters of the imminent takeover. Sick to death of coming on here and reading reading all the negative comments all the time......yes its so frustrating being a leeds fan.....but we are LEEDS and things are definitely on the up, so please have some patience and good times are about to roll once again for the mighty whites.
M.O.T... WHITE.E

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1125446/leeds-united-takeover-complete-in-coming-days?cc=5739

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Gzzzzzzzzzz I hope so. This takeovers taking it's toll as I've got no finger nails left. {Ed013's Note - I've got no Toe nails left!}

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Good one ed but i hope you washed your feet first lol . the bulldog {Ed013's Note - Nah mate, once a week only!}

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Ed! your quite flexible and dextorous then?
JB {Ed013's Note - No mate I got my Miniature Schnauzer to do it for me by rubbing dog meat on them!}

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"Ed013's Note - I've got no Toe nails left!}"

At least you've still got your toes left - aaaarghhhh!!!!

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18 Jul 2012 19:17:24
Who here honestly believes the we are gonna get promoted this year be it automatic or promotion? Personally so far I can't see us even making top 10 or 12 but hopefully the squad will have changed dramatically after the takeover is completed or fallen through.

10-1 on PP for outright champions and 7-2 for promotion every year I always put €200 on us winning the league and never win but always backed them anyway but to be perfectly honest this is the first time the way we're looking I just can't back us as much as I'd love to I pray I'm wrong at end of the season but I genuinely can't see it.

Oh yeah and before all the be positive garbage starts it's only my opinion it's not gospel which a lot of people on here think their own opinions are.

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Well, it's pretty obvious it isn't gospel and simply your opinion but for the first time ever I'm going to place a bet. On Leeds to get automatic promotion.
JB

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Original poster here JB ill take that bet and would gladly pay up at end of season and be proved wrong.

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"Who here honestly believes the we are gonna get promoted this year be it automatic or promotion? Personally so far I can't see us even making top 10 or 12"

Yep have to agree, this new consortium will try and get us mid table this year, relegated the following year, and heading towards bankruptcy and oblivion within 5 years max.

Get a grip! We are going up! Have faith!

MOT Leeds4alongtime!

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Hey MOT Leeds4alongtime

You seem to have a short term memory you not remember Gerald Krasner??

Your comment looking a little redundant now.

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18 Jul 2012 18:37:38
I really dont understand what's on.we let a couple go for little money then sign a couple for little money.surely if a takeover was on the way with hard cash available then surely we should tell mccormack this and keep him,that's as we'll as signing somebody better.a squad will get us up.snodgrass would stay but also get others in.all we get at mo is mccormack likely to go,snodgrass chance to if offer upped,and even peltier is more like for hudd now as we won't pay there wage.and to be putting andy gray in some of your starting eleven is ludicrous.we are still swapping mediocre for slightly better mediocre,this isn't a moan,it's fact .do u think that with whos gone already and who's likely to go that what we have so far is good enough,and I mean some of whom have been linked.we are a mile away yet from anything like a top six team.fact.go onim surveillance have comebacks..shrew leeds

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Problem is mate, until takeover is actually signed it could still fall through so Neil is signing people on that basis. Regarding McCormack, I think it was stated when we listed players that he would only be a bit-part player and I get the impression its his decision to leave which to be fair to him I can appreciate

al1977

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18 Jul 2012 18:22:09
God! Some of these posts today are a major relief, to see sensible posts talking positively about our beloved club is indeed something I thought had disappeared forever. I read on newsnow that an extension to due dilligence has been granted, my question is, is there a lawful time limit to due dilligence? or has this extension been granted by Ken Bates?
JB

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No law about DD mate, one of those things that will take as long as it needs for the potential buyer feels they require. I've been party to deals which have taken longer and shorter but what we need to appreciate is that this is a very complicated deal bearing in mind ownership of TA and Elland Road plus all the other separate companies like Yorkshire radio......it's not a straight forward deal hence why I think there's extra time been given

al1977

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Thanks al1977 for clearing that up. I think the way it was worded made me think that due dilligence had a specific lawful time limit.
JB

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18 Jul 2012 18:00:37
Just a thought guys.....if the rumour on es9n is right than tmoz might be the day as ramadan starts friday!! So lets all hope eh?! MOT


SUPALEEDS11

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This is small part of what happens during ramadan (below), Bates in Monaco would allow the signing to go ahead, if you see bates at er friday then all below would blow the deal out of the reconing for a month, unless ken has given power of atterny to someone he trust!...you are right before friday seems the only solution.
During Ramadan, every part of the body must be restrained. The tongue must be restrained from backbiting and gossip. The eyes must restrain themselves from looking at unlawful things. The hand must not touch or take anything that does not belong to it. The ears must refrain from listening to idle talk or obscene words. The feet must refrain from going to sinful places. In such a way, every part of the body observes the fast. M.O.T

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These guys gonna miss a whole lot of games if they cant go to sinful places for 40 days

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18 Jul 2012 17:45:31
I think partially due to a couple of youtube videos everyone has began to want Austin to sign, and soon! He does look aggressive, strong, pacey, tall... the full package really- just fingers crossed this isn't another ramon nunez.

Pearce
Drury
Green
Kenny
Austin - 5 v good championship level players.
Snodgrass - would be like a new signing if he agrees a new contract

Lees is only going to get better and better under strict, disciplined NW.

Basically our team looks to be shaping up nicely, a striker, rb and another cm and lm and i think were pushing for top 3/4 at least!

RyanMOT

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How can he be a weedy tricky skildull weakling like Nunez ? He's a beast - think about it Eirik Bakke, Voted best player in Norway too - you know we love hom, he's our new Noel Blake or Vinny Jones or John Sheridan or Tony Yeboah - a hero in waiting

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18 Jul 2012 17:45:30
So Ken Bates is back in Monaco (ESPN have apparently spoken to him there) Let's hope he has signed the paperwork and he enjoys his retirement!

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I doubt Ken Bates is 'back' in Monacco, more like he hasn't left yet, he only has so many days in England each year.

More likely hell pop over when it's all done and dusted, or more likely expect all the others to pop over there....

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18 Jul 2012 17:40:40
The proposed signing of Rudolph Austin is very unusual for Leeds.
I cannot remember in recent years any transfer targets mentioned by the club,reason being is to prevent alerting rivals and risk losing out in a deal.
I suspect this guy is in the bag and has been since the news leaked

White teeth

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18 Jul 2012 16:49:09
Does anyone no who is paying for these players
Surely it can't be the potential owners
What would happen if deal fell through?
Surely it's bates that's spending and if it is I think all those who have slagged him off in the past(yes including me) owe him an apology
The rumoured spends are
Paddy kenny £500000
Paul green free
Adam drury free
Jason pierce 500000
And if yep to be believed
Luke varney £400000
Lee peltier £650000
Rodolph Austin £500000
So that's a million spent plus probably £250000 in signing on fees with another £1.5 million about to be spent plus rejecting 2-3 million for snodgrass
Probably get slaughtered for this but cheers ken
Bit late but better late than never
Russjon

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Well siad mate - It must be KB paying I can't see new owners paying money out until they own the club.

MOT

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Don't suppose anyone who clicked disagree would care to share there reasons
Russjon {Ed013's Note -other teams fans mate, they do it all the time}

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18 Jul 2012 16:32:32
i think warnock is building a side that can contest the championship spending as little as possible. The players he considers premiership standard are getting long contracts. I notice the championship quality players are on short term so next year he can replace them with better players from what will hopefully be a decent pot. Just my opinion from looking at the signings made so far.
Lucas

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Nah, if ken can spend now he could have spent years ago.
I think it's more than likely that as part of the deal a interim payment has been made to sort NW out by the new buyers, either that or KB has laid out some cash but included it in the final value of the club ! Either way it's looking good and some positive progress at last. MOT leeds leeds leeds

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18 Jul 2012 16:24:00
Its happened! Finally the news we have all been waiting for! Now we can really look forward to the new season;

''Leeds United are pleased to announce that UAP TradeLocks have signed an agreement to become the Official South Stand sponsor of Leeds United.''

Source-OS.

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18 Jul 2012 15:53:48
check out espn soccernet. is it possible they have a inside source?
this does seem to me (who has been watching the news feeds religiously) to be a exciting statement from a reputable sports network!

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18 Jul 2012 15:32:57
Got all excited thinking about conspiracy theories when I saw the new south stand sponsor UAP Tradelocks. The UA part got me going, United Arab Emirates.
I think that's an accurate level of how desperate we all are for news !

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18 Jul 2012 14:58:19
Although NW has stated the new owners will be running a tight ship which has put the optimistic 'billionaires' out of the running, i think it might be a bit early to rule them out completely. I cannot see NW saying 'yeah were going to buy the league'. Even with money i feel he would still have bought Pearce, Kenny and probably Austin (if it goes through)- as these are players he admires, not just ones he could afford! Im not saying we're going to be man city, but a Leicester type funding looks promising.
Fingers crossed eh ;)

RyanMOT

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I seriously hope we don't get a Leicester type funding, where did that get them?

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They had fantastic funding. bad management (Sven) cocked it up for them.

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18 Jul 2012 14:47:05
The new south stand sponsor looks a lot more professional that any of the other sponsorships we have had recently. Its quite tasteful, pity they didn't sponsor the shirt and get the sign makers to make the shirts.

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18 Jul 2012 14:35:40
To all those people who think the takeover is a façade:

"To be honest, I wouldn’t be there now if I didn’t think they were totally behind me."

"The new people think along those lines as well. I have been given that type of assurance that they are really keen for me to stay."

(Neil Warnock speaking to talksport)

TeejLUFC

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18 Jul 2012 14:30:46
question...is lloyd sam still a united player?
read a piece about him training hard and wanting to impress leeds this season.i think he could do well this year,if so,he s had some games particulary the start of the season.Then hasnt featured at all.Thats why i thought he was no longer with us.

noose58 {Ed013's Note - No, he is training at Pompey as he is out of contract}

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18 Jul 2012 08:57:51
this might be an insight as to who is taking over i work at an foundry and we have been commisioned to forge some new gates for elland road and the sign on the gates reads BILL,S GATES might be a clue there

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I work for a foundry and have been commisioned to to forge some new gates for your drive and the sign on the gates read BULL**TTER.

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Original poster here you mean YOU actually believe it saddo

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Sadly, there are people on this site who take every post literally and don't understand the concept of humour. Never mind...

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To The Original poster ; GET A LIFE and stop posting crap Gj

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Is everyone so uptight that a sense of humour is forbidden - i think its GJ who needs to get a life among others or do you not know what a joke is - if not look it up in a dictionary

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"or do you not know what a joke is"

Yeah, a joke is something funny that everyone laughs at - unlike this remark which is just plain boring and predictable...

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Guys stop bitching and chill.... or by the way is the banters page!

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18 Jul 2012 08:00:56
Just a thought, i'm not trying to scaremonger here but what do you guys think of our chances if the takeover falls through. Personally I think, as do a lot of people that it is very close to happening, but think of the senario where KB has ballsed it up and were left with him in charge for next season.

To be honest with the squad we have now and not much cash to spend I don't think we'd stand a chance as we'd probably lose a few of the good players and get some medioce ones on loan. With this team now i'd be expecting lower mid table as a good season.

Anyway fingers crossed it happens as I said I'm not one of the pessimist lot who think the takeover is doomed, just thinking what would happen if it didn't.

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The takeover is happening, chill out.

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I think the key thing is NW decided to stay, we have spent cash on signings and most notibly Bates has said absolutly nothing!!! he isnt even moaning about the Police fee's. I know in the past we have had such hard times and any hope of better things have soon been dashed but can we honestly see Bates here next season, based on whats gone on I honestly can't. I maybe wrong but things just seem too odd, look at the announcement of frozen ticket prices, Bates whould of made a meal out of that one, but nothing what-so-ever! I know the suspense is killing us all but it just seems too far down the line to all fall through now, think of the cost and time that inderviduals would have put in nagotiating this! It'll happen fingers crossed! MOT
KarlT

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18 Jul 2012 07:52:55
46 today .... Ouch!! So - birthday wishes in order 1.Takeover completed
2. Loads of cash to spend on players
3. The Jamaican warrior signs
4. Sam Baldock signs
5. The peacock re opens
6. I get pissed tonight

Not much to ask for is it ?!!

Turkish ed

Ps. Can you make my wishes come true Ed .... Please!! {Ed013's Note - Happy Birthday, make the wish as you blow out your candles, but ssshhh don't tell anyone}

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18 Jul 2012 03:18:14
gk Schmeichel free
rb Licha 200k
cb lees free
cb kisnorbo free
lb mcCartney 350k
cm howson free
cm claton free
cm johnson free
lw snodgrass 100k
st backford 50k
rw Gradel 350k

ross free, Luciano 100k, Bannan loan, Kilkenny free, White free
not a bad team for 1.2 mil think if only kan handed over gayson some real money not joke money and tryed to keep des players not call all tham s..t we'd be back were we belong

what do you think ED do you think that team could win the league {Ed013's Note - I don't understand. Are you saying "look what we had" or "what we could have now?" If it is look at what has gone, I agree I think we had a stronger team in league 1!}

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Warnock seems to be working on a tight as budget as Grayson had is bringing much better players already. I wouldn't trust Grayson in a poundshop.

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Ross was £200k

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The difference is grayson got the choice between transfer fee or wages but warnock seems to have got better in both so you cant really say wouldn't trust grayson. huddersfield will be around the top 6 this season and might even be the team that goes straight up

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Thats because he was going in with pennys not pounds i think we let the better manager go. as for warnock dont think u can really say hes bringing in better players green, Cranie,Andy Gray and half the portsmouth team and aload of freebies not the signs i wanna c

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Udders in the top six,ha ha ha ha please dont my sides are splitting. Gray and Crainie are training with us not signed up and everyone else NW has brought in is an improvement on last seasons shower.

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What about the hundreds of other players he signed, and the loan players we had under him.

Grayson's transfer philosophy was something like "If you have enough chances, eventually you'll find the goal..."

11 decent players out of a mountain of them doesnt mean anything. What about injuries. Which of the others that he signed would you replace that starting 11 with?!

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Mccartney was a loan sorry^^^

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Mccartney was a free and Becchio was signed by Gary Mac

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Didnt Blackwell sign Beckford? Think Larry has too much time on his hands, get off this site Larry, shouldnt you be gettin that lot ready for next season!

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