Leeds Banter Archive February 18 2013

18 Feb 2013 21:17:32
e d good reply! who in there right mind wants to manage us with our track record of owners? until we get it resovled we will just tread water and I for one feel a bit sorry for warnock his record speaks for its self becarful what u wish for peeps!

18 Feb 2013 21:10:44
New owners soon and Atkins in as Manager before the end of the season. At long last our Bates nightmare may well be coming to an end. Oh and Ken don't forget to take those GFH boys away with you. I mean they've covered for you enough since the 'purchase'. At least when Pearson buys us we will know who the real owners are. Better days are ahead. MOT

18 Feb 2013 20:04:14
I have to agree that whoever is manager of lufc will find it near impossible to get us up given the resources we seem to have.
I only think warnock should go as he makes too many excuses, plays poor football and has made some awful choices on signings. but I do feel for him a little as the club seems a nightmare. I do think gfh are going to be a waste of time, they talk a good job but have delivered very little. yes they need a chance but have we seen anything at all to suggest they are going to give the investment to give the club a good go. whenever there's a loan window or transfer window they have disappeared. I mean clubs are making signings now but no sign of the winger we were apparently after. the whole club seems a can of worms at the moment and who knows where we will be come summer. the crowds are dwindling, the next generation of supporters with it. its a worrying time that needs sorting sooner rather thn later. when nw does go who will come in? Would Atkins come to a club tat hasn't supported a manager for years. no. we would prob get someone who's been out of work a long while, or a lower div manager. the once massive attraction of joining Leeds is a thing of the past. the only big thing left is the support, not in attending now but in its ability to rival any team once the mighty fire is reunited. I have spent thousands and thousands like many of you. my love of Leeds will never go but for te first time if I can't go it's no longer the end of the world. shrew leeds

18 Feb 2013 19:18:54
Please let Di Canio's resignation have something to do with us Please Please Please

Consider the possibility that Di Canio is a fluke.

fatfreddyscat

18 Feb 2013 18:24:33
Chris Dawson sounds like he is doing really well give him a call up warnock it can't be as bad as michel brown {Ed013's Note - I understand the joke behind Michael Brown, but having watched most games this season he has been one of the better players, plus Dawson is a different type of player to Brown. It is Austin that needs dropping}

Well said Ed. I have said on this page since the day he signed that Austin will never make a championship player. Other posters referred to him as a legend these people need to get real. He is a headless chicken, his positional play is appalling and he can't pass to a team mate. I think the poor guy is colour blind. Regarding GFH they always said that they would not spend much this window. I think they will wait till summer, new manager more money. Don't forget even ken said they are backed by a very wealthy individual. JD.

Austin is a good player who has only came to the championship in the summer and your saying he can't pass a ball no sounder why though he cam from the norway league and he has a fan like u and ed

Sorry e {Ed013's Note - Well sorry e, this is why football is a wonderful thing and the beauty of it is we have different opinions and something to debate. I have to agree with JD, having watched him all season I think he is poor. He had a good few games at the beginning of the season, but even before his injury he started going missing in games. His passing is terrible, his positioning is terrible and his shooting, well lets just say the upper tier in the stands get to see the ball more than the keeper. I will support anyone that plays in the white shirt, but in my opinion Tonge, Green and Norris offer more than Austin and I would even give young Dawson a chance alongside Brown or one of the above}

"I understand the joke behind Michael Brown"

Unfortunately Warnock doesn't understand the joke that IS Michael Brown. Everytime he plays I am just waiting for him to get sent off and reduce the team to 10 players. How funny is that then? {Ed013's Note - So how many times has he been sent off this season? Who has played better than him in his position? We all agree Leeds need someone younger and better, but you can't doubt he has been one of the better players}

18 Feb 2013 17:23:24
Personally, I think Neil Warnock has done a good job with very meagre resources. It must have been a nightmare with not knowing what financial backing he had available to him. Bates and GFH have not committed to him. Imagine trying to interview targets stating we can't pay you much this season but if we get promoted then we will pay you more. Would'nt every club be stating that.

Would you join under these circumstances?

It just shows a lack of commitment from the owners. They don't want to use their own money to buy a decent team. They want to have the infrastructure, the potential of a large (ish?) following for a future sell on value. In fact if you think of it in Business Terms a great value. Buy a share at a low price, Sell for a higher price later (probably not much later!)

BP

But he has wasted what liitle transfer budget he has had on total rubbish and old friends that he doesn't even play. His tactics are appalling. I for one can't wait for him to go. There is a minefield of potential inexpensive talent out there that other teams seem to be able to find but it won't be found in Portsmouth also rans and Sheffield old boys. Good night Neil and have a pasty on me

Sounds a lot like Bates dun it!

"But he has wasted what liitle transfer budget he has had on total rubbish and old friends that he doesn't even play. "

You might think giving his old mates our money for not playing is a waste of the transfer budget (as do I) but as far as his mates are concerned it's money well spent?

18 Feb 2013 15:48:26
It was a good day out we were well beaten by a much better side. A pity the team were not as passionate as the support. We do not have a team good enough to play in the prem. We need to rebuild get committed players in and when we have a good lad not sell him. I don't blame NW for everything he has had a hard time with lies made by Bates and now these new muppetts so if he goes who will come and put up with more lies, we need a good board who will support the manager with the right backing.

Look at the untold wealth behind City, the cost of one of their players could buy us outright, the game has changed, we cannot compete with that, GFH can't supply the fnds, they're in it for a qick profit not the benefit of Leeds United, just hope someone with the money takes over and spports the next manager, our fans deserve nothing less.

18 Feb 2013 15:13:58
Owen Coyle the man to get us promotion next season. Tactically sharp and a great motivator who is well liked. Second choice Nigel Adkins.

Moyes or Pulis for me. either would not only get us up but also keep us up.

We need to start thinking longer term, not just to get to PL - we do not want to be a yo-yo club. {Ed013's Note - 2 Managers in Premier League appointments?}

I agree I think Moyes would do a good job for us.

What planet are you on Moyes off from a prem club to a no hoper club who s heading into league 1

18 Feb 2013 13:58:10
Neil Warnock - I actually feel for the guy.

Why?

Looking at the past year its not been easy for anyone let alone him, firstly being under Ken Bates is a dreadful thing for anyone to have to endure, secondly GFH all for their optimism have not exactly gone out of there way to support him, the majority of the teams doing well have spent large amounts (for this league) if not this season then in previous seasons, since when has Neil been given large amounts of cash to bring in EXACTLY what he wanted, no has beens or make do's? Thirdly, he was never really given a chance, being ex Sheff you was always going to be hard for him, but on the whole his record previous to joining us was second to none with championship clubs being promoted, yet he was always given a hard time by us as Leeds fans. MOT SussexLeeds

18 Feb 2013 13:33:29
GFH are the problem not Warnock (even though he's not the best manager).
GFH bought us with the idea spending very little, getting into the Prem and flipping us for a good profit.
They do not have any money to invest, the odd million here and there will not even keep the football club running with the loans bates took out.
We are 8 points off play offs but 8 points off relegation as well! If we went down would we go into administration again? It could happen, look at pompy!
We need GFH out asap, the Guardian Article says it all Patel even near enough admits they where looking to sell us on ASAP. Haigh is just a kid with a toy, the problem is that toy in Leeds United.
I hate to say it but would we have been better off sticking with bates, we'll least till a real investor came along!
Think its mid-table championship for the next few years!

18 Feb 2013 12:17:55
we might as well prepeee for next season we are not consistent and we sign unknown players (like HABIBOU) and we don, t get proper investment hpe pearson takes over us M. O. T

18 Feb 2013 11:40:20
Its getting boring now - i'm a life long leeds fan and all I hear is the chants wanting someone out, it was "grayson out" - "bates out", now "warnock out" - just because results or signings don't meet fans expectations - now the post are about Adkins or Poyet being wanted, well what if they don't achieve the high expectations, how long will it be before their names are being chanted followed by "out" - its time all true Leeds fans realised we are a club in transition, a mid table championship side ( for now ) and stop living in the past - whatever happend to getting bhind the team we have, i'm sure all the negative chants are doing wonders for team confidence - just a last point I don't like Warnock or his style but I am a Leeds fan and for now he's our manager and part of the team - till that changes I will chant for the whites not against them

Well said.

18 Feb 2013 11:30:07
i said right from the start colin is th wrong man, he is old fashioned and most of his promotions are from the 3rd to 2nd tier - not what we need.
sack him sign dicanio and let the rest sweat as we climb back to the top of english football MOT

So you say that about Warnock then wish 4 a man with no promotions and no xperience higher than league 1.

. Di Canio has a promotion. Just saying. and a cup final while we're at it

18 Feb 2013 11:09:46
Why not promote Neil Redfearn to Head coach? He did a striling job as I remember. All this let's get Nigel Adkins and get promoted nonsense makes me laugh. Big names don't always guarantee you success.

He lost like 90% of his games when looking after the 1st team (when we had snodgrass and becchio) so yes stirling just what we need for the future

18 Feb 2013 10:04:41
Norwich fan here, No offence intended, but how do you feel about Morison? and what do you think about taking Martin off our hands?

No point in taking martin, you d only want to buy him back during the summer
MOT IrishWhite

Wish we had took the money, We were fools excepting this deal.
Gj

Persons slating him he has played less than 180 minutes for us and you already say he is useless? how about you actually let him settle in, he is playing in a side that cannot pass the ball up to the strikers and has only just joined and been a bit part player so far. After yesterday been at the game I had never been more proud to be Leeds because of the fans. Now it's back to reality of what the fans post on here, always something to moan about.

18 Feb 2013 08:41:27
Get warnock out and get o'leary and grayson in as a joint management dream team MOT

Yep 2 men who proved they can't do it, great idea.
here's a novel idea stop harking back get dicanio in and watch the pre-madonna's leave our club and the good times return MOT

O'nearly - No thanks could not do it then and would not do it now - completely lost the dressing room.

We didn't finish outside the top 4 with O'leary so he clearly could do it, person

18 Feb 2013 19:40:18
We DID finish outside top 4 that's how we ended up bankrupt! O'Leary and a chequebook a lethal combination.

We finished fourth but in those days only top three places were champions league places. What I would give for finishing fourth in premier league now.

O'Leary could do it, he was just out of order with his book release and lost the dressing room pretty quickly once the money ran out

18 Feb 2013 07:49:31
Leeds fans are too negative, their glass should be half full not half empty.
Says a man who when he arrived at the football club, 3 points off the playoffs, transfer listed literally the whole squad and wrote the season off.
15 games to go this season, 8 points off playoffs, 8 points off relegation, he is trying to convince us we've had a good season and times have been hard for him.
I don't care how long this takeover took, yes it was frustrating for the fans, we have been longing for a push forward for a long time and the hope of investment was exciting and frustrating. But for Warnock, this cannot be used as an excuse. Warnock has bought a whole new squad, players he rates highly.
I don't want warnock to be sacked for us to get another quick fix manager in.
We need a hungry manager with a footballing brain, attack minded who beleives he can win the next 15 games. let's not forget the loan market is still open. i'd be getting barkley back in for a start, and i'd be shipping a few out on loan too.
For me, the most realistic options for our next manager are Gus Poyet, Nigel Adkins or Karl Robinson.
But i'd like the board to explore options further afield, a successful foreign coach perhaps.

18 Feb 2013 03:56:08
Right Warnock Tatics are sometimes poor, but am I the only one who thinks the reason why we are so poor at the moment is down to GFH & Bates? How can we build a team with no money, and when we sell our best players. Personal opinion is Becchio is 2 levels above morison, of course NW would say he wanted him he could do no other! Don't be fooled Bates still runs the club. GFH OUT and take that b*stard Bates with you!

Warnock chooses the tactics.

18 Feb 2013 01:31:59
My team against Blackpool Wednesday! Kenny in goal peltier right back because byram has played nearly every game this season and think we could do with giving him a rest. tom lees and Jason pearce at centre halfs and stephen warnock left back! On the wings I would use Ryan hall and Diouf! We seriously lack width and I think Ryan hall should be given more chances he was top of the assists charts in league two and scored a few goals can't be that bad. Diouf is quite clever Soo could best his man out wide! In the middle I'd have Norris and tonge! Norris is a bit quicker then brown can get about a bit quicker. tonge good on the ball might actually be able to pass it about a bit better. was doing well early on in the season! Up front mccormack and morison. morison aerial threat with crosses from hall and Diouf! Mccormack to work the channels and stretch Blackpool defence! Give him a yard or to and he will smash it in! Subs. ashdown byram brown Austin green varney habibou. what would your teams be for Blackpool game?

17 Feb 2013 20:34:10
The David Conn article in the guardian really was a good piece of journo. Why? It was the truth that's why. May as well appoint Adkins and use last dozen games to experiment with the youth. Rather do it now than while critical points are available next season. It's the only way. Arise Lord Adkins.